Rules out Canadian military defense of Israel;
In the French debate on Wednesday, Ignatieff said a Liberal government would only allow Canadian troops to be deployed on missions that had the blessing of the United Nations.
“The Canadian army must never be used outside the country without the authorization of the UN,” Ignatieff told his audience in French.
Now I know why Iggy and Obama are such good friends
“NUTTY PROFESSOR SURRENDERS CONTROL OF TROOPS TO UN”
I’m sorry, but when did the UN become Canada’s boss? Cause I don’t remember voting them in.
Count Michael likes John Kerry, who is as far left as … almost anyone except Obama. His candidacy is a sick joke. PMSH has worked hard to build up Canada as a reliable friend to the US. This does help in trade and other access matters. With Count Michael firmly installed we can expect stringent passport controls to enter the US, severe restrictions on cross-border trade, and a lot of friction with our southern neighbours. Take that together with the big deficits which Count Michael would run and it means a lot of TROUBLE.
Not only have it thought that he was some stranger that had been appointed to the party of thieves and liars, now I find out that the man is actually an enemy of Canada. To make such a statement is enough for me. The UN. Lovely just frigging lovely.
That might be a principled stand in theory just as the United Nations is a principled organization in theory. The problem begins with the fact that the UN is at present a joke and seems to be determined to continue that way. I think that organization is destined to become history and it is too bad too because the original concept was so good.
This is the result of living in universities for forty years.
Brain death.
Can anyone determine what percentage of UN members qualify as democracies???
With the veto powers of some members is the UN even truly democratic???
What percentage of UN members are considered developed/developing/undeveloped??
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It is all so clear to me now; Ignatieff is looking past his loss in the coming election to his next employer – the UN.
With all of his “worldly” connections and man-about-the-world schtick, is that such a far-fetched scenario?
So we wouldn’t be able to deploy troops for humanitarian reasons (earthquake, volcano, genocide) until the UN says so?
Perhaps we could change our head of state from the Queen to the Sec General of the UN so he could endorse all our laws too.
No need to flip. He’s already flopped:
http://stevejanke.com/archives/314746.php
And didn’t Ignatieff say “let the flowers bloom”, a reference to Mao, during the English leadership debate? Now he says we should only use our troops with the permission of he UN, of which Russia and China are a part as a permanent seat on the Security Council.
I couldn’t stand this idiot before, but I am really starting to wonder what his real agenda is.
“Well, the UN screwed up in Rwanda, it screwed up in Bosnia, it screws up most of the time”. The United Nations is a messy, wasteful, log-rolling organization.”
Michael Ignatieff
Macleans, June 2003
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And yet this d*** head wants to submit our soverign rights in regards to our military use to the UN?
This should be an easy ad buy for the Tories.
iggy has confirmed that liberals have no concept of national sovereignty and hold the absurd dogma of being ‘citizens of the world’. Its sickening that liberals take their marching orders from the un, which is a cabal of foreign communist dictatorships and other undesirable regimes. Canada and the rest of the free world should reestablish our national sovereignty and leave the un. Furthermore, we should avoid sending our military to ‘peacekeeping’ missions on the other side of the world. Those useless blue helmets are not bulletproof, and our military is for the defence of Canada, not for intervening in tribal cival wars 10,000 miles away.
It allllllllll starts to make sense now, he has daddy issues –
The senior Ignatieff ended his diplomatic career as ambassador to the United Nations. In fact, so deep was his father’s commitment to the UN that Ignatieff suspects he would never have supported the U.S. invasion of Iraq without the world body’s approval. The idea that he has broken away from his father’s convictions seems to weigh heavier on Ignatieff than the disapproval of many of his liberal contemporaries and a wide swath of his reading public. “If you ask me why it was tough supporting this war,” he reflects, “part of it was that I heard father calling.”
http://www2.macleans.ca/2003/06/23/smart-guy-eh/1/
EPIC FAIL. The defense of Israel is one thing, but he is essentially abdicating our sovereignty….shame.
Iggiot!
Michael Harkov: great job!
Neo-liberal “sovereignty” at its finest.
