Because she jumbles up so many cultural categories, because she is a feminist not in the Yale Gender Studies sense but the How Do I Reload This Thang way, because she is a woman who in style, history, moxie and femininity is exactly like a normal American feminist and not an Abstract Theory feminist; because she wears makeup and heels and eats mooseburgers and is Alaska Tough, as Time magazine put it; because she is conservative, and pro-2nd Amendment and pro-life; and because conservatives can smell this sort of thing — who is really one of them and who is not — and will fight to the death for one of their beleaguered own; because of all of this she is a real and present danger to the American left, and to the Obama candidacy.
She could become a transformative political presence.
So they are going to have to kill her, and kill her quick.
And it’s going to be brutal. It’s already getting there.
we have our own moonbats, who form time to tome, have theri polls go terribly wrong
from CTV
“This teen pregnancy tale is shaking up the Republican convention. What do you call it?
Interesting diversion 1236 votes (13 %)
Serious issue 1070 votes (11 %)
None of our business 7186 votes (76 %)
Total Votes: 9492
Past Polls:
The personal attacks on Palin, the really over the top ones confuse me. Yes, they do make me more curious about her. A lot of people will tune in to her speech tonight, many of whom wouldn’t have bothered, but now want to see what the fuss is all about.
Count me in that group.
Criticism is normal. Obama has been severely criticized, from his church membership, to his lack of experience, to his leftist worldview. Attacks on his POTUS eligibility, or his brother in Africa, to me are offside, as are attacks surrounding Palin’s pregnant teenage daughter.
I have a theory. The leftists hardcore of the Democrats, the Moore faction for lack of a better term intensely dislike white conservative men, because of their widely differing viewpoints.
But, a black, latino, woman is expected to conform to the Moore faction’s worldview, so special disdain/hatred is deserved for them, as if they are traitors to the cause.
That’s what I’m seeing with the Palin treatment. The problem is, she has an appeal, and the left’s furor over her might backfire.
For some reason, they not only hate her, but they, on some irrational level, they fear her. Mark my words, it will be their undoing.
Why does OB talk about her record as a small town mayor, and not about her governorship? Why does he talk about her at all? He should be careful, she is the VP candidate and she has more exectutive/command experience that Obama or Biden put together.
Showing bigotry towards an accomplished woman, just because she doesn’t fit the HRC pro choice model, it suicidal, IMO, in the US, where people are actually allowed to have differing views on abortion.
They’ve convinced themselves they can get her off the ticket. If she is such a lightweight, wouldn’t they want her right where she is, instead of, for example, Joe Lieberman?
Those Democrats seem a strange bunch to me.
It has been predicted, by CBC no less, that more people will be watching her speech tonight than watched Obama the other night. how is that for backfiring big time WOHOO!!!
In Canada, we are never demanding that Dion be removed as leader of opposition because he is such an absolute idiot the Lieberals will never get back into our wallets.
In contrast…the Democrat Lieberals in U.S. are doing everything they can to get rid of their opposition. They are ferociously attacking her and her family.
They say she is a bad choice and a horrible person.
If that was true, why would they not celebrate that McCain chose a beatable VP candidate?
We are celebrating the beatable DION. Yes?
I need to add one more point for balance. When Clinton had his tryst with Monica Lewinsky, the delight on the angry right was palpable. They hated the man’s guts, and would stop at nothing to smear him. It went way beyond differing political beliefs.
IMO, a similar thing is happening WRT Palin, this time on the left.
Just wanted to clarify, irrational hatred and fear of political opponents cuts across ideologies, parties and political cultures.
Having said that, I still don’t get the breadth of attacks on Palin, whom they are transforming into a national figure from a previously unknown Alaskan governor. It’s a big mistake IMO.
Palin is pre-feminist. The type of frontierswoman type that early feminists once eagerly adopted as heroines, like Annie Oakley.
Other proto-feminists like Joan of Arc, Teresa of Avila, etc. were embraced by women looking for role models for generations — until they got tossed off the list by Professional Feminists for being too Christian, too whatever.
That was when feminism was about strong independent personalities, not weak, group think theorizing.
Now Annie Oakley is dismissed as a gun slinger and Indian hater or lord knows what. You never hear feminists praise Marie Curie anymore — after all, she won two Nobel Prizes without applying for a single govt grant!!
Lucille Ball and Gertrude Burg? Greedy capitalists, media moguls and mother figures!!! Plus one was Jewish — boo!
Shirley Muldowney and Amelia Earhardt? Check out those carbon footprints!!
