Because there’s not one problem outlined in this report that can’t be solved by drawing a line through a map.
86 Replies to “Y2Kyoto: I Say “Bring It On””
I don’t see a need to lend credibility to the Global Warming crisis that the left has sold to the media through concrete action.
We can lick this one on our own by continuing to ask questions of the house of cards that are the climate models that underpins this movement.
Plus – what would become of the CFL?
The climate alarmists and their rent seeking friends have shot themselves in the foot big time. They have now complicated their case by introducing a highly politicized and inflammatory national unity issue into their little stealth game. All this with the impending collapse of COP15 (yay!).
Predict that the only federal politician to support this foolish plan is Gille Duceppe. Who will relish throwing some gasoline on the fire for his own reasons.
AB BC and SK lets pack our bags so scum bags LEACHES like Atlantic Jim will starve to death when there’s nothing to suck blood from.
I applaud TD bank and D.Drummond for sponsoring this. At this point no-one from Gov’t. has laid out the costs of their carbon reduction plan. Prentice almost had a bird when he heard the No.s.
At C311 (NDP bill to force Copenhagen) committee hearings, Pembina (one of the authors) stated to the question which country would make the most economic sacrifice to meet these numbers – Canada. Lets not forget – Jaccard eco consultant did the basic numbers on an econometric model – the holy holy of Greens and IPCC.
I guess the Scum Bags are using GNP to confuse the unsuspecting public (one crumb at a time)…Then they will switch to the GPI (genuine Progress Index) which will look fantastic to the dim witted… after all the NEW Global Governance has it’s own set of tools…
It’s important to follow the Money…The Environmentalist (upper level) are directly funded by a share of the Smoking taxes that the UN/California push for profit… The Envois PR firms, like Acorn, are all funded by taxpayers. It’s the way of Van Jones
The Cap & Trade in the USA is DOA. Canada should just wait for the dust to settle as the UN gangsters pushing AGW pop up as floaters in the East River.
JMHO
Louise: “Many years ago when there were a handful of crackpot Western separatist groups in our part of the country, they and their ideas struck me as being totally loopy, and they probably were.”
Me: “They’re still crackpots and they’re still totally loopy.”
Claude: “AB BC and SK lets [sic] pack our bags so scum bags [sic] LEACHES like Atlantic Jim will starve to death when there’s nothing to suck blood from.”
Me: “QED.”
JJM @ 11:53
You and I are on the same page. I didn’t mean that Canada should not attend the conference; just that we should mouth platitudes and sign NOTHING.
godinkneehill – I think that’s exactly what will happen
I think this is very timely. Canadians who work hard and pay their taxes will get a wake-up call on just what this foolishness will cost them and their families. TD is to be commended for doing what probably one one else has been able to do. This shows where it would hit us all, in the wallet.
I wonder if there is anyway to show how much the drop in GDP will increase un-employement? Also it would be useful to know and broadcast just what the tax hit would be.
Iffy needs to confirm whether he and his gang would support this. Same for all the Laytonites in this country.
We need an election on just this issue, Copenhagen or not Copenhagen, that is the question.
If you want an example re lip service – the US is happy to receive oil through the new pipeline – “The Alberta Clipper” – I don’t think the US government will hand wring too much about “dirty oil”. What the govt says publicly may be different. http://www.businessnorth.com/exclusives.asp?RID=3219
Jim
What do you care if most people in the west support separation?
Make that two lines.
But if you want more aggressive action,
Newfoundlanders make good soldiers.
I love the WS topic. First because it’s one of my personal issues, and second, because I take immense pleasure listening to those east of Manitoba calling us names and b*tching about even bringing up the topic. Bottom line, it drives the ego maniacs our east nuts knowing that on this one issue THEY HAVE NO SAY! Nobody cares what Ontario, the Atlantic or whom ever else says regardless of how badly they out number us in the House of Commons.
Here’s a litmus test: If Alberta, Saskatchewan and BC were determined to split; given the choice, which side would Manitoba pick?
Better yet, if Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba and BC were determined to split; given the choice, Which side would Ontario choose?
Louise
Don’t ask if we should separate, ask why should we stay?
Spike 1
Very good point. Coincidentally some provinces are demanding a guaranteed floor for transfer payments regardless of how well the payers are doing themselves. Hmmmm…
Louise
“Pray for an earthquake.”
