Now is the time at SDA when we juxtapose!
Fidel Castro…
“We consider health reform to have been an important battle and a success of his (Obama’s) government…”
Now is the time at SDA when we juxtapose!
Fidel Castro…
“We consider health reform to have been an important battle and a success of his (Obama’s) government…”
I have it on good authority from several people who have never set foot in a Cuban hospital that Cuba has one of the best healthcare systems on earth. Those pictures must be photoshopped.
The reason that some locals think the hospitals are nice, is that they’re nicer than the living conditions of typical Cubans.
In USSR segregation was a bit different: Moscow had it all, and the regions had none of it.
People in the countryside above 50 looked really scrary: they had 1-2 teeth, the rest were pulled for lack of filling materials and cost of dentistry. Majority of women had wombs removed – not due to cancer, but due to infections after multiple abortions, for lack of reliable contraceptives.
I knew it when I was a kid, but it did not settle in until much later: people were dying out and no one cared. This is what future holds for America and Canada, because Canadian economy is based on American.
But of course violence is not the answer, no, it’s not, no way. We are peaceful people and will peacefully bitch and moan when no one hears.
How do you spell “supervised neglect”?
Cheers
Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
Aaron….is correct.
The combat performance of the USSR and it’s collapse during the 80’s was symptomatic of this.
When WW2 arrived the domographics had been harmed but Russia still had a mass of reasonably healthy military aged males…..Later the Afghanistan effort failed largely because the Russians simply could not use/trust the manpower of their “stans” and lacked sufficient ethnic Russians to carry the ball.
Of course, leftists will claim with a straight face that these photos are manufactured/altered.
Uhmmm I think the Hospital Pictures are from the Fraser Valley Health Authority in BC.
That was joke.
and that was an explanation for my more Liberal Friends who have no sense of humour at all.
Cuba; hell. Are you sure these photos were not take in one of our BC hospitals?
I just completed a stint in Surrey Memorial. 9 1/2 days on an old gurney with damaged mattress pad. I was in emergency overflow with up to 16 other patients. Even the visitor waiting room was used for gurneys. There was a towel laying on the floor at the edge of the next gurney to mine. My visiting partner decided to just leave it there to see how long it took to disappear. It was not moved for the remainder of my stay (last 4 days).
The staff was truly UN. Almost no Caucasians?
However, under the circumstances, I cannot complain about the care given.
Obozocare, government controlled health care for bozos, Castro and his commie paradise, and the UN WHO, who let 35 million African children under the age of 5 die before rescinding the ridiculous ban on DDT in 2006.
Until majority of population will realize, that their health depends on:
1) food they eat
2) water they drink
3) healthy lifestyle
any amount of funding for healthcare will be wasted.
It is impossible to maintain good health while consuming glutamic and aspartic acids and drinking fluorided water.
But you like it that way and I am wasting bandwidth.
My kids have been told, by the Social Studies teachers here in Calgary that the health care given in Cuba is the best in the world.
When they speak up regarding this lie, and point to the truth, the other students that need passing social studies grades, always agree with the teachers so as to pad that extra few percent onto their GPA. Ben said his teacher truly hates him, although he considers this a win for the “home team”, and his esteem is bullet proof.
They’ve started telling me how the teachers reward their adoration, I sometimes wonder if the teachers know the kids think they’re collectivist behavior is full of shit, that when they fall on ice laden sidewalks, all the kids give a chuckle, even the good ones.
The hospital I visited in Venezuela appears the same as these fotos at George’s site, http://www.therealcuba.com … without the blood on the floor… but with all the broken windows and neglect. Never enough medicine, no evidence of real cleaning. (The floors had been swept, I guess that was a plus). I didn’t see any sheets on the plastic mattress’, only those brought by the families of clients. heh, I said “clients”. Food is also brought into the hospitals by the families.
People who think the system is perfect are welcome to take part in it.
And it can only get worse for Cuba.
Because all the socialized-medicine countries tacitly depend on the US for most medical and pharmaceutical research.
That’s an area that’s going to start drawing down now too.
“It perhaps was not the endorsement President Barack Obama and the Democrats in Congress were looking for.”
I disagree. It’s exactly the endorsement the Democrats and Obama were hoping for.
This cannot be Cuba. I just accessed a WHO study ranking countries by effective health outcomes.
Canada was 31, US about 37, and Cuba was 3 spots behind. All those people that go to the Mayo clinic for treatment, could head for Cuba instead? Apparently this could be true according to The UN and many of socialist supporters.
Oh look it’s Aaron the nutrition police.
How did that fluoride get in the water smart guy?
All communist countries have a few model facilities that are basically for showing to gullible foreigners and for the use of their elites; otherwise, the rank and file get far worse treatment that the gullible foreigners never see.
