This past weekend, Roy Green had on his show an acquaintance of mine named Amy Alkon:
Do you disagree with Alkon and believe airport security officials have every right to touch you any which way they choose?
If you’ve ever had a similar untoward experience at any airport, please share it.
How did new get those two crazy metastasized URLs past the filter? Evidently a dodgy Muslim chick can get anything through security round here (see what I did there?).
Posted by: so. >
Very good “so.” I agree with you 100%, Muslims should be identified at airports by making everyone who passes through have a bite of BACON.
Those that don’t, including vegan’s (because they mostly loonie Islamic supporters), should be quarantined for at least 6 months until they are processed for entry or deported. Every visit.
Well done!
Ive said this from day one. What the TSA does is abuse. Its unconstitutional, no matter what the Court says.
Since when is feeling up children or old people a force against evil?
This is all show at airports, show & humilate people at every turn.
Do things to adults that in a bar could get you 20 years. Another Obama Idea.
I remember flying through Calgary airport once and was in a fair-sized lineup to go through security. I looked behind me and saw 6 fiercely bearded gentlemen in the full getup…long robes, sandals, turbans etc walking purposefully toward the security entrance. They never broke stride as they waltzed past us and were waved right on through. No scanning, patdowns, questions….nothing.
I, btw, was taken aside for further questioning and had my bags handsearched and my computer inspected.
To all the people saying “if someone on the street or bar did it they would be thrown in jail”… well of course they would, but that is comparing apples and oranges. If you really, honestly can’t see the different between a security search before boarding a plane and a random person on the street, then I don’t know what to say. A random person on the street unexpectedly groping you solely for sexual gratification; and a legal, professionally administered pat down by a person of the same sex for the purposes of discovering illegal materials or weapons before boarding a plane… yup sounds the same to me! /sarc
Again, if this is “sexual assault”, then every police officer is guilty of sexual assault hundreds of times over – they search everyone they arrest (whether they are carrying weapons or illegal material or not – see, that’s the purpose of a search: to discover if they are carrying illegal materials or weapons)
Every single time I’ve been to an NHL game, CFL game, or major concert over the last 15 years or so I’ve been patted down going in to make sure I wasn’t sneaking in any booze or whatever… Is everyone going to a hockey game raped?
Calling a security pat down “rape” sounds like a complaint someone would make to a human rights tribunal… I better call the police! I was raped by arena staff!!
Merclueless,
Except that police officers have to PROVE they had PROBABLE CAUSE to frisk you. They can not grab every tom, dick (no pun intended) and hairy that is in sight indiscriminately.
“Every single time I’ve been to an NHL game, CFL game, or major concert over the last 15 years or so I’ve been patted down going in to make sure I wasn’t sneaking in any booze or whatever… Is everyone going to a hockey game raped?}
Congratulations, you just compared a hockey game inquiry {got any beer? in your pockets) to allowing a government official put their hands down your or your child’s panties.
Distinction is not your forte I sense.
Mercules at September 12, 2011 11:54 AM said:
“Really? A pat down is now considered rape? Or sexual assault? What an absolute slap in the face of any woman who has actually been raped!!”
Pull in your reactionary horns and think. I said it was sexual abuse (AKA molestation) – and the diminished degree of violence does not diminish the level of violation one feels having to passively submit to molestation by being groped in private places under intimidation of legal liability. Pat downs are for crime suspects apprehended and being processed for holding (jail). Groping children, old women and attractive young ladies under the false premise it is for their own safety is NOT legitimate police frisking – it is unjustified molestation.
I did not equate officially sanctioned groping to rape (although there are some women who would feel as violated by this as if it were rape, my mother comes to mind here) and this type of mauling of, and near, the genitals of children is exactly what we tell them child molestation is and to scream for a policeman. How to unravel the confusion when it is someone dressed like a cop doing the groping.
What message are we sending to our kids and daughters that it’s OK to be felt up and be personally violated if the pedo or perv wears a uniform?
