I have fond memories of National Geographic magazine. As a child I would wait with growing anticipation to the arrival of the beige envelope containing the yellow magazine. I love to lose myself in the pages of wonderful stories and amazing photos.
That was then…
So, the Gnashional Geographic is now pro Arab, anti Jew publication. How are profits these days?
A lot of us used to wait for the mag as kids … we liked to see naked African women with very long unbelievable tits. I used marvel at the self mutilation photos of some primitives as well.
You know, lips that were stretched out to look like a whole pizza was being swallowed. Ears that were the sized of Dumbo the elephants ears. Necks like a giraffe. What’s funny is that now a lot white folks in the West are doing the same thing.
I think National Geo has always been run by Circus side show perverts and weirdos, so what’s new?
Remember the USS Libertyt
Not all is as it seems.
This will really P-O the natty geo pinheaded Pali loving dhimmis . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQnySDKL4ag&feature=player_embedded.
To say nothing of the rest of the Religion of Peace, mooslim wannbe terrorists and the entire middle east outside of the only democratic modern nation in the region – Israel.
Whenever I see a story that offers a one-sided argument where one side is painted as totally malevolent and guilty of victimizing the other side, I know I’m being exposed to yet another Marxist lie.
It seems the utopian left culture warriors have taken on a crusade to paint a portrait of victimhood of the wretched, belligerent peoples who live on Israel’s borders. Wretched they are, but is it Israel’s fault that Israel thrives through hard work and enterprise while its neighbors impoverish their citizens feeding a militant agenda to annihilate Israel at all costs?
If Jordan’s citizens are wretched it is because their government is comfortable with that situation. Maybe if Jordan spent more on wells and irrigation than on tanks and jet fighters their people wouldn’t be portrayed as wretched by Marxist activists looking for a victim group to exploit.
It is an error, by both the National Geographic and the response (CIC) to politicize an ecological reality. It isn’t simply ‘good’ versus ‘bad’ nations/people.
The facts are that the ecology of the area, whether inhabited by Israeli or Palestinian, is water-fragile. Before-Israel, so to speak, the economy that existed there was a ‘dry horticulture’, which produces sustenance only for a small local population. Israelis brought with them an industrial agriculture, and one from Western Europe’s ‘rainfall agriculture’. This produces surplus, for a market economy.
Then, you had the demographic change, with an explosion of population in Israel and thus an expanding requirement for water.
Think about it. Your basic ecological reality is a minimal amount of water. The population living there for centuries had adjusted to this reality by: low population; sustenance economy of dry (not irrigated) horticulture. Then…what happens?
A switch in agricultural practices from local dry sustenance horticulture to market surplus irrigated agriculture. This requires a LOT of water. A huge population explosion; this requires a LOT of water.
The surplus mode of agriculture requires water and water in Europe is plentiful and no-work (that’s why it’s called ‘rainfall agriculture’) while in the ME, it comes from rivers and wells – a totally different system.
A report in 2008 outlined problems in both the settlements and the Palestinians. “Unfortunately, Auja’s situation is not unique. Earlier this month, the Israeli human rights organization B’tselem published a report detailing the acute water scarcity in the West Bank, and attributing it to both drought and to Israeli policy.
The report indicates that Israel maintains control over joint water resources, and forbids Palestinians from drilling into water sources without Israeli military approval. In addition to the drought conditions that are exacerbating water scarcity throughout the region, this situation makes it very difficult for Palestinians to meet their water needs.”
Here’s a well-researched analysis of water in the Middle East.
http://www.think-israel.org/sherman.water.html
In my view, the water situation in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is more serious and deep than the ideological, because the economy of a nation drives the ideology. Israel and its population base and economy requires that it, not Arab nations, control the water.
The problem is, of course, how does this control play out in the Palestinian territories? As I’ve said before, my view is that the two sides must ’embed’ with each other in a two-headed shared economy. There can’t be a separate Palestine (Iran would swallow it); there can’t be separate control of the water. It has to be a kind of two-headed nation with shared facilities. Can it be done? Anything can be done if there’s the will and the long view.
“Anything can be done if there’s the will and the long view.”
~ET
Unfortunately the Palestinian “long view” is to push Israel into the sea.
The National Geographic has degenerated into just another propaganda arm of the warmists and the anti-Israel crowd. It is now on the same level of believability as the Toronto Star…and that’s pretty low.