When I was growing up, nascent Second Wave feminism held up all those women as heroines. No more.
It isn’t enough to be a strong woman now. You have to be the proper KIND of strong woman (which usually means being weak, i.e. wanting govt to look after you.)
Think back on the battle fought at this blog over defunding special govt programs for women.
It would be apparent to any sane person that Kate (who has been photographed with a buck she shot, and in front of her motorcycle) would have been held up as a heroine by our Professional Feminist opponents — that is, BEFORE they made the mistake of going to university and having their brains washed.
College makes you stupid. It really is that simple.
From the linked article, the money quote:
Maybe more people will watch Palin than Obama, but when you consider the number of Democrats looking for fodder that may not be a good thing for the Republicans.
I wonder what the conservative take would be if Obama had picked someone who has fired two chiefs of police for not doing the politically correct thing. In Wassila, she fired the chief because he clamped down on rowdy bars, owned by her contributors. At the state level, … well, that’s still under investigation and how her top former aide is refusing to testify, having previously promised to do so.
Pregnant teens? As Gov, Palin reduced funding to a program that supported teen mothers. Consistent? About as consistent as her original support for the bridge to nowhere that has now become opposition to that project.
Caps and shouting intentional…
TO ALL THOSE PEOPLE TOUTING THIS ARTICLE, DID YOU MISS THE PART WHERE NONOON CONTRADICTED ITS ESSENCE AND SELF-DESTRUCTED IN FRONT OF A LIVE MIC TODAY?
Cjunk, if you want something better to post here, try this.
“College makes you stupid. It really is that simple”
But not going to college leaves you mired in a stagnant, angry at all those people with college degrees who are making so much more of their lives, not to mention money. Degrees facilitate careers, though this does admittedly depend on the kind of degree you have. A Bachelor of Engineering is worth tonnes more than an MA in English. So lets avoid the sweeping generalizations- college does not make you stupid (Feminist studies and English lit and Art history probably do).
I would rather have a degree in todays world, than not. Its international currency.
David, please provide links to back up your allegations. I understand she has denied involvement in these affairs. She is entitled to presumption of innocence, especially against unfounded rumours.
But, by all means, show us your evidence. I think your bridge to nowhere criticism is going nowhere too.
In any event, this would not justify the personal attacks, and your silly comment about birth control.
Moosesh*t, David. You need to learn how to use the internet. Palin didn’t reduce any funding – she reduced a special appropriation for a planned expansion of Covenant House in Anchorage from 5 mill to 3.9 mill in one particular year. That’s called “fiscal balance”. NO funds actually used for assistance were touched, and in fact 3.9mil additional was actually provided in the year in question. Now, how did I know that and you didn’t? Because, I use the internet, and WaPo doesn’t.
Drivebys don’t wash here. It only makes you look like more of an idiot.
Now, what I came to post:
First teasers about Palin’s speech tonight are up at hotair. This is juicy:
“…guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a ‘community organizer,’ except that you have actual responsibilities. … ”
THAT’s GOING TO LEAVE A MARK.
originalpechanga on September 3, 2008 at 7:25 PM
LOL!
The problem with quoting Noonan’s WSJ article is that she herself doesn’t believe it.
Today this candid, off-camera exchange between Peggy Noonan and former John McCain adviser, Time columnist, and MSNBC contributor Mike Murphy became public:
“Peggy Noonan: Yeah.
Mike Murphy: You know, because I come out of the blue swing state governor world: Engler, Whitman, Tommy Thompson, Mitt Romney, Jeb Bush. I mean, these guys — this is how you win a Texas race, just run it up. And it’s not gonna work. And —
PN: It’s over.
MM: Still McCain can give a version of the Lieberman speech to do himself some good.
CT: I also think the Palin pick is insulting to Kay Bailey Hutchinson, too.
PN: Saw Kay this morning.
CT: Yeah, she’s never looked comfortable about this —
MM: They’re all bummed out.
CT: Yeah, I mean is she really the most qualified woman they could have turned to?
PN: The most qualified? No! I think they went for this — excuse me– political bullshit about narratives —
CT: Yeah they went to a narrative.
MM: I totally agree.
PN: Every time the Republicans do that, because that’s not where they live and it’s not what they’re good at, they blow it.
MM: You know what’s really the worst thing about it? The greatness of McCain is no cynicism, and this is cynical.
CT: This is cynical, and as you called it, gimmicky.
