50 Replies to “We Don’t Need No Stinking Giant Fans”

  2. How many birds per ton? or tonne?
    1606 is a huge number, it’s just like, a ton of numbers. She sounds quite inspired.
    Here’s a news report, from one of the lefts favorites… Associated Press / MSNBC.
    “Glass is ubiquitous and it’s indiscriminate, killing the fit and the unfit,” said Klem, a Muhlenberg College ornithologist who estimates that collisions with glass kill up to 1 billion birds a year in the United States alone.”
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4134773/ns/us_news-environment/
    So clearly, fines are in order for these killers. I’m sure that the Alberta judges levying fines for birds landing in oil tailing pools are all on the cutting edge of these window-killers as well. They’re a sharp bunch.
    Judges know everything.
    Sharp readers will note that I’ve used a quote from an ornithologist, not a judge, nor a lawyer posing as an expert, nor a sociologist telling me how horrible life will be for our society without birds.

  3. I wonder if environmentalists calculate how many people are beaten, tortured and killed in Sudan, Russia and Saudi Arabia, oil-producing states they neglect to criticise.
    Oh! What was I thinking?! Soft vs. hard targets.
    My mistake.

  4. The Altamont wind farm in California kills about 9000 birds every year, including about a hundred golden eagles.
    One wind farm.
    Hands up, anyone read about this in the paper?

  6. Good idea WalterF!
    You see, if birds are killed by wind farms they are martyrs for the AGW agenda, but if they die in tailings pond they are victims of evil oil.

  8. Thanks for the info. on this folks. Seeing that beautiful bird buy it sucks and when you add the numbers up, it gets really ugly…and then there’s the bees. Has there ever been ANY study on the killing power of these things on bees?

  9. Yup, this sounds about right. Its what happens when you let “experts”(Elitists like the fruit-fly guy) run our lives. More Chaos ensues always.
    From teen pregnancy to environmentalism, its always ends up in some innocent man or beast paying Twice the price for a little corner of hell.
    When the left with its Stupidities show up.
    That video explains in graphic ways just how asinine we have let these people become. By even entertaining tier fantasies let alone sunshine them.
    JMO

  10. Good catch Kate.
    That oil sands bird death count was the most overblown bunch of bunk I have seen in a long time.
    Take a look at this Sask Watershed map which indicates the massive area that will be covered in potholes that are prime areas for waterfowl reproduction.
    http://www.cbc.ca/canada/saskatchewan/story/2011/02/10/sk-runoff-1102.html
    Now guess how many more water fowl (10-12 eggs per duck) are going to be born over the next few yrs in just Sask.
    I’m pretty sure it will be a tad more than 1600.

  12. That’s called smart advertising? It’s such an amateurish, sophomoric piece of garbage, who’d be swayed, except for dyed-in-the-wool Greenies?
    The Bimbo doesn’t cite the source of “the article” which alleges that all of these birds are being killed in the oil sands.
    As Ezra points out, there are far more birds/ducks killed for Chinese New Years and Christmas celebrations.
    Mass hysteria. Trust the gullible “Smart” Greenies to be leading the pack — or is it the chevron?

  13. It’s time the wild life people get on the band wagon and start counting the carnage around the freaking windmill “farms”.

  17. This is like comparing apples and oranges. The windmill deaths are quick and very humane – birds usually die in 3 seconds. The tailing pond is slow and cruel, typically the birds remain alive for an average of 12 hours after being coated with oil.
    If you accept the video’s own statistics (Oil Sands = 2.5 bird deaths per peta joule…versus…Wind Turbines = 1114 bird deaths per peta joule) and then factor in the bird “suffering seconds” per death you come out with a different picture. The cost of oil energy is 108,000 “suffering seconds” per peta joule (2.5 x 12 hours x 60 minutes x 60 seconds). Compare this to the cost of wind turbines at only 3,342 “suffering seconds” per peta joule (1114 x 3 seconds). Clearly, wind turbines are preferable.

  19. The windmill deaths are quick and very humane – birds usually die in 3 seconds.
    Yeah, sure, scientists and Charlie Sheen concur.
    Where did you get that “3 seconds” statistic and how do you think wild birds usually die, going quietly in their sleep while lounging in retirement homes?