I still have Nat Geo’s 2007 global warming issue. It’s as nutty as a fruitcake and they now have ZERO credibility as any kind of a scientific organization. It is scary how deeply the neocommies have penetrated.
It’s as nutty as a fruitcake and they now have ZERO credibility as any kind of a scientific organization.
National Geographic November 1999 Chinese feathered dinosaur hoax:
http://www.icr.org/article/archaeoraptor-featured-dinosaur-from-national-geog/
The persistence of lies and half-truths are met with ten minutes of intellectual effort. People will investigate facts and expose the lies within the once fine magazine. National Geographic has done itself a great disservice.
ET:
That was an interesting post. Really. But I think “Oz” at 12:48PM raises a compelling point, which I happen to share. How would you respond to it?
It isn’t simply ‘good’ versus ‘bad’ nations/people.
The facts are that the ecology of the area, whether inhabited by Europeans or Blackfoot, is water-fragile. Before- Europeans, so to speak, the economy that existed there was “running buffalo over a cliff”, which produces sustenance only for a small local population. Europeans brought with them an industrial agriculture, one from Western Europe, where science and technology allowed them to produce a surplus, for a market economy.
Think about it. The population living there for centuries had adjusted to this reality by: low population; sustenance economy. So can you see what could happen?
rsp – I don’t agree with Oz’s point. It’s too dogmatic and ideological. It doesn’t deal with reality.
Ideas and beliefs can change – and the fact that many Palestinians are angry because of their view of loss of land and civic rights etc, is not ‘genetically entrenched’; it can be changed. Same with the Judaic belief that ‘all Arabs are unclean’ and the settler belief that ‘god gave us the land’.
I’m not a strong proponent of living only within ideology; I think that’s a rather empty mode; after all, someone has to provide the food while you discuss your ideas.
If Israel would endeavour to work with Palestinians – on the ground – not via their ‘government’ and work towards a shared economy with separate civic govts – I think the ideologies on both sides (those of the settlers and orthodox and those of the ‘aggrieved’)..would diminish to marginal ratios.
After all, there are Palestinians who work with Israelis now, and vice versa, and there are enough on both sides who want a fair resolution.
It is highly unpopular to be pro-Isreal on anything these days. I made a pro-Isreal comment on a video and I was immediately attacked and called a Sayanim – I had to look up the word.
Apparently it means a covert underground network of pro-Isreal (mostly Jews) who are supposedly infiltrating all levels of government and society around the world, holding employment positions in everything from a special needs worker right up to government positions. Apparently, they meet every couple of months and have phone conversations to exchange intelligence, and fine tune their plot to take over the world. And these socialists call us wing nuts and conspiracy theorists.
I see that the climate change movement is trying to highjack Greenland as evidence of global warming in that edition of NG. The fact that it was semi-tropical country 300 or so years ago seems to escape them.
ET, I wish I would have seen your last comment b4 I posted, I would have focused my comment on the topic of Palestinian and Israeli relations instead.
There is already a concerted effort to do just as you have mentioned. This task is being undertaken by youth sports, arts, and other organizations in an attempt to find common ground and understanding btwn the two groups.
The problem with this solution is it ignores the vast sums of money that is being poured into pro-Palestinian groups on the condition they remain actively anti-Israeli. The Palestinian economy is being controlled by these groups and the Palestinian people are literally dependent on them for their daily bread and water. Unless that power structure is removed, there will be no real progress.
ET:
“…a shared economy with separate civic govts…”
Three questions:
(1) How would that work? Does not a “civic government” set the rules for economic activity? Which of the “separate civic governments” would prevail in such an arrangement? This sounds about as functional as a horse with two heads. If the two separate governments can agree enough to manage the economy amicably, why have two separate governments to begin with?
(2) Where would such an economy flourish? I presume (perhaps incorrectly) that your answer includes the West Bank. If so, fine, but that would require free movement of goods and people throughout the territory. Do you think the Israelis can trust the Palestinians enough to permit such movement? When have the Palestinians ever demonstrated to the Israelis that a decisive number of them want that “fair resolution” of which you speak?
(3) How would “a shared economy with separate civic governments” be established if not via negotiation between the very governments that you want to bypass?
Ol Hoss: Are you serious?
Using the logic of the writer of the article you linked to would mean that this is also true: The reason why Canada and the US are friends is because the US attacked our soldiers on purpose knowing full well they were bombing Canadians.
Remember the US killed Canadian soldiers in an air attack in Afghanistan; the two countries working together on covering this up on purpose assault has obviously brought the two closer together. Nothing like having another country attack yours on purpose and kill your citizens to bond a friendship.
