38 Replies to “O, Sweet Saint Of San Andreas”

  1. Chef Lefebvre: “Today it’s foie gras. Tomorrow it’s going to be chicken or beef.”
    Exactly. If you woke up a PETA activist from a deep sleep I’m sure he/she would admit that that’s the plan.

  4. I’m happy to live in a world peppered with people who are nuts.
    It prompts thoughtfulness … sometimes laughter … sometimes rage.
    It’s fun.
    But, these people have no business determining what’s good for everybody else.

  5. Hey tell it to the Asians … they eat dogs and cats.
    When you get them to stop that, then come and talk to me about the over-fed geese.
    Meanwhile enjoy your celery stick.

  6. I agree with marc in calgary. Where’s the outrage over Halal and Kosher meats? I guess it would be particularly out of fashion to condemn the Muslims. They could probably get away with trashing the Jews.
    I enjoy fois gras on rare occasions. It’s a bit rich to eat on a regular basis (a bit expensive too) but certainly a delicacy.
    The bottom line is that no one should be dictating what others eat when the food is not on the endangered species list. California is far from alone on this one but the loony left thrives there so it’s no surprise….

  8. Not sure about you Alex, but where I’m from people are called to stand and pray.
    Is it a Freudian thing to project your own desires to fall on your knees into this discussion?

  9. It is all a madness which can only be brought to an end by swift, violent and bloody purging. The rot is way too deep.

  10. I much prefer the taste of bison meat to foie gras anyway. I find the buffalo jump variety a little more tender than the pierced-by-a-stone-on-the-end-of-a-stick-then-run-till-you-drop variety. Having British/German ancestors, though, I am wondering if I am allowed to eat buffalo in the first place.

  11. I guess that’s the end of Beef Wellington on the menu in California, though I expect that there will be a few shops across the border in Nevada bootlegging foie gras so that San Franciscans can make their own at home.

  12. A comment by John Burton who sponsored the bill: “This is like what they did before Prohibition: Everyone was giving away the booze.”
    Prohibition – that worked out well.

  14. Forced feeding? Add me to the skeptics list. They do come running and do eat much more than is healthy. I suspect the law is based on propaganda which might be based on rare occurrences.

  15. There are two topics that get “Alex” to stop lurking and crawl out of the dark internet closet, god bashing and the defence of homosexuality.
    Heh, heh, heh.

  16. The force feeding is total BS. The geese and ducks happily force feed themselves on any field of grain(especially peas) they can find on the journey south every year. The only good duck or goose, is a fattened duck or goose.
    If the leftards had their way the only people who will be able to kill ducks and geese, would be the owners of wind farms.

  17. I’m a bit confused by this legislation: aren’t the Democrats in California zealously pro-choice? . . . Oh, I forgot, the only choice fully countenanced by the Dems is the choice to kill a (human) baby in the womb at any time during his/her gestation. My mistake.

  18. The neo-fascists back at work.
    Here in Toronto, they’re getting ready to ban shark’s fin as well. Now, I’ve had the soup many times. It’s a “show off” dish hosts provide to show how rich they are, and is usually served at festive occasions, such as weddings, birthdays, etc. To be frank, I find it kind of bland, and would prefer almost anything else, but that doesn’t mean I want to take away anyone’s choice.
    Toronto city council (you know, the city that’s broke?) mandated that the company with the contract for drink vending machines in city parks and arenas stock it with “50% of healthy drinks, such as juice” instead of pop or sports drinks. “We don’t want kids filling up on sugary drinks” sneered one council woman, apparently unaware that a 12-oz bottle of fruit juice, with 42g of sugar, has more than a 12-oz bottle of Coke, with 39. Bottled water, of course, is not an option – that’s been banned completely. The result is that the city’s share of the revenue from vending machines is down by more than half a million dollars, as parents just stock up coolers when they take their kids to their soccer or hockey games. Nose, cut, spite, anyone?
    All school boards have banned peanut butter, instead of training teachers how to administer an Epi-pen. But some school boards around London, Ontario have also banned a peanut-free soy butter because it LOOKS like peanut butter. The manufacturer has gone so far as to provide “peanut free” stickers for parents to put on lunch bags – not good enough for the neo-fascists.
    Mike Bloomberg decided trans fats aren’t good for you, so now no one in NYC can buy a Twinkie. He wanted to ban salt in restaurants as well, but public outcry forced him to back down.
    The neo-fascists are everywhere, and getting bolder. We’ve got to start calling them what they are, and letting them know we’re going to fight them politically. That is, of course, assuming that you aren’t favour of a state-formulated soy based mandatory vegan diet.

  19. KevinB >
    That is one reason why Obama Care is so important to the totalitarian control freaks – You eat what we say based on our opinion that you will cost the collective National Health Care extra public dollars in the future.
    Therefore we now have a legitimate and legal right to force you to live and eat a lifestyle of our choosing based on stealth imposed collectivism.

