The JournoList

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1. Now all we need is a webbrowser plug-in that can red flag articles writen by these people :^)

2. I will be honest. I recognize 3 names on that list. Ho, hum.

3. so many jews….it always amazes me how many stupid jewish ‘intellectuals’ there exist…
   ….and today…given their recent as well as their earlier historical experiences…how can they be in the vanguard of diametrically opposed sensibilities….

4. A lot of names to come yet. Should we have a betting pool for how many grads from Ryerson or Carleton?

5. 65 of 400?
   Lots more to come.

6. It would be nice to know who these folks write for. It would also be nice to play the lefties game and call/write the editors of the papers and the different companies that advertise in those papers. If these papers and shows are hurting financially like I think they are the thought of a boycott just might make them drop said writers. It’s dirty pool but not half as dirty as what these folks were doing.

7. Hah! I was just scouring the net to see what I could learn about this, too. Shoulda known Kate would dig up something and just waited.

8. LOL rebarbarian. I was looking for CBC names. Since the southern Fox is involved, Don Newman’s name comes to mind.

9. Maybe we are approaching the point in our society where you can be “outed” for your religious affiliation, sexual orientation, or whatever, and nobody cares, BUT you can be “outed” for being a dishonest malevolant like these folks and it messes up your life.
   I’m hoping that’s the case. If so I’m feeling better about where our world is headed.

10. Look at the profile page of hatemonger Sarah Spitz. Who would have ever guessed that someone with such a big smile would ever say this:
    Via the Daily Caller, a local NPR producer named Sarah Spitz on if Rush Limbaugh went into cardiac arrest: she would “Laugh loudly like a maniac and watch his eyes bug out.”
    More from Sarah Spitz on Rush Limbaugh: “I never knew I had this much hate in me. But he deserves it.”

11. Robert W. (Vancouver) at 7:08 PM, I think she and our very own Heather Mallick could be BFF.

12. As these people are spread far and wide I would think the Tea Party people in the different areas could focus on them and the people they work for locally. The upcoming November elections are very important. If the news outlets these people work for were to be pressured big time from now until the election we just may see some better balanced writing. I’m sure a lot of the population are oblivious to how slanted the news is. Shine a spotlight on them one paper/newsroom at a time and we could see some results.

13. I think this is bad. Listing names reeks of a snitch society. I don’t like it. Private correspondence is private. Full stop.

14. Brick60. The issue isn’t about privacy. It’s about collusion. It’s like publishing the names of known criminals. With 400 people as members I don’t think they can make any complaint about privacy anyway. Considering by their own standards nothing is ever private when you’re talking to “the press”.

15. The names on that list read like this year’s donors honored by the United Jewish Appeal. Sorry, but I’m forced to ask why is the left so hugely attractive Jews? …2% of the population makes up about 40% to 50% of the Journolist lefties.

16. It’s like the mafia bieng run by teeny bopper girls on Twitter.

17. Sarah Spitz’s facebook page is gone… Anybody surprised?

18. “Private correspondence is private. Full stop”
    By its very nature, there’s nothing private about a listserv.

19. Here’s the Facebook page of ultra-violent-wannabe Spencer Ackerman. He said:
    “I do not endorse a Popular Front, nor do I think you need to. It’s not necessary to jump to Wright-qua-Wright’s defense. What is necessary is to raise the cost on the right of going after the left. In other words, find a rightwinger’s [sic] and smash it through a plate-glass window. Take a snapshot of the bleeding mess and send it out in a Christmas card to let the right know that it needs to live in a state of constant fear. Obviously I mean this rhetorically.”
    By the way, he also wrote:
    “Pick one of Obama’s conservative critics: Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares — and call them racists.”
    As I said earlier to a fellow Vancouver SDA regular, THESE are the THESE are the gatekeepers of information we call “news & opinion” which citizens make their decisions upon?!?

20. “It’s like the mafia bieng run by teeny bopper girls on Twitter” Speedy @7:35 PM
    =====================
    Images of Mallick and Zerb.

21. Amazing how the JournoList posters wanted to have a place where they could write their unedited opinions and true feelings without their editors and media police to come shut them down and then complain when their views are aired and nobody likes what they have to say.
    What I find so incredible is that most of these talking heads were spewing their hate and disgust of all things conservative. It shows how truly biased, liberal and undemocratic their thought patterns and convictions are. This is but a sampling of the left media, but it sure gives a look inside the closed shop talk that these traitors to all things sensible can get away with.
    I would like to know how these people get hired and who does the training and vetting processes, and why we have to put up with the crap that spews out of their mouths, pens and keyboards.
    Time to take back the industry and print real news, not manufactured and misleading “news” and for the most part op-ed pieces of Liberaland!

22. brick60
    Why it is like snitching? Do viewing some of their correspondence endangers their lives? They can endanger other’s people lives but you propose that their own lives should be private? Inviolate?
    They can publish list of more then 2,000 companies and their employees contracting for intelligence work for US government and the links between them [ http://projects.washingtonpost.com/top-secret-america/functions/air-and-space-ops/%5D
    but they, themselves should be untouchable?
    Why?

