Now is the time at SDA when we juxtapose!
Professional journalist;
About 300 people assembled in the snow at the University of Winnipeg to show their displeasure with the federal government’s decision to take an extended holiday break.
Citizen photojournalist;
(photo credit to reader “Maurice”, in Winnipeg.)
Largs @ 9:41 ROTFLMAO!!
I’ve been scanning the news reports and it looks like the turnout is rather pathetic. A whopping 300 in the City of Montreal, pop. 1.6 million, for example. One thing that is common in most of the reports is the presence of NDP bigwigs.
Saskatoon had around 400 show up and it’s a good thing they weren’t protesting global warming since there was a blizzard blowing through.
Another report said there were 300 in Calgary (pop. 1 mil) – “a fraction of the estimated 3,000 people who gathered at Olympic Plaza 13 months ago to rally against a Liberal-led opposition coalition’s bid to overtake the Conservative government”.
And on and on.
http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20100123/prorogue_protest_100123/20100123/?hub=TorontoNewHome
Love this headline from CTV News… “More than 5,000 in T.O. protest proroguing Parliament”
Is this the same Toronto that refused to punish the Liberal Party for Adscam? CTV doesn’t say.
Is this the same Toronto that in the last election delivered 20 of 22 seats (91%) to the Liberals while in the RoC the party took its worst beating at the polls in more than a 100 years, electing only 57 in the remaining 286 ridings (19%)? CTV doesn’t say.
And is this the same Toronto that will, in just over a week from today, reward the province’s corrupt Liberal gov’t by easily re-electing yet another Liberal in a provincial by-election to a gov’t mired in scandal, including one where a billion dollars has completely vanished? Again, CTV doesn’t say.
The news coverage here was sickening, with reporters at Yonge-Dundas Square depicting the protesters as people who have suddenly turned against the Conservatives. Prorogation as the issue was a complete red herring. This protest was about anything but democracy and accountability.
“Penner said Ottawa is ducking questions about detainee mistreatment in Afghanistan and Canada’s crumbling reputation regarding climate change.”
Seriously, what can you do with this kind of Koolaid-drinking gullibility but throw hard-packed smowballs at it in the hope one will connect and the impact jar the political zombie back into civil rationality.
The hope is if one can shame or embarrass a political idiot, then perhaps you can help them recover what little self respect they have and spur them into doing their duty as a citizen in rejecting manipulative partisan agitprop. Anyone who thinks that the people are in peril when government goes on vacation is probably dilusionally naive or not paying taxes or is some form of snivelling big-government communist on the public payrolls.
For the rest of the productive class, who government must rob to feed its excesses, any day government does not sit is a day our property and freedom are not in danger.
Oh, and in Vancouver they offered perogies to entice them out. Hahahaha!!
Too bad their moms and dads weren’t into coaitus interruptus…
Nice of the “coaition” to wrap themselves up so nicely in a package. Egad, we’ve closed down democracy for 38 days. Signatores Ignatieff and Layton were prepared to shut down parliament and government for 6 months to get up to speed for their minority coalition.
What a joke T et al. Bluster and bluff, pure and simple.
Bring it on anytime you want. Ignatieff has no policies, Layton is a spewing anti-corporatist.
Keep singing to your choir. Good luck with the fantasy of Liberal/NDP combo gaining over 30 seats from the Conservatives.
I hope the Liberals go ahead in the polls; then they will go for it. Sounds good to me.
The point of my earlier comment was not to pick on the Conservatives, rather that the antiprorogation ‘uprising’ was obviously orchestrated by the ‘other’ guys. I wanted to raise that point without showing a Conservative bias – though I wouldn’t be following this blog if I had strong left leaning, big government views.
Actually I have a low opinion of all politicians, finding them somewhat self serving and elitist though they work hard to disguise those urges. It’s one of the failings of politics, that it needs (and breeds) politicians.
Specifically to a couple of failings of the Conservatives from my perspective: A major party platform of the Conservatives to defeat the Liberals and finally regain (minority) power a few years ago was to oppose the Liberals on stopping Income Trusts. These were a major retirement vehicle for seniors and this was a big issue and likely significant in the Conservative win. A few monthes later they did a complete reverse and killed Trusts (and trust!). As regards Iraq, it was Cretien who kept Canada out of Iraq, the Conservatives pushed hard to send our young people there (to die). I personally didn’t/don’t support the sending of our troops to Iraq and so hold that stance against the Conservatives. Afghanistan is a very different situation (though the result seems rather similar) and I reluctantly supported sending our people there and hope we can yet make it work although that doesn’t seem too likely.