MM: Yeah.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/03/peggy-noonan-mike-murphy_n_123647.html
Even the truest and most dyed-in-the-wool Republicans are privately admitting that the Sarah Palin VP nomination is a disaster. That tells you something.
Covenant House? The joint built by a Catholic priest who turned out to be a perv?
You know the lefties are desperate when they’re calling for REfunding a faith based initiative with THAT pedigree.
Spare me.
David,
Re “reduced funding to a program that supported teen mothers”
2007: Covenant House get $1.3 million from the Alaska Government. They request $10 million for 2009. Legislature approves $5 million. Gov. Palin reduces that to $3.9 million.
“Stupid bitch slashed that funding by -200%. Send her back to the kitchen where she belongs.”
Moron…
” I still don’t get the breadth of attacks on Palin”
There is no logic to it. It’s emotion. Brought to you by people who think that if they yell long and hard enough their cherished beliefs will prevail. If any of Palin’s critics took the time to think this through, they would shut up. Those who don’t and continue to behave stupidly means they are broadly incapable of rational thought, or to put it another way….. drum roll……………DUMB.
Ann Coulter (just to really send the lefty trolls off to retch in the corner):
“…The bien-pensant criticized Palin, saying it’s irresponsible for a woman with five children to run for vice president. Liberals’ new talking point: Sarah Palin: Only five abortions away from the presidency.
They claimed her newborn wasn’t her child, but the child of her 17-year-old daughter. That turned out to be a lie.
Then they attacked her daughter, who actually is pregnant now, for being unmarried. When liberals start acting like they’re opposed to pre-marital sex and mothers having careers, you know McCain’s vice presidential choice has knocked them back on their heels.
But at least liberal reporters had finally found someone their own size to pick on: a 17-year-old girl…”
Meerschaum: There is a huge difference between the Washington beltway and the rest of the world. These were the same folks that were unhappy with McCain when he pulled off his incredible come from behind win. I’m betting on Palin and I believe we will see her rise to the occasion in a couple of hours.
“Even the truest and most dyed-in-the-wool Republicans are privately admitting that the Sarah Palin VP nomination is a disaster. That tells you something.”
In yer dreams…
Because she jumbles up so many cultural categories, because she is a feminist not in the Yale Gender Studies sense…
I’m kinda a bottom line type of guy and what I see is that Palin scares the bajeebes out of the left with their twisted ideology and world view. There will be a huge fight to discredit her — and that’s the bottom line folks, eh…
All the histrionics, shouting and wringing of hands, I think we may be witnessing the labour pains of the birth of America’s first female president… *wink*
Anyone know what time she’s on specifically ?
– dont want to watch the whole convention…
Ordinarily I wouldn’t bother, but because of all the hullabaloo I want to see her speech. I wish her the best.
I asked a consultant who came by our office who lived in the states for a long time (went to Yale or Harvard…) what he thought, gave me as I expected, the standard Democrat line putting her down.
I just smiled and said I thought she was a great pick. He looked befuddled as I thought to myself the democrats just have no idea what they’re in for…
How about John Ibbitson in the Mop and Pail calling the Republican convention a train wreck? Au contraire, to mix metaphors I think they dodged a bullet since Bush didn’t have to give an in-person speech in prime time.
Six articles about Palin in the paper and an editorial.
I’m not crazy about evangelicals having so much influence, but the libs coverage of this woman almost borders on hate crimes. I suppose her greatest crime of all is sending her son to fight in Iraq.
When Demicrats react like this you know there is a hole in the dam leaking votes. Their votes. They were content to use the pregnant daughter as a wedge issue to scare away conservative christian voters from McCain. But now things are murky.
Now they are starting to fear that Sarah will fit the bill just like Harry Truman, a popular go getter who succeeds a sickly president and leaves the in crowd eating dust.
darn republicans, they done stole ma spotlight . -B.Hussein Obama
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/09/excerpts_of_sarah_palins_remar.php
The more the left continues to spread its frantic anti-female filth directed at This Lady. It will just get worse for them. The true face of the left has shown itself. Hard to do a make over now after the insanity since the pick. I mean who would want these shrieking liars inventing these misogynistic views of her & other Ladies like her to run anything. Not being a Women I have no idea how this is playing out to them. Seems to me the most vitriolic attacks have come from that sector of society. Me, I think she’s fine. There is some real promise for some good treaty’s we desperately need. Like water & continental energy usage plan. The rest is left inspired hysterics. Let the busybodies show what they are made of, its to alls benefit just how unreasonable, if not treacherous they are.
