31 Replies to “How to Smoke ‘Em Out of Their Holes”

  1. It’s about time enough gonads were found to hit the Bad Guys where they live. The US is simply doing what our so-called “ally” should’ve done a long time ago.

  2. Musshy isnt in power anymore, no one to protect politically. Bush will be gone in a few months, I am sure the Commander In Chief has told the military to do what it thinks it can, because it has till November 4th for sure, and maybe till January 20th….but time is short.

  3. They are going to have to change the name to:
    HellfireUpYerWazooistan
    Should be a few hundred a week . . . silent death from above gives the bad guys the jitters.

  4. I think most scoff at the notion that Pakistan is an “ally” in the war on terror. To me the opposite is far more accurate. I am fully for the NATO forces going into Pakistan to chase down the Taliban and Alkaida terrorists. The Paks need to understand that if they are not part of the solution, they are part of the problem.

  5. It’s about time, Pakistan hasn’t controlled Waz as any part of it’s territory for any amount of time – it has only “claimed” it. This is just the stuff we get to hear about, one hopes there is more activity taking place that we don’t.

  6. McCain was correct on the surge in Iraq which Obama has now gone on record as saying it was correct.
    Obama mused about chasing these jackasses into Pakistan earlier this year. I believe he’s correct on that. McCain likely agrees, but is craftily not saying anything about it.
    There’s no question the Taliban was trained and encouraged by the Pakistani ISI security forces. Now, like the financial meltdown, the chickens are coming home to roost.
    Pakistan can’t have it both ways. They can’t continue to protect the Taliban.
    My favourite part about the entire piece was how the Afghanis is their Thursday practises, where it’s OK to indulge in homosexual activities … but not if you’re older than 30, since that would confirm you are homosexual.
    For a fleeting moment, our favourite jackass poster came to mind. I’m sure he’s older than 30.

  7. of course war is no longer war. kill the enemy is no longer what one does in war. kiss the enemies ass and hope they don’t kill you. please don’t threaten me.

  10. “Spooky” has a USAF crew, while Predators are UAVs.
    Pakistan has some nice shiny new F-16s, courtesy of the USA, with which to shoot down manned gunships over Pakistani airspace.

  11. “I wonder if they still use “spooky” or has the predator replaced it.”
    The thought of 3 gatling guns firing at a rate of 16,000 rounds per minute would probably do more to unnerve the terrorist thugs than a few missiles…especially at night. Apparently the Viet Cong were terrified of this weapon and they had much more intestinal fortitude than the radical Islamist dirtbags hiding in Pakistan. However, an AC47, being slow and cumbersome, might be brought down with a lucky shot by the inept Pakistani air force.

  12. Oz, if those gunships operated in Pakistani airspace, you can rest assure that they would have fast air cover, and those shiny new F-16’s would never get near it.

  13. That’s the point of Predators, Kursk, to prevent a shooting war between Pakistan and the U.S.
    If manned gunships entered Pakistani airspace the PAF would have to at least try to shoot them down.
    With Predator UAVs, the U.S. has plausible deniability, for now, and can continue to pay lip service to Pakistan’s protests about having their sovereignty violated.
    If Pakistan gets upset about the UAVs, the PAF can shoot some down and the U.S. doesn’t have to care too much about it because they’re unmanned.

  15. What ever happened to Napalm!! In Nam–they burned those cave dwelling little bastards until they looked like an Maple Leaf weiner at a Baptist picnic! I do however beleive that Pakistan has no control over the T-Ban in that region!!

  16. Realistk, napalm isn’t used anymore due to it’s inherently unstable qualities.
    This is what has replaced napalm:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_77_bomb
    “I do however beleive that Pakistan has no control over the T-Ban in that region”
    Pakistan’s ISI trains, equips, and otherwise supports the Taliban.
    There is even credible proof the the ISI created the Taliban.

  17. Pakistan can’t do allow terrorist groups to use their country as base to attack another, then claim “sovereignty” over the border region, where they have no control; or conveniently say there’s nothing they can do.
    If they can’t take care of this, then they need to get out of the way.

