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Belinda Stronach and Krista Erickson have also been strangely silent. And Sheila Copps?
I heard they are also waiting for word from Sir John A, but apparently he is having a hard time finding something to wear!
Next the Liberal will be holding a seance in Parliment ,trying to implore advice from the ghost of Trudeau past.
Young Justin is either smart enough to keep his mouth shut or he’s being deliberately insulated by the media…
Yup. Time to start the chatter asking where Pierre’s son stands on this.
I was angry enough without having a picture of the Antichrist stuck under my nose.
Kate, please refrain from ever doing that again. I’m in good shape but a heart can only take so much pressure and my ticker’s at about 900psi…
They should organize a sit in at Trudeau’s offices. He has to speak up against this or the myth pops like nothing you have ever seen…
Evans,
I think we know that there was only really one viable option: the creep’s media fans are covering for him so he doesn’t have to take a stand.
Ditto warwick! I almost lost my dinner when I saw that photo.
“Yup. Time to start the chatter asking where Pierre’s son stands on this.”
My guess he will side with the commies Taliban Jack, Marxist Duceppe but with Bob Rae in the mix.
I heard Justin’s only reaction so far is:
“Welcome to the 1980s.”
Whinger’s heads exploding in the rightosphere…how amusing. Almost as amusing as Dear Fat Leader outsmarting himself.
All that’s missing is Marty McFly.
Iberia I realize you are chronologically challenged but even you should understand that this was not Harper’s doing. Layton and Duceppe and Dion were plotting this since before the last election. They were simply looking for an opportune time that would most exonerate themselves from this coup.
I wonder how many old guard Libs held shares in Petrofina before Petro Canada, under Maurice Strong, with the guidance of Trudeau paid over $100 a share when they were worth less than $20?
Wouldn’t it be nice to unseal that deal that has been hidden from Canadians as a state secret for so long?
“Pierre’s father owned a chain of gas stations in Quebec which he sold to Petro Fina prior to WWII. As payment, Pierre’s dad got a lot of shares in Petro Fina. This sale made Pierre Trudeau heir to a sizeable fortune. Pierre’s dad died leaving his fortune to his wife.
In the 1970’s the Arabs jacked up the price of oil and the Canadian government under Pierre Trudeau decided it needed a national “toy” oil company, i.e. Petro Canada. The boys in Ottawa decided they needed a chain of gas stations in their “toy” oil company. Petro Fina owned a chain of gas stations in eastern Canada. The stock was trading at about 10 bucks. The government began negotiations with Petro Fina and its stock rose and rose and rose. Finally, the government closed the Petro Fina deal, got the chain of gas stations, paid Petro Fina big dollars and our government got more debt.
Mrs. Trudeau got rich on the shares she held and Pierre was very happy to see his Momma get rich because he was the heir of her estate. A number of years later, Momma died and Pierre got rich too.
The documents concerning the sale were sealed for fifty years as state secret.
Pierre Trudeau, our CBC created national hero, was a crook.”
joe,
iberia’s challenges span over more than just the clock. He’s a leftard and is thus incapable of ever comprehending why he is scum.
That photo’s is more than just a little stomach churning!
Do we not have censorship laws against internet hate speech? Where’s the CHRC when you need them, SDA is walking a fine line on “offensive”………………..
The great moral coward who failed to rise to the challenge of his generation, who stayed all warm and comfy in Montreal while hundreds of thousands of real Canadians volunteered to save democracy from the tyranny of Hitler’s brand of socialism.
A truly skanky piece of Liberal pond scum who should be reviled for his moral cowardice. I’d spit on him if he was still alive.
Canada’s greatest embarrassment – and that is saying something considering we now have Whacko Jacko butt licking the Bloc Traitors.
“A deal has been negotiated between NDP Leader Jack Layton and Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion that would see them form a coalition government for two and a half years, the CBC’s Keith Boag reported, citing sources.
