For, instead of having published The Satanic Verses in Margaret Thatcher’s England, he might have unwisely chosen Trudeaupia: 2008 for the release of his novel, and thus found himself dragged from hiding and delivered to his would-be executioners through the force of a human “rights” tribunal dictate to account for his blasphemy.
Whoops! Did I just commit stereotype?
And by every indication, this sorry waste of skin would have been skipping along at the heels of the pack, cheering the “human rights” process towards its logical conclusion[1].
So, I believe the time has come to challenge to this self-described Liberal “ass kicker”. Mr. Kinsella – how many more hours must pass before you publicly add the name Mike Duffy to your growing list of neo-Nazi sympathizers?
We’ll wait while you search for your balls.
Footnote:
[1] I’m stumped. What child’s toy goes best with “Danny Pearl was not a documentary”?
Damn. Damn-it-all to hell. I just visited Kansuckyou’s sight. PO going in for new work computer right now. This one has been irretrievably screwed.
Aren’t we all so glad the Religion of Pukes is sooooo tolerant?
Excellent point made. Good thing the HRC can*t act retroactively.
They would have to call Sir Winston Churchill onto the carpet for writings very similar to Rushdie*s. = TG
I got one thing out of Mike Duffy on Adler today.
It’s over. Warren, Dion, the Liberanos, the HRCs. all are dust.
Harper majority, Liberals wiped out, socialists disgraced. Or it really is over.
ZING !!
ZING !!
Can’t post over at the urinal photographer’s place.
Of course Liberal Party hacks would like MP Keith Martin canned – for being too reasonable.
Doctors !? No way !! We all know a HR panel of party hacks is far more qualified than a surgeon when it comes to patient care.
Can’t post over at the urinal photographer’s place.
This is fun watching the hrc’s exposed for the corrupt slimey thing they are. It won’t be long now until the hrc’s are fully dismantled. Kinsella’s nazi hunting days will soon be over. He latched on to the hrc ship, and he is going down with it.
Why is the apostate to be executed in Islam?
Q: As a non Muslim, I find myself Intrigued and attracted to your faith. However, I find it difficult to comprehend how a man can be sentenced to death for speaking( Salman Rushdie). I would have thought that we as humans do not have that right to make those decisions, only god can?
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A: ……In conclusion, the answer is that Allaah is the One Who revealed this religion and enjoined it. He is the One Who ruled that the one who enters it and then leaves it is to be executed. This ruling does not come from the Muslims’ ideas or suggestions. As this is the case, then we must follow the ruling of Allaah so long as we are content to accept Him as our Lord and God.
May Allaah help us and you to do that which He loves and which pleases Him. We thank you once again…..
http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/20327
JM, this is the focal point of religion that always amazes me. If your god, allah, is so powerful and all knowing then why doesn’t he himself kill you for crossing his laws. Oh no, it is for his followers to “keel you” as they are his servants and know exactly what this invisible and unresponding god thinks and are acting on his behalf.
islam is truly the religion of death and we are fools for allowing its followers to flood the west. In yesterday’s news the 4 most popular boy’s name are muslim ones in Naples and the town leaders are worried. Mark Steyn was absolutely right in his demographic projections.
fortunately our life spans are quite short. the islam thing has been going on for 1400 years and will be going on for 1400 more and all of us who rail against this evil cult will no doubt die a natural death. there will be many who will have to fight physically and it may come to that here. what would you do if you had to kill to survive and live free?
what would you do if you had to kill to survive and live free?
Easy, live free or die!
bruce
As much as I disagree with Warren K on this issue you need to take his using seriously, in the sense that you watch what an opponent does.
This position is a difficult one to hold because the cheap point is made so easily. The cheap point being that nasty speech is something the majority of people never do, or think. So the cheap and easy point is that you agree with them.
He has been pushing that line, and I wouldnt be surprised if they went on radio with some of their defenders funding them.
However the point the Commissionista’s and Tribunalists and Thought Controllers want have trouble defending is their violations of legal rights and protections, often called human rights, in pursuit of their quarry.
For the life of me I dont get why Warren isnt focussed on salvaging the objective rather than trying to salvage a process he himself has admitted is broken.
I guess when you are paid to do something you do that rather what you believe. How very Punk of him.
Yesterday on Mike Duffy’s program, Joy McPhail (former BC NDP leader) said that the Human Rights case was “not resonating at all in B.C.” She was obviously very uncomfortable being asked to comment because it was the BC NDP government that brought in the Human Rights Tribunal/Committee and appointed a lesbian activist as the chairman.