23. If someone sought pleasure in watching someone die of a heart attack, they have bigger problems than we suspected.

24. It’s the lefties that have set the standard for this dialogue. Surely they’re willing to own up to it, so publishing any such list shouldn’t be a problem.

25. My opinion is that Brick60 is a kindred soul (using the term rhetorically) to the maggots/seditionists of journolist.
    Ironically they have provided a list of enemies of the people. When the emotional event inevitably occurs…….
    The amusing thing is that somewhere on that list is a heroic figure who leaked/outed this thingy.
    This bolshevik cell will be more or less a circular firing squad trying to get the traitor.

26. While we’re on the topic of unprofessional, corrupt “journalists”, watch this video from Glen Beck’s show.

27. Another interesting video: Megyn Kelly discusses Journolist with Daily Caller’s Neil Patel.

28. I,m interested as well where these so called “Journalists” graduated.
    Just for the sake of people who are sending their kids to a collage. Trying to raise decent pppyoung folks. To avoid these pits of Socialism, that produced these dishonest creatures.
    Fascists with laptops.
    JMO

29. Brick60- This isn’t like Sulla’s proscriptions, these people are the ones making lists. As for the presence of Jews on the list, still some of the best conservative journalists are of Jewish descent.
    I think it is an embarrassment to most Jews that there were so many Jewish traitors that sold secrets to the Russians while living in one of the few countries that ever treated them as equals; and even encouraged them in their intellectual pursuits.

30. Revnant Dream – My sense of J-Schools, much of what comes from Mark Steyn’s writings – is that ALL such institutions are Socialist Indoctrination Centers for Kids (SICK). Anyhow, perhaps someone knows of a J-School that is not. Would love to hear about it!
    P.S. If you’re wondering, yes I just invented that acronym on the fly!

31. ‘jewish descent”…always makes me cringe..
    being a clever fellow you know of course that jewishness has been a cultural rather than a genome thing for rather a long while..
    it’s all about the ability to think in absolute terms…without self doubt..
    which is what our discussion is all about.

32. Here’s another excerpts from email conversations between JournoList journalists: Jonathan Zasloff, UCLA law professor, wrote “I hate to open this can of worms, but is there any reason why the FCC couldn’t simply pull (Fox News’) broadcasting permit once it expires?”

33. speaking of journalists, media and whut gets published:
    steve-o harper looking like mr same-old-same-old expediency:
    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/100721/national/census_resignation
    and
    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/100721/national/guergis_rcmp

34. Gord 7:30
    “It’s like publishing the names of known criminals”
    —-> No it isn’t. Because these people are not criminal. Private correspondence; saying things that aren’t nice to supposed “friends” is not a crime.

35. larben:
    “Brick60- This isn’t like Sulla’s proscriptions, these people are the ones making lists. As for the presence of Jews on the list, still some of the best conservative journalists are of Jewish descent.
    I think it is an embarrassment to most Jews that there were so many Jewish traitors that sold secrets to the Russians while living in one of the few countries that ever treated them as equals; and even encouraged them in their intellectual pursuits.”
    —-> I can’t see your point. Sorry.

36. Big Foot:
    My opinion is that Brick60 is a kindred soul (using the term rhetorically) to the maggots/seditionists of journolist.
    —> Huh! I thought I was a software salesman. Gotta tell the wife and boss that I’m a journolist shill. No wonder my wife was disappointed at my bonus this year. She got me hooked up with journolist to spread propaganda on Canadian blogs. I tell, you, it’s a good gig and pays well.

37. brick60 said “—-> No it isn’t. Because these people are not criminal. Private correspondence; saying things that aren’t nice to supposed “friends” is not a crime.”
    Maybe not criminal but immoral anyway. Sometimes the difference isn’t that great. These were never private correspondence. Not legally anyway. I bet most of these people haven’t met let alone are friends. What you have is 400 people in positions of trust who colluded to effect the outcome of an election by lying and cheating.
    If they signed agreements when they were hired as to their job descriptions and their behavior as employees which most major companies make you sign then they are probably in breach of contract. Which leaves them open to disciplinary action including firings and law suits. That’s close enough to criminal for me.

38. Brick60 – Not sure I can either, but then I’m not sure where you’re coming from. I mean isn’t this a lot of what journalists do, list? Get whatever information they can to prove what they think is the truth. Nobody ever suggested that journalism was a noble pursuit. What is it that really galls you? Is it the unfairness? Do you suppose even for a moment that the Left hasn’t got hit lists?

39. gord:
    “Maybe not criminal but immoral anyway.”
    Sure, and if Kate, Ezra, Shaidle and Mark Styen had nasty, off the record, emails between each other about, oh I dunno, somebody who is suing them, you’d be the first one to stand up in outrage right?
    What I’m saying gord is respsect privacy. OK? Don’t be a big budinski.