“The most difficult question is who’ll be the leader,” Boag said, adding that Dion, who negotiated the deal, believes he has the right to be prime minister”
Well now we know what entitlements that Steffi is entitled to . . . being our PM
What a dufus, wonder how fast it will take Iggy’s campaign to bitch slap this loser back to reality.
I can only imagine what Justin’s response might be:
I love you
You love me
We’re one big fam-i-ly
Lalalalalalalalalalalalala
“A deal has been negotiated between NDP Leader Jack Layton and Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion that would see them form a coalition government for two and a half years, the CBC’s Keith Boag reported, citing sources.”
If the conservatives are defeated and the GG agrees to let the troika govern, then I repeat –
Canada will be a de facto COMMUNIST led state.
I would hope Harper has a surprise somewhere for the sleazy coniving communist bastards.
LOL, OMG!
I would like to know what Steffi has to say about all this,or rather what Steffi’s woman has to say. He has also been noticeably absent. I do miss him. “Mr.Dion,if you are annointed prime minister by the governor-general,what will you do to stengthen the economy?”.Reply,” who is dis governor that is a general,I don’t know him,and I don’t think I would be an ointed prime minister like that bully Steven ‘arper,what does ointed mean? Can we do this over?”. Yeah,I miss him.
“Can we do this over?””
Exactly right. Like the “interview”, Stephanie didn’t like the outcome of the election, so he wants to do it again, but since he is the leader of the Entitlements party, why bother with an election.
I suspect that PET is rolling over in his grave over this (figuratively-speaking obviously and I think he was cremated). For the liberals to cut a deal with separatists makes a mockery of everything he stood for, not the least of which was his use of the War Measures Act.
Which brings me to the genius that is Kate:
How could PET’s son – the newly elected MP vote join ranks with the Bloc? Surely there must be many others (iggy for one) who would not vote in favour?
“Layton and Duceppe and Dion were plotting this since before the last election.”
Sure, and one election before that, Harper wanted a coalition with Layton and Duceppe to force Martin out of power. But that was then…
Burn, Harpercrits, burn.
Iberia, I believe Harper and the bloc were going to vote together to end Martins rein of power and bring about an election. This is a little different than actively governing a country together. Don’t ya think? Duh.
Criminals, communists, and separatists, all working together. Kinda gives me the warm fuzzies.
Thats unfair…..you think it ees eeezy to choose the right shirt, pants and get the hair done at a moments notice.
I will be issuing my statement right after uncle Mo tells me what to say.
Lets have done with it, Free the West
Oh lberia…fact check.
Harper wanted an ELECTION and not an overthrow of the govt nor a sadsack coalition installed as the govt.
It’s ok. You’re forgiven for wanting a do-over.
Of course it’s different when the Conservatives do it.
From a story by Bruce Cheadle, The Canadian Press:
The Conservative’s claim that a coalition government would have no legitimacy does not accord with Harper’s own position on the matter just four years ago.
In September 2004, Harper wrote to then-governor general Adrienne Clarkson to argue that she should “consider all your options” if the Liberal minority of Paul Martin was to fall on a confidence vote.
“We respectfully point out that the opposition parties, who together constitute a majority in the House, have been in close consultation,” Harper wrote.
Harper co-signed the letter with NDP Leader Jack Layton and Bloc Quebecois Leader Gilles Duceppe.
Wow! a coalition of idiots, losers and separatists. I think these people are fairly desparate. Could in the end be the best thing to ever happen to the Conservatives. Can you imagine the infighting in such a government? The Bloq and the Liberals? The Liberals and the NDP? None of these folks share ideology or enough pragmatic policy to be viable. They could last a while as a government I suppose, but can you imagine the leaks to the press? Bring this on, if they want to control the economy right now let them do it. They’ll self destruct in the next election and tar themselves as the problem!
Let em have their coup.
Then watch the riots… when taxes are doubled. Talk about your civil unrest, gas at $1.50/litre in Tranna again, and the Librannos, of ADSCAM fame get the blame.
