Pig barns, feed lots, GMO crops, fish farms … the solution’s right at your fingertips.
Just put down the fork. And leave it there.
Pig barns, feed lots, GMO crops, fish farms … the solution’s right at your fingertips.
Just put down the fork. And leave it there.
I must go out and shop for a coffin. I’v been eating processed, non-organic food for so long now that I think I died 37 years ago, and no one told me!!!!
eastern paul try
http://bcwildshrimp.com/
Or is that not natural enough for you?
I tell you some days it feels like hardly anyone else knows what google is. 😉
tobacco smoke kills lice on chickens and also kill bed bugs, living in other places.
daninvan:
I would trust the multinationals over government any day. They have shareholders – they get punished for bad behavior almost in realtime.
I trust eco-nuts and “organic” lobbyists far less than i do the government.
No not really Dan, the problems you listed came to us -with- all that lovely government regulation in place.
It’s hugely amusing that the poison eaters are the ones most paranoid that someone will take away their right to kill themselves.
Guess what fools, us healthy folks don’t care what you do to yourselves.
You can lead a person to knowledge, but you can’t make them think.
Just typing from memory here but iirc salmon farming, unlike pig or chicken farming is something new. It was developed with plenty of public funds at UBC and then the BC NDP put a moratorium on any commercial developement while students from Chile and Scandanavia came to UBC and then went home to develope the competition. Iirc, BC took the moratorium off 10 or 15 years ago, after the salmon farms success was pretty much assured, as evidenced in Chile.
Anyways, I eat BC farmed salmon. It’s tastes good. Dependably so.
You can also get your meat the old-fashioned by, via firearm.
Yes, I don’t like the idea of a few corporations, who established lobby groups and bribed their way to the trough filled with taxpayer’s money, monopolizing food supply. The corn/feedlot mafia owns us, whether you like it, Kate, or not.
The quality of our food supply is deteriorating, if you only knew what this food is doing to you, people.
Yah, statistically speaking, we’re healthier and living longer. Left wing, anti-corporate, enviromentalists are against that.
You live longer on average mostly due to fewer wars being fought. Food has very little to contribute to that.
“Yet – people still like to eat.”
People ate before the wonderous new methods you advocate existed. The food wasn’t exposed to repeated applications of chemical additives, and there was no need to operate fish farms.
There were a lot more farmers too. You don’t like farmers either? Your prefer coroporate welfare bums and investment bankers? Short traders maybe?
Nothing quite like getting up in the morning to make you living off of who is losing money today. Yup, a lot of value added content there.
Speaking of those nasty corporations, here’s one that ticked me off recently. KFC
You can only get the new “double down” chicken sandwich in the States. How unfair is that!
No bun, just some cheese, bacon and special sauce in between two piece of the Colonel’s chicken. Now that’s a sandwich! mmm…
Sorry, forgot to mention: fewer wars and better communication. These are two main contributors to longer average age. It was very difficult to survive a heart attack when there was no way to call ambulance within seconds.
Once again, Farmer Joe, you offer your thoughts with no statistical basis. Yes, the average age is still increasing, but not because of a decrease in disease incidence. Not all disease leads to increased mortality, and not all illness, previously considered terminal, is still so. Major advancements in treatment have greatly reduced the death toll.
take Cancer for instance:
Section #4 here…http://www.cancer.ca/canada-wide/about%20cancer/cancer%20statistics/~/media/CCS/Canada%20wide/Files%20List/English%20files%20heading/pdf%20not%20in%20publications%20section/Stats%202009E%20Cdn%20Cancer.ashx
Diabetes rate has doubled in Canada since 1994. That’s a direct link to food, Farmer Joe.
High Blood Pressure, gone from 14.4% to 16.4% between ’03 and ’08 ….that could be due to an aging population, but it could just as likely be due to increased use of hydrolized fats in prepared foods. The Government’s boffins are not sneering at that, they’ve basically banned trans fats.
Speaking of sneering, why is this assumption being made that people that are, or have become, more health conscious are automatically Leftwing econutbars? Because the corollary to that is that conservatives don’t give a crap about their health (or anybody else’s), have no interest in the small farmer/rancher or commercial fisherman, don’t support small independent business, and basically have closed minds to new information.
My G*d, I hope none of that is true of the vast majority of us!
Ol’Hoss:
Having worked in a beef slaughter plant, and yes I enjoy a feedlot finished sirloin -rare please- you are talking about distillers spent grains being fed hot and wet at the feedlot. This is the byproduct of wet milling corn primarily in North America. The 3 products are corn oil, starch, and spent grains. The starch can then be modified to corn syrup, thence to ethanol or a hi value sweetener. Todays volume is heavily to ethanol gov’t subsidy and all you know! Mainly now the spent grains are dried and formulated to a more complete ration – this eliminates the liver problem you refer to which I am aware of as an experimental feedlot estblished by a potable alchol distiller and abandoned.
