RCGZ! There’s a $50 donation to your charity of choice coming your way, Rob.
“Snagglepuss” also had the CPC with 167 seats, with RCGZ’s higher count for the NDP as tiebreaker.
Of the 88 SDA readers who posted formal seat breakdown predictions, nearly 75% predicted a CPC majority parliament. What did you know that the pollsters and official pundocracy didn’t?
Well I think it’s quite clear that Harper owes this change in momentum to Obama, for taking out Bin Laden on the eve of our election.
/sarc
The MSM is officially DOA!
Yippee!
Sell off ceeb tv
Dismantle the crtc
SDA replaces MSM!
“What did you know that the pollsters and official pundocracy didn’t”?
I just closely observed Harper in the final two days. He seemed incredibly relaxed and confident. One has to think that the CPC put its overflowing warchest to good use by micro-polling every last riding in the country. Unlike the mainstream “pollsters”, it accordingly knew exactly what the lay of the land was, and understood that it would have a good night.
It did.
I just figured that people had had enough of the posturing and power-seeking.
Mind you, the NDP surge kinda scared me, but I hoped that it would split the left.
What was known was obtained by listening, rather than telling. I find I learn much more that way.
Meeting the public every day, people from all walks of life, it was apparent that the populace was angry about the election being forced, still very hostile to the Librano gang for the years of theft and corruption, but most of all – deeply worried about the uncertainty of the *global* economy – realizing full well that the whirring printing presses south of the border are inviting hyperinflation. The price of a head of cabbage is evidence enough.
I suppose the pollsters’ wallets are bulging and they don’t feel the effects in the economy like average Canadians.
Polling from the Ivory Tower has its risks, apparently.
Polling without listening is not polling. It is something else.
Off topic, I know, but Bell TV has pulled Sun News Network and is displaying the following message, “Sun News was removed from your satellite service on May 3 at the request of the owners of Sun News”.
Huh?
Congratulations on an historic election, hosers!
I can’t vote here yet, but I have been watching with great interest from the Holy Riding of Ancaster-Dundas-Flamborough. The Liberals were your greatest threat and they were absolutely crushed.
The NDP will only further discredit lefty ideals with the pack of skids they pushed onto the ballots.
I think the more polarized the parties are, the clearer the choices will be for Canadians.
Way to go, Ignatieff! Self-inflicted head wounds are the most entertaining!
Anyone who was polling just buried the lede.
Nanos polling on Sunday showed Conservative jumped back up to 38.7%. They just avoided drawing the obvious conclusion as to where the last 48 hr deciders were going.
“What did you know that the pollsters and official pundocracy didn’t?”
We knew that … “If you wish long enough and hard enough, your dreams will come true” – Jiminy Cricket.
Is there any truth to the rumor that Bob fife cried like a baby on live TV last night?
OK, so it is just a personal fantasy, but he did look devastated.
Bet the Parliamentary Press Gallery is a bit worried today.
That must just be Bell Satellite, A Dog Named Kyoto, as the Bell Fibe TV Sun TV is still on air.
Kate, let me finish that headline for you.
“Election 2011: And The Winner Is…
CANADA!!!!!!!!!!!>b>
Ignatief is not nearly as gracious this morning, as he was last night.
A special thank-you to Michael and Gilles for calling this election. Must confess I was against it but am happy to accept the decision of the Canadian people.
Anyone besides me find Mr. Ignatieff’s civics lecture disguised as a concession speech totally out of place?
No wonder he lost not only his seat, but his leadership position.
What struck me reading the predictions by SDA visitors is virtually no one saw the momentum of the NDP surge nor the crushing defeat of the Bloc.
So while many predicted the CP majority, after that the accuracy of second, third and so on is left wanting. I believed the NDP would increase their seats by quite a bit but I too, did not see the amazing decimation of the Bloq.
Honestly, all the talk this past week of PM Layton, and another CPC minority had me boggled. I wasn’t getting that at all from the polls, and was fairly confident the CPC would get the majority. That was my read anyways, and it’s gratifying to see I was right. Although I will admit, I thought the majority would be by a slimmer margin.
I was pleased to see the CPC leading or elected in 138 seats when BC and Alberta were still to report last night. I knew then a majority was on its way, and savored my red wine.