I think one reporter had it right.2008 was the year Journalism died. The bias is a vortex no one can miss.
Live streaming of the speeches is happening here:
http://tinyurl.com/6bcm65
for those who don’t get it on TV.
Meerschaum @ 7:43 Pegy Noonan has just explained her remarks and it’s not at all the way the Huffinton Post would have you believe. Not at all.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122044753790594947.html?mod=rss_opinion_main
Noonan comes back to post what was said, and meant….to clarify internet rumors:
http://online.wsj.com/article/declarations.html
“Well, I just got mugged by the nature of modern media, and I wish it weren’t my fault, but it is. Readers deserve an explanation,……
Wednesday afternoon, in a live MSNBC television panel hosted by NBC’s political analyst Chuck Todd, and along with Republican strategist Mike Murphy, we discussed Sarah Palin’s speech this evening to the Republican National Convention. I said she has to tell us in her speech who she is, what she believes, and why she’s here. We spoke of Republican charges that the media has been unfair to Mrs. Palin, and I defended the view that while the media should investigate every quote and vote she’s made, and look deeply into her career, it has been unjust in its treatment of her family circumstances, and deserved criticism for this.
When the segment was over and MSNBC was in commercial, Todd, Murphy and I continued our conversation, talking about the Palin choice overall. We were speaking informally, with some passion — and into live mics. An audio tape of that conversation was sent, how or by whom I don’t know, onto the internet. And within three hours I was receiving it from friends far and wide, asking me why I thought the McCain campaign is “over”, as it says in the transcript of the conversation. Here I must plead some confusion. In our off-air conversation, I got on the subject of the leaders of the Republican party assuming, now, that whatever the base of the Republican party thinks is what America thinks. I made the case that this is no longer true, that party leaders seem to me stuck in the assumptions of 1988 and 1994, the assumptions that reigned when they were young and coming up. “The first lesson they learned is the one they remember,” I said to Todd — and I’m pretty certain that is a direct quote. But, I argued, that’s over, those assumptions are yesterday, the party can no longer assume that its base is utterly in line with the thinking of the American people. And when I said, “It’s over!” — and I said it more than once — that is what I was referring to. I am pretty certain that is exactly what Todd and Murphy understood I was referring to. In the truncated version of the conversation, on the Web, it appears I am saying the McCain campaign is over. I did not say it, and do not think it. In fact, at an on-the-record press symposium on the campaign on Monday, when all of those on the panel were pressed to predict who would win, I said that I didn’t know, but that we just might find “This IS a country for old men.” That is, McCain may well win. I do not think the campaign is over, I do not think this is settled, and did not suggest, back to the Todd-Murphy conversation, that “It’s over.”
Shaidle
So Covenant House does no good work and shouldn’t be funded, huh? Deep thinking there.
Palin cut proposed funding to a place that helps care for teenage unwed mothers and their babies. She has a radical antichoice position – that the McCain campaign has decided is useful for them – she’s stated ‘no abortion’ even in the cae of rape.
But the young innocent lives resulting from her position? She doesn’t care so much. Like most of the Right, abortion works as a political issue for her. Their concern for young innocent life obviously isn’t real since they’re on their own once out of the womb. Life ain’t so sacred then!
Dig Noonan’s private comments as opposed to her public column: McCain’s choice of Palin is ‘political bullshit’ that effectively ends his campaign. Haw!
I quite frankly look at Sarah Palin as a WOMAN, a real WOMAN. I also look at her as a bright and articulate woman and mother. Everyone is talking about her abilities, well as far as I am concerned if she can do what she has done to date and run a family with 4 kids she is a hell of a lot more experienced than either of the two entitlement leeches she now faces. It obliviously remains to be seen how she handles the challenge in front of her now, but I’ll bet on Sarah.
Skip – what really rattles the Left is that Palin’s daughter didn’t have the discreet abortion on demand. That’s the affront. It applies to mom and her Down’s Syndrome non-abortion survivor too. And, for pure irony, that’s the same Left that extended all manner of protection to welfare slobs a decade ago having huge broods to milk the welfare system. Suggesting abortion to them or to the Mexican hordes that are overruning our borders and planting themselves here with anchor babies would have been/is racist and attacked immediately.
The sheer depth of lefty hypocrisy is astounding. Their morality is based on an ethics of political convenience only so it’s always negotiable.
