At The Politic: Submit your suggestions for the top ten un-conservative things the Conservative Party of Canada has done since their election in 2006.
At The Politic: Submit your suggestions for the top ten un-conservative things the Conservative Party of Canada has done since their election in 2006.
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http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2009/05/14/top-ten-unconservative-things-the-conservative-party-of-canada-had-done/
Only the top 10?
The only thing the conservatives have left to run on is that they aren’t worse like the Liberals and Dippers and Harper isn’t Iggy.
On the other hand, what are they supposed to do being at the mercy of 3 leftard parties in order to pass every or any bill?
Seriously. Harper may have degraded his former credentials into “least bad” territory but he has the defence of necessity. Does anyone not remember the horror show fright the mere threat of Prime Minister Dion represented?
Anyone think the state of affairs in Canada would be better had Harper fallen on his sword on the alter of ideological purity?
Blame the man when he has a majority and doesn’t change his tune. In the mean time, lets just say it could be worse and would be without him.
Uh oh, Warwick, we all know how broke LPC was and still Harper never moved to a confidence vote on the registry issue. No way the Libs gained any seats in the election that would ensue.
If you really “believe” that “Conservative” policies would be good for the country…whats the fear of doing a thing or two!!
If you really “believe” that “Conservative” policies would be good for the country…whats the fear of doing a thing or two!!
Aaron
All the rubes who are afraid of guns live in the cities and in great numbers.
So, yes, the CPC would lose votes and seats and they don’t exactly have an overabundance to spare.
Guns are not a winning issue in Canada. That’s just reality.
“but he has the defence of necessity”
Posted by: Warwick at May 14, 2009 4:25 PM
Ah, the call to retreat of the coward and the weak.
I’ve heard alot about governing as a ‘pragmatist’ over the past while. A great catch phrase, but still bullshit.
Chretien governed as a ‘pragmatist’ too. Which is identical to simply holding onto power.
One person in here tell me that the GST and pension reform weren’t good for the nation. And then tell me that Muldoon getting punted from office for it wasn’t a direct result of this legislation.
I don’t like the guy for a myriad of reasons, but the GST and pension reform were two decent legacies.
And ‘pragmatists’ don’t have the balls to undo what is right.
Anyone remember the ‘cancel free trade’ promise of the Libranos?
And ‘pragmatists’ don’t have the balls to undo what is wrong…
So how’s that western separation thingy coming along, hardboiled?
It’s a minority government. Everyone knows how hysterical the newspapers got after a couple arts funding cuts. Could you imagine what would happen if they tried anything major. Lets get them a majority and see what happens. Hopefully major government cutbacks, affirmative action stopped, gun control stopped, Charter adjusted to recognize everybody as equal, equity departments shut down, taxes cut big time, CBC dismantled, etc etc.
Posted by: A. Cooper at May 14, 2009 5:45 PM
about as good as the Quebecqois version of it…
“…un-conservative things…”
It’s very simple, as soon as someone can set the bounds on what are “conservative things”, then everything else is un-conservative.
Without looking at anyone else’s list, here are my top-of mind issues:
1. Bailing out the automobile manufacturers.
2. Not doing a thing about the infamous Section 13 of the HRCs.
3. Not doing much of anything to shrink the federal government and its associated spending.
4. Not seemingly doing much to reduce the endless grants to most every sector of our society.
5. Not attempting to either shut down the CBC or even force a people/content change there.
6. Not pushing for some degree of choice when it comes to health care insurance.
7. Caving in (at least on the surface) to the Global Warming “religious” fanatics.
8. Doing nothing to decrease the endless taxes when it comes to airline travel.
9. Not doing anything substantial to reduce income tax – see #3 above.
10. Other than Jason Kenney, not doing much to dismantle the destructive & divisive multiculturalist policies of Trudeaupia. We are all Canadians, not hyphenated citizens!
I’ll second Robert W.’s list.
you forgot about the gun registry
I’ll have to admit that, yes, the Conservatives have done some unconservative things.
I’m sure I could think up ten things.
But that’s nothing compared to the unconservative things Bush did, and that Obama’s doing now… Obama breaks all records for doing unconservative stuff in no time flat!