The reasoning presented in the article is no different than saying my best friends are the parents of the kids who pick on my kids and beat them up at school. This is because I’m embarrassed about it, so I pretend to be best friends with the bullies parents so that the other parents will not catch on that I did not protect my kids properly which is why they get teased and beat up in the first place.
With all due respect, I must say sorry ol Hoss, it just doesn’t make any sense and if it doesn’t make sense, it isn’t true IMO.
ET: God gave the land of Canaan to the nation of Israel when they conquered it under Joshua’s leadership. All of Israel is the property of the people of Israel. The Palestinians are the intruders who are determined to wipe Israel off the map. The solution to this dilemma is the removal of the Palestinians.
It’s as simple as that.
For me NG busted it many years past with an article on Yemen…..They went to great lengths to ascribe Yemen’s problems on the extent of civilian firearms….making the country ungovernable….
The Isreali’s built most of the first section of The National Water Carrier under Syrian shell-fire, while Syria endeavered to divert the ENTIRE Jordan river eastwards away from the Sea of Galilee…..not to use it but just to divert it.
ET
This is not a personal or ad hominim attack.
The tone of your posts puts you on the editorial board of NG.
As you correctly pointed out the arabs:
” the economy that existed there was a ‘dry horticulture’, which produces sustenance only for a small local population.” Which changed with the Isreal irrigation.
Then as in the past, you bleet about the arabs “centuries of occupation” of Palestine…..when here you have admitted the “palestinians” are really immigrants from Jordan and especially Eygpt attracted by the employment/food from the Isrealis.
Anyone can read TE Lawence accounts of the various denizens of the area in the early 20th century. A largely deserted area—desert.
In short, the “palestinians” are immigrants too with no priority claim to the land….because they simply could not feed themselves with their methods.
Ol Hoss
The dirty little secret is that for Eygptian naval units….use of the US flag was SOP. The Soviet supplied Eygptian missle boats which sank the IDF Elat with Soviet built Styx missiles were flying the US flag.
But then I suspect you believe the 6 day war was entirely, unprovocked Isreali Aggression, worship Obama and believe in Al Gore’s Weather.
Oh, no: not a USS Liberty nut. Get a grip. It was investigated time and again. The so-called motives are laughable and the results speak for themselves.
It’s called friendly fire. Alas, it happens a lot. Sometimes accidents really do happen. Grow up.
Conspiracy theories: history for stupid people who think they’re smart.
I am sure that the next issue of NG will examine the EPA creating a similar man-made drought in California. Riiiight!
I also used to look forward to each NG issue. They have always had a left-leaning, university perspective. In the past this was only mildly annoying not a fatal flaw. For a long time I ignored its ever increasing tilt to progressive politics. After the hit piece on the oilsands, I gave up. I still read it if it’s lying around but each issue seems worse than the one before. Now, I assume that the truth is the exact opposite of what is written in NG.
sasquatch – I didn’t say a word about the Palestinians being ‘immigrants’ from Jordan or Egypt. I don’t believe that they are; they were in that land base, practicing a dry horticulture for centuries.
It was the Israelis who brought in irrigation agriculture, an industrial type of agriculture. I don’t think they needed any Jordanian or Egyptian workers to do this.
no-one, yes, I very much agree; the Iranian and SA govts are both using Palestine as a means to divert their youth’s attention from the lack of freedom within Iran/SA. But they’ll have to move out of tribalism, enable a middle class..eventually.
rsp – yes, it’s difficult but not impossible. My point is that there is no way that a separate Palestine can exist. Two reasons for this. First, Israel must control the water aquifers of the W. Bank. It has no choice because water is a key, a vital, aspect of life in the Middle East. The second is that Iran and its imperialist agenda will snap up a free Palestine in a second and use it as a base against, not merely Israel, but against Lebanon, Jordan and Egypt.
However, it is, in my view, unacceptable for Palestinians to exist as they are now, a stateless people dependent on Israel for their very existence. Why I mean by a two-headed state is that their economy must be ’embedded’ via treaties, constitutions, etc..that they function essentially as ONE economy.
By two govts, I mean that each would deal with certain issues separately; namely, education, health, religion..i.e., the societal functions of a state.
Essentially, it would be a federation of two states or provinces.
The West Bank and Gaza would be part of this whole economic system. I can see a company having separate factories or greenhouses etc, in each ‘state’ – each working together. Yes, Palestinians and Israelis CAN work together and they do so now.