There’s always a silver lining.
Iberia, don’t be stupid. Its a far, FAR cry between the seperatists helping to defeat a minority governement which always eventually happens and on the other hand, asking them, a party dedicated to destroying our country’s unity, to help sit as part of that government. That is an abomination, and seriously putting all the fun of political partisanship aside for a second, the fact that you can’t or won’t see the difference is utterly disturbing.
Regardless of what you think of the opposition, Harper has changed the day of the vote and he has been backtracking on his policies all weekend. Some leadership. Do anything to stay in power. Steven Harper…not a leader!
Expect a bad day on the TSE Monday.
Anyone know any good countries to park your investments and life’s savings in?
*yawn*
Looks like the Iberia-troll is stuck-on-stupid, and thus should not be fed any further. It is impervious to facts or reason.
mhb23re
Hey Lycan Stark: (From CP)
“Those talks did not invoke a coalition, but rather revolved around replacing the elected Liberal minority with a Conservative government led by Harper and supported by the New Democrats and Bloc on an issue-by-issue basis.”
You guys can split hairs all you want, the end result would have been the same. But it’s different when Conservatives do it…
There’s been some talk that not all Liberals will show up for this important vote.
Enabling the Conservatives to continue, with their agenda.
So if the current state of affairs in Ottawa continues with a Conservative minority government, what is the chance that Stephen Harper will include the item that seemed to start this weekend’s blog rage? The banning of government handouts to all political parties. Can this be simply added back into the mix for next mondays vote? With an insufficient number of Liberals to strike it down?
can’t make it up folks, I think we all underestimate PMSH, still.
especially the dead tree pundits.
“Those talks did not invoke a coalition”
===================
Iberia, maybe you should read that part of your own quote again. Then go back to sleep.
Sorry guys, I’m done throwing meet under the bridge now.
“…replacing the elected Liberal minority with a Conservative government led by Harper and supported by the New Democrats and Bloc on an issue-by-issue basis.”
Not a coalition, just replacing the party that was elected to run the country. So what part are you Cons pissed off about? The coalition, or replacing the party in power?
Are you trying to scare us with horrific spectres of terrible times past, Kate?
Sure made my supper lurch in my stomach.
Earlier someone said that Sir John A was having trouble finding something to wear. Actually, I think he’s having trouble finding something to drink!
Personally, I’m a little ticked at PMSH. First, he throws the Hill into a fit, and then he, actually his campaign chair, hits me up for a donation because the oppostion is threatening to topple him. As I said when this story broke, I wasn’t too comfortable with Harper’s tactics. Now, two retreats later (union strikes and party funding) and still we’re faced with non-con vote.
I believe in PMSH’s economic strategy. I’m not convinced that showering tens of billions over the economy is necessary at this point. As Peter Seller’s character ‘Chance’ the gardener articulated in the movie Being There , if the roots are strong and healthy, the plant will grow well. IOW, get the economic fundamentals correct and the politics will look after itself.
Governing should be boring. It should be deciding which water work projects get funded, which roads get built, and which trade pacts get signed etc. It shouldn’t be about entitlements and pet projects in members’ ridings.
All 308 should suck back, reload, take a deep collective breath and get TF on with running the country.
EOM
PhilM, you realize of course that this coalition to take down the Government was being formed long before Mr. Harper did anything, and was going to happen no matter what the Government did.
To say that the Prime Minister caused it, is just wrong.
I would admit, though, that its possible that the Prime Minister moved the schedule up a bit, so as to not allow the opposition to have more time to get organized.
Hate to say it,but I gotta agree with lberia on this one.Did not know I was voting for a balless idiot in PMSH.He has done more flip-flops then a fish out of water.Oh well.We elected a wussie,and so be it.
Justin has a great opportunity here. He can stand up for his father’s legacy and refuse to truck with the separatists. If so, he’ll considerably strengthen his position for the future.