If you can justify this unwarranted violation of your personal privacy and that of your children you’ve no moral authority to complain about sexual abuse/ child molestation when it happens outside an airport.
An ineresting note, I came through Minneapolis-St. Paul a few years ago, and wound up having to reclear security. Except that… the security checkpoint was abandoned! All the passengers were looking at each other sheepishly as we walked right past the belts, through the scanner gantry, and kept walking…the equipment was dark and no one was around.
I came back from the boarding lounge a bit later to check, and it was up and running again. I guess the terrorists’ coffee break was over and they had to be ready for them.
Ah Occam,
You have such a nice way of getting your points across I almost feel rude.
The worst part is afterwards.They all say they’ll call but they never do!
Mercules doesn’t get it that in a free country, government agents are not allowed to lay hands on you. No one is.
That’s what “free country” actually means. Freedom as in physical freedom. Which cannot be infringed without EVIDENCE OF A CRIME. So when they arrest you for breaking a window they can frisk you. If you’re standing on a street corner, they can’t. Ever.
And if they do lay hands on you without arrest warrant, probable cause or etc. you are allowed to sue them. Harshly. Also allowed to fight back. Because “inalienable right” means no exceptions, no excuses.
Paying money to fly on an airplane is not evidence of a crime in a free country. But it is here in CanaDUH, and the reason for that is… guys like Mercules who say “don’t be a whiner, just bend over for the nice policeman and we’ll all be on our way.”
Passenger pat downs are assault. “Enhanced” pat downs are sexual assault, or as I said above, criminal molestation. Sexual assault on a minor child is reasonable grounds for a fatal beating in our North American culture. Free country, better watch out.
Or else admit that the country is a police state and we have no rights or culture except what they give us. There really is no middle ground here.
All an airport needs are explosive sniffing dogs and metal detectors. These dogs can detect explosive vapors at 500 parts per BILLION from several feet away.
Dogs are non intrusive and have the added capability of being excellent observers/decoders of human behaviour/intent; including aberrant behaviour- they literally smell fear.
Dogs are used to warn/prevent those who suffer from Narcolepsy, Epilepsy and Diabetes of imminent attacks/episodes/medical emergencies.
Unlike machines, a dog can track a suspicious scent to the source. Bomb-sniffing dogs are not necessarily breeds that present a fearsome posture to travelers, but include beagles, Labrador retrievers, and familiar guard dogs such as the Belgian Malinois.
Correction ‘is’ not ‘are’ in first sentence.
@Lucky Lori
But having bomb-sniffing dogs in airports would offend Muslims! We couldn’t have that. Imagine the lawsuits.
Oh, and the fact that Muslims are statistically the most likely to be carrying bombs onto airplanes is just a coincidence. Nothing to see here, move along.
A few years after enhanced security at airports was implemented, I had occasion to fly to Atlanta and back. On the return flight, I was stopped because an article of clothing was setting off the alarm. I knew it was my underwire bra and told them so. In a summer suit and camisole top, there’s not much room for anything more. A little security gal walked me back to a line about 30 feet from the scanners. In line was about an 80 something, me and later two caucasion businessmen. The 80 year old had a replacement hip AND a government approved letter from his physician that he said security always chose to ignore. He soon after was escorted through a door and returned about 10 minutes later. Me next. The door was the entryway to an actual janitorial storage room that they were using for blended purposes. All the mop buckets and cleaning supplies were pushed to one side. To the other side, I stooped under the closet pole while pulling up my camisole to show the bra. The only revenge I got was noting to the guard that it was clear they were profiling Republicans.
I am less proud but still unashamed about the ruckus I caused at Chicago Midway. Honest-to-dog, the woman in the line adjacent to mine was wearing a sari manufactured from about 15 yards of fabric. Over that she had a pashmina shawl big enough to hide a 12-gauge. When the guard asked me to take off my minuscule suit jacket, I went off as only a 50-something woman can. Since there’s no mistaking me for anything but an upright, tax-paying American, the guards were caught off guard. One of them had the simple decency to wink. Still, off came the jacket and the East Indian broad literally sailed through security.