40. brick. Kate Ezra Shaidle and Styen are all old enough to look after themselves and I seriously doubt they would be stupid enough to send nasty emails around. And I don’t do outrage.
    I don’t think you know anything about privacy laws or you are intentionally being thick like a brick.
    Anyway. Moving on. You’ve yet to add anything to the discussion and I’m not getting paid to teach you. Bye.

41. gord:
    All people say things off the record that they don’t want others to read or hear. You’re a fool if you think otherwise.

42. gord:
    “I don’t think you know anything about privacy laws”
    —-> True enough, I’m not a lawyer. But I thought private correspondence was, you know, private.
    You can argue these guys are stupid, and I’d agree, but unless something is criminal, then it’s none of anybody’s business.
    So what, what I say here is going to come back to haunt me? Kate can do it, she has my isp and email, but I know she wouldn’t be low enough to expose me.

43. This is not some unethical revelation by any means. It’s hardly any different than if a group of like minded co-conspirators regularly met at a bar to “talk shop” and one or more of them repeated the conversation to someone outside the group. When you participate in a listserv it’s common knowledge that your contributions will end up stored on the computers or email accounts of all the other participants, so any expectation of confidentiality is limited to whatever informal trust exists among the members.
    What we had here were a lot of people masquerading as ostensibly objective journalists, conspiring with each other as to how best present a united front across all these supposedly independent media outlets, and in so doing define the public narrative with regard to particular issues. It’s what many of us have known for a long time now, this just happens to be a smoking gun. I think many of us are still rather taken aback by just how blatant and blasé they are about it, though.
    This needed to be revealed. These agitprop hacks have been perpetrating fraud on the public for decades. The only things any of them should reasonably expect to remain private are the terms and conditions of termination at their respective employers. I’m totally playing the world’s tiniest violin for them right now.

44. “But I thought private correspondence was, you know, private.”
    God you are thick. It was not PRIVATE. Try to grasp that point if it’s the only thing you learn today. Then try and tackle the other points people have made. Try not to delve into hypothetical situations and try and stick with the facts of the case.
    Try not to be a fool son. Your comprehension skills are suspect as you seem to be reading things into what other people say that aren’t there and at the same time ignoring facts that are obvious to everyone. If you are new to the concept of “having a discussion” maybe you should sit back and watch for a while before you jump in with both feet and sound like a complete dimwit.

45. Brick: These people are in a position to influence elections and ruin peoples reputations.They should expect a response to their actions.There was a southern judge that defended blacks and stood up to the KKK and because he was a republican,he was accused of racism and was defeated.One thing that I want you to remember,the KKK was an arm of the democratic party.The south was democrat because the republicans freed the slaves.

46. “But I thought private correspondence was, you know, private.”
    Posted on a listserv? The one thing I’m sure of – I don’t have any control of your “but I thoughts”. I’m sure your not a stupid person … just a person that has stupid thoughts.

47. It would be interesting to know which company/institution’s server operates the listserv. Any techie worth his salt that keeps that server running could see everything that’s posted. Sorta like the Climategate leak, which I believe was a leak, not a hack.

48. I’ve always been told at every place I worked to be careful what you say in an email for that very reason. However much you might want to believe your email communication is private, technically it is NOT.

49. As a professional systems administrator (aka “the guy who keeps the computers running”), maybe I can enlighten brick60 a bit here.
    There’s a profound distinction between legal and moral definitions of privacy at work, here. The Supreme Courts of both the United States and Canada have ruled that one has absolutely no expectation of privacy over electronic communications made on company time, over company comm networks, or using company equipment, period. It all belongs to the company who paid for it.
    Ezra Klein started JournoList as an employee of the Washington Post, using their corporate resources to do so. That makes all communication on that list the “property” of the Washington Poist, in some nebulous sense.
    I say “nebulous” because it was a listserv, not a web site or forum, and so copies of all messages were sent to all the members. It’s no different to being a subscriber to a magazine that is only available to subscribers (such as some highly technical trade magazines in the computer industry).
    No one would try to claim that the information, letter columns, or articles in those magazines were private or privileged in even the moral sense, much less the legal sense. The people on JournoList simply never had nor should have expected to have any privacy whatsoever w/r/t their postings to that list.
    Comparing the JournoList to, say, a private conversation between colleagues in a private gathering or physical letter post isn’t germane; email – technically, legally, and socially – doesn’t work like that.
    More to the point, there’s an extremely compelling public interest angle to all this. If highly-placed executives of any industry – say, the oil industry, perhaps? – were meeting regularly in a public place and loudly, nay, vitriolically discussing how much they hated a particular public figure, or readily identifiable group, or even a widely-held ideology, then that would absolutely be news, and would be reported on.
    If this group of executives not only did this, but claimed to hold the exact opposite views while performing their job duties, that would really be news, as well as redlining everybody’s BS meter.

50. The USA has Anti-Trust Laws that are/were very strict with regard to “competing” media. I have played the game @ the Network level and any conversation, even in a bar, that would suggest collusion is a clear violation.
    I am not a lawyer but…IMHO if these folks are employees, not freelance, they and thier employer could be popped………..
    It is ones Character that is reveled when you think your private thoughts/utterances will not become known….