Unfortunately, I believe he is too much of a leftist and will be only too happy to deal with the NDP. We’ll see what he is made of.
Don’t expect too much if you are realistic.
My take:(By sequence of events)
1- The bombs have been dropped since Economic statement. The MSM is in a coverage frenzy assuring public awareness and debate/word of mouth communication at water coolers and kitchen tables with many opinion polls to come. The sleeping Canucks are again shaken out of slumber since last October’s election:
> The $1.95 per vote per year is now out there. More than 80% of Canucks unsurprizingly unaware until now. Will not go well with majority of electorate.
> The public servant unions already backing Opposition coalition to insure pay increases and strike bans not jeopardized. Majority struggling private sector taxpayers will not be amused.
> Opposition coalition with secret NDP tape recording that plans were already set up to overthrow government even prior to economic statement will not go well with electorate fresh out of $300,000,000 election.
> Raging debate if opposition coalision would be accepted by GG with ex separatist ties in Quebec is a huge liability in her decision process. Again, electorate, especially new money/influencial/western Canadians in uproar threatening unity if coalision is accepted by GG.
2-60% chance the three stooges back down before Friday dec 5 and accept to wait for formal Flaherty budget if scheduled to be tabled Jan 27/sign off on pass weekend modified economic statement for now.
OR:
3-40% chance Harper prorogues House until jan. 27 to present budget (Note that Obama would have started to throw money bags at GM and others by then or not: TBD. Logically Canada has to wait for US to make move/Canada is pure export Nation…Too bad MSM not saying this).
4-Budget is tabled Jan.27 with only stimulus plan the already budgeted 30 billion infrastructure fix. Harper targets to still avoid deficit by reigning in expenses including cut to public funding of political parties, ban on strikes by public servants ’till 2011/hourly increase caps like proposed in economic statement and other deficit fighting initiatives (Hopefully, Obama will propose similar cut objectives to US government giving Harper ammunition for budget acceptance by electorate).
5- Budget is defeated by Opposition.
6- GG decides on election rather than controversial opposition coalision government.
7- Electorate is furious and well informed of the issues (See #1 above).
8- Harper’s election machine is still the best lubed of the four. The Liberals are broke and in dissaray with or without new leader. Harper moves an election batalion in Quebec to make sure Duceppe’s lying ass is not free reign like last election.
9- Conservatives win a majority. Layton happy Liberals are all but dead by now.
Conclusion:
Who says Harper is in damage control right now? The man is the Bobby Fisher of Canadian politics: A chess master.
The so called “Coup” is being remotly controlled by the PMO and who knows, Jack might be part of it too for obviously different long term reasons.
Trudeau 2.0 would be wise to stand up to this. If he stood up for national unity and opposed any coalition with the Bloc, he would be seen as the next great champion of Canadian nationalism. He could ride this to victory at a May convention as a politically untested, but highly symbolic candidate.
Well aren’t you the bomb Kate!
Hey David – the least you could do is email Kate and thank her for the friggin idea!
This coup d’etat brings home how extremely important it is to choose a person with a clue to serve as Governor General. Martin had no time or interest to take care so he took the choice of a Liberal MP from Quebec and went with it.
The Bloc will sit in our government if this troika succeeds and they will hold great power because the other two rag-tag asshole parties who only care about power can’t do it alone.
It should be brought home to all people, Layton and Duceppe were plotting this before the fiscal update so it’s not about anything but power.
Layton also had the gall to say having Duceppe in the troika for power would be good for Canada.
WRONG JACKASS, IT’LL BE GOOD FOR QUEBEC ONLY, IT WILL TEAR THE REST OF THE COUNTRY APART.
Just remembering the election, the media kept telling us we didn’t want the election, who ever heard of that before? And the cost! Why every Canadian is scandalized by the cost of the election. Now they are going to tell us we have had enough of elections, we don’t need elections? Where they listing to the Liberal /NDP plans too? Seems MSM has some well laid plans afoot as well.