Also a good feed here,
http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN_wm.aspx
but firefox needs the media player 11 plug-in
From the article – Kellyanne Conway…”We are a nation of Wasillas, not Chicagos.” The ‘bubbleheads’ lose sight of this but apparently McCain did not. His stomping of the obamabounce caused a massive shift in the election. I think we are watching the first female President take the national stage. And it is making the left crazy that it’s a Republican Lady.
The CBC and specifically Neil Mcdonald need to answer for reporting the vile ranting from the daily kos as if it were news. I watched their national broadcasts last few nights and there is no excuse for that man and my TAXPAYER SUPPORTED network to repeat those foul attacks on Mrs. Palin and her family.
Judging by the flak, I would have to say John McCain was right on the target.
Hey head over to Cjunk, great liveleak video with Newt.
A snippet from Governor Palin’s speech tonight…
“In politics, there are some candidates who use change to promote their careers. And then there are those like John McCain, who use their careers to promote change.” Hmmm can’t imagine who she’s talking about there but it sounds really really good.
Real, go away – you’re too slow a learner for this site (or for the real world it seems). (That btw, was an ad hominem attack. Its latin, means “toward the man”.
http://wthrockmorton.com/2008/09/03/sarah-palin-did-not-slash-funds-for-teen-mothers/
“Contrary to a report from the Washington Post, Alaska Governor, Sarah Palin, did not slash funding for a program for teen mothers…..”
“In Alaska, the governor is allowed to reduce spending allocations in the service of sound management and fiscal accountability. To prove his contention that Palin slashed funds for teen mothers, Kane produced the Alaska 2008 budget with Sarah Palin’s line by line adjustments. It is true that lawmakers allocated 5 million to Covenant House Alaska and that Mrs. Palin cut that allocation to 3.9 million dollars. However, what is misleading about the Post headline is that the allocation of 3.9 million is three times more than Covenant House Alaska received from government grants in 2007. According to records on the Covenant House Alaska website, the organization received just over 1.3 million dollars from grants in 2007 and nearly 1.2 million in 2006. Even with the reductions, Governor Palin signed a budget which provided three times more funds than the organization received in 2007.”
I think real/haye/new is stupid, as in unintelligent. Not that there’s anything wrong with that per se, but the more intellectually inclined here find it…well…stupid and a waste of time. Maybe he/she/it would find it more stimulating playing in some other sandbox. I’m just sayin’
“It’s over!”
Which is funnier — Noonan’s unguarded slagging of the Palin pick as an insult to Kay Bailey Hutchinson, or her Chewbacca Defense that she was, like, totally thinking about one thing and accidentally said something else?
Don’t waste your time BB, Real has already had that explained to him(?)three times already. A terminally thick troll.
David Warren has an interesting opinion on this very issue in a new essay.
http://davidwarrenonline.com/
real,
Cut proposed funding??? What the hell kind of standard is that? If an agency asks for a 800% increase in funding and the politician making the final decision gives them a 200% increase that counts as cutting???!!!
Try actually reading Peggy Noonan’s comments on the leaked live mic incident. She didn’t say that this effectively kills McCain’s campaign. Not even close. She said she hates it when the Republicans try to run a campaign in a particular way. Fair enough.
Your suggestion that people on the right stop caring about people after they’re born is a tired and slanderous trope and beneath contempt. What evidence do you have beyond that fact that they don’t have faith in the particular set of government programs so beloved of the left?
Nice of the neighborhood misogynist to show up for some light evening trolling.
Anyway, the left is terrified of this woman. When your only defense is spewing out vitriol which is at complete odds with your own screaming position over the last 18 months, it’s time to call a doctor, not a ‘community organizer’. They’ve lost their minds (if that is possible).
You know what is strange, and maybe I’m wrong, but has anyone heard of Hillary Clinton and her reaction to Sarah Palin? Has she said a word?
Has she said anything about the MSM vicious attacks against Palin?
Has she made any comment at all?
Real, please lay off the ‘political bullshit’ as you call it. Goveernor Palin approved an increase in funding of the halfway house. It was not as much as they had requested, but it was a considerable increase over what they had been previously allocated. You did write ‘cut proposed spending’ so you can’t be called a lier, but the whole point of the post was to leave a false idea, wasn’t it?
Clean up at 8.17, please – “new” is spewing. THIS “they talk about her because she and her family are BIT**ch like most of normal Canadian and US woamn are BIT***” is beyond the bounds of public discourse.
spell check, pardon.
This is a brilliant move by the Republicans.
Create a distraction and hope all the attention shifts away from the real issue’s.
What else would expect from eight awful years of republican rule?