A reader emails, clearly moved by the tragedy of Egypt’s apartheid wall ;
Loved the picture in the Globe and Mail showing all those poor starving Gazans returning home from Egypt carrying carpets. They must know something about nutrition that the western world does not.
“High in Fiber”
LOL moment of the day.
Carpet wrapped stinger missiles?
The carpets ALL have the same pattern and do NOT flop over – Yup! They’re identifiable shipping containers.
They’re not carpets. They’re missile launchers covered in carpet.
Not to forget all the mega-cartons of cigarettes the Pals took back.
I’m serious there. Why are only women carrying the “carpets”? Less likely to be searched? And these women all bought the same pattern?
One could call them carpet “baggers”.
I blame Karl Rove.
Hiya John West,
Yes, thats what life in Gaza is all about. Missiles and Rocket launchers. And they re all terrorists.
While we re playing around with stereotypes, hows life in rural BattFack SK – are you still married, to your Sister? Or did you divorce her and marry your mother instead? And what did you end up doing with that sheep that turned you into a man?
What? I thought incest was as common in redneck areas as terrorists are in the Middle East.
Could they be flying carpets to get around the evil joooooows security wall?
This issue is not well understood, least of all by me. I didn’t even know that an Arab state like Egypt had put up a wall to keep out Palestinians. Jimmy Carter didn’t mention this when he ranted about Israel committing apartheid when building a wall to do the same thing. I’m confused.
pat-e-tic
I don’t live in Sask. I live on the East Coast of beautiful Vancouver Island in a luxurious west coaster with lots of glass and a great view of the ocean and mountains.
I am not married to a member of my own family. I have a lovely wife who is good looking, very smart and has a very high paying job as I do.
We are bother healthy and good looking people. We have a few good friends and lot’s of money to spend on good times. We could retire anytime, but we both like our jobs and are a bit greedy so we will continue working for awhile longer before picking up a nice condo in Panama.
I personally don’t think everyone in the Middle East is a terrorist, but there are many and they have many supporters. We cannot tell them apart, so much conclude that any of them is a possible terrorist and should be regarded with suspicion. That is a realism that you are probably not capable of understanding.
Your comment attacking me says that you are probably young, idealistic, brain-washed by liberalism. Most likely indulge in self-loathing and envy of others who don’t share your particular psychosis and that are happier an more prosperous than you.
If you are not very young, then you must be incredibly stupid to be putting such posts that accomplish nothing but to let us know how much pain you are in.
Media coverage on the first day they bombed the wall showed hundreds of men fleeing back into Palestine with bags and bags of cigs. I guess cigs are a staple in their diet, ciggy oatmeal, ciggy sandwiches, ciggy hotplate for supper.
LOL the news is lamenting their suffering and starvation and smokes and booze and carpets and motor bikes are what they are shopping for. Not food staples, on the bright side now we know what they’ve used the millions we sent them in aide for. Smokes, booze and area rugs, hay they are like our ladies that consider Welfare a Career Choice (aka refered to as Welfare Hoes).
You suspicious people. Stinger missiles indeed. LOOK at that pattern; those colours. It’s obvious there was a sale on.
The women are the ones carrying the carpets because they are the ‘work-horses’ of the Middle East. A good number of the men just sit around all day smoking and trying to figure out who they hate the most.
I guess cigarettes are becoming more popular because it’s difficult to slip a 4 foot tall Hooka into your jacket pocket and still look cool.
The sandals don’t help either…
Hiya John West,
Good for you, though I daresay you re overcompensating a bit too much on the “I have lots of money front”. You have nothing to prove to me. I was just seeing if you could take what you were dishing out, and frankly, you can. Good on ya, mate.
Dont worry, I m neither very young, nor a bleeding heart liberal.
Sadly I dont think most people on this board can take what they dish out, and I m quite glad a fellow Canadian has proved me wrong.
Good luck to you.