«L’armée canadienne ne doit jamais servir à l’extérieur du pays sans l’autorisation de l’ONU…»
I’m prepared to accept that Ignatieff actually didn’t mean what he thought he meant he didn’t mean to say when he said it – or, er, something like that. That’s because, as a general rule, Canadian politicans are remarkably clueless and inept about defence matters (if your other job is as a metrosexual university academic, a lawyer or a shoe salesman, soldiers are all just vague “army men”).
But it’s not reassuring on so many levels.
Let’s be blunt here: being the leader of a sovereign state ipso facto means reserving the right to employ your country’s armed forces to defend its national interests as you see fit, with or without the approbation of any “international authority”.
One more time: in the final instance, the ultimate authority for the employment of the Canadian Forces overseas is – Canada. No conditions can be placed on this statement without infringing on our national sovereignty.
Anyone who would accept such an infringement can be many things: a Harvard professor, a lawyer, a shoe salesman.
But they cannot be the leader of Canada.
I’d say that BO has been more consistant in his views and policy than StIffy by a long shot. And that’s saying a bunch.
This is how the Prime Minister, the leader of our nation, watches a hockey game –
http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/08/06/family-album/090728_top_family02/
– Having a great time watching the game with his son
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By contrast, here is how the Leader of the Official Opposition watches a hockey game –
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L6NW1UySEKs/TCOO6_NXFPI/AAAAAAAABtI/xBw1kkve_Ss/s1600/Ignatieff_birthd_641804artw.jpg
– Sitting up forward and ram-rod straight with a fake, disengenuous smile, tie on, everyone sipping red wine.
Who do YOU think most people would ientify with? 😀
Great, now our foreign policy is to be determined by the dictator’s club!
Voting in this election is a bit like going to a meeting — it’s not a question of what they’ll do if you’re there, it’s a question of what they’ll do if you’re not there. Likewise voting for the Conservatives — it’s not the splendid job they’ll do if they’re in, it’s the g_dawful things that will go on if they’re not in.
During the competition for the UN security concil seat, it was reported that Iggy said Canada “didn’t deserve” said seat. Now the carpetbagger has the nerve to say it was Harper’s fault that Canada wasn’t awarded the seat!
Sorry Ig, can’t have it both ways. BTW, I trust the military brass and the Defense Minister to advise Parliament when we should go to war and with whom. Not the league of Jew hating dictators that make up the corrupt UN.
Michael Ignatieff. World citizen. Man without borders. Champion of voter fraud. Tucks his shirt into his underpants.
So he wants to contract the most important function of Canadian Government out to an International body? One of the only justifications for government is the defence of a nation. How could Canada defend itself or its interest if it needed UN approval to take any action.
This and the desire for the Liberals to subscribe to the Copenhagen accord shows that they cannot be trusted as a Canadian government. They want to abdicate to a World Government.
“the desire for the Liberals to subscribe to the Copenhagen accord shows that they cannot be trusted as a Canadian government. They want to abdicate to a World Government.”
And with Iggy STATING that no Canadian aircraft could fly without the “approval of the UN” puts the nail in THAT coffin!
Please, please, please, please, Canada, don’t put the Liberals back in power.
On the bright side we won’t have to worry about a PM Iggy using the Canadian Forces to help the Russians take over the Crimea from Ukraine.
Michael Harkov at 1:47 PM, I think you’re on to something. I’d even be willing to postpone the demise of that organization until a few days/weeks after he takes up his new post, just to stick it to him.
Too busy for the comments.
Just to say that my wife and I attended the inestimable Caroline Glick’s talk last Sunday at the Vancouve Jewish Centre.
In reply to a comment/question on Canadian support for Israel she said, nay shouted, “We l-o-o-o-o-o-v-v-v-v-v-e Stephen Harper” [dashes in the original!].
I tell ya, I don’t do proud easily, but I had a lump in my throat hearing that.
Furthermore, the host/rabbi mentioned that all the federal candidates were invited. Only the Conservative candidate Deborah Meredith attended and she took a proud bow to raucous cheers!
Amazingly for lefty-lotus-land, there was nary a lefty question from the lively audience.
So, when Iggy launches the NEP II,
Alberta can secede from Canada,
without worrying about a military intervention ?
Unless the UN approves it ?
“So, when Iggy launches the NEP II,
Alberta can secede from Canada,
without worrying about a military intervention ?”
