Okay…halal sausage is okay.
Paris police on Tuesday banned a controversial ‘pork sausage and wine’ street party planned by extremist groups to combat what they saw as the ‘Islamisation’ of a city neighbourhood.
The event was planned for Friday evening at a time when the district’s streets are usually jammed with Muslims coming out of mosques and just before Algeria were due to play England in the football World Cup.
But police banned the event and any rival gatherings in the Goutte d’Or area of northern Paris’ 18th arrondissement, or district, saying in a statement that it was likely to cause ‘serious risks to public order.’
Ponder that last statement for a minute: a group of French people announce that they’re going to eat French food in public, in France, and it’s deemed a “serious risk to public order” – a provocation, in effect.
Interesting times:
“A French government minister of Algerian descent…condemned the planned party as ‘hateful, racist and xenophobic.'”
The mind reels! In actuality, CONDEMNING the planned party is ‘hateful, racist and xenophobic.’
Who gets they’re shorts in a knot over a bloody tailgate party, fercrissake…nevermind; that’s already asked and answered.
(And it’s not “racist” it’s biggoted)
France going down for the fourth time in one hundred and forty years. This time they won’t even try to fight back.
Well, we had “Everybody Draw Mohamed Day”, I’d say its time for Bacon Day.
Don’t piss these guys off. Remember those car-b-ques a couple of years back. Could happen again, you know!
I mean those cheese eating surrender monkeys wouldn’t want to try and take back land now would they??
Not a bad idea, Phantom. Mind you, I like bacon, and don’t consider eating it to be a provocation.
Anyone who could be provoked to violence by someone exercising a perfectly normal communal activity has their butthole wired permanently shut. It’s the xenophobe who wishes to suck all the small pleasures out of life for others.
I hate to think of what would be in store for any terminally constipated xenophobe who tried to shut down a block party in my neck of the woods.
Frankly, I think Canada would be a perfect place, from coast to coast to coast, to host a sausage and French wine party. Let’s send a message to Les Peasant du France that we plebeians on this side of the pond are with them. We might even get Quebec onside.
Get bacon!
http://www.signpictures.net/pictures/push_button_receive_bacon.jpg
Open up your mouth and say: allah…..
I’d have to say that France is already over when a group is labelled “extremist” for eating sausage and drinking wine. When the stone agers reach critical mass in Montreal, they will wreak havoc on their liberal (Liberal) enablers. I guess every dark cloud has a silver lining.
I don’t eat pork for health reasons, not religious ones. That being said, maybe a few charring vehicles, well placed in the street could make for a great Car-B-Q!!!
Let the Parisian parties begin!!!
We are next! The critical mass is developing and some one has to stop the train wreck. I am for restricting immigration. We have done it before and must do it again.
Winston Churchill
“Goats eyes, ?anyone,
taste like chicken”
Except substitute some good Niagara and Kelowna wine for the overpriced French stuff. The producers could use the business = cost of living is going up here and in BC big time on July 1st.
The real story is this: the citizens meekly obeyed the order.
In a country with balls, the silly order would have been openly defied.
The fact that a French neighborhood group is fed up with the islamification of their turf is good news, and just the beginning of a national awakening, no matter what the cops do in the name of public order.
Who’s running France? Is it a free country?
A fundamental mistake is continuing to believe France is still France when significant portions are Muslim.
The fascinating and tragic thing is the French, and whole swaths of people the world over for that matter, seem incapable of recognizing that a similar fate awaits the entire nation and all nations if we acquiesce to Islam’s demands.
If the West wants to save itself, it has to get completely off the multicultural track.
Wouldn’t it be great if we could entice them all to go back where they can practice their religion without offending western values? I wonder if there is a deal to be made somehow, somewhere? I’d sure prefer to have an Isreali as my neighbor!
I don’t eat bacon, because I can’t countenance the way pigs are farmed and slaughtered. (I do occasionally eat beef. My excuse: While pigs are very intelligent as animals go, cows are not. Also, cows are bigger than pigs, so 500g beef = less guilt than 500g pork.)
I will, however, participate enthusiastically in a protest day dedicated to drinking French plonk, being nice to dogs, not dressing up in a black tent, saying what I want and telling anyone who has a problem with it what they can do where.
Liz J – it’s just too bad Marshal Petain is dead, because he’s the sort of man who’d know how to come to an official understanding with France’s new Muslem population.
France is part of Eurabia isn’t it?. It’s one of the ‘new’ islamic republics, like the UK, Netherlands and Sweden.
I agree Phantom. Everything IS better with bacon and a day celebrating its goodness is an excellent idea. We already know that the pig is the wonderful, magical animal. Could it possibly also become the ultimate saviour of Western Civ? I’m thinking maybe yes.
