65 Replies to “Welcome Back, Khadr”

  1. cjunk – Ford did NOT prove that ‘Canada is not leftwing’. Ford proved that Torontonians were fed up with city hall waste and tax increases. Period.
    You cannot assume that those who voted for Ford were also conservatives federally or provincially.
    No, I disagree with your claim that a minority government’s task is to get a majority. I’m claiming that the Canadian infrastructure, with the existence of a party, the Bloc, confined to one province – which province by law holds 1/4 of the house seats despite having a population less than 25% – prevents a conservative majority.
    The Bloc is the default party of Quebec. It is not voted for because of its policies (separation, heh) but because it is ‘distinct to Quebec’. It IS Quebec. That makes it almost impossible for a federal party to get a majority.
    Then, we have multiculturalism, the baby of the Liberals, which set up this policy to bond ethnic groups to them. That is why Liberals control the cities, which have the most seats – and the most immigrants. Harper has been working on these groups, trying to wean them from the Liberals, since he came to office. It’s slowly having results.
    So, you insistence that Harper MUST get a majority ignores the ‘how’ – when our legislative infrastructure makes this extremely difficult if not impossible.
    And ‘any conservative’ – I’m hardly delusional over basic facts. I acknowledge facts; you are the one who totally and completely ignores facts. Try again.

  2. ‘any conservative’. I repeat, the CHRC is not under Harper’s authority; he cannot make their in-house decisions. Their budget is indeed a federal mandate, and does not increase other than the legally bound increases in unionized staff pay increases.
    I invite you to read this article by Joseph Brean of the National Post, March 26 of this year. Title is ‘Critics cry foul over closure of rights commissions offices’.
    It includes such gems as:
    “Take, for example, John Gordon, national president of the Public Service Alliance of Canada, who on Thursday harshly condemned the “Harper government’s decision” to close Canadian Human Rights Commission offices in Toronto, Vancouver and Halifax.
    In a press release that scooped the CHRC on their own announcement, Mr. Gordon vowed to fight back against this “outrageous” attack on democracy, which will “punish marginalized people” and “severely hamper” the CHRC’s ability to deal with complaints. He said it was part of “a strategy by the Conservative government to destabilize human rights organizations and women’s groups in Canada.”
    That gives you an idea of the progressive support for these officious centres; and how difficult it is to change things.
    I doubt if these facts will affect your opinions.

  3. Emailed my MP Brian Jean:
    Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 12:03 PM
    To: Jean, Brian – Riding 1
    Subject: Re: Khadr
    Mr Khadr must not be allowed back in Canada.
    He’s an “unlawfull combatant”, and should have been shot, or hanged.
    Paul
    His response.
    (See if you can figure what our governments position is, I can’t):
    Thank you for recent correspondence with regards to Omar Khadr.
    It is my understanding that this matter remains between Omar Khadr and the US government.
    The Government of Canada was not part of the plea negotiations. In fact, the chief prosecutor of the tribunal, Navy Captain John Murphy when asked about whether Canada was part of this deal, Capt. Murphy said- the agreement was between the US government and the defence.
    The American government agreed for Omar Khadr to return to Canada. We will implement the agreement between Omar Khadr and the US government.
    Once again, thank you for taking the time to express your concerns.
    Sincerely,
    Brian Jean MP
    Fort McMurray – Athabasca
    Parlimentary Secretary to the Minister of Transport, Infrastructure and Communites.
    I then responded:
    If as you state “The Government of Canada was not part of the plea negotiations.”,then The Government of Canada can take it’s sweet time checking his credentials, say …8 years, before allowing this scum in.
    We let any dog in it seems.
    A lot of Canadians feel the same way.
    Paul

  4. If the discussion is about whether one can still support the CPC, then I would add this.
    At some point, in Canada, the conservative political label has to be defended. We can understand how pragmatic considerations require tactical concessions to what we all know is a left-dominated political culture. We are entitled to ask the leaders of a nominally conservative party, at what point do these concessions amount to surrender?
    If we look at progress on climate change, free speech, and now this Khadr cave-in, we have to say that principle has been shoved aside in favour of expediency. We may be getting some conservatism, but not true conservatism.
    For some, that may be good enough. For others, it is troubling, because we see an opportunity to take a stronger conservative position being squandered, with no apparent results (the polls remain static).
    I think we need to make a “sea change” in policy direction and take a stronger stand. Harper is clearly an effective political leader given the context, but we will never know unless we try, how much better the conservative position would be in Canada if the government party decided to seek a true conservative mandate, and do what we all know is required on these issues, instead of trying to govern by weakening the liberal poison.
    The problem with the approach we are taking is that the issues remain obscure and clouded for many people (not for regular visitors to conservative internet sites, but for the majority out there who don’t have an independent perspective on the news of the day). We need these debates to become more frank and less obscured by political correctness.
    And yes, we don’t really want to see Khadr out of prison in a few years. Neither do we want to be paying carbon taxes, gazing at acres of useless wind farms, and hearing endless warnings about the impending catastrophe of global warming while a so-called conservative government plays along and looks for consensus. There is no consensus between right and wrong. You have to choose one or the other.