Kate, I think perhaps Kinsella is on to something when he characterizes you as a bigot. Because these Gazans have returned home with something to put on their floors, does this constitute a denial of the other conditions in their lives? Poverty being one?
And before commentors reduce this to a partisan (me being a liberal or them being conservatives or right wingers etc) issue, it’s broader than that. If I were to post a picture of Israelis in tanks parading around areas of the occupied west bank and suggested they are taking advantage of the reduced land prices you would be pretty clear I was being racist or anti-Semetic.
Maybe your post does not constitute racism or ethnic bashing, but it’s nasty as hell and promotes nothing.
. . . before picking up a nice condo in Panama.
John, would that be in Boquete in Chiriqui?
“A good number of the men just sit around all day smoking and trying to figure out who they hate the most.”
Kinda sounds like this website. Except people here know who they hate – muslims.
Or this posts let’s us think about what is really happenning in the world, not what the media wants us to think.
Too deep for ya Maudlin?
“Because these Gazans have returned home with something to put on their floors, does this constitute a denial of the other conditions in their lives? Poverty being one?”
Together with the motorcycles and cigarettes – yes.
The whole thing is a prime example of media manipulation and the Pals are experts at it, and we have the gullible media over here.
poor little Gazian Palestinians. Can’t afford food or fuel but they have cornered the market on carpets.
Their choice of priorities might explain why they are so screwed up, so suffering from their self-inflicted stupidity.
Their choice, their problem.
Hope they enjoy it.
M Matt,
That’s the general area.
Johnny Maudlin: The world is fed a litany of stories about how downtrodden and oppressed the Palestinians are. The UN spends more time on this than any other issue, making it serious stuff, given the UN’s mandate.
On examination though, one cannot help but notice that the Palestinians themselves are never judged, despite the fact that elements within them are horribly racist in various ways and carry out heinous acts of violence including against their own people.
We also notice that in all those thousands of press photos, there is never an actual starving Palestinian; not like so many Africans. Yet the UN (and the EU, Arab League and other actors) carry on as if this is THE issue of the day.
In this latest event, nearly a million Gazans went to Egypt. They obviously have cash with which to buy stuff (unlike starving Africans) and the whole event, when judged against the background we have been fed, takes on a surreal character. The fact that Egypt has obviously been complicit in the “blockade” and that Israel supplies electricity and much else besides, moves surreality to the farcical.
Sorry Johnny, this is fertile ground for satire and damn your sensitivities.
You know – this deserves a serious response. (Maybe “deserves” is too strong a word.)
“Because these Gazans have returned home with something to put on their floors…”
Anyone who thinks that shopping for carpet is consistent with abject poverty has never been short of food and short of money at the same time.
Those of us who have, know better.
The trolls are missing the point…but then again, that’s nothing new.
To explain for the “hard-of-thinking”:
– the media played up the terrible plight and hardship of the poor Palestinians, starving under the brutal blockade imposed by the evil Israelis;
– but they forget to note that Egypt was party to the blockade, too…for several years…why are the Egyptians not considered evil, too? Nary a sound was uttered against the Egyptians.
– when a hole in the Egyptian apartheid wall is opened up (again, the media never mentions THIS wall), the supposedly starving folks rush across the wall to buy…wait for it…carpets and cigarettes and motorcycles. Doesn’t this suggest that they weren’t really starving or suffering as greatly as the media played up? And the reports from the FIRST DAY after the wall was breached talked about them bringing back carpets, so don’t think the carpet-buying has only been done after their food purchases were complete.
Do you start to get an inkling yet of what the point of the post is? I’ll spell it out for you: A N T I – S E M I T I C P R O P A G A N D A.
They’re only sucking in the fools in the public who are swayed by their tear-jerking propaganda to build more hatred against the Israelis and sympathy for the head-lobbing, barbaric terrorists and their supporters. How’s it feel to be so stupid?