That one made my day:)
Well it would be nice is some group finally sent a gigantic symbolic “shove it where the sun don’t shine”, to the (greedy) green loons, and the unprincipled politicians that actually bother playing their idiotic game.
Business owners don’t seem to want to stick together, they keep buying equipment with garbage enviro friendly unreliable diesels in them, It seems as long as the money keeps flowing who cares. The “green shift” is already costing everyone what the heck is going to happen if the likes of Copenhagen ever passes, or as was said Liberals gain power?
More power to any province that doesn’t like the taste in their mouth when they are fed BS.
The TD Bank just lost another long time customer!
Also with the West running in the red i can`t wait until PQ is cut off the western teat….they will squeal like stuck pigs! (maybe they will have to get rid of their 7.00 per day daycare that we are paying for).
Um, not to rain on your ontario bashing but the think tanks who produced this crap are out west, aren’t they? Not to mention fruit fly himself.
All the worst enviro nutters are from Vancouver. That’s in BC. On the far west coast. It’s nowhere near Ontario.
Just sayin…
Now continue your verbal assault on the place which had nothing to do with the story.
No worries on this crap. Harper won’t do squat with the exception of some talk to appease/fool the stupid. Nothing more.
He won’t sign a thing (liberals would sign then ignore it. Harper will not sign then ignore it.)
Problem is: There is no serious separation party here out west. At least not in BC. I wish there were, I would join in a heartbeat.
Indiana @ 4:03 I can think of no other compelling reason to stay other than withdrawal would entail a long, bitter brawl that would make lawyers very rich. I’m quite sure we could make it on our own very nicely and we’d likely rid ourselves of bleeding heart liberalism, which would be a nice bonus. All the reform we’ve been seeking but never got from the Libs would finally be doable. The imbalances created through confederation would no longer matter. We’d have a bit of a fight about where to put the capital city, but we could work that out. I’d have no problem with Calgary, even tho I come from a long line of sod-busting flatlanders. I think Calgary rocks.
Question : How much has it cost Alberta to be part of Canada?
Here is an incomplete list of payments I copies from the Alberta Separation Parties website.
1961-1992 Alberta paid $139 billion more in transfer payment than it received
1997-2003 Alberta paid $54.9 billion more in transfer payments than it received
2009 9.2 trillion to date and the year isn’t over yet.
Answer: It’s cost Albertans at least $203 billion in transfer payments alone since 1961 and that doesn’t include payments made from 2004-2008.
Miyra
Anecdotally I’ve yet to find anyone who doesn’t think it’s a good idea. This isn’t a left/right issue because when people I’ve spoken to from the left are made aware of the issues, they see it in there own best interest to remove the elephant from our backs.
Strategically, all of our leaders are in Ottawa trying to make Canada work despite central Canada’s continued attempts to run us out. There will be a day when Ontario and Quebec give western Canada the bird at the polls and put the natural governing party back in power, or a coalition of some sort. That will be when the fun starts.
jom
Question : How much has it cost Alberta to be part of Canada?
Here is an incomplete list of payments I copies from the Alberta Separation Parties website.
1961-1992 Alberta paid $139 billion more in transfer payment than it received
1997-2003 Alberta paid $54.9 billion more in transfer payments than it received
2009 9.2 trillion to date and the year isn’t over yet.
Answer: It’s cost Albertans at least $203 billion in transfer payments alone since 1961 and that doesn’t include payments made from 2004-2008.
Miyra
Anecdotally I’ve yet to find anyone who doesn’t think it’s a good idea. This isn’t a left/right issue because when people I’ve spoken to from the left are made aware of the issues, they see it in there own best interest to remove the elephant from our backs.
Strategically, all of our leaders are in Ottawa trying to make Canada work despite central Canada’s continued attempts to run us out. There will be a day when Ontario and Quebec give western Canada the bird at the polls and put the natural governing party back in power, or a coalition of some sort. That will be when the fun starts.
jom
oops, that’s jmo
sorry for the double
Jason:
Headquarters of the TD bank are where?
Study commissioned by whom?
Being a long, long, long time Western Separatist, since the little prick Pearson thrust that eastern Canadian flag in liberal colours down our throats long time, I love to hear talk of the West saying bye bye. Could you just imagine the education and health care systems we would have without, especially Quebec, sucking everyone dry? I must say I was upset at the fact in Alberta they called it the wild rose party and narrowed their scope to Alberta alone.