  5. ET: “Ford proved that Torontonians were fed up with city hall waste and tax increases” … that would make them fiscally conservative ET.
    ET, for most of Canada’s history the almost exclusive goal of minority governments was to become a majority so that they could enact their adgenda. What? Are you suggesting that the CPC isn’t trying to move the polls enough to get into majority territory?
    Failing to get a majority over any extened period of time means a European style mish-mash; which gives the crown to the bureaucrats.
    I contend that Canadians are fiscally conservative in large enough numbers to give the crown to the CPC … but, they need to trust the leadership. And they don’t, and never will … trust Harper …hell, just about every CPC friend I have doesn’t, so why should people who haven’t voted CPC before. He has made himself indistiguishable from all the other hacks … therefore, he must go.
    The party needs renewal which will give it momentum going into the next election … failing that, we are doomed and you can go on moaning about minority realities forever. You make the bed you lie in.
    I’m for winning; not playing endless games of progressive chess in the hope of squeaking out a point in the polls.
    Harper can’t move the dial; so he must go. Harper is incapable of talking directly to Canadians and treating them like intelligent adults … so he’s all about smoke screens, hidden agendas, and locking out the base. He’s a lifetime political player … and it really shows.
    I’m not supporting a side-winder; especially one that behaves like slippery soap in the tub. Harper is anything but straight up, straight shooting, straight talking. Anyone who keeps his base guessing all the time, and forces them to make lame excuses is dangerous.
    My bet … Harper will resign just in time for a leadership race going into the next election. I just hope he and his hacks don’t crown a leader and rig the race … but then, that’d be just his style.

  7. Harper can’t win for losing, if he meddles in foreign affairs the liberal snivel service will leak anonymous smears to the media if he deals harshly with those under his control someone leaks smears against him. Face it the snivel service has become the Army for Liberals, the best we can hope for is Harper isn’t in power and the libs use Khadr’s homecoming as the second coming of christ gawd knows Liberal media has been bawling and bleating about poe Omar for weeks. I’m taking my anger out at the Media, for they are the ones that beat on us day and night demanding Harper repatriate him when Harper’s not being taken to court to force him to repatriate the dirt bag.

  9. And how long has this little shit lived in Canada? Can he even speak English? Why does his mother, who hates infidels, still live here?
    Does he still want to kill infidels?
    He and his shit scum familly should be sent to Pakistan, where they cumifran.

  10. Thing is, the federal bureaucracy is Liberal, a Liberal establishment creation. They do things because “They know best” and because it screws the evil conservatives.
    WE NEED A MAJORITY FOLKS!!!

  11. This is not Lieberals or bureaucratic Mandarins. The deal was in the news for a long time before Kahdr was convicted and sentenced. The Conservatives had a long time to set the record straight with the Americans if they weren’t party to it.
    I’m getting really p’d at the CPC. They have taken to being very cute with their language and misleading their base. The only thing that will keep me supporting them is just how bad the other choices are.
    I long for a “tea party” alternative.

  12. Cjunk: Harper failed to do so against the worst leader the LPC ever fielded … and he failed to do so going into a recession which should’ve sent Canadians flooding into the arms of the CPC.
    Harper FAILED? The truth is that the tax-funded CBC et al WON is what happened. You listen to those who hate Harper and they mouth the exact words they’ve heard on the CBC, plus the other networks, and most newspapers. Exact words. To them he still has a hidden agenda and is scary (read here he is a practicing Christian and does not personally believe in same-sex marriage and abortion).
    This is a Liberal country still. Harper (or any leader who succeeds him)cannot win unless an event, or series of events, occur that shocks the voters out of their Liberal robotic thinking. That is going to take something quite spectacular.

  13. gellen: All I’ll say is one word … “FORD.”
    His win destroys the myth that Canada is a left of centre country, as well as the myth that the leftwing media determines the winners and losers. A clear “big picture” message from a fiscal conservative point of view can win, and it resonated despite the leftist media filter. The excuses are all gone.

  14. Compare the length of the mayoral race and the years of slander endured by Stephen Harper.
    Doesn’t compute.
    He’s damned if he does (as others have said) and damned if he doesn’t.
    What he needs is a majority government, and he can’t get that with the fragile on and off CPC voters and lukewarm supporters. They don’t instill confidence in anyone to vote for the party and the idea that this is the time for a new leader (as suggested by others) sounds self-defeating.
    When the PM gets a majority government and fails, let me know.
    Until then, my main concern is keeping the Liberals out of power for at least 15 more years. That can’t be accomplished with this constant whinging by people who identify themselves as conservatives. Surprisingly, it most often begins before the full story is known.
    Wait for facts, write your MP and appropriate minister. Be involved.
    At least keep the faith with the same dedication and vigour as the Liberals and Dippers.

  15. So I’m guessing you guys will ball up and demand that Canada lower the military recruitment age to 15? Or the driving/voting/drinking age for that matter?
    If Omar was capable of making a rational adult choice, than other Canadian kids must be as well.
    I won’t hole my breath for you guys to see the hypocrisy of your views.

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