Now is the time at SDA when we juxtapose!
Toronto Sun, June 25th – The latest disturbing development in McGuinty’s Ontario is the same unit of the Ontario Provincial Police charged with minimizing violence by highway-blockading native protesters and anti-G8/G20 radicals, is now phoning up and showing up at the homes of law-abiding, middle-aged rural folks opposed to wind factories.
Globe&Mail, June 26th – “Police maintained tight lines around the summit site, but largely did not intervene as marchers destroyed property.”
More here (link fixed) – ” It has been confirmed that Mike Crawley called up the OPP to initiate an investigation into a “possible” protest because he was “alarmed” at mounting opposition. Mike Crawley, the CEO of International Power Canada, also happens to be the recently resigned President of the Federal Liberal Party”
h/t Paul Sepe
Green power bafflegab is nothing but a thin coat of paint for another Lieberal patronage scam? Can this really be true?
Gaddamm scoff-laws. Who the hell do they think they are? Their stupid outmoded belief in property rights is putting a kink in the boss’s green racketeering. Better get some body armor and helmets, pack some Glocks, MP5s and tasers and pay ’em a visit to remind ’em who’s the big boss hog ‘roun here.
Regarding G20 rioters, our fine thin blue line was merely obeying new policing strategies which hold that there are no victims to protect or perpetrators to arrest, the prime directive is ‘peacekeeping’. There is already enough violence created by criminals without escalating the violence by trying to physically stop or restrain them. Just let them do their thing, help clean up the mess on the sidewalk afterwards, take a few statements for the record and let insurance or the tax payer pick up the tap for any personal or property loss.
The new policing – keeping the law abiding complainers firmly in their place, tolerating criminality to achieve ‘peace’.
Maybe McGuinty and the OPP have taken David Suzuki’s suggestion and started arresting people who do not believe in AGW.
What else did you expect from the new Marxist Liberals?
Ontario . . . getting the government and policing they voted for.
The results . . . private property sacrificed to the mob & hooligans, lawful citizens harassed by special police, is a self inflicted wound inflicted by voting for Dulton and his gang of thugs.
Pity . . . but it is their own fault.
I love it when Ontario continues to look more stupid by the day.
Because they actually are getting more stupid by the day.
I actually considered moving back to Ontario to retire, but after a couple of visits and a close look at politics in that quagmire of a province, I decided that ‘west is best’ and in my case “the coast is the most’.
Thanks for staying away, Abe. I’m angry about our present government, but your senile, narrow-minded bullshit wouldn’t have added anything.
I know, I know, I’m dreaming, this is Toronto after all, but just in case they hold the next big conference out of liberal land….
http://www.duhaime.org/legaldictionary/C/CitizensArrest.aspx
“In Canada, the law in regards to a citizen’s arrest is codified at ¶494 of the Criminal Code as follows:
“Any one may arrest without warrant a person whom he finds committing an indictable offence; or a person who, on reasonable grounds, he believes has committed a criminal offence, and is escaping from and freshly pursued by persons who have lawful authority to arrest that person.
“Any one who is the owner or a person in lawful possession of property, or a person authorized by the owner or by a person in lawful possession of property, may arrest without warrant a person whom he finds committing a criminal offence on or in relation to that property.
“Any one other than a peace officer who arrests a person without warrant shall forthwith deliver the person to a peace officer.” ”
What happens when the “lawful peace officer” refuses to accept your prisoner?
You get charged with assault, because you have infringed upon the rights of the police to do their job. In effect taking away their union job.
You lose. Criminal element sues you for damages, first born, whatever. You go broke, he’she’it goes free.
The legal authoities are hired now only to protect the “legal authorities”. They write the rules for themselves, not you. The rest of you best keep your noses clean and keep your mouths shut, or you end up in jail or in CHRC hell.
Hmmm U of T, which was supposed to be closed, was housing Black Bloc idiots in the Grad Students Union building.