Erik Larsen: Love it!
EBD – am I the only one who sees that this event was not just a ‘normal French summer street party’ but was geared by Group A to provoke a particular Group B?
I’m going by the article, but it defines the ‘other group’ as Muslim, sets up the time as ‘mosque time’ (right after evening prayers) AND also, as ‘nationalistic time’ (just before a group-based sports event between Islamic Algeria and non-Islamic England).
Group A defines its identity as Not Group B, by its food menu of pork and wine..and makes this event public. I’m sorry, but this is open provocation.
How about some other examples? How about having a street party, with pork and wine, in the midst of an orthodox Jewish neighbourhood on the sabbath eve, or Yom Kippur? How about setting up a street art show of anti-Christian posters across the street from a Catholic Church on Christmas Day?
IF the street party was not so specifically defined as Group A is NOT Group B, and specifically taking place in that area (Mosque area and Mosque time)and that time (Mosque time and Soccer Time)…then, the issue would not be relevant. But, I’m sorry – I think it’s clear and open provocation by one group against another group.
ET – “…setting up a street art show of anti-Christian posters across the street from a Catholic Church on Christmas Day” would be rude and offensive, although that would not justify a ban. If throwing a peaceful street party partly for the purposes of demonstrating, in public, that you, the adherents of the established culture of the land, do not abide by the ritual religious customs of aggressive immigrant interlopers is “provocation”, then that sort of provocation is a good thing.
It deserves mentioning that “setting up a street art show of anti-Christian posters across the street from a Catholic Church on Christmas Day” may result in heated discussion and some torn posters, at worst, while having a pork festival outside a mosque in certain districts of France, or any other highly Islamicized country, at any time, will likely result in spin-off violence at best, thuggery, assault and death at worst.
There may be equal provocation but the reaction is nowhere equal.
I see it quite differently than you do, ET. Yes, it’s intended as a provocation, but it should only provoke Muslims who think it’s their business what French people eat. IF it’s a provocation to say “This is France. We can eat what we’ve been eating in this country for five hundred years even if it’s in ‘your’ neighbourhood. We’re standing up for that right. If you don’t like it, tough” then it’s the case that the Muslim standard that holds such an display of essential civil rights to be a provocation is unreasonable.
Suppose it starts happening – if it’s not happening already, unreported – that Muslims in certain areas of large French cities deem the public appearance of an unveiled woman to be a provocation. By the standard you appear to be using to define provocation (having foreknowledge that the reaction is forthcoming) then an ‘unveiling’ street protest by French women in a Muslim neighbourhood would also constitute a provocation. Would you suggest that French women in those areas shouldn’t go unveiled because it’s a provocation?
The example about having a pork and wine party in an orthodox Jewish neighbourhood is an invalid one, because Jews aren’t threatening the goyim over what they eat, they’re not burning cars, they’re not calling for the imposition of a worldwide Jewish caliphate, they’re not calling for the beheading of the leaders of different faiths, they’re not demanding that women of other faiths cover up, they’re not threatening and murdering and putting death threats on writers, directors, and other people who criticize Judaism…etc.
Suppose I moved to another country, ET – say a Middle Eastern country – and caused trouble because they didn’t follow *my* religious strictures. Suppose I deemed that the sight of one of the original inhabitants eating a traditional food that my religion prohibits ME from eating was a provocation. If one of those inhabitants – or a group of them – pushed back by openly eating their traditional food in their neighbourhood, in their country, which I now happen to live in, and I deemed it a provocation, I would be the problem. Just that straight.
It would be a provocation to burn Korans, taunt Muslims and spray racist graffiti on their homes. The sight of French men and women eating French food on a French street is only a provocation to people who need to be taught a lesson. Put differently, if eating French food is a provocation, as you suggest, and if one can be provoked by the sight of a country’s natives citizens eating their own food, then one is too provokable, and *needs* to become inured – sooner than later – to the sights and sounds of the country that let one in.
So yes, the eating of French food and the drinking of win is a provocation, but only in the sense that black kids going to school with white kids was a provocation to redneck Alabamans. Both situations are guaranteed to provoke a reaction, but this fact doesn’t put the onus on the group who are just standing up for their rights. I mean, those black kids surely knew that their behaviour would badly provoke a lot of people, right? Should they therefore have refrained from their schooling activities?
French people can eat French food in public in France. If this provokes Muslims, then French people are also free to provoke Muslims.
Heading out for the day, I’ll check in later.
Black Mamba (9:05): Verily.
