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Doh!
She was a great leader. To bad she went with the gentry on a poll tax to lower there taxes at the expense of the middle class. That would have crushed her own constituency.
To be expected I figure when you end up hob gobbing with the Worlds Elite.
Ah, I will always remember Margaret and the Balkans, those were tough times.
Happy Birthday Ole Gal !!!
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Why the big deal about 84?
I agree that you won’t see that Google logo, but why should they put that logo up every year for Thatcher’s birthday?
85, 90, etc, sure
The point is you’ll never see it no matter her age.
Seeing as she’s the last of the 3 leaders who helped take down Communism (the other 2 being Regan and Pope JPII), I think her birthday should be commemorated every year.
Mrs Thatcher’s science advisor was on the Michael Coren show tonight for an entertaining discussion on the fallacy of global warming. I’ll be Youtubing it later – it’s really worth a look.
“The point is you’ll never see it no matter her age.”
Posted by: Kate at October 13, 2009 6:56 PM
And that is a fact!
The Iron Lady. ‘More balls than most of the men.
G*d bless her.
Matt, please let us know when you’ve got the Coren interview up. I’d be interested in viewing that.
To Mrs. Thatcher, God bless you, dear lady, and Happy Birthday!
I know, I know, but if I had to explain to someone why I’m annoyed that #84 wasn’t widely celebrated, it would be pretty tough.
Annoyance at a #85 snub would be easier to explain.
Nothin’ can be easily explained to a liberal. They don’t listen!
Long live the Iron Lady!
“The point is you’ll never see it no matter her age”
…or yours Erik
G-d I miss Maggie! And Ronnie. I came of age, moved to Vancouver with a very young family and started my business around the beginning of the their joint ascendancy!
How vividly I can recall being attacked at a party after innocently (not dreaming I was expressing a provocative opinion) singing her praises. I believe she plunked down F.A. Hayek’s masterpiece, The Road to Serfdom, and said, “this is my platform”.
But alas! at the risk of raising Vitruvius’s ire, it was only a brief, tenuous moment in the life of the world. A brief interruption in the slide. I can detect only a single political player in their league: Vaclav Klaus.
We are all aware, I presume, that she was on board for “global warming”. Evidently as part of a strategy to nail the coal mining unions.
Tip o-de glass to the Lady herself.
God rest her soul.
Isn’t she the one who’s responsible for that little Falklands war?
Maggie T? the one that jumped the gun couldn’t wait to hand Hong Kong over to the Beijing boys back in 1995? that’s right, *that* maggie thatcher and *that* year. not 1997. she couldn’t wait to ink the arrangements.
Deng Xiao Peng queried his entourage “who is this cow they sent?”
true story, google it or whatever.
curious george – Great Britain transferred sovereignty to Hong Kong July 1st, 1997
Why would I care what Deng said?
glasnost, from wiki
“The Falklands War started on Friday, 2 April 1982 with the Argentine invasion and occupation of the Falkland Islands and South Georgia”
“I owe nothing to Women’s Lib”…..Margaret Thatcher
Compare and contrast Thatcher to the left’s whiney victim harpies that are so instrumental in implementing the Nanny State here. Margaret Thatcher had class, gravitas and courage. Britain was a financial shambles when she entered the picture and her Labour detractors never let up. She was a mental heavyweight.
Contrasting Thatcher to the partisan frivolousness of a Nancy Pelosi or a Barbara Boxer, scratch the surface and there is nothing of enduring substance with those women, says it all. They own nothing that they can call their own.
Darn right, Margaret, you never saw yourself a gender victim nor gamed your way through life.
Funny how the feminists never celebrated her rise to PM.
Happy Birthday, Mrs. Thatcher.
I must say that the picture is perfectly cropped to recapitulate the “g”. Brava!
erik erik erik. 1997 was merely the formality.
the arrangements made between Mags and Chairman Deng were finalized in 1995.