“Peaceful protest” now broken up outside the detention centre. Speculation, cops doing the right strategic thing since I suspect this was going to be about blocking reinforcements.
The detention area is also the staging area of the mass of cops. An additional 1000!!! came into the city last night.
Once again speculation, the cops knew what was up and were not about to let it grow.
And yes Craig Keilburger must be incredibly torn wishing he could join the whine. What a tool. Cops have weapons” and protestors are holding up “peace signs”….yup, he doesnt have a point of view.
Much prefer Lisa LaFlamme, who is telling us how the black block operates, what their codewarods are, tells us names of these guys. She is truely amazed that one guy was a YOGA instructor who also produces very violent rap songs. Her quote…”it makes you just wonder where it ends with this guy?”
She is absolutely correct.
Stan, there’s one important clause missing from your quote there. It reads:
“Any one may arrest without warrant a person whom he finds committing an indictable offence…”
“… unless somebody important finds this to be inconvenient.”
Its like the “Notwithstanding” clause, you just take it as read that any law will be set aside if a sufficiently high ranking Liberal Party poobah says so.
Anything that happens in the leftist miasma called Toronto is the fault of all Ontario according to many here.
I guess all the NDP and Liberal strongholds west of Ontario make westerners all leftists.
Ontario gave the Conservatives more seats than anywhere in Canada last election. Narrow-mindedness on the right hand side of the political spectrum can be readily seen here. As a staunch conservative, I find it ugly.
I was flabbergasted by Lisa myself. Started wondering if she is angling for a job on SunTV.
I don’t find it a bit surprising that Fiberals are ramming unreliable energy down rural Ontario’s throat. It’s what happens when Fiberal Toronto controls the direction of more Conservative rural Ontario.
Looks like the street scum are being effectively dealt with today. The cops are using the Arwin gun to fire crowd control rounds at the mob.
Good on the cops for starting to take back the streets from the ooze that rose up yesterday to vandalize private property.
Go cops go . . . .
What may be one reason for the jack-boot visit from Ontario police is the damage done to a solar park property here in Eastern Ontario…
http://www.thereview.ca/story/solar-park-house-destroyed-east-hawkesbury
More bullets please! Anyone see any updates on how the horse is that went down last eve? I’d like to know where all the animal rights activists (PETA) are? Why aren’t they out there demanding justice for this poor horse? And,asking why all the crowd was laughing and cheering when she went down.
And if you stood inside your business window armed with a shotgun while the angry mob throws bricks and firebombs into windows, you KNOW who the police would arrest.
We are building a house in Ontario but we are amazed by the increase in paperwork, permits and cost required to build on a rural property since we last investigated this possibility B.M. (Before McGuinty). We are getting the hell out of Quebec, but it feels like out of the pot into the fire.
Our neighbour built an experimental small windmill next to our land and, when we questioned the possible effect on our land value, not to mention the possible noise, he got all snippy. As it turns out it isn’t very noisy or too tall nor too ugly, but we didn’t know how it would be.
Nicola, have you seen the provincial ones? The blades are larger and longer than a school bus. Its a frickin’ 80 foot long blade cutting through the air in a circle, times three.
They sound like jet helicopter when the wind gets up. Whiiiiiine whup whup whup whup…. Plus there’s this infra-bass note that shakes your rib cage if you’re close enough.
Imagine a chopper hovering in one place, forever. Next to your house. That’s a windmill. Say thank you to the nice Liberals.
Ontario may be stupid, but it’s the federal cons who put G20 in TO. Dumb and dumber.
After sitting in traffic 2 1/2 hours just to have to turn around and go back home, many must have put black clothes and bandanas on and turned up in DT with lighters.
And Harper has guts to send me his letter size signed picture the day after. It is now duly lining the trashcan.
Nicola…comparing the wind generator you’re talking about to a 2.4 MW Industrial turbine is like comparing a flea to an elephant.