Yesterday on Mike Duffy’s program, Joy McPhail (former BC NDP leader) said that the Human Rights case was “not resonating at all in B.C.” She was obviously very uncomfortable being asked to comment because it was the BC NDP government that brought in the Human Rights Tribunal/Committee and appointed a lesbian activist as the chairman.
Kinsella’s website still lists the totalitarian mass murder Lenin as one of his heroes which strongly suggests to me that he hates Canada.
abcd
The Bolshevik revolution was a kangaroo court that murdered 15-20 million ethnic Orthodox Christian Russians lead by Lenin,Trotsky and others. Now you understand the sock puppet better.
I can only assume libertarian free speechers must be utterly disillusioned over the Harper government’s decision not participate in “Durban II” for fears it will again degenerate into a public hatefest. Funny though I haven’t heard many condemning this as a reprehensible attack on freedom of expression by our conservative government. I guess publicly spewing hatred best suits right wing libertarians when white people are the perpetrators. Will none of them stand up for a Palestinian’s right to freely express his hatred of Jews?
I guess not. In their warped logic, like their blind faith in “the invisible hand” of the market, Reason will ultimately prevail in the marketplace of unregulated free expression, but since they construct the Muslim as barbaric and not capable of Reason, then the unlimited right of expression should not be extended to him. Or is this already going too deep into the twisted logic? In truth they may well be guided simply by visceral reactive hatred. If I’m wrong, then they should condemn the Harper government for boycotting the conference on the grounds that we wouldn’t approve of what we’d hear there.
Intelligent people, such as Stephen Harper, have no “fears” “Durban II” “will again degenerate into a public hatefest”, it IS a public hatefest.
Ignorant lefties may want to chat with any and all, but rational intelligent people recognize when it is utterly inappropriate and futile to sit down at certain tables. In fact, acknowledging their existance gives legitimacy to the underserving. So calling it a “reprehensible attack on freedom of expression by our conservative government” would be really stupid.
Also, by the way, faith in “the invisible hand” of the market is not “warped logic” or “blind faith”, it is crystal clear and rational, supported by abundant factual data. Calling it “warped logic” or “blind faith” would be really stupid.
“Really stupid”, “really stupid”, do you see a pattern developing here Mr Stewart?
Bill Stewart – no one is stopping you from participating in Durban II, so I fail to see the freedom of expression issue. The fact that a rational government has refused to give legitimacy to a raving mob of hate-filled morons shows moral fibre, something the left does not possess in its meek surrender to the forces of hate for fear of offending.
And for what it’s worth, the free market of ideas is working well – intelligent people are staying away from repugnant ideas.
Stewart types: “I guess publicly spewing hatred best suits right wing libertarians when white people are the perpetrators. Will none of them stand up for a Palestinian’s right to freely express his hatred of Jews?”
It was my understanding that Palestinians considered themselves “white”. I have a book right here, written by a Palestinian immigrant to the USA, where he casually refers to himself as a “white man”. It is only the racist and fascist political left who are obsessed with racial categories, warping and twisting race, constantly raising race as an issue, to serve their political purposes.
“Footnote:
[1] I’m stumped. What child’s toy goes best with “Danny Pearl was not a documentary”?”
The Behead-Me-ElMo?
Kinsella probably hasn’t noticed the overwhelming support for the reform of the HRCs especially from the liberal left rights crowd. Too busy trolling for photos in boys washrooms.
Bill Stewart, neither Canada, the Harper Government nor the Conservatives are IN ANY WAY censoring or preventing the hatemongers from spewing their venom…therefore, their freedom of speech is NOT being infringed upon.
Canada, the Harper Government and the Conservatives are doing what anyone can and should do when faced with speech they are offended at: they refuse to listen to it and condemn it as bigotted and hateful. Please note that they HAVE NOT taken the UN to a Human Rights Commission to shut them up.
Get a clue.
“Footnote:
[1] I’m stumped. What child’s toy goes best with “Danny Pearl was not a documentary”?”
The pregnant widow barbie doll.
“It’s over. Warren, Dion, the Liberanos, the HRCs. all are dust.”
Like hell they are! Don’t indulge in wishful thinking and delude yourself that everyone else agrees with you.
With Barack Obama possibly the next U.S President, Libera/NDP supporters are going to be working fiendishly hard to create a North American utopia.