Belinda Stronach and Krista Erickson have also been strangely silent. And Sheila Copps?
I heard they are also waiting for word from Sir John A, but apparently he is having a hard time finding something to wear!
Next the Liberal will be holding a seance in Parliment ,trying to implore advice from the ghost of Trudeau past.
Young Justin is either smart enough to keep his mouth shut or he’s being deliberately insulated by the media…
Yup. Time to start the chatter asking where Pierre’s son stands on this.
I was angry enough without having a picture of the Antichrist stuck under my nose.
Kate, please refrain from ever doing that again. I’m in good shape but a heart can only take so much pressure and my ticker’s at about 900psi…
They should organize a sit in at Trudeau’s offices. He has to speak up against this or the myth pops like nothing you have ever seen…
Evans,
I think we know that there was only really one viable option: the creep’s media fans are covering for him so he doesn’t have to take a stand.
Ditto warwick! I almost lost my dinner when I saw that photo.
“Yup. Time to start the chatter asking where Pierre’s son stands on this.”
My guess he will side with the commies Taliban Jack, Marxist Duceppe but with Bob Rae in the mix.
I heard Justin’s only reaction so far is:
“Welcome to the 1980s.”
Whinger’s heads exploding in the rightosphere…how amusing. Almost as amusing as Dear Fat Leader outsmarting himself.
All that’s missing is Marty McFly.
Iberia I realize you are chronologically challenged but even you should understand that this was not Harper’s doing. Layton and Duceppe and Dion were plotting this since before the last election. They were simply looking for an opportune time that would most exonerate themselves from this coup.
I wonder how many old guard Libs held shares in Petrofina before Petro Canada, under Maurice Strong, with the guidance of Trudeau paid over $100 a share when they were worth less than $20?
Wouldn’t it be nice to unseal that deal that has been hidden from Canadians as a state secret for so long?
“Pierre’s father owned a chain of gas stations in Quebec which he sold to Petro Fina prior to WWII. As payment, Pierre’s dad got a lot of shares in Petro Fina. This sale made Pierre Trudeau heir to a sizeable fortune. Pierre’s dad died leaving his fortune to his wife.
In the 1970’s the Arabs jacked up the price of oil and the Canadian government under Pierre Trudeau decided it needed a national “toy” oil company, i.e. Petro Canada. The boys in Ottawa decided they needed a chain of gas stations in their “toy” oil company. Petro Fina owned a chain of gas stations in eastern Canada. The stock was trading at about 10 bucks. The government began negotiations with Petro Fina and its stock rose and rose and rose. Finally, the government closed the Petro Fina deal, got the chain of gas stations, paid Petro Fina big dollars and our government got more debt.
Mrs. Trudeau got rich on the shares she held and Pierre was very happy to see his Momma get rich because he was the heir of her estate. A number of years later, Momma died and Pierre got rich too.
The documents concerning the sale were sealed for fifty years as state secret.
Pierre Trudeau, our CBC created national hero, was a crook.”
joe,
iberia’s challenges span over more than just the clock. He’s a leftard and is thus incapable of ever comprehending why he is scum.
That photo’s is more than just a little stomach churning!
Do we not have censorship laws against internet hate speech? Where’s the CHRC when you need them, SDA is walking a fine line on “offensive”………………..
The great moral coward who failed to rise to the challenge of his generation, who stayed all warm and comfy in Montreal while hundreds of thousands of real Canadians volunteered to save democracy from the tyranny of Hitler’s brand of socialism.
A truly skanky piece of Liberal pond scum who should be reviled for his moral cowardice. I’d spit on him if he was still alive.
Canada’s greatest embarrassment – and that is saying something considering we now have Whacko Jacko butt licking the Bloc Traitors.
“A deal has been negotiated between NDP Leader Jack Layton and Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion that would see them form a coalition government for two and a half years, the CBC’s Keith Boag reported, citing sources.