That considered, and thinking about how unconservative the Liberals would be, I’d say, hey, it could be a LOT worse!
Until a Perfect Leader and a Perfect Party come along, I’ll continue to vote for and openly support the Harper Conservatives.
The “stimulus” spending? Like, what else can one do? Hand the country over to the Three Stooges (that automatically included Iggy the moment Dion stepped aside) so they can spend ten times as much, and spend it on useless, non-stimulatory crap (again)?
If it was me, I’d have played chicken with the leftists. I mean, remember that the Tories were above 50% in the polls at the time of the coup being threatened? Perfect time to go for a majority, and, besides, really, the recession wasn’t so bad that an election couldn’t have happened, plus it would’ve been the Stooges’ fault, and they’d be blamed, not the Tories.
I agree with Robert W. Good list.
I mean, remember that the Tories were above 50% in the polls at the time of the coup being threatened? Perfect time to go for a majority…
Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at May 14, 2009 8:12 PM
Indeed…
Show me where the Conservatives were above 50% in the polls.
The things that bug me most about that list of Robert W.’s is the caving in to the global warming hysteria.
See the BC election. I still feel dirty marking my X for the Liberal candidate, only to save us from the NDP. It was not a vote FOR someone, it was AGAINST someone. Gordo should not assume everyone agrees with his carbon tax.
Same on the federal level. As much as our Conservatives have caved in on some files, the Liberals would be much much worse.
There has to be some politician somewhere in this country who is brave enough to tell the truth about the myth that is global warming.
Ditto Soccermom, very much ditto!!!
It’s nice to see this topic being broached, Kate. I’ve taken a lot of flak for criticizing the party’s un-conservative behaviour.
One of the Conservatives’ talking points on the CBC includes criticizing the Liberals for slashing the CBC’s budget in the 1990s. That is OUTRAGEOUS.
Robert W.’s list is excellent, but don’t forget:
– planning to regulate the credit card industry
– planning to regulate the with anti-spam legislation (I hate spam too, but that is socialist and wrong)
– abandoning their fall 2008 promise to scrap publicly funded political subsidies (I agree that thwarting the coalition was necessary, but this was an EXCELLENT promise and I’m very disappointed to see that it was a casualty)
– not doing more to promote private health care (specifically delegates voting down a policy motion that would have seen the government do more to encourage private health care at the November convention and the PM’s repeated statements that he “support(s) the public system”)
– reversing cuts in public subsidies to “the arts” after a bunch of spoiled leftist whiners complained
– ditto on “Status of Women,” which now has more money devoted to it than ever before
– PM Harper has suggested that he believes free markets caused the recession
– throwing genuine conservatives (see deposed election candidate Chris Reid of Toronto — Kathy Shaidle had some excellent posts about him) under the bus because socialists don’t like what they have to say
– failing to turn huge surpluses ($13B in the 2008 budget) into substantial tax cuts
– upholding the socialist statist quo on the Canadian Wheat Board
To be fair, they have done some excellent work promoting free trade and deserve major kudos for that. But I’m still disappointed about the things I’ve listed and more.
The Conservatives are fighting as a minority government….. with the so called “national” but tranna based broadcaster knifing them at every opportunity real or imagined.
So kiss my sphincter, they are in a tough battle, and you wiil just have to be patient…
By the way, the LIE-brannos STILL have not paid one red cent of the money stolen under Cretin..as promised by capo PAOLO MARTINO.
Think they have> Where’s the cheque??
I don’t appreciate the deal Harper made with our Caribean Queen, in order to prorogue parliament. The sudden announcement of a $7 million fund for foreign students from the West Indies was a blatant gift to our governor general. However you slice it, that’s dirty politics.
I just don’t care. They are the best thing to happen to this country for average Canadians in a decade taking all the basket case issues we have to deal with in that thing we call Parliament. As a minority government, they have not done half bad. As a Majority government, they could do a lot better. The media is against them at every turn and are not above lying through their teeth about anything and everything. As soon as they go rid of Dion and honed onto Iggy the leftoid media went nuts over that stupifyingly arrogant Iggy. It would be like having Trudeau all over again and we have not gotten over the FIRST one!