We had best prepare for a bitter, nasty fight, and make damned sure we get every single conservative we know to support Harper next election.
To those disappointed Conservative voters, I’d say, if you’re disappointed in the current Conservative government, consider the alternative, and if THAT doesn’t give you nightmares, nothing will.
I am not allowed to comment on Kinsella’s site. He heavily sensors comments, so you can imagine what that place would look like of let everyone speak freely about what he says.
But then, he is not for freedom of speech under any circumstances is he? He is a thin-skinned control-freak with nothing left to control. I am enjoying watching him slip further and further into oblivion as he should.
He is a ‘waste of skin’ and I love when Kate states on her blog. I am sure she is causing at commie bastard a stomach ache. I anticipate the day when he finally vanishes completely in the quicksand of irrelevant Liberalism.
The Islamic countries participating in the hate fest, ‘Durban II’, have rejected the UN’s universal declaration of human rights. They preach the gospel of their prophet and the Quran that Jews are the sons of apes and pigs. They preach Mohammad’s words that the last days will not come until the Muslims have murdered all the Jews.
You are a filthy racist Mr. Stewart, if you agree to participate in any forum on so-called ‘human rights’ with monsters that abide by an ideology of hate like that.
Hey, Bill, Harpers absence from the notorious organized hatefest at Durban II won’t effect the international press coverage. It’s going to be there without or without Harper. So, how’s Harper keeping Canadians from hearing anything from Durban?
I guess publicly spewing hatred best suits right wing libertarians when white people are the perpetrators. Will none of them stand up for a Palestinian’s right to freely express his hatred of Jews?
Could anything be more moronic than a plea for equality of hate and a level playing field?
What poor Bill overlooks is that it is very difficult for the average white guy hater to reach parity with his Palestinian hater counterpart. He can’t easily get grant money for suicide belts and rocket launchers. He can’t deduct them under capital depreciation on his income taxes. Zoning laws are another hurdle. Home Depot is useless when the equipment needs repair. And, then, there’s the social aspect, no one at the neighborhood bar will be cheering him when he make a direct hit on a school or pizza parlor. So, Bill, that’s probably why there are, well, zero, white guy haters on a parity with Palestinians haters. Sorry, we let you down.
“Ass-kickers” like him have over-developed egos that will not permit them to ever admit they were wrong. They just cannot do it. I put David Suzuki and Al Gore in the same category. Stubborn as hell, they will not give an inch even though they look like fools and the evidence is staring them in the face.
Kind of like the Fonze who could not say “Sorry”. Only Warren isn’t that cool.
Patrick Kinsella is in deep sh.. er quicksand here in B.C. as per the early CBC news.
These Kinsella*s seem to gain prominence through messing up in public view. = TG
I wouldn’t break out the Champaign and celebrate the demise of the sock puppet to early. He will be a thorn for some time. He has some many connected friends and let’s say share in the same goals. There are two competing camps in the world today who seek world domination. One is Islam to make the world into a Caliphate. The other a world government through Marxism. The depressing part is western European democracy is being torn to shreds by these two camps. I won’t say who the other camp is but our communist sock puppet has already given you a few clues. One was his admiration for Lenin and the other was the video he had on his web site “kill the white man” History is written by the victors. It would be wise for conservatives not to put all there eggs into one basket and look at past history a little more closely.
The Behead-Me-ElMo?
Posted by: Sean
Heh, yep and I’ll wager their pick a of representative ‘toy’ would be a barbie doll dressed as a hooker – or a hollywierd and or some tv sleazy type (- much the same to me…so take ‘yer pick…) saying “I’m sorry I hurt your feelings” as her head pops offs.
Perfect toy for the ROPers that want us (western woman) all to hide ourselves or be killed if we don’t conform to THEIR beliefs.
A method of defense and at the same time, exposure of the HRC’s. Afterall, the HRC trials are nothing more than a stage.
Your Honour,
If, hypothetically speaking, I were to say that:
“Muslims are the vilest of animals…”
“Show mercy to one another, but be ruthless to Muslims”
“How perverse are Muslims!”
“Strike off the heads of Muslims, as well as their fingertips”
“Fight those Muslims who are near to you”
“Muslim mischief makers should be murdered or crucified”
Would that not be considered the vilest of hate speech, inciting violence and murder?