Iggy going back to Harvard – CANADA HE’S NOT IN TO IT FOR YOU!!!!
Congratulations to RCGZ and Snagglepuss and to Kate for providing the forum.
I had 168 for the Conservatives, but did not pick a higher number for the Marxists because who knew in March that Mr. Iffy and ex-commie Duceppe would stumble and Rub and Tug Jack would give Iffy the coup de grass with the attendance jab.
To be honest, I was a little nonplussed with the what appeared to be a snoozer Conservative campaign.
It is now high time for PM Harper to get to work and implement as soon as possible what most of us on SDA and among the faithful supporters have been waiting for.
Just a partial list from me.
1. The end of the long registry.
2. Dual Wheat Board
3. More parliamentary seats for the west.
4. Changes to the senate.
I didn’t provide a seat projection, but I have always been confident that Ontario hasn’t forgotten Rae days. They knew the LPC was in trouble and there was no way in he!! they were voting an NDP government. That’s why GTA went blue and fundamentally why the CPC has a majority this morning.
The other point to note is that, outside Quebec, the orange “tide” was not much more than a trickle. And I’m not so sure that’s going to play well for the NDP going forward… being Quebec’s beotch and all.
Iffy just resigned on CTV, of course his resignation was all about him him him.
Congratulations RCGZ!
a different bob- Don’t forget these predictions were made before March 27th. At that time there wasn’t the slightest indication of the NDP’s strength or the Bloc’s demise. The last couple of weeks, that became a lot more evident.
Not to rain on Snagglepuss and RCGZ’s parade, (Well done) but I think only two prognosticators forecast the Lib/Dip inversion.
Nobody saw the collapse of the Bloc.
As NFL Commentator Chris Berman says: That’s why we play the games on Sunday.”
CPC: 220
LPC: 17
NDP: 23
BQ: 48
Posted by: FREE at March 25, 2011 5:33 PM
Iain did it with :
CPC 180
Bloc 48
NDP 45
Lib 35
One can dream.
Posted by: Iain at March 27, 2011 2:27 AM
Good on you.
I sensed Sunday evening P.M.Harper was in by receiving from the Con. party a telephone call to register for a special event on Tues. afternoon. Welcoming P.M. Harper back to near the Ottawa airport, on his return from Calgary where he watched the election results. Not the usual practise of a losing party and candidate!
Question of the election for me…
Where will the perennial protest vote go next election in Quebec? They are out of parties now.
@ andycanuck @ 10:15
Yes, it’s Bell Satellite that has dropped Sun TV
I have a slightly different suggestion for a first piece of legislation before moving onto the other important items listed by so many SDAers: a clear definition and parameters for the forming of a coalition majority (or minority!) government.
It should include items such as the coalition must have more seats than the largest party (no combined Grit & NDP with fewer seats than the CPC forming the government crap even if there is some deal with other party/ies); and it must run as a coalition (only 1 candidate per riding etc.) in any election brought about by non-confidence voted in the largest party or over the issue of the coalition’s right to form the government; and maybe that any coalition, like the Tories and Lib-Dems in the UK, must include the party with the most seats. The Governor-General isn’t always going to be honest and we need to smother this beast preemptively now forever.
BTW, here’s the Prime Minister’s victory speech:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ChPR00B24Y&feature=youtu.be
Does anybody have the lowdown on Iggy’s pension? Did he get in enough time to collect a pension as an MP? Did he snooker himself by calling this election to soon?
Enquiring minds need to know.
MPs need 6 years to qualify for a pension and Ig only did 5.25 years (Feb, 2006 – May 2011) so, nope, no pension for him.
Layton’s fun in the new house starts asap. Bets that his new causcus implodes within the year? NDP promises made to Bloc voters will not stand the test of time. Do not be surprised if Quebec NDP MPs move over to the Bloc in protest.
I was a ‘campaign representative’ yesterday. The NDP thought they had a shot at Kootenay Columbia and put an effort into winning it. Our CPC candidate polled at 55% which is down a bit. My observation was that the NDP’s level of sophistication with the poll info was not there. Our info was going thru to a central dispatch and then a phone bank to supporters.