  20. @KevinB
    My wife told me of this video a couple months ago involving the shark fin trade. Gordon Ramsey does a little bit of investigative journalism.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r65FgUYdBOc
    As a hunter I use every bit of meat that I can of my kills, meaning I do not hunt cougar or bear unless I am prepared to eat the animal. Of course, killing the animal to protect humans and livestock is another matter all together. I also fail as a hunter if do not try to minimize the suffering of my kill.
    I am all for choice, but in the matter of the shark fin trade I think there is an issue of unethical practices, waste and over indulgence. Similar to the acts the natives played at “smashed in buffalo jump” and the mass quantities of over killing they performed once they were introduced to the horse.
    I am going to admit that this video doesn’t prove that the whole shark fin trade is the same, but if the sale produces this kind of waste than I would agree there should be some reason for concern.

  22. “When will California outlaw mashed potatoes?”
    -Vegetable Liberation Army
    (Carnivores need to take their rightful place at the top of the food chain.)

  23. Knacker:
    I’ve seen the videos, too. Couple of points: is this any worse than killing, say, mink or baby seals for their pelts, and discarding the rest of the carcass? If so, how? Second: what do you think happens to those shark carcasses once they’re back in the sea? They get eaten by other marine creatures, including, yes, other sharks. And if the sharks are eating other dead sharks, then maybe they’re not eating tuna or marlin or other fish. I agree that watching people slice off the fins and throw the rest back in the ocean looks disgusting, but I don’t think it’s the waste you and others believe it to be.
    Knight99:
    Don’t know how old you are, but I remember when OHIP was being introduced. One of the arguments against it was “If the government is paying for health care, then the government is going to start telling you what you can do, based on what it’s going to cost them.” This argument was laughed at as “scaremongering”. “What are these people afraid of?” wrote one columnist (approx.) “That the government’s going to tell them what they can eat?” Well, we’ve seen how that’s worked out, haven’t we?

  24. KevinB >
    Exactly. I personally know a guy that has been ordered by a Canadian doctor to alter his lifestyles or be cut off certain care and benefits.
    He has been forced to attend an exercise class, by doctor order. I’m not sure of the overall details or the outcome, he’s stopped going to the classes, not sure if he’s been cut off treatments.

  25. Was it just me or upon reading this story did you picture Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal Lecter saying “A census taker once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti.”?
    I am a bit conflicted on this one. Not because I give a damn if someone wants to eat artificially fattened goose or duck liver but because celebrity chefs like Jamie Oliver seek government control of ingredients and food they disapprove of cooked by people they look down on. Schadenfreude is a dish best served on a thick bed of government regulations.
    http://reason.com/archives/2010/03/25/jamie-olivers-ministry-of-food/singlepage

  26. It is ironic that the PETA spokesperson that sponsored the bill would make reference to Lipitor, a commonly prescribed cholesterol lowering drug. Statins in general have a significant number of serious side effects (http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/statin-side-effects/MY00205) along with a dubious claim that lowering cholesterol will reduce the risk of heart attack and stroke (http://www.coconut-info.com/diet_and_disease.htm).
    All of this has to with a dogmatic belief in the “Lipid Hypothesis”, that dietary saturated fat and cholesterol lead to elevated levels of cholesterol in the blood, and that these elevated levels of cholesterol cause the pathogenic atheromas that block blood vessels. Study after study has discounted this hypothesis. As an organism, human beings evolved over two million years. The diet throughout this period has primarily been based on animal fats and protein with a supplementation of vegetables and fruit in season. There has never been a sub species of the human race that survived let alone thrived as either vegan or vegetarian. We are not built that way. Sometimes I think the reason that there are so many loons on the left has to do with their diet. Eat a steak, chow down some bacon and eggs. Your thought process will be much clearer and less magical.

  27. I think it is great to show the benifit’s of a healthy diet and the consiquences of a terrible diet (a tomebstone) how ever i do not think anyone has any right to tell people what to eat (with humans eating humans as the exception). I actually thought knacker made a point with this video but then i read what kevin b said and i agree with kevin b even if you hunt a deer and only take it’s antlers …by morning and youk now this knacker almost every single part of that carcass will be gone …so it really isn ot going to waste if anything i think it is us ripping our selves off by not keeping the whole animal for our selves , buti cold care less if a guy hunt’s a bull moose just for his antlers or his trophy head and leaves the rest there . He baught the tag ,and paid for the animals esencially so he can do what ever he want’s ….no body would care if i bought a mercedes and left it running with the windows down in the north endo f winnipeg around 2am would they ? They would think i was pretty stupid for doing so but would not care …so why is an animal any different.

