88 Replies to “Nice Work, Mr. Evans”

  3. Isn’t this just a little, what’s the best word for this? “Tawdry”? I mean, if CC is a total douche, and you engage said douche in argument, link to his douchebaggery, isn’t it to be expected that said douche will slime you? This “outing” of bloggers from each side strikes me as just a tad pathetic. Anonymity isn’t just for safety, it’s also for the simple fact that people have families. Has anyone written anything so horrible that you’s wish him unemployed? I’ll say that if you believe that, you missed the whole point of “sticks and stones”. The Internet is becoming the playground of ill behaved children.

  5. In the infamous words of one Bobby Peter John Day…This all so “FELLATIOTASTIC!”

  6. You nailed the point exactly, rat, when you said “people have families”. If you’re afraid of your words coming back to haunt you and your family, you shouldn’t be saying them, period. If you don’t want trouble, you shouldn’t be saying the kind of stuff he said on a regular basis. Eventually, those things end up turning on you. Now he reaps what he sows. If he loses his job, and his family suffers, he’s got nobody to blame but himself.

  7. Not only did the scumbag have it coming, but he’s getting off lightly. Being pseudonymous doesn’t give you a license to spread vicious, slandering lies about publicly identified individuals you disagree with.
    Criticism, or even name-calling is one thing, but Robert PJ Day, hiding behind his anonymity, put out a public call asking people to help him find Richard Evans’ kids’ school.
    If I had kids, and someone did that, I’d find my way to a face-to-face meeting, with an eye to rearranging fat-boy’s attitude.
    He should count himself lucky that the police aren’t involved.

  8. rat:
    Anonymity is the prime reason why the internet is “becoming the playground of ill behaved children”. When there are no consequences to your actions people tend to act poorly (some more than others). If this Cynic guy acted this way face to face with people he would be missing teeth. Maybe now that he is “outed” he will behave more maturely.

  9. “Has anyone written anything so horrible that you’s wish him unemployed?”
    What does “wish” have to do with anything? Those that employ him will decide if they want to continue employing him.
    BTW: Anyone can be outed.

  10. rat, I note you do not sign your real name. Neither do I.
    Reason being, in my profession simply holding mildly Conservative opinions and writing about them will get you a bunch of grief. Owning a gun or even saying you might like to will get a posse formed to run you out of your job on a rail.
    A posse formed by disgusting human beings like Mr. Robert Peter John Day, aka Canadian Cynic who seem only to feel truly alive when grinding someone else’s face into the dirt.
    I have to say he’s not as fat as I expected.
    BTW does this mean Ti-Guy and CCs other sock puppets are all going to shut up too?

  12. There is one simple thing to say about this. Robert Peter John Day would never have said the things he says under a pseudonym or behind the protection of a computer screen to any of our faces. Never say anything on the internet you aren’t prepared to say to someone’s face.

  13. *
    “rat asks… Has anyone written anything so horrible that
    you’s(sic) wish him unemployed?”
    go to the first comment up top… and read slower.
    *

  14. “If you’re afraid of your words coming back to haunt you and your family, you shouldn’t be saying them, period”
    Here here – its pretty simple.

  15. He looks like a typical passive aggressive university entitlement whore.
    Never worked a day in his life, has a nice paycheck and life, yet he has so much to bitch and moan about.

  16. Anonymity is not a right.
    I believe that anonymity is important when defending the right to freedom of expression when physical threat and violence can befall those expressing themselves. On the other hand, anonymity on blogs has spawned a whole phenomenon of bloggers and commentary which slanders, libels, and insults others while hiding behind the internet. In the past, that was never a right.
    If one is to toss around the kind of slander, libel, and insult that Mr. Day does, one should in the very least be an identifiable individual. Take David Letterman for example … he insults personalities like Palin, publicly, and either falls or stands by what he does. We are all free to criticize or defend him. The public has a chance to seek remedy in the open market place of ideas. On the other hand, characters like Day do what they do simply because they think they can escape the consequences of the free market of ideas … which may include employer sanction if business is harmed, legal actions in civil court, public shunning, … or they may get public acclaim, or the acquiring of a loyal following or even financial gain. Anonymous bloggers though, often do and say things that they could, and would, never do if they had to take full responsibility.
    In Day’s case , one might be able to argue that he holds a dangerously pathologic fixation with the Blogging Tories, and especially Stephen Taylor, Richard Evans, and Neo. He has interfered in people’s private lives as well … all the while hiding behind anonymity.
    The kind of name calling, slander, libel, and vulgar critique that passes as “speech” on his blog, but which hides behind anonimity is a gross bastardization of freedom of expression. It’s one thing to hide from Islamist killers or deranged stalkers, it’s altogether another to hide your identity while personally attacking others for sport … after all, that’s all that Day and his crowd do it for … sport.