From WikipediaIt is worth noting that prorogation has been used with varying frequencies for the past 60 years. The 19th Canadian Parliament had 7 sessions, the 24th Canadian Parliament alternated between an average 6 months in session and 6 months prorogued, while World War Two’s 19th Canadian Parliament practiced 12 month sessions, with prorogation every January. Liberal Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau prorogued Parliament every twelve months during the 30th Canadian Parliament.
…the estimated 3,000 people who gathered at Olympic Plaza 13 months ago to rally against a Liberal-led opposition coalition’s bid to overtake the Conservative government”.
I was there for that one. I’m not a joiner/protester but that “coalition” thing really pissed me off.
I know I got up late, but WHAT PHOTO?
I think that the missing L is on her forehead…
I have to give the MSM some credit. After a month of relentless focus on a procedural issue that has zero impact on our day to day lives, they have managed to get 290,000 to sign a Facebook page and approx 10,000 (4%) to physically show up at protests. All behold the power of the MSM. Too bad they will never direct any of that energy into researching the internal workings of the IPCC.
The Opposition Parties are not doing the people’s business they are simply showing up and having mud and spit ball fights in every session. They are not working for Canadians by dragging out the Dead Detainee Horse once again and its festering rotten carcass of a political attack is doing nothing but distracting from getting things done.
People on the left keep bringing up the change in the Senate about electing senators. That requires a constitutional change and there is not the support in the Liberal and NDP camp for this. With vacant seats the PM appointed Senators as every PM before him has, you cannot ignore the constitution and you cannot leave vacant seats indefinitely even if you want to change how the senators are selected. So drop that one too.
Taking a break form spending the people’s money is never a bad thing during a recovery from recession. This is the tipping point in the recovery, either we are going to see some growth organically (not via Government Spending) or we are going to stagnate and plod along. If the economy does not have to worry about more stupid spending plans forced by Liberals and NDP (the Bloc always has its hand out so lets ignore that) to pass legislation and get regular business done.
This was the right thing at the right time, let the Q1 play out see where the economy is and act accordingly. Quite Smart Actually.
The numbers mustered by the left are paltry and even then probably inflated as the msm always does for this crowd.
“Penner said Ottawa is ducking questions about detainee mistreatment in Afghanistan and Canada’s crumbling reputation regarding climate change.”
What’s that old expression about being “stuck on stupid”?
The IPCC’s confessions, Hadley CRU,NASA, all seem to have occurred under this person’s radar, if he even has one.
And the “detainee” (how I hate that term)issue, has already boiled down to the assertions of ONE captured terrorist.
Instead of wasting time marching around, I suggest the activists educate them selves to the new reality; you’ve been hoodwinked repeatedly over AGW, and you’re being fooled again by the LPC/NDP coalition who want you to believe the 106th proroguing of Parliament is important in any way.
In less kind times, we used to call people like you “suckers” and averred there was one born every minute. I think the birth rate for suckers has increased greatly over the last 30 years.
I think most of canada shares my view that these “spontaneous protests” are as reliable a guage of public opinion as the “sponteous Protests” in North Korea and in the past throughout the communist bloc.
Liberals in Canada have the ‘Young Liberals’.
TG
[…..The membership is especially numerous in cities where there are federal offices.
Many of these young ‘members’ are related to someone in a comfy government paid job.
Their loyalty hinges more on the promise of secure future employment more than anything else.
Naturally it only takes an email to these young liberals to get them out demonstrating for anything Ignatieffe wants.]
Yep, I think you have a valid observation there.
Damn, I’m late but reading that Felt-tip-peno, I was thinking:
prorogation = coitus interruptus.
From this article in the Globe And Mail
“A crowd of about 100 stood outside the legislature in Halifax”
“In Edmonton, about 250 people”
“In Montreal, hundreds also stood in a downtown public square”
It is safe to assume that numbers are worse in other cities in Canada or they would report them.