I repeat, the cow couldn’t wait to divest jolly ol’ England of the colony REGARDLESS of the interests of the people of Hong Kong.
furthermore, her nibs once quizzed a primary schooler why one mustn’t eat one’s morning 3 minute egg with a silver spoon. as if every kid in jolly ol’ england is born with a silver spoon in their toothless maw. (p.s. the answer: the sulphur in the yolk reacts to the silver and discolours it)
so feel free sda to continue your rabid right wing hero worship.
Great summary penny. Nice to read you again.
Half Canadian and BatB, you are both right.
Happy birthday Mrs. Thatcher.
curious_george, go give the mausoleum in Red Square another kiss.
That’s right glasnost, she didn’t start the Falklands War, she ended it. You shouldn’t invade a British Crown Colony with this lady at the helm.
Best wishes to Maggie Thatcher on achieving this milestone! She certainly was an iron-clad lady who knew how to present The United Kingdom in a greater global light than she projects right now. With Ronald Reagan at the U.S. helm, they provided the best one-two punch the free world has seen, or will see, in quite some time.
curious_george, the “right” can’t win what? I mean I’m guessing that, as a man of the left, you view colonialism as one of the central causes of a fooked up world, but yet you criticize her for handing it back at the end of the 99 year lease? Surely, as a man of the left and a multiculturalism enthusiast, you don’t subscribe to the “white man’s burden” view on this topic. I would expect that this might be one action you could take a deep breath and praise her for.
Has Hong Kong suffered? Hasn’t China recognized the great value of retaining Hong Kong’s preminent status as a leading capitalist country with their two systems policy.
As penny points out, and as countless GB ex-pats (including my business partner) have pointed out, GB was a irredeemable basket case after 35 years of post WW2 fabian socialism before MT’s timely arrival.
“Mrs Thatcher’s science advisor was on the Michael Coren show tonight for an entertaining discussion on the fallacy of global warming. I’ll be Youtubing it later – it’s really worth a look.
Posted by: Mississauga Matt at October 13, 2009 7:05 PM”
Please do let us know when it’s up, Matt. Should be very interesting.
BTW, when I think of the great Margaret Thatcher, I sometimes think of Golda Meir and that great quote from Israeli Prime Minister David ben Gurion, referring to Meir, “the only man in my Cabinet.” Or one could rightly regard Maggie as a Giant of a Stateswoman, among a horde of political Lilliputians!
Let’s file Kate’s chagrin at Google not celebrating Thatcher’s 84th b-day beside her earlier inability to comprehend Bill Ayer’s joke that he authored Obama’s memoir, shall we?
Maybe it was the same ghost writer that wrote Ayers. Ayers is a liar either way.
Great summary penny. Nice to read you again.
Me No Dhimmi, thanks, I love Kate’s site and my absence has been more to do with my back to work situation and a needed pause mentally to re-group after this election.
It’s nice to see that the gang is all here.
Bless you all.
Dear Margaret,
I wish you have a Happy Birthday and God willing, many more. Orlin from Marquette, Michigan USA.
[deleted. clean up the profanity, misspelled or not. ED]
curious george @ 850PM – I had a look for the egg story, and it’s not quite as you state.
She didn’t “quiz a primary schooler” etc etc
(Backgrounder – as you probably know, she had a BSc, studied crystallography, and worked as a research chemist for a plastics company.)
The egg story came about because she visited a working class school, and explained oxidation to the chemistry class using the silver spoon/egg analogy.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1310&dat=19810601&id=xEkVAAAAIBAJ&sjid=UuIDAAAAIBAJ&pg=2091,72311
Perhaps a lesson mismatched to the target audience, but I’m not going to slag her for that.
Cheers, Erik
curious george – re Thatcher and 1995
I’m unable to find info on that – can you provide some links?
I did find this in an interview with her in 2007
“In her first interview for almost five years, the former prime minister has revealed her disappointment at failing to persuade Deng Xiaoping, the former Chinese premier, to let Britain extend its lease on the colony.”
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“What I wanted was a continuation of British administration,” she says in the radio interview, to be broadcast later this month.”
Thx
bleet – did all the school kids say ‘MMM..mmm…mmm Mrs. Prime Minister’?