Families in Ontario have been forced to abandon their homes because Gerretsen rubberstamped all wind projects with no environmental assessment and allowed them to be built way too clustered and close to family homes.
I wonder what would happen if the Black Bloc got shit kicked by the crowd, and I mean shit kicked. Wouldn’t that be a happy day!!
There are parts of Western Canada that that would be a very likely outcome.
Aaron…you and the others who have serious HDS( Harper derangement Syndrome) are part of the problem. Do you really think any other city in Canada would haved fared differently than your beloved COTU?
Harper did not invite the anarchists to break the windows of the hard working legitimate businesses on Yonge street. Harper did not order to cops to back off while the pigs went wild. Harper did not stop the well behaved ‘protesters’ from exercising their freedom. Harper did not ‘organise’ like Sid Ryan and his ilk.
Get a grip.
I saw enough of those petty comments on the G&M site last night.
Yeah right, put it in some small town. Brilliant. They need about 15000 rooms to house the participants plus the infrastructure to deal with that influx, not to mention housing and feeding the security that is needed or there would be a line up of nut-case suicide bombers that would be thrilled to go boom.
Toronto was the best place to do it and the cost is in line with past events of this size, the diminutive frog’s cost assessment notwithstanding.
They shoot rioters, don’t they?
Fred,
Saw that. I think the sensitivity is they dont want to let a crowd slowly gather outside the detention centre, which is also the marshalling and coordination point for the police.
Crowd gums up deployment of the cops, and there are LOTS of cops, out to the areas that they are needed.
The battle wil continue tonight, and once the leaders are gone there will be less need to be nice. The cops wont allow property damage again on that scale.
as well, they have an additional 1,000 OPP guys. Take what you had, which was performing a blocking function. Remove the labour protestors from yesterday (the Black Block’s beard) and add in 1000 extra OPP and you now have a clearer target and more resources to not just blunt and deflect but to pen in and quash.
It will be a long night
POWinCA said: “They shoot rioters, don’t they?”
No. They shoot shop owners for defending themselves from rioters. Rioters are part of the city council’s core constituency.
Don’t make the mistake of thinking I’m kidding.
If they didn’t let them riot it would be police brutality. Now that the media has identified them as a minority of losers there is not as much concern for their wellbeing. I still prefer arresting them in the act though. I didn’t see crowds in the destruction pictures, I saw citizens standing in doorways with cameras and nutbars being destructive.
Rubber bullets.
Right to the kneecaps.
The police should ask themselves what would remove them from the financial food chain earlier- their arresting of nutjobs who beat up people and smash windows or the victims of these aforementioned nutjobs fighting back? Look at David Chen:
http://www.torontosun.com/comment/columnists/peter_worthington/2010/06/16/14416596.html
Why should people perpetually put up with crap?
It doesn’t matter where these summits are held. The mobs come in from all over; tourists of a different sort. You could have it in the middle of rural farmland – like Woodstock – but it would still become a teeming mass of degenerates.
“And if you stood inside your business window armed with a shotgun while the angry mob throws bricks and firebombs into windows, you KNOW who the police would arrest.”
I’m reminded of the LA Riots. Entire neighborhoods were on fire but Korean shopowners managed to protect their livelihoods by doing just what you describe (from their rooftops).
I think the powers-that-be, throughout much of the Western world, are underestimating the will and ability of people to start providing for their own safety if officialdom continues being derelict in that duty. I’d wager that Arizona is on the verge of Old West justice starting to appear spontaneously.
KevinS, having lived in both Arizona and Ontario I’ll tell you this:
In Arizona I’d defend my home with deadly force in a heart beat. Here in Ontario I’d run like a deer and let ’em burn the son of a b1tch.
The difference? In Ontario there’s a really good chance I’d die in jail for doing something the Governor of Arizona would pin a medal on me for.