To think if anything these figures are inflated, what a dismal turnout for this big rally promoted by the partisan pundits in the media.
Since the CBC took this demonstration on as a personal crusade with incessant publicity for the last few weeks, and yesterday running on screen messages inviting people to attend the prorogation demonstrations in their communities, must just demonstrate once again, that obviously nobody watches the CBC, and we should maybe begin a Face Book protest, that Canadian taxpayers are wasting a billion dollars a year subsidizing this broadcasting abortion. One thing you can be sure, after what Canadians saw on TV and read, these same pundits will not be able to convince Canadians this was a huge success and demonstration – it was a dismal flop. Three party leaders Ignatieff. Layton and May, at the rally in Ottawa as headliners and entertainment couldn’t hold a thousand people there for the duration of the rally. Ignatieff will now have to go back to the drawing board, and follow through with his earlier promise in January “to investigate the conduct of our troops on the ground” in Afghanistan, who they have accused of being complicit in committing war crimes in Afghanistan because “they detained and handed over for torture a lot of innocent people”. What is more, all Ignatieff and the Liberals have found, to this point in time for substantiation of their accusations of abuse, is some Taliban detainee being hit with a shoe, but their slurs and condemnations of our military continue.
To end on something light, the CBC are reporting, would you believe, that in Calgary “a group of protesters gathered outside the prime minister’s constituency office” ( it was never clarified but it was reported that these were people actually waiting for a bus and not prorogation protesters) and the CBC didn’t mention, that in vast majority of the cities across Canada, nobody but nobody showed up.
what if they gave a coitus and nobody came ?
It would be neat if PMSH decides to add the “lost days” as the dippers call them on at the end of the next session – watch them yap if they are still sitting say in July or August 🙂
Oh Yeah there were ‘protests also slated for London, England, and several U.S. cities.” and how did that turn out after the lefty organizers told us this prorogation protest was sweeping internationally ( don’t wait for the partisan political pundits to tell you after they have hyped this fiasco for weeks) – results are below and now can we hear the lefties spin this as a huge success – actually it is a farce when analyzed – is this the best the combined efforts of the opposition parties can come up with.
“About 20 protesters, most expatriate Canadians now living in Britain, gathered across the street from Canada House – home of the Canadian High Commission in London – holding makeshift placards”
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/blogs/bureau-blog/london-prorogation-protest-skips-buckingham-heads-for-pub/article1442093/?cid=art-rail-blogolitics
John Begley: “what if they gave a coitus and nobody came?”
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WTC, Begley. Nobody gives a coitus.
Actually Peter B … it’s the best that the combined efforts of the opposition parties + the MSM + the Student activists + the various other parasites across the land…. can come up with.
jon @ 10:05 am, I didn’t know there was a by-election in a Toronto riding. Any chance we’ll see a repeat of “The Kennedy seat” versus “The People’s seat”?
Go to this site for Iceman’s story and pictures of Vancouver Rally
http://pragmatictory.blogspot.com/
I get so PO’d at the MSM who are spending lots of time reporting on this non event, sustaining it and making it into more than it actually is.
The Globe’s piece summarizing the legislation yesterday showed that some law and order stuff I’d like to see passed will have to be reintroduced (long gun registry in particular). It just shows how duplicitous this noise really is. From the tenor of the news reports we hear about this legislation, they should be really happy that it won’t get passed. Where are the news reports showing thousands of happy people becasuse these law and order (oppresive heartless right wing initiatives) bills aren’t going to pass.
Set You Free is a partisan fool! Where do you get off telling people to “get over” shit promised by politicians (although one shouldn’t believe politicians anyway).
This person may rely on income trust funds to live. However, you probably never considered that … you’re just too busy spouting off some dimwitted opinions.
While you may think Harper is all that .. not all of us share your enthusiasm nor your opinion. So maybe you should get over THAT.
I’m boogeying tonight: I KNEW the prorogation demonstrations would be a bust.
Now that it’s clear that the numbers were dismal (compared to the inflated and oh-so-easy-to-love — for the lib-leftards — Facebook numbers), even after the non-stop, wall-to-wall, free advertising from the media, it’s time to celebrate: white wine, goat’s cheese and crackers, roast beef and all the trimmings, red wine, Ella, Chet, Frankie, Linda Ronstadt … WHOO-HOO! HOT DOG! SUCK EGGS, you media whores.