“The most difficult question is who’ll be the leader,” Boag said, adding that Dion, who negotiated the deal, believes he has the right to be prime minister”
Well now we know what entitlements that Steffi is entitled to . . . being our PM
What a dufus, wonder how fast it will take Iggy’s campaign to bitch slap this loser back to reality.
I can only imagine what Justin’s response might be:
I love you
You love me
We’re one big fam-i-ly
Lalalalalalalalalalalalala
“A deal has been negotiated between NDP Leader Jack Layton and Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion that would see them form a coalition government for two and a half years, the CBC’s Keith Boag reported, citing sources.”
If the conservatives are defeated and the GG agrees to let the troika govern, then I repeat –
Canada will be a de facto COMMUNIST led state.
I would hope Harper has a surprise somewhere for the sleazy coniving communist bastards.
LOL, OMG!
I would like to know what Steffi has to say about all this,or rather what Steffi’s woman has to say. He has also been noticeably absent. I do miss him. “Mr.Dion,if you are annointed prime minister by the governor-general,what will you do to stengthen the economy?”.Reply,” who is dis governor that is a general,I don’t know him,and I don’t think I would be an ointed prime minister like that bully Steven ‘arper,what does ointed mean? Can we do this over?”. Yeah,I miss him.
“Can we do this over?””
Exactly right. Like the “interview”, Stephanie didn’t like the outcome of the election, so he wants to do it again, but since he is the leader of the Entitlements party, why bother with an election.
I suspect that PET is rolling over in his grave over this (figuratively-speaking obviously and I think he was cremated). For the liberals to cut a deal with separatists makes a mockery of everything he stood for, not the least of which was his use of the War Measures Act.
Which brings me to the genius that is Kate:
How could PET’s son – the newly elected MP vote join ranks with the Bloc? Surely there must be many others (iggy for one) who would not vote in favour?
“Layton and Duceppe and Dion were plotting this since before the last election.”
Sure, and one election before that, Harper wanted a coalition with Layton and Duceppe to force Martin out of power. But that was then…
Burn, Harpercrits, burn.
Iberia, I believe Harper and the bloc were going to vote together to end Martins rein of power and bring about an election. This is a little different than actively governing a country together. Don’t ya think? Duh.
Criminals, communists, and separatists, all working together. Kinda gives me the warm fuzzies.
Thats unfair…..you think it ees eeezy to choose the right shirt, pants and get the hair done at a moments notice.
I will be issuing my statement right after uncle Mo tells me what to say.
Lets have done with it, Free the West
Oh lberia…fact check.
Harper wanted an ELECTION and not an overthrow of the govt nor a sadsack coalition installed as the govt.
It’s ok. You’re forgiven for wanting a do-over.
Of course it’s different when the Conservatives do it.
From a story by Bruce Cheadle, The Canadian Press:
The Conservative’s claim that a coalition government would have no legitimacy does not accord with Harper’s own position on the matter just four years ago.
In September 2004, Harper wrote to then-governor general Adrienne Clarkson to argue that she should “consider all your options” if the Liberal minority of Paul Martin was to fall on a confidence vote.
“We respectfully point out that the opposition parties, who together constitute a majority in the House, have been in close consultation,” Harper wrote.
Harper co-signed the letter with NDP Leader Jack Layton and Bloc Quebecois Leader Gilles Duceppe.
Wow! a coalition of idiots, losers and separatists. I think these people are fairly desparate. Could in the end be the best thing to ever happen to the Conservatives. Can you imagine the infighting in such a government? The Bloq and the Liberals? The Liberals and the NDP? None of these folks share ideology or enough pragmatic policy to be viable. They could last a while as a government I suppose, but can you imagine the leaks to the press? Bring this on, if they want to control the economy right now let them do it. They’ll self destruct in the next election and tar themselves as the problem!
Let em have their coup.
Then watch the riots… when taxes are doubled. Talk about your civil unrest, gas at $1.50/litre in Tranna again, and the Librannos, of ADSCAM fame get the blame.