PMSH promise to kill campaign funding ($2/vote/year) will seriously hurt campaign funding for those parties who do not have a riding org. It will put some power back into the riding associations which will be great for democracy but deadly for media revenue.
“What did you know that the pollsters and official pundocracy didn’t?”
We knew our nice mainstream media jobs didn’t depend on making the Liberals look good. So we didn’t have to lie and distort everything we saw.
Actually, I’m pleasantly surprised by the Conservative victory. Given the Ford victory in the GTA I was expecting a larger CPC minority, with Iggy, Jack and Gilles trying to do a palace revolution via their Coalition. Instead, Gilles is OUT, Iggy is going back to Hahvahd, and Happy Jack is suddenly Leader of Her Majesty’s Loyal Opposition.
Looks like my fellow Ontarians aren’t happy about $5.50/gallon gas and Iggy’s promise of a new carbon tax. I wonder how long it will be before Happy Jack gets the memo about Global Warming being busted?
I see the Conservatives have a lot of work to do in Quebec, breaking up the French language propaganda monopoly the socialists have. Maybe they will get the message when the welfare gets cut, eh?
once again we are to be governed by a party that took slightly LESS than 40% of the popular vote.
nothing here, move along, move along.
I never thought I would live to see Conservative Brampton West – a stronghold of LPC in the GTA.
Wow!
But turnout was extremely low, that’s true.
hey hippie, when you have more than two parties the winner -never- has over 50%.
Oh sorry, I forgot hippies can’t do math.
Anyway, we feeeel your pain dude.
kathryn said “MPs need 6 years to qualify for a pension and Ig only did 5.25 years (Feb, 2006 – May 2011) so, nope, no pension for him.”
I’m sure that the pension issue was part of the package deal that brought him back to Canada. You think he’d tough it out until he was elegible to collect one. He could actually be dumber than I thought.
Rose @ 10:27, I agree. Iggy’s (way TOO-OO-OO long) speeches this morning and last evening were really all about him being “gracious in defeat”, except, IMO, his insincerity shone through. It’s as if he were reading a teleprompter stacked with “gracious defeat” speeches: the right words were there, but not the feeling. I’ll bet he and Zsuzsanna have already packed their bags and can’t wait to vamoose!
The female host at SUN TV this morning seemed to have been taken in by Iggy: in effect, she said, “If only he had behaved in this exemplary way during the campaign . . .” I was surprised she was taken in by his farewell tour acting job.
Good riddance, Iggy!
“You think he’d tough it out until he was eligible to collect one.”
He doesn’t have a seat to get his last 7 or so months in and I doubt any Grit will resign his seat to let Iggy run in a byeelection to try to get a seat for those months.
According to Borque (where I went just to enjoy the tasty schadenfreude)Count Iggula has officially stepped down as Liberal Party Fearless Leader as of 10AM today.
I bet the Iggula family Volvo is burnin’ rubber down the QEW already, heading for Ft. Erie and the nearest border point. Seeee ya!
“Layton’s fun in the new house starts asap. Bets that his new causcus implodes within the year? NDP promises made to Bloc voters will not stand the test of time. Do not be surprised if Quebec NDP MPs move over to the Bloc in protest. ”
Posted by: ct at May 3, 2011 10:56 AM
Agreed, ct. The former blockheads joining the ranks of the NDP is a marriage of the totally selfish to untested blowhards. They deserve each other. Lets sit back and watch the fun.
First off, hippei5.0, yes the CPC had less than 40%, however, look at Quebec, take them out of the math and what’s leftover. That’s still split among about 63 other parties. So don’t give us that cr@p about 61% didn’t vote for them.
Ken at 10:25. I beg to differ. Yes scrap the LGR but let’s take the wheatboard with it. Less beauracracy, not more. Fewer commons seats overall. Rejig the ridings across the country. Think of the support staff required.
My personal wish, being a pensioner myself, is put the MPs pension more in line with the private sector. I might add that in order to qualify as a federal party, they must run candidates in at least 50% of the ridings. That would eliminate the fringe/radical parties that merely run interference. The BQ as a federal party? I think not.
Thanks for the opportunity to vent and it’s MARVELOUS day to be Canadian!