Canada has a CBC problem…The last “real” Canadian heard on CBC was Peter Gzowski…. They are now all “Ear hole talkers” connected to the UN/EU ….
The CBC has no allegiance to Canada….
Who ever said journalists were honest? One of the most disrespected occupations in existence.
Who ever said journalists were honest? One of the most disrespected occupations in existence.
Why are the NDP so opposed to prorogues? They are delicious.
Alzlynne:
This partisan does not suffer fools.
Once the trust window was closed, would it not make sense to sell all the trusts and move onto another type of investment? Far as I recall, the trusts all bounced back close to their original value. I still have a couple of trust funds in my portfolio and they’re spinning out cash every month.
In other words, get over it and get on with your life.
If you choose to feel sorry for yourself, go ahead, nobody can stop you.
Try not to be a victim of life, like those losers carrying the picket signs.
Louise @ 4:39 pm – “I didn’t know there was a by-election in a Toronto riding. Any chance we’ll see a repeat of “The Kennedy seat” versus “The People’s seat”?
No chance of that happening, I’m afraid. Last September in a by-election in my riding the Liberals easily held on to the seat, this in spite of OLG and eHealth scandals fresh in the news and Sue Ann Levy (Toronto Sun columnist) running for the Conservatives, a no nonsense chick who writes excellent columns slamming the Liberals and socialist city gov’t for excessive taxation and overspending.
Since it was a by-election, there was no chance of the Conservatives taking power in the legislature even had Levy won the seat, making the excuse Torontonians so often use that they won’t vote Conservative federally because they’re afraid of PMSH getting a majority a complete crock.
The funny thing is that Torontonians voted twice for a socialist mayor who proceeded to destroy the city’s finances thanks to the City of Toronto Act, which gave the mayor powers to levy new taxes beyond property taxes. The provincial Liberal gov’t brought in this legislation and the leading candidate to replace Mao Miller (who is not running again) is George Smitherman — the former Liberal health minister who voted for the City of Toronto Act and who is responsible for the billion $$ eHealth scandal in the province. He’s miles ahead of the other candidates in the polls and will probably be elected mayor in the fall.
Funny how things come full circle. We learn nothing here. I may have to move out west soon.
Somebody via email to me is claiming:
Anybody heard anything like that?
The emailer also said, quite poignantly:
Well, I’ve got the name of the emailer, but pending further dialogue with him, I’ll keep it confidential, Suffice it to say it doesn’t ring a bell for me.
There was a study about respective Parties voters in the CBC the other day. Conservatives were less educated and older. The posters on the thread were patting themselves on the back. I tried to point out that one used to have to write Departmental exams to move to a University. Now they have ‘social progression’ which means a lot go in not knowing English, math and science and come out the same way. Womyn’s studies and social work make you more social and slows the onset of adulthood. Got a feeling they never ran it. CBC? Never check back.
Does anybody remember mass hysteria about the use of prorouguing by Trudeau (apparently 11 times) and Chretien (4 times)?
Mmm, “coaition”, would that have something to do with sex? mmm…mmm…mmm
Not me, Lev. I keep making that point, but the Leftists who’ve been chucking poopers at me all day long on my site, well, it goes in one ear and out the other, as if there’s nothing between them to absorb the information!
I really seem to have poked a big Leftist nerve with something sharp with this post, which links to this one:
http://thecanadiansentinel.blogspot.com/2010/01/hard-left-teabaggers-show-their-true.html
FYI about these two demonstrators (I agree, clearly illiterate and offensive):
They were asked by organisers to either remove the (Hitler) sign or remove themselves from the demonstration. Both were also wearing masks to conceal their identities, and did not participate in chants nor the march, and left when the media had dissipated.
The photo taken here is of them on the outskirts of the demonstration.
Thanks for the info, Banana.
Yes Lev:
AND, since Confederation,Parliament has been prorogued 105 times.Seems odd that there has never been an outcry before.
Ersatz outrage, plain and simple.
Over 60 anti-prorogue rallies were held nationally and internationally on Saturday.
Internationally? Really? Where, St. Johns?