Again, not kidding. This place is run by the insane, and you don’t have to look farther than ten minutes down the road from my house to see it. The sh1t they get away with in Caledonia every d@mn day would see them pushing up daises in Arizona.
That’s why illegals are starting to move out of AZ. They finally stepped over the line and woke up the dog. Dogie has a -fine- set of teeth.
Well heck Phantom, come back down! All you have to do is slip over the border under cover of night and they’ll start throwing food stamps and welfare checks at you. Actually, on second thought it might be a bit harder coming over the northern border. They are, after all, spending millions on upgrading a checkpoint in Vermont dairy country that probably sees about 50 cars per day. We have had such a rash of Canadian physicians and other educated professionals coming down here. That crap has got to end!
But in all seriousness, our immigration policies are absolutely asinine. I have a German friend with a medical degree, speaks perfect English, and even lived in the US for years when his dad was a diplomat. He would be as close to seamless integration as an immigrant could be, yet he has been turned down for residency on the basis that he does not suffer “hardship” in Germany. Then on a nearly daily basis I have to wait in line at the grocery store behind some people who just came into the country that morning, plopping down food stamps for junk food. I know it’s the same sort of insanity in Canada.
Will the madness never end?!
Aaron: Harper has guts to send me his letter size signed picture
Aaron, come on now, Fess up. If you received the photo then you donated to the party. Or your wife; or your child; or your father. But, obviously someone who knows your real name and address.
If you didn’t donate, I’d notify the police that your identity has been stolen.
C’mon gellen…don’t spoil the poor guy’s day!
He sounds so sure that the photo was a personal thing between him and PMSH.
Doesn’t take long for government socialists to suborn Police into their little fascist lifestyle, with Mega benefits. Not so much for the guys on the line though.
The odium Police forces around the World now are held in because of abusing the peaceful while standing by watching the guilty. The other is to run away. Something becoming normal.
Can be directly correlated to the appeasement mode of the Local Politician. The PC quotient of any Province will direct policy.
This is what happens when you politicize an essential service, by abandoning the Equality before the Law statutes.
The fact that Police now are ruled themselves by a political self serving brass. As an added bonus militant Unions to color it blacker.
Just makes it more shameful.
Buy a gun or use a detective service. The police are mostly out of the criminal catching biz anyway. More lucrative to be goons for a Polity out to abuse its citizens.
JMO
Hey bluetech and gellen- lay off of poor old Aaron there. Harper needs to be kept on his toes. He hasn’t been in his finest form lately. A billion and one buckaroos to deal with a bunch of hippies?! Get the eff out of here! Someone is walking around with 990million dollars in their pant pocket,and no mistake.
Seanbot,
Tehre were a lot of hippies in that march. But the anarchists….Black Bloc…..real pros. And there are more than a handful. Over 1,000….not sure if its over 2,000…but definitely over 1,000
The question is do they move to the next level? think Baader Meinhof kind of level….seriously.
juxtapose this if you got the guts.
http://www.newsweek.com/blogs/the-gaggle/2010/06/25/newspapers-retract-climategate-claims-but-damage-still-done.html
Right..Harper needs to be kept on his toes, anarchists not so much..gotcha.
HDS much?
Overall Costs: G8
Year Country Costs Costs (in $US at time of summit)
2000 Japan ¥80 billion8 $734 million
2001 Italy $100-225 million9 $100-225 million
2002 Canada C$192-300 million10 $127-199 million
2003 France NA NA
2004 United States $26.3 million11 $26.3 million
2005 United Kingdom £90.1 million12 $157 million
2006 Russia Rb10.7 million13 $397 million
2007 Germany $134 million14 $134 million
2008 Japan ¥60 billion15 $559 million
2009 Italy €184.9 million16 $260 million
2010 Canada C$500 million17,18 $475 million
I am thinking that the amount spent is proportionate to the corruption of the country. Russia’s number hinted me to that theory.