  17. I only went there once. I was disgusted and as I tend to speak my mind that takes something. I never expected to see my comment and never checked back. Some places I use my own name. Usually the lefty kind. I do that for one reason and that is I don’t have to hide from my viewpoint now when I didn’t before. Here I use a nom de plume simply because most do, it is prudent and I do not feel the need to prove I won’t be intimidated.

  20. Right Girl, I guess it was too much to hope for.
    Still, now at least people have a name to put on their Human Rights Commission complaints that will be ignored, eh? ~:D
    Incidentally I should mention, I don’t mean that Bobby Day should be made to shut up. On the contrary let him rage on and on. Its just nice to know who I don’t want to turn my back on.

  21. Sometimes there are unseen but viable reasons for posting anonymously on the internet. I began to do it when I realized that my public name was also the name of a well-known reporter (but I am not that person) and that it would be sure to cause problems for him as my views tend to be right of centre and certainly right of the MSM by an honourable mention.
    And the name I do use is actually the name I was born with, and the name that I have used for writing opinion pieces for many years. I was never really trying to hide, and certainly not out of shame or embarrassment (as if I had callously suggested that a grieving mother should rethink her grief, what a horribly simplistic world view that is, but so typical of our leftoid chattering classes).
    Now Canada’s most famous serial complainant affects to be “hurt” by my descriptions of him, and has told his friends of my real identity, thinking this is a punishment for me. In fact, it is no such thing — I have been fighting battles against our entitled Liberal classes for many years under both names in many places, without much success, but then I think we can all share in that frustration.
    The time is coming when a lot of the unchallenged myths, lies and half-truths of our left-liberal society will be challenged, exposed and tossed aside. One of the first misconceptions to fall will be this one — that I either wish to pay, or could pay, any Liberal bureaucrat six figures for the right to free speech. He’d be lucky to get my six iron and not in a very useful form either.

  22. I had a run in with evans once. He extrapolated one small remark, and made some very nasty comments about my person.
    I think both these guys are assholes. Let them out each other, who cares? If someone outs me, so what? People who comment on blog sites don’t strike me as particularly dangerous. Most of them blow off their entire head of steam in a couple of paragraphs.
    I think, as someone else hinted, that the main reason for anonymity is, many of the commentors are using company computers, on company time.

  23. I had a run in with evans once. He extrapolated one small remark, and made some very nasty comments about my person.
    Care to provide a link? It’s only fair that you back your assertions, anonymous or not…
    Thanks Kate, for the link.

  24. It is unfortunate that anyone feels they must assume a fake name to speak their mind, regardless of their employment or situation. If one feels that they must hide their identity, they also feel they must hide their hypocrisy.
    Live free or die!
    Joel Schroeder

  25. Phantom, that’s pretty much my whole point. At work I keep my opinions, and my gun ownership, to myself. On the Internet I am free to voice them. It is nice to be able to voice them without someone Googling my name and dropping a line to my employer. Not that my employer would fire me, but it would be one hell of an annoyance just because I voice some opinions. Anonymity isn’t the cause of the bad behaviour on the Interwebs, it’s the intolerance of dissent and the desire to punish the unbelievers. Anonymity is the only shield and an “outing” war between the factions will reduce the debate.

  26. Only a scumbag can out an anonymous blogger. If they had concerns about legality of what he wrote, they should have contacted police.
    Richard Evans, you are a duchebag and an assmagot.

  28. As pointless threads go, this one takes the cake.
    Should CC’s children pay for the crimes that their father has committed? In a world of free-willed individuals, the answer should be a resounding no. Then again, God set a nasty precedent when he decided that Adam and Eve’s descendants should pay for Adam and Eve’s crimes. The children will pay for the sins of the father.
    Personally, I think this is all a bit stupid, but who am I to argue with Kate, or God, or Richard Evans? When have either of these three admitted to making a mistake on a blog?