There’s always a silver lining.
Iberia, don’t be stupid. Its a far, FAR cry between the seperatists helping to defeat a minority governement which always eventually happens and on the other hand, asking them, a party dedicated to destroying our country’s unity, to help sit as part of that government. That is an abomination, and seriously putting all the fun of political partisanship aside for a second, the fact that you can’t or won’t see the difference is utterly disturbing.
Regardless of what you think of the opposition, Harper has changed the day of the vote and he has been backtracking on his policies all weekend. Some leadership. Do anything to stay in power. Steven Harper…not a leader!
Expect a bad day on the TSE Monday.
Anyone know any good countries to park your investments and life’s savings in?
*yawn*
Looks like the Iberia-troll is stuck-on-stupid, and thus should not be fed any further. It is impervious to facts or reason.
mhb23re
Hey Lycan Stark: (From CP)
“Those talks did not invoke a coalition, but rather revolved around replacing the elected Liberal minority with a Conservative government led by Harper and supported by the New Democrats and Bloc on an issue-by-issue basis.”
You guys can split hairs all you want, the end result would have been the same. But it’s different when Conservatives do it…
There’s been some talk that not all Liberals will show up for this important vote.
Enabling the Conservatives to continue, with their agenda.
So if the current state of affairs in Ottawa continues with a Conservative minority government, what is the chance that Stephen Harper will include the item that seemed to start this weekend’s blog rage? The banning of government handouts to all political parties. Can this be simply added back into the mix for next mondays vote? With an insufficient number of Liberals to strike it down?
can’t make it up folks, I think we all underestimate PMSH, still.
especially the dead tree pundits.
“Those talks did not invoke a coalition”
===================
Iberia, maybe you should read that part of your own quote again. Then go back to sleep.
Sorry guys, I’m done throwing meet under the bridge now.
“…replacing the elected Liberal minority with a Conservative government led by Harper and supported by the New Democrats and Bloc on an issue-by-issue basis.”
Not a coalition, just replacing the party that was elected to run the country. So what part are you Cons pissed off about? The coalition, or replacing the party in power?
Are you trying to scare us with horrific spectres of terrible times past, Kate?
Sure made my supper lurch in my stomach.
Earlier someone said that Sir John A was having trouble finding something to wear. Actually, I think he’s having trouble finding something to drink!
Personally, I’m a little ticked at PMSH. First, he throws the Hill into a fit, and then he, actually his campaign chair, hits me up for a donation because the oppostion is threatening to topple him. As I said when this story broke, I wasn’t too comfortable with Harper’s tactics. Now, two retreats later (union strikes and party funding) and still we’re faced with non-con vote.
I believe in PMSH’s economic strategy. I’m not convinced that showering tens of billions over the economy is necessary at this point. As Peter Seller’s character ‘Chance’ the gardener articulated in the movie Being There , if the roots are strong and healthy, the plant will grow well. IOW, get the economic fundamentals correct and the politics will look after itself.
Governing should be boring. It should be deciding which water work projects get funded, which roads get built, and which trade pacts get signed etc. It shouldn’t be about entitlements and pet projects in members’ ridings.
All 308 should suck back, reload, take a deep collective breath and get TF on with running the country.
EOM
PhilM, you realize of course that this coalition to take down the Government was being formed long before Mr. Harper did anything, and was going to happen no matter what the Government did.
To say that the Prime Minister caused it, is just wrong.
I would admit, though, that its possible that the Prime Minister moved the schedule up a bit, so as to not allow the opposition to have more time to get organized.
Hate to say it,but I gotta agree with lberia on this one.Did not know I was voting for a balless idiot in PMSH.He has done more flip-flops then a fish out of water.Oh well.We elected a wussie,and so be it.
Justin has a great opportunity here. He can stand up for his father’s legacy and refuse to truck with the separatists. If so, he’ll considerably strengthen his position for the future.