  18. The “Spookie” AC47 gunship is so last century. As far as I know they haven’t use them in a long time. The current version is the “Spectre” AC130 gunship. Same idea except the platform is a C130 Hercules. Way more ammo and bigger guns.

  19. The war is against the political, supremacist ideology of Islam.
    Saudi Arabia, Iran and Pakistan are by far the biggest proponents of it. And exporters of Muslim terrorists.
    Pakistan is playing two sides of the post. In order to keep the billions in aid poured into their economically desolate and moribund economy, they placate the west. All the while, they are and continue to be, and therefore support the Taliban.
    Until western governments and people understand that the trojan horse, so-called ‘religion’ of Islam is a cult, an opposing political ideology against every other form of human management; that it is sedition. Until we understand that it is the enemy and we economically put an end to it, we are all in jeopardy.
    All it takes is confronting and dealing with the foundational truth of what’s in their texts (trilogy) and the actions and sayings of their prophet. Which they have been playing out, consistently for 1400 years.

  20. The Pakistani leaders are so busy dodging terrorist attempt on their lives, they don’t have time to do anything but hide under their desks and write memos to the USA for more money. Might as well whack a few of what are their enemies as much as ours.
    The USA might do well to take those kind of actions across their Texas, Arizona, New Mexico borders too. Those Mexican quasi military drug lords are just as deadly to US society is the whacks hiding in Northern Pakistan.

  22. Something to remember about the tribal uplands of Pakistan, government of Pakistan doesn’t run the show there. They barely collect taxes up there. The people who live there are armed to the TEETH due to inter tribal warfare, and manufacture their own guns and ammunition. From scratch. They don’t buy it, they make it.
    So if the Pakistani national army is running around up there, they are doing it in fairly large units with not much help from the locals. Any “news” coming out of the region from the Pakistani side will be -extremely- suspect, propaganda purposes only.

  23. “manufacture their own guns and ammunition. From scratch”
    If you’re talking about flint/percussion lock muskets I believe you, but not copper-coated AK rounds or the springs in the receivers or magazines of automatic weapons.
    There is just no way these yobos could manufacture modern automatics w/o machine tools and metal stamping presses.
    It has been roundly reported that the Taliban were created by the ISI and are trained and supplied by same.

  25. Oz, if you don’t believe Phantom, take a look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HujjuvPiUj4 , or just do a search on youtube for “Darra”; these people produce everything from handguns up to heavy machine guns, most often on antiquated machinery that is no more sophisticated than what you can find in any GARAGE. Gun control laws control guns in exactly the same way that drug control laws control drugs, and unless you want to lobotomize people at birth, that’s never going to change.

  26. I loved this line from Yon’s report:
    “We were not looking for the sniper, but the Brits were attempting to lure the enemy into attacking, and Terry kindly obliged.”
    Terry the Terrist! Very funny!

  27. Pakistan has F16s supplied by the US.
    I’d be surprised if the US planes didn’t have a few extra options on their models.

  29. What exactly about an “assault rifle” is it that makes you think it’s any more difficult to make than any OTHER type of firearm, Oz? An AKM of the type seen in the video is really nothing more than a sheet of thin steel folded into the proper shape, and that makes it considerably EASIER to produce than most other common firearms; also, since they fire a lower-pressure cartridge than a typical hunting-rifle, that means you can get away with using sub-standard materials for a much longer time. The video you should really look at is titled “Pakistan’s Gun Market”, and it shows a number of the shops there producing firearms with nothing more than FILES and DRILLS, sometimes with a little bit of “that seems right to me”-style “heat treating”. The Cao Dai in Vietnam did the same thing, and the only one you’re fooling with “Hey, they can’t do that” is yourself.

  31. Oz – the Pakistani’s have made an industry out of reworking guns going back to the Soviet era of Afghanistan. This is at the very least a second generation of gunsmiths that are working on these rifles.

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