Being a long, long, long time Western Separatist, since the little prick Pearson thrust that eastern Canadian flag in liberal colours down our throats long time, I love to hear talk of the West saying bye bye. Could you just imagine the education and health care systems we would have without, especially Quebec, sucking everyone dry? I must say I was upset at the fact in Alberta they called it the wild rose party and narrowed their scope to Alberta alone.
Don’t ask if we should separate, ask why should we stay? ~ Indiana Homez
Wouldn’t want to give up the longest un-defended border in the world.
Goreacle Report: Please stop with the “scaremoneyring” willya.
‘S’bad ’nuff being called manbearswineAGW. And, can the LizardMay “left-wing greens” stuff and the Boob Mao Stlong Lae schtick.
…-
“When people overstate happenings that aren’t necessarily climate change-related, or set up as almost certainties things that are difficult to establish scientifically, it distracts from the science we do understand.
The danger is they can be accused of scaremongering.
Also, we can all become described as kind of left-wing greens.”
“Met Office Climate Official on Arctic Ice Forecasts: “The danger is they can be accused of scaremongering.”
30 10 2009
I’ve been very critical of statements made by Dr. Mark Serreze of the National Snow and Ice Data Center. It seems that I’m not the only one critical of his statements to the press. – Anthony
Excerpts from The Times, UK story:
Exaggerated claims undermine drive to cut emissions, scientists warn
Mark Henderson, Science Editor”
urlm.in/diol (WUWT?)
A comment* from WUWT? (see above).
As the commenter points out, the finger-pointing within the AGWarmist religion is starting.
Say goodnight, Lorne.
Goodnight Lorne.
…-
“*wws (16:17:17)
What’s pathetic is that all of the scaremongering (An Inconvenient Truth, anyone?) was just fine as long as it looked like it was driving a friendly political resolution.
But now that some of the brighter warmists are starting to realize that they’re just shooting themselves in the foot, it’s “hold on! We know that story was way overhyped, don’t blame us it was those other guys that did it!!!”
They’re just trying to figure out a way to regain the trust they forfeited with their lies. Too late.”
I a bit pressed for time right now and didn’t get a chance yet to read ALL the comments above, so hopefully I’m not ‘parroting’ other posters.
My Point:
Should the Copenhagen debacle pass (now or in the future); what EFFECT would it have on the forming of a new republic…(peaceful or otherwise is immaterial in this scenario)
Would it be deemed an illegal action?
If not then would the signed (Global Treaty) by
the original participating country
be considered binding upon the splinter republic ?
I’m sure most can see where I’m headed with this as regards Western seperation from mainland Canada should we find ourselves in that worst of all possible situations of (shudder) supporting Upper and Lower Canada in their never ending desire to be economically free to pursue their neopolitan ways.
It seems to me that like most things to do with so called ‘progressive thinking’,things become static within the so called status quo and so innovative thinking dries up.
I mean seriously…who can competently call the shots on climate and what I perceive from these jokers, is thinking akin to painting oneself into a corner.
However if your looking to be the FINAL world authority on everything,then this scam is the one.
Maz2: “S’bad ’nuff being called manbearswineAGW. And, can the LizardMay “left-wing greens” stuff and the Boob Mao Stlong Lae schtick.”
===========================
That must have taken some high falutin’ keyboard finger dexterity. I’m impressed.
for you western “””separateestass”””, up until about 1960 which way did the money flow?????
only ontario and BC were have provinces, sooooooo, alberta was a teet sucker till then
ontario has been a HAS province rite up to about 2 years ago,sooooooooo, you poor bassturds ain’t start to pay us back yet, so please start NOW
thanx in advance
glasnost, we could join the US and then “we” would have an even longer undefended border, as that would leave Upper Canada without the means to fight for it and with whiny Lower Canada still to contend with. Of course, we would encourage and maybe even pay all the lefties to flee to Canada for safe harbour. Think of the possibilities.
This is starting to sound like a cartoon with fisticuffs and dust flying all over the place.
Are the numbers in the report based upon us all magically getting “green jobs” in “green technology”? If so, methinks they are a wee bit optomistic…
Since joing Canuckistan in 1905, the Province of Alberta has recieved monies from the center of the universe one year,1908. The rest,it has given more then it recieved. Google it GYM.I don’t do work for socialists.