Then why have you and your Canadian human rights cohorts allowed this hate literature to pour into Canada? Not only that, you are allowing it to be preached everyday and taught to children. Furthermore, this hate literature has been proven to incite violence, rape and murder throughout history, to the present day.
The hate speech in question is contained in the Quran.
Sura (8:55) – Surely the vilest of animals in Allah’s sight are those who disbelieve
Sura (48:29) – Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves
Sura (9:30) – And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah… Allah (Himself) fights against them. How perverse are they!
Sura (8:12) – I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them
Sura (9:123) – O you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness
Sura (5:33) – The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement
Is it any wonder that you and your so-called tribunals are anything but defenders of human rights? That you are in fact violating human rights and the charter? That you are indeed supporting an ideology that is blatantly racist, bigoted and that incites people to violence?
At that point, leave the room and seed the video to the internet.
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On another note, I wonder if Steyn will take Elmasry and the sock puppets to real court, accuse them of hate, slander and libel that has caused death threats against himself and his family? I wonder.
To the commenter regarding Palestinians and hate speech… of course a Palestinian can speak freely.
An exploding ball-bearing pack, however, is not “speech”. Are we clear on that?
why you insist to change law of Islam and talk and made them angry
why you are enjoy this?
on other hand Muslim think you are
bunch of adult XXX movie watcher
and your woman sleep with too many men before marriage
and you have too many affair not pay your child support
and you are bunch of drunker
all of you in opposite with Muslim culture
why not let them go their way and you do all above said
why you like to talk about Mohamad their prophet and their Islam and Muslim and ther holy book and made htem upset
just leave Muslim alone
you go and sleep near beaches and watch your women
you go your way and they go other way
complet seperae
we even like to built the buss
like Muslim in back and non Mulim in front
becausee muslim not like to talk to you at all
becaused Muslim not like you do not get it!!!
do not talk about 3 things:
Mohamad( or other propeht of god) – Isalam( Muslim) – holy book of Quran( soreh)
most of you in this blogs are not even practice Jewish or christ god as well
I can promise mose you not go to church even
then leave Muslim pray god
at the end of day all thing done by Muslim
for god lover
you are not god lover
peopel who love god not bother other human being
Muslim and NonMuslim are so different in practice
but all religion are similar in main frame
do not wake up extremist since in each relgion we hav extremist
some poeple love god and think god is order to belive Mohamad and you disobey Mohamad and they can not handle your abuse in your blogs
jsut leave Muslim alone go find other topic enjoy your days
at least let peope are not extemst are respct you and come in office and say hello
the environement you will create
in soon Muslim not even say hello to nonMuslim
then stop it.
“do not talk about 3 things:
Mohamad( or other propeht of god) – Isalam( Muslim) – holy book of Quran( soreh)”
Mohammed. Islam. Quran.
Shove it.
Notice that lib WK did not address the issues that Macleans, steyn, Coyne, Levant are fighting for – freedom, security, quality of life, freedom of speech, freedom of expression ?
Nope – just spin it, twist it, use it as a tool(ad) to get the libs back in power. It is how they play the game. He has even bragged as much – is the reason libs are good at winning.
Compare that attitude with the bigness of MP Keith Martin.
HRC 13, a useful lib spin tool.
Same for sponsorship.
Same for Quebec separatism.
Same for religous schools.
Same for wage and price controls.
Same for global warming.
Same for NEP.
Same for gun control.
Same for harm reduction centres.
As stand alone issues – loosers, without a compliant media.
It’s very simple, haye. If you don’t like the way we do things here in Canada, go home. Just go home. Everyone will be happy then.
RM
Canada never did such things as I witness so long
Canadian usually are famous for nice and kind and polite people
this hidden potential energry taht try to get themselves shape in Canada is recently under people as we see pay people to made thos story
this is my home I do not need to go else wher
if you do not like humran right commision
and if you do not like disrimination law in Canada
it is better you go
sicne you are the one ask in court explain why you siad those hate crime against Muslim not
me?
may be the good idea is this if people notlike Canada law and flag and righ for Muslim in Canada
they are the one must leave Canada
as we can see most of you in blog saying
we are shame of our country I saw at least 4 people said that
then you better go and find new place to live to give freedom to say wih no limit
in Canada every thing has limit
you do your job we do ours
not like step back
not like do not talk and close your mouth
not like do not write about it
as simple as it is
as Muslim agreed to stay and not care what you are doing here
we have freedom with some limit and you have freedom with some limit
do not interfer in ours
we do not dam care waht you are doing
god can choose who did the right and who should go to leave go to Satan way
Haye,
ESL classes.