Don’t worry. I’m sure the R2P principle will be invoked and we’ll have a no-fly zone established and enforced by a willing coalition.
If we’re unfortunate enough for Iggy to seize power, might I suggest he enact Gun Registry II (total confiscation) longe before any thougts of an NEP II.
Another Iggy sign generated:
This is the last time I’ll need your vote.
Once it’s UN done, it can’t be undone.
It’s simply stunning that Ignatieff projects himself as an academic schooled in International affairs yet demonstrates such ignorance about the mandate of the U.N. and its limits of power. The U.N. is NOT a world governing body and was never meant to be from its inception. Citizens from none of the countries of the world have elected the U.N. to replace their National governments.
The most fundamental principle upon which the U.N. was founded was the immutable recognition of the SOVEREIGNTY OF NATIONS — membership in the U.N. is voluntary, as is recognition of its various Conventions.
The reason National sovereignty is fundamental to the U.N. Charter is in order to have the authority to obstruct anyone from repeating the tyranny of Hitler and the Nazis when they indiscriminately attacked and invaded Sovereign Nations to implant their dictatorship.
But as usual the Lib/Left through mental midgets like Ignatieff is attempting to invert the mandate of the U.N. by accrueing to it unelected Global governing authority in its own right, and hence inverting the very National sovereignty it was founded on to protect.
Throw away your Harvard degree Iggy — you seriously err, sir.
Reposting from yesterdays reader’s tips:
“The United Nations is a messy, wasteful, log-rolling organization.” “It screws up most of the time” Mr Iggy has been quoted as saying.
But then “The Canadian army must never be used outside the country without the authorization of the UN,” Ignatieff told his debate partners.
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/CanadaVotes/News/2011/04/14/17991361.html
Now if that doesn’t blare out juxtaposition…
Reposting from yesterdays reader’s tips:
“The United Nations is a messy, wasteful, log-rolling organization.” “It screws up most of the time” Mr Iggy has been quoted as saying.
But then “The Canadian army must never be used outside the country without the authorization of the UN,” Ignatieff told his debate partners.
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/CanadaVotes/News/2011/04/14/17991361.html
Now if that doesn’t blare out juxtaposition…
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Hurry up election and put Iggy out his misery. Its almost painful to watch this ninny campaign.
Is it true that Ignatieff is an aetheist?
A bit off topic, but remember that Italian peace activist being held by Palestinian terrorists yesterday? Well “The Propagandist” reports that he was executed — strangled to death by “the religion of peace”. (http://propagandistmag.com/2011/04/15/what-jihadists-do-italian-pacifists).
Canada should never militarily intervene in the Middle East without the UN’s permission, Iggy? Even if it means saving the lives of your fellow delusional Lefties?
Ok, this is getting really personal…that’s my family they’re firing at!
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4057367,00.html
Please read Canada First Defence Strategy – you will find no mention of Israel in there. Canada will fight two kinds of wars, wars of necessity (WWII) and wars of discretion (Afghanistan – Korea etc) and it is hard to believe that in the cold calculus of national interest, that Israel will figure promiently.
I wonder what he’d do if the UN told him to “jump off a bridge”?
Gotta disagree with you there junior. Israel’s fate is a concern for all of us in the first world. Your short sightedness doesn’t change that.
The second conclusion from his statement is that he would remove canada from NATO and the obligations we have committed to in that treaty.
I’m really looking forward to a big report on the CBC on this.
So now we find out that one of Count Iggy’s idols was Maurice Strong, that Canadian/Communist promoter of one world government (the UN).
In reading this I am reminded of one of my favorite sayings, “a country incapable or unwilling to defend itself doesn’t deserve to be a country.” There appears to be no difference between Iggy & Ducette, neither one of them have any loyalty to Canada and both should be tarred & feathered and sent packing.
His statement is one that the Cons need to spread far and wide across the country. For a guy who claims that Harper has let down our veterans this is a slap in the face to very man or woman who has served in Canada’s military.
Even the American Presidential loser, whom the count said he was going to vote for(Kerry), and then he said he didn’t, didn’t go that far.
Kerry announced during his 2004 debates with Bush that he would tie American military involvement to a vague ‘international test’.
Thanks, Iggy, for filling out what that mumbo-jumbo means.
Frightening picture. But that’s a splitting maul, not an ax.