I don’t see a need to lend credibility to the Global Warming crisis that the left has sold to the media through concrete action.
We can lick this one on our own by continuing to ask questions of the house of cards that are the climate models that underpins this movement.
Plus – what would become of the CFL?
The climate alarmists and their rent seeking friends have shot themselves in the foot big time. They have now complicated their case by introducing a highly politicized and inflammatory national unity issue into their little stealth game. All this with the impending collapse of COP15 (yay!).
Predict that the only federal politician to support this foolish plan is Gille Duceppe. Who will relish throwing some gasoline on the fire for his own reasons.
AB BC and SK lets pack our bags so scum bags LEACHES like Atlantic Jim will starve to death when there’s nothing to suck blood from.
I applaud TD bank and D.Drummond for sponsoring this. At this point no-one from Gov’t. has laid out the costs of their carbon reduction plan. Prentice almost had a bird when he heard the No.s.
At C311 (NDP bill to force Copenhagen) committee hearings, Pembina (one of the authors) stated to the question which country would make the most economic sacrifice to meet these numbers – Canada. Lets not forget – Jaccard eco consultant did the basic numbers on an econometric model – the holy holy of Greens and IPCC.
I guess the Scum Bags are using GNP to confuse the unsuspecting public (one crumb at a time)…Then they will switch to the GPI (genuine Progress Index) which will look fantastic to the dim witted… after all the NEW Global Governance has it’s own set of tools…
It’s important to follow the Money…The Environmentalist (upper level) are directly funded by a share of the Smoking taxes that the UN/California push for profit… The Envois PR firms, like Acorn, are all funded by taxpayers. It’s the way of Van Jones
The Cap & Trade in the USA is DOA. Canada should just wait for the dust to settle as the UN gangsters pushing AGW pop up as floaters in the East River.
JMHO
Louise: “Many years ago when there were a handful of crackpot Western separatist groups in our part of the country, they and their ideas struck me as being totally loopy, and they probably were.”
Me: “They’re still crackpots and they’re still totally loopy.”
Claude: “AB BC and SK lets [sic] pack our bags so scum bags [sic] LEACHES like Atlantic Jim will starve to death when there’s nothing to suck blood from.”
Me: “QED.”
JJM @ 11:53
You and I are on the same page. I didn’t mean that Canada should not attend the conference; just that we should mouth platitudes and sign NOTHING.
godinkneehill – I think that’s exactly what will happen
I think this is very timely. Canadians who work hard and pay their taxes will get a wake-up call on just what this foolishness will cost them and their families. TD is to be commended for doing what probably one one else has been able to do. This shows where it would hit us all, in the wallet.
I wonder if there is anyway to show how much the drop in GDP will increase un-employement? Also it would be useful to know and broadcast just what the tax hit would be.
Iffy needs to confirm whether he and his gang would support this. Same for all the Laytonites in this country.
We need an election on just this issue, Copenhagen or not Copenhagen, that is the question.
If you want an example re lip service – the US is happy to receive oil through the new pipeline – “The Alberta Clipper” – I don’t think the US government will hand wring too much about “dirty oil”. What the govt says publicly may be different.
http://www.businessnorth.com/exclusives.asp?RID=3219
Jim
What do you care if most people in the west support separation?
Make that two lines.
But if you want more aggressive action,
Newfoundlanders make good soldiers.
I love the WS topic. First because it’s one of my personal issues, and second, because I take immense pleasure listening to those east of Manitoba calling us names and b*tching about even bringing up the topic. Bottom line, it drives the ego maniacs our east nuts knowing that on this one issue THEY HAVE NO SAY! Nobody cares what Ontario, the Atlantic or whom ever else says regardless of how badly they out number us in the House of Commons.
Here’s a litmus test: If Alberta, Saskatchewan and BC were determined to split; given the choice, which side would Manitoba pick?
Better yet, if Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba and BC were determined to split; given the choice, Which side would Ontario choose?
Louise
Don’t ask if we should separate, ask why should we stay?
Spike 1
Very good point. Coincidentally some provinces are demanding a guaranteed floor for transfer payments regardless of how well the payers are doing themselves. Hmmmm…
Louise
“Pray for an earthquake.”