Please
Thank You.
irwin, I think it is very important that Mark Steyn loses. The worst outcome for Canada is for the tribunal to acquit him with calculated phoney utterances that they’ve examined their past errors and have reformed themselves. The Liberals vested in keeping the CHRC will sigh with relief, the press will wither away as they only have the staying power of a few news cycles, and the CHRC can return to the shadows and bide their time.
I’m betting they will acquit Steyn with nuanced admonitions to the effect that, although he is a filthy racist, their hands are tied. I wouldn’t be surprised if behind the scenes Liberal politicians that want the CHRC to stay in place aren’t pressuring them to acquit.
I probably shouldn’t, but… In a free society we are allowed to talk about many things. We’re free to talk about our faith, or lack of it. We’re free to criticise the Catholic church, or the Mormon church, or any of a host of churches. We’re free to criticise our neighbors’ faith,or lack thereof, or the impact of his or her faith on society, whether that impact be perceived as good or bad. And the subjects of our observations or criticism are free to respond. If our observations make them angry or hurt, well, too bad. Deal with it. Sometimes criticism is unfair, sometimes not. If unfair, it should be responded to with reason and facts, not by running to the state and crying foul. That will only bring a world of hurt to you, as those who succumb to such weakness will open themselves to the scorn of a free society. Freedom is not always pretty, and many find freedom a little chaotic and scary. My suggestion to Muslims who find the freedoms in this country offensive or frightening, is to simply look elsewhere for a home. There are places in this world where you will feel much more at home than you will here, and you may as well raise your family there as here. It is ingenuous, and goes against some of the most basic tenets of your own faith, to accept the hospitality of our culture while struggling to weaken the very freedoms that make it worthwhile. It is ungracious at best, deceitful at worse, and evil at the worst. In the end, many Muslims are asking us to make real sacrifices simply so that they can feel comfortable doesn’t work for us. There’s far too little “give” in the give-and-take, so far.
You may very well be right, Penny.
haye,
You appear to be quite the Islamic scholar. Here’s a couple of questions I hope you can answer:
If Allah is one, with no equal – then why does he speak in the plural “We” throughout the Quran?
Since the Quran claims that Mohammad was the first Muslim and the Quran is the uncreated word of allah, is it not blasphemy to claim that anybody before gentile Mo (the Jewish prophets) were Muslim?
The Quran says that Isa is sinless and blameless. The only other one who is described this way is Allah. Does this not make Isa equal to Allah?
Considering that Mohammad broke every single one of the ten commandments handed down to Moses from God and the Quran claims Moses as a prophet – does this not make Mohammad an unrepentant sinner?
Honesty is the best Policy from Canada writes:
Mark Steyn is bigot used by the Asper family (owners of Macleans)
to spread fear and hate against Muslims
The Aspers make no secret of their support for Israel
Posted 05/06/08 at 9:34 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
Global magazine
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080605.wbc-maclean06/CommentStory/National/home#comment2114060
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that is it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if above said is correct you can immagine
then Mark Styen intentionaly try to disoby Canada law and follow Isreal law for his boss order and happiness
if you see this example taht some muslim also may contacted to some fund or pay fund to terrorist to do illegal in Canada goverment arrest them
since Canada built the rules and based that rules
peopel choose to obey those rules and listen to it
now if you go to people who get fund to write hate crime by use of pen
to made Canada place to start all war
since America war started in middle Easte
Canada become high since too many american loved to resident in Cnada for safty and this is built more money for Canada if peopel think Canada is safe
and people are not going to made second middle east here
but if you act fool and talk like middle easter people and follow their rules in Canada
soon Canada start get divided from people
next goverment like Canada choose ouside fund of isreal to start the war ot stop the war
in every mood or move you must act politically clever if you do not act clever you mad the canada
worth since Canada is not only Middle esat verses Jewish Iselal
if you divided all mutliculture in Canada it beomce internal war here
therefore do not support any body unless you know how his or her bank account get fill off
even presnet of America is only are toys
you msut see who is behind of American presindet to tell them do or do not !!