Each side has centuries of mistrust and hostility – after all, the Judaic Halakhah and the Islamic hadiths both deride ‘the other’, both say that you can ‘never trust a Jew/Arab’; that it’s OK to lie to the other and so on. The two sets of laws and customs are heavily identical, and after all, they both have their origins in ancient tribal interactions and customs in the area.
BUT – it can be done and both have worked together. Ideology is man-made and can be changed by men.
And you begin the advocacy of this shared govt at the grassroots..rather like the Tea Parties.
Herman – sorry, I don’t buy any of this ‘god gave us the land’. Just as I don’t buy the Islamist dogma of ‘god insists that we kill all infidels’ and ‘god rejects democracy because it ought to be god’s law not human law’.
I’m an atheist. It isn’t ‘god’ who is talking this way; it’s human beings.
“rsp – I don’t agree with Oz’s point. It’s too dogmatic and ideological. It doesn’t deal with reality.”
~ET
The reality is that the Palestinians believe, ideologically from the Koran, that they must drive the Jews, Israel, into the sea.
You, ET, are the one ignoring reality.
I’m just the messenger.
The Israelis and the Palestinians will have a viable working mutually sustainable relationship when the Palestinians stop trying to kill the Israelis.
Right now, you ignore the reality that beginning such a relationship without a change of heart on the part of the Palestinians would be the same as Israel clutching a viper to it’s bosom.
The Palestinians have to stop being vipers first.
“We will have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us”
~Golda Meir
No, Oz – the change of heart is not going to come ‘just because’; that’s unrealistic. It will only come about from the experience of reality.
At the moment, ideologically, both sides have long traditions of adversarial hatred and rejection of the other. I suggest you read the Judaic halakhah and the Islamic hadiths to see how similar their views are of each other. You seem to be aware of only one side and are also ignoring the reality of the settlers and their ideology and the orthodox and their dogma.
Economically, one side is suppressed by the other. Change this, and the superstructure of beliefs will also change. After all, men made those beliefs and men will and can change them.
Golda Meir is wrong; after all, Islamist love can include that child’s martydom, if it rests within a dogmatic belief that life is without value and only ‘heaven and death’ are of value.
Peace will come when the dogma and ideology on both sides – and it does exist on both sides – is rejected in favour of realism – an economic and political realism that empowers ordinary people.
Kathy Shaidle
Conspiracy theories: history for stupid people who think they’re smart.
REmember that when you attend your Bat Ye’or event.
In my “bucket” list a point was to have a photograph good enough to be published in Nat Geo but since the eco-greenies hijacked the editorial agenda, that dream has long since shattered. I’d subscribed for over 20 years but when they turned left they lost me. I’ve only read a few of the Canadian Geo but I think they have turned politico too.
Nat Geo was a “picture book of the world” in glorious colour for postwar school libraries and the US middle class home, run by a bunch of rich old conservative farts. Today it is leftist source material and is now welcome in all public school classrooms to propagate the faith.
ET:
“At the moment, ideologically, both sides have long traditions of adversarial hatred and rejection of the other.”
Question: Do you believe that the “hatred” is equally intense on both sides and that the campaign to vilify the other side is equally widespread? My impression is that the Palestinians systematically indoctrinate their children in hatred of Jews, whereas no corresponding program exists in Israel. Am I misinformed? I also believe a robust peace movement has existed in Israel for many years and that a similar movement has not existed among the Palestinians, at least not to the same degree. Am I mistaken?
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How ironic these words are;
“(I do recall some mockery erupting when this incident occurred in March. According to our leftie friends, merely suggesting that the Norks might be responsible for an unprovoked attack on the South was, you know – irresponsible.)”
ET, in Hirsi Ali’s book “Infidel” where she was living in Kenya as young children and being taught by their muslim elders to hate the Jew. Ms. Ali wrote that no one in her familiy or friends had ever seen a Jew but it was expected as muslims they had to hate them.
As this is entrenched in their theocracy and taught throughout the world where ever the muslims are, including as we see in York University and on Toronto streets, this is not just a local Palestinian problem but endemic to muslims.
The muslims are the scorpion to the Israeli frog.
rsp – I think you should read the halakhah and the hadiths for an understanding of the tribal views of each other, which are still held.
Yes, the hatred is as intense on both sides.