Your analogy is bullshit ET. Blond Swedish women are raped in Malmo just for walking the streets blond with no scarf over their heads. Some Swedish women even go as far to dye their hair brunet to avoid the assaults… So I ask you ET, when will European women be forced by law to cover their heads as not to offend the savages?
ET said: “But, I’m sorry – I think it’s clear and open provocation by one group against another group.”
Of course it is. Like nobody ever organizes provocations against our culture with perfect impunity, ET. The Gay Pride parade springs forcibly to mind. Or Tamils blocking the Gardiner, Indians taking over a whole housing project in Caledonia… et cetera.
However, consider that the Tim Horton’s Breakfast Sandwich (mmmmm, baaaaaaaacon) is a provocation to these people. McDonald’s Egg McMuffin (blah) is a provocation. They picket the restaurants. Not because they have to eat it, but because WE eat it. We don’t even make them watch and its still a provocation.
The only possible response to violent retards with insane demands is to POINT and LAUGH.
Bacon Day.
Its a provocation whose time has come. We go forth and eat bacon, wear bacon, and drive around in cars with bacon. Bacon hats, bacon bumper stickers, bacon bacon bacon. When some feeble Sharia idiot inevitably makes a fuss, we tell them they can’t have any of our bacon.
They chose the wrong provocative act. They should have held a ‘gay pride’ parade in the same neighbourhood.
How about a system of “provocation trading”. I’ll forego one sausage-party-provocation if you forego one mosque-at-ground-zero. Not an equal trade you say? Ok then let’s assign credits, maybe it will take one sausage-party-provocation plus one Mohammed-cartoon-provocation. I’m sure we could work something out.
How long till Oktoberfest is banned on Fridays in Bavaria.
I’ll try again.
The Agenda of stating to a foreign culture that WE are not constrained to live by your rules is valid. But deliberately provoking that foreign culture by an exclusionary act won’t accomplish this agenda.
All you are doing is saying: We are Not You. Fine. I agree. But you are also saying. Since We are Not You, and You are Not Us, then all we can do is fight each other, or have one side subdue the other by force. I don’t agree with this method.
For example: Host the street party. Same time; same place. BUT, have booths that offer your pork and wine; and booths that offer..vegetables and juice. That point is, to reject THEIR insistence that WE have to follow their rules, and show them that both sides can live in the same area.
Same thing – If Muslims declare that an unveiled woman is unacceptable- the answer is not a provocation of unveiled..because that puts those women at risk..but the GOVERNMENT having a law that forbids the veil.
But setting up Group A vs Group B won’t accomplish the goal of making Group B (the Muslims) acknowledge that they can’t force their agenda on us. It will simply set up further hatred and grievances.
Two methods: Include them in the surroundings, while insisting that ALL groups have their cultural modes…that are NOT universal, and Government rules against such intrusions of a foreign culture insisting that all behave as they do.
But setting up Group A vs Group B won’t accomplish the goal of making Group B (the Muslims) acknowledge that they can’t force their agenda on us
Sure it will; it’s called desensitization therapy.
I vote with EBD on this one. It is time to push back.
ET – but that’s not the sort of street party Jacques and Elise want to throw. They want to throw a French street party. In France. They’re not aiming to host folkfest.
And why must the government fight the West’s civilizational battles? What makes you think they could, or would?
Somehow I rather enjoy watching those *current arrogant condescending inhabitants of France locked in a mortal cultural battle with the Snakes of Islam.
It’s sort of like your proverbial mother-in-law driving over a cliff in your new car.
But that is not reason to NOT stop all Muslim immigration to the West NOW!
* current inhabitants to be entirely replaced within two generations. The snakes will win because they have sex for children rather than pure recreation. Not that there’s anything wrong with recreational sex.
The entertainment value of the West going down the tubes just gets more intense with each passing year. Too bad there are no leaders other than Geert Wilders who will stand up and do anything about it.
ET said: “Same thing – If Muslims declare that an unveiled woman is unacceptable- the answer is not a provocation of unveiled..because that puts those women at risk..but the GOVERNMENT having a law that forbids the veil.”
OH no. Government is the one actor we do -not- want messing in this. What are you going to do, wear a veil until the official veil ban kicks in?
If Muslims in Toronto should be such fools to declare un-veiled women are a provocation, the only reasonable answer is unveiled women 24/7/365 in their streets. ARMED un-veiled women, should that prove necessary.
Freedom does not come from government, freedom is what you have when you refuse to bow to unreasonable demands no matter what their source.
The proper job of government in these kinds of things is strictly after action clean-up.
ET: “But, I’m sorry – I think it’s clear and open provocation by one group against another group.”