  28. @ KevinB
    I am not standing on any high horse here I just don’t like to see waste, and I try to be as conservative as I can in all aspects of the word.
    I enjoy seeing sharks thrown back to sea without fins as much as I enjoy seeing dead deer carcasses without heads left in the bush. And as far as mink and wild baby seals go, I believe there is a huge difference between wild baby harp seals(illegal) and farmed mink.
    Also, the day I stop hunting is the day I also stopped contributing as much as I could to the conservation of wildlife. It is not so much about the killing of the animal, but how many and how often.
    All in all I have no hills to die on in these matters, I would just like to see that the conservation of wildlife is always being regarded as important.
    Am I against shark fin soup? No, but is it being acquired sustainably and ethically? To myself and my household, that is important.

  30. @Scar and @Knacker If you took the time to look at the law, you’d know it’s only targeting force feeding. If fois gras is produced by letting a bird over eat by choice, it would not violate the law.
    By the definition used in the French laws for fois gras, if must be produced by force feeding. If it’s not, it’s not true fois gras.
    Maybe you wouldn’t be so skeptical if you took ten seconds to google before you espoused your knee jerk reactions.

  32. Knacker:
    Why do you think hunting baby seals is illegal? The Canadian government has a quota established, which was 330,000 seals for last year, of which the vast majority are harp seals. Some of the carcasses are processed for some products, but most are discarded (Fisheries and Oceans Canada)
    I don’t hunt myself, but I don’t look down on those who do. The past few Saturday mornings, I’ve been watching the block of hunting/fishing shows on Global, and I appreciate the efforts made to hunt sustainably, such as only targeting older males.
    Again, I appreciate the optics of shark fins are ugly, but there are carrion eaters on land and in the sea; those carcasses don’t just sink to the bottom. And a removal of some percentage of “top of the food chain” predators might help replenish other fish stocks.
    Finally, I respect that you and your family don’t like the way shark fins are harvested, in which case I suggest that you don’t order it, and don’t eat it if it’s offered to you. But surely you’d have to agree that your beliefs should not restrict other’s choices, or do you think that, for example, gun control nut Wendy Cukier’s aversion to hunting should let her stop you?

  33. @KevinB
    My mistake. I am not against the seal hunts, I was under the impression that to kill the baby seals was illegal.
    Like I said I have no hill to die on in these issues, this is a personal choice that we made. I am in no way protesting or having any feelings to protest these issues in the future.
    I guess as we were brought up not to waste food, nor waste any usable part of an animal this is why I have taken this path. Now to be honest, I do discard my deer hides and bird feathers every year.
    To be very clear, as long as the animal populations are monitored closely than I am not worried. The video with the sharks to me showed mass killing without regulation, or maybe regulators looking the other way. I AM NOT AGAINST SHARK FIN SOUP and at the same time I have absolutely no idea what controls are out there.
    Our buffalo populations were almost depleted due to massive out of control killing, and if it weren’t for the commercial raising of buffalo they could have been very well extinct by now.
    I am trying to be as clear as possible here, I and my family made a choice but we aren’t expecting anyone else to make the same. We aren’t pushing an agenda, and I certainly do not lose sleep over dead sharks.

  34. @Knight
    “There are two topics that get ‘Alex’ to stop lurking and crawl out of the dark internet closet, god bashing and the defence of homosexuality.”
    You’re welcome!

  35. These same people who aim to force us to vegetarianism seem to be the same group who want to turn all the grain people need to eat to get enough meat replacement calories to survive into an ‘alternative’ fuel source.

  36. It is ironic that the PETA spokesperson that sponsored the bill would make reference to Lipitor, a commonly prescribed cholesterol lowering drug. Statins in general have a significant number of serious side effects (http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/statin-side-effects/MY00205) along with a dubious claim that lowering cholesterol will reduce the risk of heart attack and stroke (http://www.coconut-info.com/diet_and_disease.htm).
    All of this has to with a dogmatic belief in the “Lipid Hypothesis”, that dietary saturated fat and cholesterol lead to elevated levels of cholesterol in the blood, and that these elevated levels of cholesterol cause the pathogenic atheromas that block blood vessels. Study after study has discounted this hypothesis. As an organism, human beings evolved over two million years. The diet throughout this period has primarily been based on animal fats and protein with a supplementation of vegetables and fruit in season. There has never been a sub species of the human race that survived let alone thrived as either vegan or vegetarian. We are not built that way. Sometimes I think the reason that there are so many loons on the left has to do with their diet. Eat a steak, chow down some bacon and eggs. Your thought process will be much clearer and less magical.

  37. Well, those chicken livers cooked from KFC the Ole Kentucky Fried Chicken way are delicious when fresh. Me and my German Sheperd can eat 2 pints worth, no problem. We split the biscuit, and I get the coleslaw all to myself.
    I did see a couple of rattle snake carcass’s this past weekend some crows were munching on. Now that’s a shame. They took the head, the rattlers and the skin and threw the meat away. A big fat rattle snake with a lil cornmeal, flour and some Louisi-Yana swamp seasoning fried in peanut oil is quite tasty, especially after a few cold Buds.
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