For modern views which reject any contact or relations with arabs and Palestinians – and I won’t here refer to the outside-Israeli views that ‘All Palestinians are evil animals’ – but I refer you to the internal views of the settlers and the orthodox. They are as doctrinaire as that of the Palestinians. you can google settlers and anti-Palestinian views.
You can also research that Israelis and Palestinians do work together, in water projects, agriculture, jobs, etc.
As for your attempt to equate the two societies, and searching for equivalence of teaching of anger/tolerance or peace/war, I think that is both unrealistic and even with a false ‘touch of righteousness’. Their two situations are hardly equivalent, with one side having political and economic authority and the other side lacking such rights. You can hardly expect behavioural equivalence.
But, just as there are Israeli ‘Peace Now’ organizations, there are Palestinian ‘Peace Now’ organizations.
http://www.themediaoasis.com/palestinianpeacenow.htm
No, Oz – the change of heart is not going to come ‘just because’; that’s unrealistic.
~ET
Conversely, and counter to history since forever(I know it’s an exaggeration), your position is that a change of heart is going to come about “just because” in spite of all the failed attempts at peace.
Or is your “just because” fueled by the belief that Islam is just going to “moderate” some day and expunge the teachings and example of their prophet Mohammad, or perhaps everyone will become enlightened atheists because they will be bought off by materialism, just like the London Tube bombers or Osama bin Laden were bought off?
(I could cite many examples of “well off” Jihadis who weren’t “bought off”)
Are you seriously thinking your position fits reality better than mine?
Is it your “conservative” position that poor people do violence and commit crimes just because they are materially poor, only writ large and acted out in the form of the Palestinian culture?
Seems like a socialist position to me but I’m probably mistaken that it is your position that some material wealth first is all it takes to trigger a change of heart and get them to stop killing Israelis or Jews.
So, the Israelis are supposed to take a viper to their bosom first, nurture that viper and then “PRESTO!” they stop being vipers and that is your reality position.
Gotcha.
Seems like a recipe for a lot of dead Jews.
Just as an aside, have you ever noticed that the Palestinian refugee camps are actually cities with paved streets, fountains, and multi-storied concrete apartments or that there are Arabs, both Muslim and Christian, who live in Israel but no Jews living in Palestinian controlled areas?
Seems like the emnity between these groups is not equal, but I’m probably too dogmatic, ideological, and unrealistic to see clearly like you do.
As to Salam al-Ann, a Chicago based group of Palestinian expats, perhaps you could link us to a group that is actually in the Middle East?
What influence do you imagine Salam al-Ann has on Middle Eastern dwelling Palestinians other than being a fund raising organization in America for Middle Eastern Palestinians and an influence on Americans in the U.S.?
Oz – Outside organizations as well as internal, have a lot of influence. I’m sure you know that Jewish groups in the US have a lot of influence both in Israel and the US – and Islamic groups in Iran sure have a lot of influence in Palestine!
So do internal groups.
http://www.peacengo.org/organizations.asp
Yes, Islam will have to modernize and the ME people will have to modernize, move out of a tribal infrastructure and enable a middle class with the political and economic power.
Islam as it is now, is first, a tribal ideology without the capacity for individualism (and thus, cannot enable capitalism and democracy); and second, its fascist component is a direct rejection of modernization and an attempt to revert to a pre-industrial mode. This cannot succeed; time doesn’t go backwards. However, the West HAS to reject multiculturalism and refuse Islamist demands for this backwards lifestyle and insist on modernization.
I’m unaware of any Palestinian controlled areas; kindly remember that Palestine is an occupied territory and has no authority over entrants, exits, borders, land and economic registration and etc, and certainly, there are no Palestinians in Israeli West Bank settlements! What’s your point?
Have you read the Halakhah and Hadiths? I guess not. Have you read about settler activities against Palestinians? I guess not.
You can, of course, continue to believe that ‘All Palestinians are evil and filled with hatred’ but that won’t solve the situation.
I’m not so naive as to claim that ‘poor people do violence because they are poor’; that’s nonsense. This Israeli-Palestinian situation isn’t about poverty per se, but about a lack of opportunity and freedom to live and develop.
I urge everyone here to read this article by Ray Hanania, the founder of Salam al-Ann which ET links to at 7:39.
ET perfectly echos Ray Hanania’s position.
http://www.mediamonitors.net/hanania21.html
Clearly, Ray Hanania has the opposite opinion of Western journalists that I and many here have when it comes to which direction MSM bias flows.
Ray Hanania would find the above article from the National Geographic refreshing.