The first tax cuts in 13 years and a reduction in the GST is about all you can ask for, yet I would like to see a whole lot more on the tax reduction front. ALL these things need fixing but it does take time and a majority government with about 10 years under it’s belt to accomplish it.
I’m with everyone who points out that Prime Minister Stephen Harper and the CPC are very vulnerable as a minority government, especially given the lib-left loonies on the other side of the HOC just waiting to ambush them, with their MSM posse at their side.
PMSH is walking a very fine line — and with some finesse to add. Compared to the U.S. in this economic meltdown, Canada’s doing very well, and it’s not because PMSH and his government have been sitting on their hands. Given that the MSM jumps on them at every turn, they’re keeping their powder dry and their cards close to their chests.
If, when the CPC get a majority government, they don’t do many of the things on Robert W.’s list, I’ll happily kick their butt. But, until then, I highly commend the deftness with which our PM — the best in decades — is holding the fort. Just think of the alternative if he doesn’t: Prime Minister Count Iggula.
Now, there’s a truly scary thought.
One biggie was during 2005 when Harper et al were part of an all-party, fast-track, approval of Bill S-3 into Law S-3 (an amendment to the Official Languages Act) so it could be signed into law just previous to the 2006 election. It pretty much ensures that French will be invoked on demand in the ROC – not, as previously, invoked where numbers warrant. The implications of this are huge for the upcoming generations (financially/socially/legally) and the repealing of this is probably zero. The continued patronizing/financial/Social rewarding of QC has been ongoing – and to what avail exactly?
Unless the legal system of a country is sound – there is a weak foundation and we have a weak foundation. His government’s continued absence in terms of trying to improve a very bad situation re the CHRC/CHRT (freedom of speech issue, Sec 13) and failing to rein in the Immigration Refugee Board (lay people making huge decisions about who gets into this country, who doesn’t, and who gets deported (particularly illegals and criminals). These are quasi-judicial bodies and are making case law/enforcing laws daily. Imo, both are totally out of control, yet the beat goes on.
Along with this of course goes using the CHRC/CHRT as the hammer to enforce Official Multiculturalism. That he doesn’t have a majority to bring change is nonsense. AB has a huge PC majority and was apparently snowed by a small minority of MLAs into allowing the freedom of expression sections to remain in the AB HRC re-write proposals. It remains to be seen what, if any, political fallout comes from this.
There are very few, if any, “good” politicians in Canada. Realistically, the best we can hope for are the “least bad”.
Harper and the Conservatives are currently the “least bad” federal politicians in Canada…they have and will continue to have my vote until the next “least bad” group comes along.
And, in my books, the LPC and NDP will NEVER be “least bad”.
All this talk about whether the Conservatives are conservative enough does NOTHING BUT drive more votes to the G*DAM#$D SOCIALISTS (LPC) AND COMMUNISTS (NDP)!
As they say, if you don’t vote, you can’t complain…well, if you AREN’T a member of the CPC and you don’t actively participate in the organization trying to change things for the better, then go whine to yourself.
By no means do I mean that we should sit silently by and say nothing or, worse, be their partisan cheerleader…but we should focus our efforts on CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM, not just bitching.
I’d say every single person crabbing about Harper should go out and buy their very own copy of Sun Tzu’s Art of War and read it. Twice. Per year.
I’m willing to buy the minority reason, but they’ve still set a pretty problematic precedent. The last election was expected to produce a majority, and their platform contained a promise to fund the CBC “at or above current levels” (among other major spending promises). Things like that have to stop.
I don’t see this as bitching but rather things the base would really like to see done.
batb at 7:28 and Warwick at 10:33 – I think you’re right on the mark.
It’s all about optics, and the MSM is one huge ugly problem.
Show me where the Conservatives were above 50% in the polls.
Posted by: A. Cooper at May 14, 2009 9:12 PM
Ok, no problem!
Harper Conservatives Soar To 51% Support: Compas
http://thecanadiansentinel.blogspot.com/2008/12/harper-conservatives-soar-to-51-support.html