That one made my day:)
Well it would be nice is some group finally sent a gigantic symbolic “shove it where the sun don’t shine”, to the (greedy) green loons, and the unprincipled politicians that actually bother playing their idiotic game.
Business owners don’t seem to want to stick together, they keep buying equipment with garbage enviro friendly unreliable diesels in them, It seems as long as the money keeps flowing who cares. The “green shift” is already costing everyone what the heck is going to happen if the likes of Copenhagen ever passes, or as was said Liberals gain power?
More power to any province that doesn’t like the taste in their mouth when they are fed BS.
The TD Bank just lost another long time customer!
Also with the West running in the red i can`t wait until PQ is cut off the western teat….they will squeal like stuck pigs! (maybe they will have to get rid of their 7.00 per day daycare that we are paying for).
Um, not to rain on your ontario bashing but the think tanks who produced this crap are out west, aren’t they? Not to mention fruit fly himself.
All the worst enviro nutters are from Vancouver. That’s in BC. On the far west coast. It’s nowhere near Ontario.
Just sayin…
Now continue your verbal assault on the place which had nothing to do with the story.
No worries on this crap. Harper won’t do squat with the exception of some talk to appease/fool the stupid. Nothing more.
He won’t sign a thing (liberals would sign then ignore it. Harper will not sign then ignore it.)
Problem is: There is no serious separation party here out west. At least not in BC. I wish there were, I would join in a heartbeat.
Indiana @ 4:03 I can think of no other compelling reason to stay other than withdrawal would entail a long, bitter brawl that would make lawyers very rich. I’m quite sure we could make it on our own very nicely and we’d likely rid ourselves of bleeding heart liberalism, which would be a nice bonus. All the reform we’ve been seeking but never got from the Libs would finally be doable. The imbalances created through confederation would no longer matter. We’d have a bit of a fight about where to put the capital city, but we could work that out. I’d have no problem with Calgary, even tho I come from a long line of sod-busting flatlanders. I think Calgary rocks.
Question : How much has it cost Alberta to be part of Canada?
Here is an incomplete list of payments I copies from the Alberta Separation Parties website.
1961-1992 Alberta paid $139 billion more in transfer payment than it received
1997-2003 Alberta paid $54.9 billion more in transfer payments than it received
2009 9.2 trillion to date and the year isn’t over yet.
Answer: It’s cost Albertans at least $203 billion in transfer payments alone since 1961 and that doesn’t include payments made from 2004-2008.
Miyra
Anecdotally I’ve yet to find anyone who doesn’t think it’s a good idea. This isn’t a left/right issue because when people I’ve spoken to from the left are made aware of the issues, they see it in there own best interest to remove the elephant from our backs.
Strategically, all of our leaders are in Ottawa trying to make Canada work despite central Canada’s continued attempts to run us out. There will be a day when Ontario and Quebec give western Canada the bird at the polls and put the natural governing party back in power, or a coalition of some sort. That will be when the fun starts.
jom
Question : How much has it cost Alberta to be part of Canada?
Here is an incomplete list of payments I copies from the Alberta Separation Parties website.
1961-1992 Alberta paid $139 billion more in transfer payment than it received
1997-2003 Alberta paid $54.9 billion more in transfer payments than it received
2009 9.2 trillion to date and the year isn’t over yet.
Answer: It’s cost Albertans at least $203 billion in transfer payments alone since 1961 and that doesn’t include payments made from 2004-2008.
Miyra
Anecdotally I’ve yet to find anyone who doesn’t think it’s a good idea. This isn’t a left/right issue because when people I’ve spoken to from the left are made aware of the issues, they see it in there own best interest to remove the elephant from our backs.
Strategically, all of our leaders are in Ottawa trying to make Canada work despite central Canada’s continued attempts to run us out. There will be a day when Ontario and Quebec give western Canada the bird at the polls and put the natural governing party back in power, or a coalition of some sort. That will be when the fun starts.
jom
oops, that’s jmo
sorry for the double
Jason:
Headquarters of the TD bank are where?
Study commissioned by whom?
Being a long, long, long time Western Separatist, since the little prick Pearson thrust that eastern Canadian flag in liberal colours down our throats long time, I love to hear talk of the West saying bye bye. Could you just imagine the education and health care systems we would have without, especially Quebec, sucking everyone dry? I must say I was upset at the fact in Alberta they called it the wild rose party and narrowed their scope to Alberta alone.