  20. @Daryl: Clearly the solution is for the oil companies to hire someone to shoot any birds they see on the dig site. Problem solved!

  21. About a decade ago, I was looking into wind farms (for an art project) and I came across the phrase “cuisinart for birds” in reference to the windmills. Now we see that they kill bats, bees–both very important in the eco net that we live in.
    Nothing comes without a price. The notion that wind farms or solar energy are “free” in terms of environmental impact is a bunch of hoo-ey. The manufacturing costs, material, maintenance, the transmission grid–all come at a price.
    How many whooping cranes have been despatched by powerlines, or songbirds killed by the skyscrapers in Toronto. I’m not saying this excuses other hazards and messes. I think these are all considerations when we plan our structures and design means of providing for our energy needs. Kind of makes a big fat nuclear plant seem a lot more attractive. At least a nuclear plant can actually deliver the power.

  22. “The birds die in three seconds”
    Really? So every one of those hits by the turbine was a direct hit through the body, killing it instantly, rather than taking a piece of wing (wingspans are invariably much wider than the body of any bird),
    and having that bird crawl around for days?
    Must be more of those “progressive” facts.

  23. I love “progressive facts”.
    This one’s gotta be tops:
    Pay more taxes or else we’ll die in a firey inferno of global warming…now manifested in entire continents going into deep freezes.

  24. This will never make news as long as the Federal Government say that Global Warming/Climate Chanes is not a lie – they still talk about “carbon footprint” as if it is a fact in Globea Warming. The frderal government fears the enviroMENTALists and dare not conflict their stance on Oil Sands. Remember we are responsable for an estimated 2% of carbon output in the world – carbon is not a dangerous gas – pollution is a different story, and should be exposed.
    The enviroMENTALists run the government in this area – and they do not want Canadians to know more birds are killed by their precious method of electrical production. [I heard about bats being killed in southern Alberta once – yet this never hit the msm. I hope Fox picks up on stories like this.]
    There should be a law to report the number of deaths related to wind power – perhaps the NDP can propose a bill about this …. the Cons will not, SAD.

  25. Daryl did you watch the clip? Did you see the condor try to get up? Did it die in three seconds? No. It is lying there maimed waiting for a predator to come eat it alive.

  27. I’m with batb. That was a cheesy vid.
    However, that is the first time I have seen a vid of a bird getting whacked. Point made.

  28. Cheesy vid for sure but it was just some amateur videographers trying to make a point. If it was a slick fluffy ad costing $$$ then it would be summarily dismissed by the eco-greenies without even having to see it.

  29. If it also worked on the “bird brained” we should lobby to have them installed in every lefty home in the nation.

  31. The oil sands may be messy, but they can be and are cleaned-up. People tend to focus on the mess during production and not the final outcome. It’s like saying home renovations should stop since the house is a mess during the reno.
    And, the hidden theme is, “So we have enough energy for our lives but the rest of the world can’t? No exports to others – not oil or uranium?” Societies’ grow and prosper from energy. As an example, 1 combine allows thousands of people to focus on education rather than toiling in the fields just to survive.
    Is there a good/solid source for bird deaths from wind farms? Say from an independent 3rd party (if there is such a thing)?
    Eric

  32. Is there a good/solid source for bird deaths from wind farms? Say from an independent 3rd party (if there is such a thing)?
    This is the problem.
    Just one of the benefits the Left get from politicizing absolutely everything is that it’s hard to find a neutral party when there aren’t any.

  33. Like I posted on Ezras blog: comparing OilSands to windtowers is like apples to hoodies. Kinda makes one wonder what type of “fuel” was consumed to energize this video.
    pfffft ‘ere.!

  35. Eric Anderson has a good question and I hope someone can steer him in the right direction. As at this time it appears the federal government is listening mainly to to Al Gore’s koolaid drinkers.

  36. I really liked Walter F’s idea. You can ring the tailings ponds with windmills thus ensuring the ducks are quickly dispatched before they hit the ponds.
    We know that wind farm operators will never be fined for duck death so its a win win.