Way to go, Canada! No wonder they need HST on new homes now – to pay for the summit and bailouts.
I won’t make a mistake donating to CPC ever again. They clearly demonstrated that their hand is firmly planted in the taxpayers wallets to a much higher degree than the liberals according to the table above.
Aaron…you will vote for the Liberals because they were crtical of the amount of money spent to keep your beloved COTU safe…?
And obviously if less was spent the anarchists would not have wreaked havoc on Yonge Street…right?
Are you old enough to vote?
Poor old Aaron ….damned if he do and damned if he dont………….serves ya right to suffer.
BTW … I thoroughly enjoyed the CBC/CTV/Global video from the streets of TO ….. (sound off) funny how there never seems to be cameras trained on the freaks when they’re throwing things though!
Millar … McGuinty … and company … they voted for em ….. they deserve the consequences.
Ratface Al McGuinty makes Bobby Rae look decent.
Budgets/Schmudgets- Those figures are completely meaningless.
Flaherty already stated that all relevant costs will be assigned to the G8/G20 price tag and be totally transparent.
Soooo, by the Feds picking up all the extra policing costs, does this mean all the municipal jurisdictions will get to exclude the salaries and overheads of their own personel while so employed? I would think so.
But, in Aaron’s listing above, Well, ya! I’m certainly ready to take those figures as gospel!
After all, what reason would any of them have for excluding costs of army, police force, security, media, transportation, extraordinary construction, etc from their normal budgets?
Some people are so.. aw, forgedaboutit..
Yep, I’m sure to run right out and vote Liberal now that I’ve seen LIBERAL policing policy in action in down town Toronto. “Let them smash up as many stores as they like, it’ll keep them too busy to rush the fence guarding the -important- people.
Oh yeah, and I’m sure to vote NDP after watching that paragon Sid Ryan provide cover for car burning @ssholes. There was no other day of the year they could have held a union parade but yesterday?
You know what? I said that a billion bucks for this thing was a dire waste of money. But if it shakes a few Morontonians out of their fricking mental malfunction to watch unionist thugs trash their favorite stores, it will have been worth every penny.
Notice how MSM never labelled the Liberal brand of the McGuinty gov’t when referencing the legislation. Instead the chosen reference was the “Ontario” gov’t, the “province”, and “Queen’s Park had passed the legislation“. Never the “Liberal gov’t”, is it?! Don’t want to taint the brand if you’re in MSM, after all. You know if the feds passed it and did so in secret as McGuinty did, the gov’t would have been labelled “conservative” as often as reporters could insert it, playing into their the-Conservative-gov’t-is-secretive theme — one of their favourites.
As for the protests, good to see the police took the initiative today. Kudos. Loved to see some of CTV’s crew detained too, including the multi-talented Lisa LaFlamme, who, along with being a Liberal shill is an actress who plays a news reporter on TV. That said, the police got the wrong one. Should have been Craig …. (Keilberger, is it?), CTV’s guest activist reporter, who made the claim that the billion dollars spent on the summit — if in $20 bills — would equal the height of 9 CN Towers, which, at approximately 1,800 feet, would be roughly 3 miles high. No hyperbole in that. In fact, I recall Kate, or one of the guest SDA bloggers, perhaps even a visitor (I can’t recall), posted a link that showed what a trillion dollars in hundred dollar bills placed on skids looks like, and it was about a city block at less than 2 stories high from what I remember. Perhaps someone has the link to the image so thers can see how ridiculous Craig’s claim was.
Found the link. Scroll down to what a billion dollars looks like, never mind a trillion.
Not sure how 5 times the image adds up to 9 CN Towers. Craig was reporting for CTV so I guess exaggeration and lies comes with the territory.
http://www.pagetutor.com/trillion/index.html
Showing up at homes eh?
What’s the criminal code section again about defending one’s property?
I think it’s in the 30 sections.
Where’s the Korean shopkeeper from the LA riots when we could use him?