Being a long, long, long time Western Separatist, since the little prick Pearson thrust that eastern Canadian flag in liberal colours down our throats long time, I love to hear talk of the West saying bye bye. Could you just imagine the education and health care systems we would have without, especially Quebec, sucking everyone dry? I must say I was upset at the fact in Alberta they called it the wild rose party and narrowed their scope to Alberta alone.
Don’t ask if we should separate, ask why should we stay? ~ Indiana Homez
Wouldn’t want to give up the longest un-defended border in the world.
Goreacle Report: Please stop with the “scaremoneyring” willya.
‘S’bad ’nuff being called manbearswineAGW. And, can the LizardMay “left-wing greens” stuff and the Boob Mao Stlong Lae schtick.
…-
“When people overstate happenings that aren’t necessarily climate change-related, or set up as almost certainties things that are difficult to establish scientifically, it distracts from the science we do understand.
The danger is they can be accused of scaremongering.
Also, we can all become described as kind of left-wing greens.”
“Met Office Climate Official on Arctic Ice Forecasts: “The danger is they can be accused of scaremongering.”
30 10 2009
I’ve been very critical of statements made by Dr. Mark Serreze of the National Snow and Ice Data Center. It seems that I’m not the only one critical of his statements to the press. – Anthony
Excerpts from The Times, UK story:
Exaggerated claims undermine drive to cut emissions, scientists warn
Mark Henderson, Science Editor”
urlm.in/diol (WUWT?)
A comment* from WUWT? (see above).
As the commenter points out, the finger-pointing within the AGWarmist religion is starting.
Say goodnight, Lorne.
Goodnight Lorne.
…-
“*wws (16:17:17)
What’s pathetic is that all of the scaremongering (An Inconvenient Truth, anyone?) was just fine as long as it looked like it was driving a friendly political resolution.
But now that some of the brighter warmists are starting to realize that they’re just shooting themselves in the foot, it’s “hold on! We know that story was way overhyped, don’t blame us it was those other guys that did it!!!”
They’re just trying to figure out a way to regain the trust they forfeited with their lies. Too late.”
I a bit pressed for time right now and didn’t get a chance yet to read ALL the comments above, so hopefully I’m not ‘parroting’ other posters.
My Point:
Should the Copenhagen debacle pass (now or in the future); what EFFECT would it have on the forming of a new republic…(peaceful or otherwise is immaterial in this scenario)
Would it be deemed an illegal action?
If not then would the signed (Global Treaty) by
the original participating country
be considered binding upon the splinter republic ?
I’m sure most can see where I’m headed with this as regards Western seperation from mainland Canada should we find ourselves in that worst of all possible situations of (shudder) supporting Upper and Lower Canada in their never ending desire to be economically free to pursue their neopolitan ways.
It seems to me that like most things to do with so called ‘progressive thinking’,things become static within the so called status quo and so innovative thinking dries up.
I mean seriously…who can competently call the shots on climate and what I perceive from these jokers, is thinking akin to painting oneself into a corner.
However if your looking to be the FINAL world authority on everything,then this scam is the one.
Maz2: “S’bad ’nuff being called manbearswineAGW. And, can the LizardMay “left-wing greens” stuff and the Boob Mao Stlong Lae schtick.”
===========================
That must have taken some high falutin’ keyboard finger dexterity. I’m impressed.
for you western “””separateestass”””, up until about 1960 which way did the money flow?????
only ontario and BC were have provinces, sooooooo, alberta was a teet sucker till then
ontario has been a HAS province rite up to about 2 years ago,sooooooooo, you poor bassturds ain’t start to pay us back yet, so please start NOW
thanx in advance
glasnost, we could join the US and then “we” would have an even longer undefended border, as that would leave Upper Canada without the means to fight for it and with whiny Lower Canada still to contend with. Of course, we would encourage and maybe even pay all the lefties to flee to Canada for safe harbour. Think of the possibilities.
This is starting to sound like a cartoon with fisticuffs and dust flying all over the place.
Are the numbers in the report based upon us all magically getting “green jobs” in “green technology”? If so, methinks they are a wee bit optomistic…
Since joing Canuckistan in 1905, the Province of Alberta has recieved monies from the center of the universe one year,1908. The rest,it has given more then it recieved. Google it GYM.I don’t do work for socialists.