We’ve improved on that in Canada by having mediocre facilities for everyone, and we don’t care who looks at them.
The people who praise our health care system are invariably those who go to the U.S. or elsewhere when they need urgent care in real time.
How can it work when the majority of healthcare users have contributed nothing or next to nothing to the system??? I got a crazy idea…Stop giveing free rides to new arrivals…And say goodbye to pensions too…
From Lifesite News:
By Gudrun Schultz
HAVANA, Cuba, June 2, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Abortion is frequently used as method of birth control in Cuba, and many women say they actually prefer to abort an unwanted child than to use some other method of birth control, a new study reports.
Micheal Moore and Dr. Mengele Suzuki said this place was a paradise. who can argue with credentials like that.
the leaders in healthcare and in sustainable agriculture. looks like with the floor in the first picture the nightsoil, ie $hit , hasnt been moved to the fields yet.
Oh for cripes sakes you ideological hack, this isn’t going to make America’s hospitals look like Cuba’s.
Yes, the Dems are trying to sell this as the best thing ever and the right is trying to say the universe is about to implode. The reality is that it’s not all bad, and not all good. But the health care system in America needed changes, and that’s something almost everyone agreed on. The free market is beneficial in a lot of ways, but it is not infallible or perfect. Dare they try and create an effective government/private hybrid in the US. Jesus! Cut out the sensationalism. There’s enough of it on all sides. Lot’s of health care systems in other countries integrate private elements with government initiatives, with better result than the US.
Oh and since you use the Cuban example, do note that they have a higher life expectancy than Americans. Yeah, some really crummy hospitals exist there, no disputing that, yet they must be doing a few things right. It’s not all black and white.
We’ve been told that Cuba has a great health care system, but which I know for a fact isn’t remotely true because I’ve brought in bags of donated medical supplies to Cubans in great need.
Yet “do note that they have a higher life expectancy than Americans”
And we know that, how exactly? Because we’ve been told? By whom?
A Sask. tourist, on a tour to Cuba 2 years ago, was missed at the dinner party/as was his wife. 2 days later we found he had a major GI event, and had an emergency operation.
The wife said she was very concerned about the competence of the hospital as the guerny taking her husband to the OR had to run over several sections of gravel in the hall ways, as the floor had been dug up at several intervals (for whatever reasons) but there was no concrete available to fis the problem.
She found the Doctors very competent! Hospitals dearly lacking.
Operation successful!
@”Yet “do note that they have a higher life expectancy than Americans”
And we know that, how exactly? Because we’ve been told? By whom?
Posted by: JDN at March 25, 2010 7:33 PM”
The CIA world factbook for one, but I get where you’re going with this. You’re disputing the credibility of the number. As an anecdotal observation look at the patients in most of the photos showing the deplorable hospital conditions. Most of them look like they’re pushing 85/90 years old.
It was said earlier in the comments by Aaron. Health isn’t so much about taking care of illness. It’s preventing it with quality drinking water and quality food. In regard to the latter, Cubans have been without many of chemicals and technology required to make the types of foods we eat, thanks in part to the embargo, so perhaps that could be partially to credit for their longer years. Also, I highly doubt they have the obesity problem that America has. Hard to get fat on government rations and no fastfood access.
“…they must be doing a few things right.”
Enron failed because the Cuban government wasn’t in charge of fudging the numbers. Noted.
Nine years ago, I spent a couple of weeks just wandering around Cuba (no tourist destinations and no “minder”) I didn’t visit any hospitals but, in a provincial city, I hired an MD on his days off to drive me around in his ancient and decrepit Lada. He admitted that the 100 bucks I gave him for 3 days car and driver was equivalent to his salary for four months.
I visited a few drugstores in search of band-aids
(no luck) and observed that there was almost no stock of anything in any of them. I would have liked to talk to a pharmacist but found only bored clerks swatting flies and putting in time.
Not a condemnation of the entire system but certainly illustrative of the general situation.
BTW (and this is off topic) I saw a few children who were obviously suffering from malnutrition in the workers’ paradise. And yes, I know malnutrition when I see it, having spent several years working in the third world.
Hey everybody, don’t forget the Cuban BOOK BURNING!
http://www.4freadom.org/CubanBookBurning.html
Viva la Castro, you Trudeaupian party animal, you.
Jeremy:
From the CIA Factbook (your “source”), Life Expectancy:
US: 78.11
Cuba: 77.45
Those life expectancy figures might swing in Cuba’s favour if they didn’t include all the political prisoners murdered by the Cuban government …
I have heard that having a live egg laying chicken in your room is very good therapy.
Hey, that old chap on the cot – Danny Williams in 2020?