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And a long overdue one at that. The provocation, IMHO, is aimed not just as the Islamofascists in their midst, but at all levels of the French establishment and ruling class, from municipal to national and maybe even to the rest of Eurabia. As far as I’m concerned, if they choose to go ahead with it on some other date (How about Bastille Day. It’s coming up and would be highly symbolic.) I think the rest of the Western world should declare that we are all Parisian. You seem to be advocating that the French should lay down and submit like a bunch of sheep.
Well the gay community in England has finally waken up and are no longer useful idiots for the Islamists, story here: http://news.pinkpaper.com/NewsStory.aspx?id=3219
Our governments demand we tolerate the supremacists’ demands of Muslims and if we refuse they render our refusal illegal acts or acts of racism.
I’m for provoking invasive foreign cultures.
That said, pork is a product that has sustained the French nation for millenia, wine too.
Canada and the U.S., as nations, were built on pork.
Toronto and Chicago were the main pork stockyards that fed our nations.
Many in Western Canada still call Toronto “Hog Town” today.
It’s time the French stood up against their police state.
So tell me,ET:when I want to have a bar’bque in my back yard,the cops can come in and shut it down???
So do you want to put up a pic of you in a gunny sack? I know a few gals around here who would rip that piece of male provacation of you so fast your head would spin.
And guess what.My next door neighbours are Jewish(or is that Jooooosss).And I have pork on the barbie,and they bring over their kosher meat,and we have a great time.Oh BTW,they like Moosehead beer,so I guess they are heathens?
I’ve said it before “cartoons and bacon : the new rebellion.
We have rampant sharia creep, and this Paris Police Pork Protest is halal creep. Islam means surrender.
I have previously posted on cartons and bacon at
http://thedailyrasp.blogspot.com/2010/06/dhimmitude-sucks-cartoons-and-bacon-new.html
Are there still trees in France for the non-Islamic French citizens to hide behind?
Seen outside the Health Sciences Centre in Winnipeg yesterday (the largest hospital complex in the Province of Manitoba)- a woman wearing a hijab running a hot dog cart. I wish I could have stopped to ask her if they were all beef sausages.
“Give me Kubasa or give me death!” – Al the Fish June 17, 2010
My favourite Kubasa source:
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/entertainment/restaurants/a-sausage-party-and-some-yiddish-comfort-69948347.html
This is basically two groups demonstrating intolerance to the others diet, lifestyle, beliefs.
There is such a thing as prior right.
It is preposterous for immigrants to over-rule a prior right.
Here in Ontariariaro we had transplanted urbanites moving in next to livestock farms and attempting to shut down said livestock farms for such reasons as flies, smells etc.
The solution was “right to farm” legistlation.
If the farm presexisted the rurbanites…”country air” continued.
“Certificates of compliance” to build new livestock facilities involve set-back from residences.
As far as this French block-party….
Allons enfants de la patria…Le jour de gloire est arrive.
ET, I understand your point, but things have long since moved beyond being nice in France. In just about every city you have no-go areas where the police refuse to go. In other words the average French citizen has been living now for several years under constant provocation from the Islamists in their midst without any protection from the French authorities.
Keep in mind that France is the only official secular society, by that I mean by law. That being the case the examples of selling and eating pork in Jewish neighbourhoods would also be acceptable, since the Jews have the option of not partaking of the food. Still as has been pointed out French Jews have not been a threat to public order and in fact have been on the receiving end of the Muslim violence. This is why French Jews have been leaving in larger and larger numbers.
The Muslims also would have the choice of ignoring the food and not partaking of it, but that is not acceptable to a group determined to impose their religion on the world. I am not anti Muslim but I am very anti the Muslims who are determined to impose their religion and religious laws on their host country. I would react in the same way were it Christians, Jews or atheists.
In a way, these protest tailgate picnics are politically perfect.
‘Government’ tries to shut them down (wink, wink) and in so doing stirs the sleeping masses to action. Once awakened to the monster in their midst, hopefully, the masses will demand the aforesaid Government ‘do something’. This should/will legitimize a major change in policy.
Perfect anniversary for a French surrender. 17 June 1940 the French government under Petain asked Germany for an armistice. Until the allies landed 6 June 1944, the resistance was tiny, probably less than 4,000 – Poles, Jews and communists.
The whole point of Muslims moving in to any and every neighbourhood is to congregate, dominate and confiscate (freedom). They will never assimilate, their whole purpose and life mission is to convert each and every one of us.
Islam means “submit”. They are there to get us to submit by either leading us or forcing us. That is why we need to push back and tell them that they have lost the battle even before it has started.
Pass the tube steaks and Beaujolais!!
Just a reminder: When muslims say PBUH after saying Mohammed’s name, what they REALLY mean is “Place Bacon Upon Him”.