  29. Anybody throwing around the “c” word at Kate, Wendy, Kathy and others deserves to have to watch their backs.
    Behavior like that needs to be adjusted.
    It’s what makes us civil.
    Like Rightgirl said, Robert PJ Day is missing something, I hope the sunshine helps him find it.

  30. My two cents is that I agree with the premise that you do not put into written text anything you do not want to come back and bite you in the ass. There is no such thing as being anonymous when you author a blog.
    The future could find you explaining yourself to peers or employers, or even voters if you are so inclined. How many candidates have been scuttled by things they wrote in the past?
    BTW my real name is not Illiquid, I know, I know, nor is it The Climate Heretic…surprise!! I used to post my Bio on my sites but nobody really cared so when I changed Blog software I never put it back, you know what? I will do that today.

  31. If what I’ve read of canadian Cynic is true then he is one sick puppy and should be legally responsible for making threats.
    While it is true that anonymity is not a right as per se, people do have a legal right to use a nom de plum if they so desire. Normally, there is no problems for most of us using a “handle” but neither should we expect to hide behind it as an excuse to slander or commit any criminal acts.
    This “outing” of bloggers for the sake of proving a point reminds me of the rash of “closet outings” of notable people that some gay activists turned to a few years back. It screwed up more than a few lives and families and didn’t prove anything.

  32. In general, personal attacks are uncalled for (although calling someone a twit for saying something stupid is fair comment.)
    In this case, it seems more than justified to out this creep, shame this creep and make public the words of this creep.
    If some coward goes after ones children the gloves come off and pretty much nothing is off the table. This sub-human garbage didn’t just cross the line in posting very detailed info about someone’s children, he demolished the line. If he ends up fearing the consequences of that degenerate act, good.

  35. “This is interesting at June 15, 2009 11:23 PM”
    What do you mean, like in a teabagging, or a Freudian slip kinda way?

  36. This sub-human garbage didn’t just cross the line in posting very detailed info about someone’s children, he demolished the line. If he ends up fearing the consequences of that degenerate act, good.
    June would you kindly care to point out WHERE that was done?
    I’m ready to bet that you can’t – because he has not.
    The information on Richard (NAMBLA obsessed) Evans was in the public domain.
    C’mon June, are you a blind follower or can you think for yourself and actually offer some proof?

  37. CWTF: “The information on Richard (NAMBLA obsessed) Evans was in the public domain.”
    Kinda sad, my Cherniak-obsessed friend. So you’d be OK if someone posted where you live to people who might have an inkling to do you harm? It’s one thing to be in the phone book and quite another to have someone circle your entry in red and write “pedophile” with an arrow to it. Whether CC actually posted the school or only implied it was one near the address of Richard Evans is irrelevant. Mentioning Evans’ children in that context is threatening and I think any reasonable person would see it that way.
    I don’t think outing CC’s identity is the right thing to do, but I have little sympathy for him and his defenders, especially if the best you can do is a hair-splitting defence of whether or not he actually posted the school. Grow up.

  38. torybaiter; I would say none. It’s a stereotype of those guilty of that very act in order to deflect the truth.

  39. “Linux geek…say no more”
    What is that supposed to mean? A higher than average proportion of geeks are libertarian and/or conservative. I assume it’s because we’re well trained in logic.

  40. So, CWTF aka CC aka Robbie Day, how are ya sleepin’ these days? Looking over the shoulder a bit? Having trouble keeping the ol’ Wheaties down?
    Don’t sweat it, bro! We Conservative types pretty much can’t be bothered to chastise weird people like yourself in person. Might get splashed by the ooze, y’know. Hard to dry clean.
    No, what I’d worry about if I were you is the enormous, gigantic government machinery that’s sitting on the line, waiting for the green light to pop into gear and start chewing up your life. If you want a real shiver, google “workplace abuse” and count the number of different government departments whose hundreds of tax funded minions are ACHING for a new case to justify their bloated expense accounts.
    One offended girlie in your life drops one dime, and you are slow motion lunch meat. Jennifer Lynch ain’t going to give you a pass, Robbie.
    Personally I think this state of affairs is appalling, and I vote against it whenever I can. Women shouldn’t have to have dozens of multi-million dollar agencies to protect their calm at work. They should be able to mangle misogynistic perverts themselves, at need.
    There’d be a lot less perverts in the world, I’m sure you’ll agree.