law is law we must obey by it
if Canada law say do not say this Mr. Mark guy do not say it if he like to say it is better to change counry go to Isreal and get fund to write in other counry not in Canada
Government and RCMP need to follow bank account of all hate crime group is only mass follower of one person by mistake like the lamb
or the person get fund from source like to increase illegal act here
on other hand Global also like to put Mclean donw for competiton as well
but we must know detail of source to judge the political
what direction at the end those leader who like free speech try to bring you
taht is not free speech call Muslim are insects in big Mclean magazine come on wake up guys!!
who hate Muslim alot and why?
you are not gain talk bad about Muslim and you can not change law of Islam tehn why you waste your time here
you can talk about other fait but not offend them by start saying listen your propeht is adultry man as Soman Roshady said
or Mark Styen said you are inscets
you have free to say your opinin but limit of talk
do you like some one come to your home and start break glasses that is your home
you feel the smae Canadas is your home we do not like like Isreal or AMerican here this is Canada
think Muslim love their religion and not like you just start by say some thing with no clue therre si way to say
shut up and be quiet are the same meaning but are two differnet way of say the things
say some one listen to you not bring to your court and ask you under oath say where is your income collected from
when you go to court more detail will get investigate
then do not go to court if you are not strong
you will get jail if you lied before jduges you should respect judge if you do not clam judge has right to get you out of your own court out and only your lawuyer can stay
then behave well in court if you need to go to human right commison court
follow Canada law not Isreal or America or middle eastern law
The day that victims groups hold themselves up to the same standards as their opponents is the day I’ll start believing their protests.
The complainants in BC did not prove hate speech or hate crime. They just proved that not everyone agrees with Steyn and that some unidentified posters somewhere in the world do not like Muslims. That can not possible be the new standard for determining hate speech.
haye,
“taht is not free speech call Muslim are insects in big Mclean magazine come on wake up guys!!”
You have wrong. Steyn didn’t say Muslims were insects. It was one of your Imams who lives and preaches the lunacy of Islam in Norway.
Steym merely quoted him when the Imam stated. (not verbatim) “We don’t have to beat you in a war, we muslims are breeding like mosquitoes, we will simply outnumber you”
And that … you brain-washed buffoon, is precisely the point of Mr. Steyn’s book “America Alone”. The demographic growth in Islam is a simple fact and not Western propaganda nor some kind of insult. You are all so sensitive. I do wish you would all just go home if you don’t like us. North America is not Europe. We will not let you get as far as you did there already.
And the “Mosquito” reference has nothing to do with the fact that you spend so much in Mosques.
The first muslim is Mohamad
book god is for people and propeht of god is messenger from god to people
Muslim bleive teh Jesis perfected more detail of rules tahn Moses to people and Mohamade is perfected teh Jeses
is like class 1 and class 2 and class 3
Muslim belive book of holy enjil of Jeses is get some changed is not all origin he said
Muslim are not bleive jesis is son of god
Muslim are not belive 3 god some brach of Christian say it
we belive god is one the person create human
we do belive jesis is human creat by god
we belive it was god orderd Mary got pregrant and had the child called jesis
we belive 89% we have sarah called ‘Maryam’
in Quran describe about Mary and Jeises
we do believe god can give all majic in hand of moses and jesis but still they are not god
we de belive Moses and jesis was sinless
we do not belive that only god is sinless
we do belive if human being respect god order they can becom sinless
we do not belive only prophet is symbol of perfec
if you obey Islam law you can becom sinless and go to heavan
if prophet made the book can not get diploma of humanity to any body tehn teh book if not wrote for human to follow
we do Muslim disagree taht because Jeis is sinless is god or son of the god
god is only one and one power that aboslute
god can do any thing he wish and can mercy or pusnih you
god is god
propeh is propeht
but we have simbole of human who were not prophet but they were sinless
one is Fatemeh of Zahra daughter of prophet mohamad was sinless woman
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mohamad are perfect otehr prophet
for example pork was ban since moses
but if you read ingil is ban too
but recetn christian change the law
but main fram of all religion in humanity is the same
never Prophet mohamad kill innocent person for hate crime and /or revenge
you must go to some resounce to ask who know all wording to tell you more clear than me
god is ONE
you can become Muslim if you say
Ashadon la ilaha illallah
Ashadon mohamaen reasoula al allah
I agree with god is one
and I agree with Mohamd is propeht of allah
then you must obey his rules though
Muslim has the same respect for moses than jesis
most muslim has name of moses for their son more than jesis for their son in Arab country for love of moses
muslim love jeisis and moses and resepct them they are prophet of god with the same sinless and messagner of god and allah
first educated your self before you come to conclusion