  37. re. Eric Anderson’s good question: Just who would be a neutral observer of the actual bird deaths caused by the wind turbines?
    Would it be the people who own and operate the turbines and the money that these turbines represent to them or would it be the wild animal welfare interests who are environmentalists to a man or would it be some government official from the same governments who are subsidizing these turbines with our taxes who have a political interest in not looking bad?
    Their are no parties who have access to the land these turbines are built on to count these bird deaths who are not on the side of environmentalism for one reason or another.
    Hope that helps your thinking in the right direction as to why you aren’t going to find a neutral party to give an accurate figure on bird death by turbine.

  38. Is there any question why fox and coyote populations are doing VERY well in areas with wind turbines? Which then creates another problem, we are feeding them, making them dependent on the turbine for food. That’s as big of a mistake as relying on it for electricity.

  39. One has to wonder at the logic of having most of the wind turbines built along the main migratory bird routes coming into Southern Ontario?
    You just don’t see some of these rare and beautiful songbirds everyday and I don’t really think Liberals and the greenies even care to think about it, hell they never even cared to do studies on the effects on human beings health until after they built hundreds of windmills.
    Daryl….. I hope you live in Ontario.Then at least you can share in what the idiots the run the show and the ones that voted them in have sown.

  40. One has to wonder at the logic of having most of the wind turbines built along the main migratory bird routes coming into Southern Ontario?
    Here is the logic: Wind provides lift, which is why airport takeoff runways are built to direct aircraft into the wind and along wind corridors.
    Therefore migratory birds have chosen migration routes corresponding to these corridors and the corridors are ideal for wind farms too.
    Where it all breaks down is the fact that birds and turbines are incompatable, whether the turbine is on a pole or the wing of an aircraft.

  42. The City of Toronto estimates that over 1 million birds die annually by flying into buildings. This means that the Toronto Star building likely causes more fatalities than the oil sands development.
    Also, Margaret Attwood’s cat is a real killer – In the U.S. Domestic and Feral Cats are guilty of offing 500 million birds per year or more.

  44. Read somewhere that most birds are affected by certain frequencies and installing freq-gens would alleviate the problem.
    Still, Mcfanfvkk can eat it.

  45. Political junkie, that was an interesting article.
    “At the very least, turbines should be shut down at certain times of year to reduce bird kills, he added.”
    Too funny.
    As if this particular form of energy production isn’t cost ineffective or undependable enough already.

  46. Ken Kulak nails it:
    You see, if birds are killed by wind farms they are martyrs for the AGW agenda, but if they die in tailings pond they are victims of evil oil.
    The true goal of the greens is the imposition of an ( authoritarian ) socialist utopia, with the radicals dictating what is right, what is wrong; what is proscribed, what is required of the people.
    The birds flying into the windmills are martyrs for the green’s true, crackbrained cause: a ” just ” society; meaning, one run by them.

  47. Consider this…
    Waterfowl, like ducks and geese, have anywhere from 4 to a dozen eggs in a clutch; raptors, like hawks, falcons and eagles generally have 2 to 4 eggs in a clutch. Mortality rates for raptors actually increase exponentially when you project into the future given how many adult, breeding birds die. What happens to the young the adults are feeding? Tailings pond death generally happen in the fall during migration, minimising deaths to a particular time frame. Windmill grind year ’round.
    How badly will the ecosystem suffer a massive decline in breeding raptor pairs? I seem to remember predatory elimination being a very bad thing for the environment. Look what happened in yelowstone when they removed top predators.

  48. “This is like comparing apples and oranges. The windmill deaths are quick and very humane – birds usually die in 3 seconds. The tailing pond is slow and cruel…”
    Kinda like the quick and humane abortion vs. the slow and cruel human lifespan

  49. Apparently, SDA does get results:
    Ontario is not proceeding with proposed offshore wind projects while further scientific research is conducted.
    No Renewable Energy Approvals for offshore have been issued and no offshore projects will proceed at this time.
    Applications for offshore wind projects in the Feed-In-Tariff program will no longer be accepted and current applications will be suspended.
    http://news.ontario.ca/ene/en/2011/02/ontario-rules-out-offshore-wind-projects.html

  50. Got to love that 3 seconds…so definitive. Bets on the author of that stat being a global warming bed wetter.

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