Since when does eating “organic” or “natural” or “wild” make one more health conscious? There is no empirical evidence to suggest that it does. It’s political,its philosophical and that’s it. And who is it in the political/philosophical world that wants things over regulated and or banned? It’s by and large the left and those who are conservative in name only.
> Since when does eating “organic” or “natural” or “wild” make one more health conscious?
Since recently. The most important thing about organic is not how the animal/plant was grown. Most important is how the product was processed.
I get sick from regular milk, but can drink organic.
It’s hydrolysis which kills.
Let’s see now. 6.5 billion hungry souls on a plant, they need to eat three portions a day. That’s 19.0 billion portions of food, and we’re going to entrust the production of that food to a commune of hippies who get up an noon, smoke dope all afternoon, screw half the night away and read “Whole Earth” magazine.
Thank God for John Deere and Monsanto!
Sorry guys–that should read 6.5 hungry souls on a planet, not a plant.
Like shooting fish…
I said, “Because the corollary to that is that conservatives don’t give a crap about their health (or anybody else’s), have no interest in the small farmer/rancher or commercial fisherman, don’t support small independent business, and basically have closed minds to new information.
My G*d, I hope none of that is true of the vast majority of us!”
Joe Citizen replies, “…Thank God for John Deere and Monsanto! ”
Well let’s ask Percy Schmeiser about that.
“Percy, have you some thoughts about Monsanto?”
Percy; http://www.percyschmeiser.com/decisioncomments.htm
Oh, and for the record, it’s not pot smokin’ hippies that are threatening the World’s food chain…
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/05/02/weekinreview/02marsh.html?ref=europe
According to the court, the appeal court and the supreme court Percy Schmeiser is a lying thief. He intentionally grew comercially pure GM canola, which he had stolen.
If Percy’s your poster child you’ve already lost the argument. LOL
Farmer Joe;
well, I think you might well have crossed the libel line there, ol’ son.
You really do need to check your facts.
http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/March2008/19/c5736.html
Actually, you may have libeled the SCOC as well!
And yes, I DO support small independent farmers/ranchers over monolithic multinational conglomerates, and proud of it.
First Court Case
http://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/en/2001/2001fct256/2001fct256.html
Appeal Court Case
http://decisions.fca-caf.gc.ca/en/2002/2002fca309/2002fca309.html
Supreme Court Case
http://scc.lexum.umontreal.ca/en/2004/2004scc34/2004scc34.html
From the supreme court case
“This case concerns a large scale, commercial farming operation that grew canola containing a patented cell and gene without obtaining licence or permission. The main issue is whether it thereby breached the Patent Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-4. We believe that it did.”
“Schmeiser never purchased Roundup Ready Canola nor did he obtain a licence to plant it. Yet, in 1998, tests revealed that 95 to 98 percent of his 1,000 acres of canola crop was made up of Roundup Ready plants.”
“The Patent Act confers on the patent owner “the exclusive right, privilege and liberty of making, constructing and using the invention and selling it to others to be used”
At the end of all of this the courts ordered 1) an injunction against Mr. Schmeiser and employees of Schmeiser Enterprises that prohibits planting, growing, cultivating, harvesting, selling, marketing or distributing the patented technology in the future; (2) an order to deliver to Monsanto any seed in Mr. Schmeiser’s possession known to contain the Roundup Ready gene.
But the bottom line is that Schmeiser was convicted of growing RR canola without permission or a license. By doing so he violated monsanto’s patent rights. All three courts agreed, he knew what he was doing and he did it on purpose. In plain English, he STOLE SOMEONE ELSES PROPERTY. He is therefore a thief. That’s not libel, that’s the unvarnished truth.
“And yes, I DO support small independent farmers/ranchers over monolithic multinational conglomerates, and proud of it.”
Translation: you support identity politics and class warfare.
Personally I’m a fan of Liberty.
FarmerJoe:
Re: Percy Schmeiser:
A friend of mine wrote a letter to the editor of the Western Producer that would have exposed the falsehood surrounding this case. Needless to say, they never published the letter. The guy is as phony as a three dollar bill!!
“Nearly 1,000 people crowded Government Street yesterday in the culmination of a 500-kilometre walk to protest fish farms — which they say are killing B.C.’s wild salmon.”
Well I’m relieved to learn that it’s not Native “fishers” who are responsible.
I mean, it would be pretty hard to round up some protestors to march against that, anyways, wouldn’t it?