My girlfriend shares the same birthday as Iron Maggie. Love them both!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okHGCz6xxiw
“so feel free sda to continue your rabid right wing hero worship.”
curious george @850. I hope you can appreciate my thoughts. I’m not that much into hero worship, exceptions being Poundmaker (Pitiwatanapiwiyan), Crowfoot (Isapo-muxica), and Harry Truman (a Democrat!).
Some people can be role models, which is nice.
But the thing is, you can either be ruled by facts (tempered by emotions), or be ruled by emotion (regardless of facts).
In my opinion, one cannot be left-tilting and simultaneously embrace the science of our world.
I believe in truth, and facts.
Sadly, our neighbour to the south is tilting towards being ruled by emotion, and abandoning actions and consequences.
Cheers,
Erik
Sorry, Pitkiwa*H*anapiwiyin
Has Curious_George always been a troll? I hadn’t picked up on that. George, as everyone as his dog knows, “her nibs” is a grocer’s daughter from Lincolnshire, which FYI is not a posh district in London.
If the official Feminists were for real, which they aren’t of course, they would have to adopt Thatcher as an icon, however much they hate her politics. But really they loathe any form of achievement other than academic poll-climbing.
Thank god that right wing tyrant is no longer in power. She did more of a disservice to Britain than good.
‘Maggie T’ must have done a good job, the left hate her.
“[…] you can either be ruled by facts (tempered by emotions), or be ruled by emotion (regardless of facts).”
“T-Terry” the troll proves it with a drive by smear not 7 hours later.
Almost priceless.
She did more of a disservice to Britain than good.
And, the past thirteen years of Labour have been that much better for Britain? And, perhaps you have forgotten the shambles that Labour made of the country which swept Thatcher into office. Two cycles now of Labour rot have been the bigger disservice to Britain.
ah well Erik. finally something we can agree on. did you see the Gary Sinise version of ‘Truman’? the way Gary mimicked the straightforward quickened way he talked and likewise quick step really gave authenticity to the film.
Harry S Truman, famous for adopting the motto ‘the buck stops here’. I remember a thing about Harry and the way her kept official and personal postage expenses separate; his integrity and honesty demanded it.
Harry Truman was a real fast learner. and earned his place in my encyclopaedia as the greatest US president ever.
curious george – yes, HST was a great great guy, and I also think the best president, and the last of the real heroes of US politics. He made many incredibly difficult decisions.
His integrity was amazing – he refused to give speeches for money after resuming “normal life” – because he thought it would cheapen the office of the president.
I think Mark Twain may have said it first, but Truman also said “Do what is right, you will surprise some, and astonish the rest”
I strongly recommend (if you haven’t read it) the book “Plain Speaking” by Merle Miller. An awesome read.
Cheers, Erik
Oops – forgot to say – haven’t seen the movie but it’s on my list, thanks for the reminder!
we are unlikely to see Thatcher on a google commemorative logo because she does not inspire celebratory feelings in most people. Google are probably aware of this, and thus don’t want to post an unpopular or controversial commemorative logo.
Despite ushering in some much-needed changes in the UK, she is also remembered for her continued support of the apartheid regime in South Africa, the Smith government of “Rhodesia”, and for her involvement in an unnecessary war. (The Falklands war is often described as “two bald men fighting over a comb.)
Her achievements, while radical at the time, are often exaggerated. Prior to the Falklands war, she was on her way out as she had allowed unemployment to rage out of control and none of her Hayek/Friedman tricks were getting results. Let’s also not forget her long friendship with Mr. Human Rights, Augusto Pinochet.
As for bringing down Communism, her contribution is questionable- the Soviets simply ran out of money. When you can’t pay the army, things fall apart on their own.
That she actually said “There is no such thing as society- just a collection of individuals” does not make a strong case for her use as a commemorative logo on Google. Google is a company which is trying to use technology to bring people together, not isolate them into individuals. For this reason alone, she is a poor choice for a google logo.
“Isn’t she the one who’s responsible for that little Falklands war?”
Guilty as charged. FDR was also guilty of a similar crime in 1941 by overreacting to that little misunderstanding at Pearl Harbour and declaring war on Japan.