  41. To paraphrase Sean Connery in The Untouchables, “don’t bring a knife to a gunfight”. And Mr. Evans did not. Fight fire with fire. Good job.

  42. CWTF
    First off, it’s Jason. June is the month we are in.
    Second, in the link above you have name, address and instructions on how to harass the children. In a better world you’d be tried and shot for less. What part of that is hard to comprehend?
    I have not followed Evans, and don’t care to. If the guy is what he is accused of, it still doesn’t justify bringing his children into the equation. Period.
    Why is it that leftards feel that if you don’t tow the leftard party line without straying even a bit then you can attempt to destroy someone completely and go after family? See Palin’s treatment for another example.
    Frankly Palin was not my cup of tea. I didn’t much care for her when she was announced on the VP ticket. But the more sub-human leftard garbage attacked her and her family, the more I sided with her. Especially in the classy way she’s handled the abuse. I don’t like a lot of her policy but it’s hard not to like her character. Her detractors are some of the most vicious, hateful, hypocritical vermin I have ever had the displeasure to witness.
    The southpark guys said it best: I hate republicans but I really, really f’ing hate democrats. The left really are not worthy even of the air they breath.

  43. Rat, I kinda agree with you, but I also kinda don’t. My problem is that you and I need to be anonymous on the web because of extreme political correctness, which is championed by the likes of CC, Dr. Dawg, Balbulican and all these other really objectionable creatures who say the foulest things all the time.
    I just like to see guys like that held to the same standard that oppresses you and me every day. You play with the bull, don’t whine when you get stuck by his horns.
    Maybe if Robbie Day and Johnny Baglow and a few more of these cretins have to experience the PC meat grinder first hand, they won’t be so devoted to making it bigger.

  44. Apropos, http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/the_web/article6509677.ece
    Police blogger outed by the courts in Britain. More shut-upery from the British Big Brother brigade. Downside of outing, it gives bureaucrats
    more power.
    Time to shrink the meat grinder! Either that or time to get really ingenious about remaining unidentifiable on the web. Next killer app could be identity concealment for bloggers, programmers start your keyboards.

  45. My problem is that you and I need to be anonymous on the web because of extreme political correctness
    Yawn me a river….
    Why is it that it’s always different with your type?

  46. If the guy is what he is accused of…
    I’m not. Their little group didn’t like the fact that their views on the age of consent were being exposed and they tagged me as being NAMBLA obsessed as a result of my desire/efforts at getting the age of consent raised.
    I’d suggest that you head over to Robs site to read up on it but it seems that he’s chosen today to re-vamp his blog. One can almost hear the shredder red-lining in the background…

  47. “If the guy is what he is accused of…
    I’m not.”
    Definitely good to hear if not entirely surprising (leftards accusations are about as reliable as their 5 year plans were.)
    That said, even if the accusations were true, they still would not justify taking it out on family.

  48. I think that if you are prepared to say something in the public square, you need to be prepared to own your words. If you want to be anonymous, the risk you take is that people will figure out who you are. Accept it, or shut up.
    And besides, people should not think that they can say threatening or defamatory things from behind a mask,and then cry when they get outed.
    If you are going to call a guy a pedophile, you better be prepared to back up your words with evidence. And if you are going to threaten children with harassment, you had better be prepared to be run out of town on a rail.

  49. Anonymous dissent is critical to a well-functioning democracy. Sometimes the reason people post anonymously is to avoid the wrath of the powers that be. That’s why I don’t support the outing of bloggers.
    Having said that, one can not use anonymity to commit crimes or torts, and that might apply to CC. But I think the real reason people want him outed is because he’s the most vicious blogger in the Canadian political blogosphere, with overtones of misogyny and antisemitism thrown in for good measure. In my view, that’s not good enough reason. I won’t lose any sleep over this, but I wouldn’t have done it.
    By the way, Day runs a computer training company and perhaps does programming consulting work. I don’t think he’s formally employed.
    I wonder if Day will tone down his blog now that his real name is out there?

  50. “I wonder if Day will tone down his blog now that his real name is out there?”
    Google Cache anyone?

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