The references to “Egypt’s apartheid wall” are getting a bit tiresome. No doubt the Egyptians were happy to take advantage of it, to keep Hamas out of their territory but, it was the Israelis who built the thing a couple of decades ago, and they didn’t ask Egypt, “Pretty please, may we put up a wall?” Just to be on the safe side, they built it a few meters inside of Gaza, so it was none of Egypt’s business anyway.
Posted by: pluto at January 27, 2008 5:30 PM
“Kinda sounds like this website. Except people here know who they hate – muslims.”
Would pluto care to give an example of his conclusion?
John,
My wife spent a year as an exchange student in David. She still has “family” there and we’re trying to one day get there for a visit. Boquete looks beautiful – I hope it all works out for you.
The following is a list of why I would “hate” someone.
1. anyone who wants me or my 3 daughters to live under sharia law
2. anyone who would suppress my right to free speech
3. anyone who would like to be-head my Prime Minister
4. anyone who would homicide bomb and kill innocent civilians
5. anyone who chants for my death, just because I will never bow to a pedophile martyr
6. anyone who would call my daughters whores, and exclaim that it is ok to rape them because they are showing some skin
7. anyone who says that it is ok to kill any jew over the age of 18
I would not say I hate all Muslims, just the ones that fit the above mentioned parameters.
kingstonlad,
Me too and I don’t even have any daughters.
No Zog the discussion about apartheid has to do with the UN, Jimmah Cartah and the MSM who all continually hound Israel about apartheid for defending themselves with a wall. But now we hear nothing from the usual suspects named when it is between an Arab State and Hamas .. as you correctly pointed out. The reason for that wall remaining intact until now has been the regime leading Egypt does not want its big problem, the Muslim Brotherhood, trading weapons with Hamas.
So the point is that Israel is not using apartheid when it defends itself and neither is Egypt.
“The references to “Egypt’s apartheid wall” are getting a bit tiresome.”
They’ve had time to make a gate.
That one lady is smiling; she must have gotten her rug on sale. Nothing like a sale to make a person smile.
Could I add two more to your list, Kingstonlad?
8. Anyone who practices and approves genital mutilation.
9. Anyone who murders their daughter/sister because she will not submit to an arranged marriage. Or tries to escape one.
You can make a bomb with the stuff under your kitchen sink – makes you wonder what a few Palestinians may have been buying….all looks harmless enough ’til someone gets hurt.
Lets Keep the list growing:
10. Anyone who would kill his daughter because she did not dress the way he wanted her to.
11. Anyone who would launch a complaint to the Human Rights Commission because his “feelings were hurt”.
Those of you suggesting that missiles are wrapped in the rugs the women are carrying should be ashamed. Only Red Crescent, Red Cross, and UN vehicles are used to transport missiles.
Kingston – not to put too fine a point on it but Mohammed was not a martyr. He became ill and died. Unlike Jesus who was crucified, Paul who was beheaded, Peter who was crucified inverted or Andrew who was crucified on a diagonal cross where he remained alive for several days.
12. Anyone who proclaims that kufar can/must be abused
13. Anyone who proclaims that apostates must be killed
14. Anyone who proclaims that men may marry 4 wives
15. Anyone who proclaims that husbands are obligated to beat their wives to keep them submissive and to preserve their souls.
16. Anyone who believes that lack of hymen blood on the marriage night is grounds for marriage annulment and loss of family “honour”.
17. Anyone who claims that rape is a result of provocative behavior on the part of the victim, and a punishable offense.
18. Anyone who claims that the punishment for homosexuality is death.
19. Anyone who believes that the punishment for sexual promiscuity or adultery is death.
Here’s one final question for Pathetic: Do you assume the worst possible motives for the USA, corporations, Conservatives, anything military, Christian, civility, morality, etc.?
I know your answer is yes, because you are so “worldly” and hip and cynical and “know better.”
Well, what’s stopping you from applying the same techniques of skepticism and cynicism on the Phakestinians, especially given their track record of deceit?