Good point, andycanuck @ 10:42, about the conditions for a coalition government.
I’d like to see the Conservatives deal with the Bloq situation: e.g., ban any regional, separatist, political party from holding seats in Canada’s federal parliament. The Bloq’s presence in Ottawa completely distorted the political landscape of this country. Such a travesty—the tail, not even connected to the body, except at feeding time, wagging the dog—must not be allowed to happen again.
What are SDAers’ thoughts on this? Do you think the Conservatives will address this issue—and how?
Iggy and Dion each had valuable talents of use to a political party. Putting them in the leadership position
in both instances and expecting a compliant MSM to successfully sell them to the populace like a new
detergent showed a lack of discernment by those at the top rungs of the Liberal Party. Sticking to old
nonsense like having alternating Quebecois/non Quebecois leaders indicated that the entire party
membership were lacking when it came to tough evaluations and picking a real winner who
would be more than acceptable with minimal touch up to the general run of voters.
Not that the other parties have ever been immune when it comes to being starry eyed and blithely picking
some of the most unsuitable candidates on offer to lead them.
I F***ed up big time on my election prediction, gave the Conservatives 145-150 seats.
Thankfully,I was wrong. Figured the NDP would do well, but didn’t see the collapse of the Liberals.
I usually have the same luck predicting the Stanley Cup winner as well.
Our Kelowna-Lake Country MP,Ron Cannan won in a landslide. At the Party last night his campaign manager thanked the volunteers, said there were more than 200 of us.
A lot of the organizing was done by a former stamp licker with the Post Office,and he was roundly applauded for his organizational abilities in Lake Country.
It was my first time working on a political campaign, it won’t be the last, great people to work with in the CPC.
Congratulations my Canadian Comrades. I hope we have similiar results in 2012.
Ohh, Jackie Layton is in for a world of hurt in the next 4 years. Wait until they realize Jack doesn’t have any leverage to pry open the goodie bag (anymore)….hehehehe
Strategic voting works wonders….
“What did you know that the pollsters and official pundocracy didn’t?”
That the Liberal party was vulnerable in and around Toronto and that Iggy wasn’t waking anybody up.
Oh and that the con vote was rock hard, like a floor and that the pollsters had a history of undercountring con votes by about 1.5 to 2 %
Finally, that the desire for stability was being expressed by many, tired of elections and all stuff that pundits love
That youth dont vote in the numbers that non youth wish they would, Obama’s victory was fuelled by middle aged white people not a surge of the youth vote.
MSM and pundits predicted the weather as in it was 80 degrees so it will be 80 degrees tomorrow.
I did not predict the full collapse of the Lib vote nor the rise of the Dippers, outside my area of expertise. But I know the 905 and the 519 REALLY well. You know the areas journalists hate and look down on.
The MSM really needs to think again about there real objectivity. And whether they need to spend more time with friends and family who live outside THEIR BUBBLE.
Off topic but Re Sun News on Bell TV in Manitoba,
Channel 213,
Sun News was removed from your satellite on May 3 at the request of the owners of Sun News.
Perhaps this topic re Sun News could become a thread of its own.
What is going on.
WHY IS NOBODY TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE ndp HAVE 5 FEWER SEATS OUTSIDE QUEBEC THAN BEFORE THE ELECTION! CANADA HAS NOT ONLY REJECTED THE LIBERALS BUT HAS ALSO REJECTED THE ndp!
Well, I didn’t predict the #s but did predict a CPC Majority.
Why? What were the options? Harper is not too warm and fuzzy but then he doesn’t go for massages either.
Iggy and his legion of high-priced stratagists could not stop a train wreck from happening as this was an election no Canadian wanted. Bringing in Martin and Chretien was silly.
His wife is his best advisor and he comes from the West. Good times are here again!
As some have already said,YES jackie chow may be smiling this am…BUT this poodle puppy love with Kebec ain’t going to last.
These are fractious kids who want their sugar fix NOW!!
No can do Jack…No real Power?…Ahhh too bad.
Good luck trying to keep corral and discipline over that motley crew you’ve got for backbenchers.
Quebec’s a high maintainance date if ever there was one and she’s going to demand you waltz every dance with her.
From here it looks good on you buddy.