Unfortunately, I believe he is too much of a leftist and will be only too happy to deal with the NDP. We’ll see what he is made of.
Don’t expect too much if you are realistic.
My take:(By sequence of events)
1- The bombs have been dropped since Economic statement. The MSM is in a coverage frenzy assuring public awareness and debate/word of mouth communication at water coolers and kitchen tables with many opinion polls to come. The sleeping Canucks are again shaken out of slumber since last October’s election:
> The $1.95 per vote per year is now out there. More than 80% of Canucks unsurprizingly unaware until now. Will not go well with majority of electorate.
> The public servant unions already backing Opposition coalition to insure pay increases and strike bans not jeopardized. Majority struggling private sector taxpayers will not be amused.
> Opposition coalition with secret NDP tape recording that plans were already set up to overthrow government even prior to economic statement will not go well with electorate fresh out of $300,000,000 election.
> Raging debate if opposition coalision would be accepted by GG with ex separatist ties in Quebec is a huge liability in her decision process. Again, electorate, especially new money/influencial/western Canadians in uproar threatening unity if coalision is accepted by GG.
2-60% chance the three stooges back down before Friday dec 5 and accept to wait for formal Flaherty budget if scheduled to be tabled Jan 27/sign off on pass weekend modified economic statement for now.
OR:
3-40% chance Harper prorogues House until jan. 27 to present budget (Note that Obama would have started to throw money bags at GM and others by then or not: TBD. Logically Canada has to wait for US to make move/Canada is pure export Nation…Too bad MSM not saying this).
4-Budget is tabled Jan.27 with only stimulus plan the already budgeted 30 billion infrastructure fix. Harper targets to still avoid deficit by reigning in expenses including cut to public funding of political parties, ban on strikes by public servants ’till 2011/hourly increase caps like proposed in economic statement and other deficit fighting initiatives (Hopefully, Obama will propose similar cut objectives to US government giving Harper ammunition for budget acceptance by electorate).
5- Budget is defeated by Opposition.
6- GG decides on election rather than controversial opposition coalision government.
7- Electorate is furious and well informed of the issues (See #1 above).
8- Harper’s election machine is still the best lubed of the four. The Liberals are broke and in dissaray with or without new leader. Harper moves an election batalion in Quebec to make sure Duceppe’s lying ass is not free reign like last election.
9- Conservatives win a majority. Layton happy Liberals are all but dead by now.
Conclusion:
Who says Harper is in damage control right now? The man is the Bobby Fisher of Canadian politics: A chess master.
The so called “Coup” is being remotly controlled by the PMO and who knows, Jack might be part of it too for obviously different long term reasons.
Trudeau 2.0 would be wise to stand up to this. If he stood up for national unity and opposed any coalition with the Bloc, he would be seen as the next great champion of Canadian nationalism. He could ride this to victory at a May convention as a politically untested, but highly symbolic candidate.
Well aren’t you the bomb Kate!
Hey David – the least you could do is email Kate and thank her for the friggin idea!
This coup d’etat brings home how extremely important it is to choose a person with a clue to serve as Governor General. Martin had no time or interest to take care so he took the choice of a Liberal MP from Quebec and went with it.
The Bloc will sit in our government if this troika succeeds and they will hold great power because the other two rag-tag asshole parties who only care about power can’t do it alone.
It should be brought home to all people, Layton and Duceppe were plotting this before the fiscal update so it’s not about anything but power.
Layton also had the gall to say having Duceppe in the troika for power would be good for Canada.
WRONG JACKASS, IT’LL BE GOOD FOR QUEBEC ONLY, IT WILL TEAR THE REST OF THE COUNTRY APART.
Just remembering the election, the media kept telling us we didn’t want the election, who ever heard of that before? And the cost! Why every Canadian is scandalized by the cost of the election. Now they are going to tell us we have had enough of elections, we don’t need elections? Where they listing to the Liberal /NDP plans too? Seems MSM has some well laid plans afoot as well.