An Article worth reading on the Israeli – Palestine issue entitled:
Ah, to be an ideologue!
“…One narrative has it that the Jewish world is divided in two – those for peace and those against it.
Those for peace, enlightened souls all, think it’s actually quite simple: The main obstacle today is posed by Israel and its blind supporters. If only that country weren’t so obsessed with security, history, faith and identity, and saw the light, peace would magically dawn.
But no, the narrative continues, the warmongers, neocons, and peace-resisters just can’t seem to get the Holocaust, Hamas, Hizbullah and Iran out of their minds. How unfortunate! And how retrograde to be obsessed with land in our post-modern world. Why do they keep raising the straw-man arguments about Israel’s narrow borders, the vulnerability of Israel’s one international airport, or Palestinian incitement?”…
http://cgis.jpost.com/Blogs/harris/entry/ah_to_be_an_ideologue
…but no Jews living in Palestinian controlled areas?
Huh? Why do people babble on about things they know nothing about?
There are about 187,000 of them.
Oh, no: not a USS Liberty nut. Get a grip. It was investigated time and again.
Again, people prattle on about that which they know nothing.
http://www.gtr5.com/faq-1.htm
There have been no Congressional investigations. One of the more prominent Israeli propagandists, AJ Cristol, created this allegation in the mold of the “Big Lie” technique of the 1930’s (“if you tell a big enough lie often enough, people will come to believe it”).
The Librarian of Congress, when asked about this allegation of purported Congressional investigations, formally replied:
“After checking numerous resources, including the CIS (Congressional Information Service) Indexes to Congressional Hearings (both published and unpublished), and the Public Documents Masterfile, I could find no evidence that the Congress ever held hearings or launched an investigation into the June 8, 1967 incident with the USS Liberty.”
This allegation is a lie, plain and simple. The chief proponent of this lie, A.J. Cristol, has repeatedly been asked to produce evidence of the truth of his allegation. He has refused to do so.
hoss, please stay on topic.
Sorry, I thought the topic was inaccuracies and downright lies concerning Israel. Lie in one place, lie in another.
I’ve only read a few of the Canadian Geo but I think they have turned politico too.
Posted by: Texas Canuck at May 23, 2010 5:57 PM
Absolutely. I cancelled my subscription a few years ago when, in one issue, I counted 46 references to global warming/climate change … before I hit the half-way mark. It seems as if a bit of hand-wringing on AGW/species decline/environmental degradation is necessary if you want your article in print – whether you’re writing about Hutterite colonies or hummingbirds.
Dave
[………The muslims are the scorpion to the Israeli frog.]
Indeed!
How many times has Isreal made concessions to the Palis and then been stung by suicide bombers and Kassim rockets.
ET
Personal beliefs are irrelevant when all these “so-called Palestinians” prior to 1967 held either Eygptian or Jordanian papers.
Herman
[…..the nation of Israel when they conquered it under Joshua’s leadership. All of Israel is the property of the people of Israel. The Palestinians are the intruders who are determined to wipe Israel off the map. The solution to this dilemma is the removal of the Palestinians.
It’s as simple as that.]
Palestinian archeology…=….the search and destruction of Hebrew antiquities.
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Dave
[………The muslims are the scorpion to the Israeli frog.]
Indeed!
How many times has Isreal made concessions to the Palis and then been stung by suicide bombers and Kassim rockets.
ET
Personal beliefs are irrelevant when all these “so-called Palestinians” prior to 1967 held either Eygptian or Jordanian papers.
Herman
[…..the nation of Israel when they conquered it under Joshua’s leadership. All of Israel is the property of the people of Israel. The Palestinians are the intruders who are determined to wipe Israel off the map. The solution to this dilemma is the removal of the Palestinians.
It’s as simple as that.]
Palestinian archeology…=….the search and destruction of Hebrew antiquities.
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When I finally stopped explaining away National Geographic left wing bent. It was like finding out your parents had sex.
I guess all those folks who thought the Press was Jewish controlled where wrong. When a Magazine like this who prides themselves on knowledge. Can’t google archaeologist, or historical sites, let alone the Bible. To know this is all Make believe by the Islamic brotherhood. Jordon is their home. They sure went their in the 19th century.
Palestine was the name the Romans gave that land after the second Roman Jewish war. Not for the inhabitants.
Speaking of Make Believe, the Star of David, as a symbol, was never used by ancient Israel. If archeologists find one being passed off as ancient, they know it’s just a hoax. The symbol of Judah is the Lion.