Double standards, eh? Ever hear of that Libtard Fascist?
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“It is the characteristic of the most stringent censorships
that they give credibility to the opinions they attack.”
— Voltaire
John: I agree, so let’s give back the 67 land to Lebanon, Syria, and Egypt … and the angry little people in Gaza and West Bank can go and live there.
Dear, oh dear, John. You need your mouth washed out again with soap.
I’ll give you a tiny bit of Amos:
In Amos 9:11, 13, the prophet said that God would restore the land of David. (King David ruled Israel from about 1010 BC to about 970 BC). The land of David – Israel – was conquered and destroyed by the Babylonians, Assyrians and Romans. The land has been in ruins for much of the past 2000 years.
Now, John, think calmly about this. Who made the desert to bloom? Who brought prosperity to the land that one would even covet it?
Take 10 deep breaths and relax. That’s a good boy. Now you can have your milk.
I see about 10 people on that photo. One million crossed from Gaza into Egypt. Should we conclude they ALL purchased carpets (and cigarettes and motorbikes)? How many of those products did the Egyptians stock up, anyway?
Medias tend to oversimplify things. The fact that some palestinians were under dire straits due to the blockade doesn’t mean the whole place was starving. A few starving families is all that one need to mount a propaganda campaign against the ‘evil-Israslis-who-walled-us-up-and-want-us-to-all-die’.
I suspect many Palestinian families, if not most, have stores of food that may last for months if not years. I would if I lived there. Most were not starving, and just took advantage of the shopping opportunity when it came along.
John still doesn’t get it.
John..the media would have us believe they are suffering and unhappy. Kate shows us a picture revealing that they are not suffering and unhappy.
We are happy they are happy.We are happy that they are not hungry John, because they wouldn’t buy carpets if they were hungry John.
Are you unhappy, John?
That shopping spree after knocking down the was gives a whole new meaning to WALL Mart.
And I agree, when you are in poverty you don’t by rugs, you buy food if you have any money.
This middle east scam is getting so tiresome, one is prone to look at all parties involved with disgust and apathy.
Great little exchanges today. I would urge John to accept that when image triumphs over substance than we all loose. If Islamic radicals do one thing well (besides kill) it is to spin thier version of reality. Thier efforts to spin the truth is aided by the failure of western leaders of all parties to set aside political ambition and rise up to defend our way of life.
Remember who started the 67 war! I remember meeting holocaust survivors in 1947. I will never forget.
Posted by: John at January 27, 2008 7:50 PM,
Looks really upset without reading and thinking of the context. As he may know, the news manufacturers announced that Palestinians were starving or more to the point someone was causing them to starve.
Now when you see the Palestinians buying cigarettes and other things, clearly not food items, obviously a sensible person would ask, why? If a person is hungry, one would think that the person buys food rather than cigarettes or non food items. This clearly has nothing to do with any wings. It has to do with common sense.
The problem you have is with news manufacturers rather that people that comment on the manufactured news.
Kate (and others repeating her argument); you’re just wrong. It’s possible to bring a rug back from Eygpt AND be living in poverty. You and I are not going to conduct scientific tests to prove or disprove that.
I’m comfortable stating that I think you are bigotted, Kate. The bulk of what you put up here makes a strong case for it. It’s not about your right to say what you like. You can do that. You do that. But you are demonstrably not interested in promoting a balance of views.
I didn’t write anything about the Palestinians being innocents, or write anything about their acts of violence or their poor choices in grabbing rugs and smokes instead of food. I think you go there as a way of distracting from the notion that you are mean-spirited. But you’re not lonely, Kate, and you won’t be. We all have the nasty ideas and the lousy feelings. All of us. And I can anticipate a host of your commentors screeching, “Don’t speak for me, I am not having nasty ideas…” They are lying.
It’s just human to have all this lousy and angry feeling. What I am suggesting is that there are better angels and it might be nice for you to go there sometimes. That’s all.