@ Louise at January 24, 2010 4:35 PM
The running dog, er Liberal running in the Ontario by-election is Liberal carpetbagger Glen Murray.
Glen Murray is the former Mayor of Winnipeg, who left the Mayor’s position to run as a Liberal in the 2004 Federal Election.
To run as a so called star candidate in 2004, the Federal Government first had to appoint the incumbent Liberal MP John Harvard to become Manitoba’s Lieutenant Governor, opening the nomination for Murray.
Murray lost to CPC candidate Steven Fletcher, which made him the first quadriplegic MP.
Murray then wandered the wilderness till appointed to (wiki link below) “chair of a National Round Table on the Environment and Economy (NRTEE) in March 2005. In 2006, the Round Table released a report stating that Canada could reduce greenhouse gas emissions using existing technology.”
He floated some trial balloons to run to replace the outgoing Mayor of Toronto David Miller, but once the incumbent in Toronto Centre George Smitherman declared his candidacy, Murray got the consolation prize of the by-election nomination.
http://www.elections.on.ca/en-CA/CandidatesAndParties/Candidates.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen_Murray_(politician)
If you ask Winnipegers what they most remember about Murray, it is likely when his partner was stopped to be issued a traffic ticket in the midst of downtown Winnipeg.
Murray got out of the vehicle and proceed to rant and rage at the constable.
The corner the traffic violation occurred was Donald at Portage, a well known intersection that has been signed as no-right turn at any time for a period of time well longer than Murray’s political career.
A lefty Mayor complaining about making an illegal right turn, isn’t that ironic?
Or he may be remembered for this:
“19. The million-dollar toilet
Glen Murray’s dream of dining at a French bistro located on a $20-million footbridge overlooking the Red River quickly morphed into a debate over plumbing. Turns out it cost about $1 million to hook up plumbing to the plaza at Esplanade Riel, leading the Canadian Taxpayers Federation to dub the project as the one with “the million-dollar toilet.” Things only got worse when our Tom Brodbeck noted the phallic nature of the span, calling it the “dinkbridge.””
Source:
http://www.winnipegsun.com/news/manitoba/2009/12/08/12080416.html#/news/manitoba/2009/12/08/pf-12080196.html
Shannow, saw a couple interviewed yesterday on CBC via Skype from a tropical destination who were participating somehow in the anti-prorogue movememnt, though not sure how… I didn’t catch where it was. Maybe it was Cuba, very popular amongst Canadians of the anti-prorogue type, looking for a cheap vacation. They scolded PMSH for, what they called, was his affront to democracy. CBC interviewer thanked them at the end of the interview and went to commercial, where a Cuba tourism ad ran. Irony is completely lost on these people.
Another observation:
The poster “Harper = Hitler”, does that imply that Harper is a socialist?
Thanks Jon. Amazing how the CBC can dig things up when it wants to.
Speaking of Hitler, while a WEE bit off-topic (apologies), I’ve got…
BREAKING NEWS:
FaceBook Welcomes The Nazi Brotherhood!
http://thecanadiansentinel.blogspot.com/2010/01/horrible-shock-facebook-welcomes-nazi.html
It appears that this news has just gone viral…
Yep, the very same FaceBook that hosted the supposed 210,000 Leftist teabaggers…
Bizarre thing, also: The members of the “Nazi Brotherhood” don’t look like one expects Nazis to look. Not even the creator.
I’ve been beavering away today on numbers reported in the media. I found reports about numbers who participated in the protest for 19 places (thanks to some SDAers for some of it!). There is a list of 31 places which were supposed have organized an rally, but so far I’ve found nothing about any of them. All told, of the ones for which I did find numbers, none of them were able to marshal even one half of one percent of the local population, but even the numbers themselves seem to be very general estimates as most of them end in two zeros, except the ones that are less than 100 in which cases, one is only 50 and the other is 35.
So, less than one half of one percent of the cities’ populations, which doesn’t, of course, count the populations that are nowhere near those cities. BIG. HAIRY. DEAL!!
You might like to know that these two protesters had NOTHING to do with the anti-prorogation rally and only turned up to get some photos taken by a so called Progressive Conservative supporter. I can assure you that they are not students of the UoW and quickly ran off when approached and asked to remove their signs. Their faces were also obscured by masks…it wasn’t that cold.