When the concept of “multiculturalism” was introduced to Canadians, most assumed it meant “more pavilions at Folkfest”;
A 16-year-old girl is in critical condition after being choked by a man believed to be her father, apparently after a dispute with her family over her refusal to wear the hijab, the Islamic headscarf worn by some Muslim women.
Peel Regional Police arrested a 57-year-old man yesterday morning after receiving a 911 call from a suburban home in Mississauga from a man saying he had killed his daughter. When police and paramedics arrived at the house they found a 16-year-old lying on the floor without any vital signs, police said.
[…]
Friends of the teenager, a Grade 11 student at nearby Applewood Heights high school, identified her as Aqsa Parvez and said they were shocked by the attack on the outgoing, likeable girl, but said she had been threatened by her strictly religious family before.
“She got threatened by her father and her brother,” said Dominiquia Holmes-Thompson, who had known Aqsa since they both started high school together. “He said that if she leaves, he would kill her.”
Ebonie Mitchell, 16, another friend of the victim, said the conflict with her father over wearing Islamic dress came to a head at the beginning of this school year. “She just wanted to dress like we do,” she said.
“Last year she wore like the Islamic stuff and everything, the hijab, and this year she’s all Western. She just wanted to look like everyone else. And I guess her dad had a problem with that.”
Aqsa Parvez has now reportedly died. A commentor at the linked site has it right. In addition to murder charges, this case demands to be prosecuted as a hate crime.
Hana, Hana, Hana. You wound me.
This may come as a shock to you, but since I strongly believe in personal freedom I think Muslims in Canada should not have to care a damn if I approve or disapprove of them.
It is, however, my opinion. I don’t live in hate and fear, I just don’t have much use for people who won’t look after their girls, nieces, sisters and what have you. Pardon me if this offends you. Please join the line of people to your left who can k my a.
Should some of these so-far-silent “moderate” types stand up and act like men instead of barnyard animals, I will applaud, aid and abet them. Until then, not so much.
(My deepest apologies to any barnyard animals who may have been offended by this post.)
This story would never make it onto CBC’s “Little Mosque…”
Far too much truth of the Mark Steyn variety for Liberal consumption. In addition to the copies of Steyn’s “America Alone” being sent to Ontario’s HRC, maybe this story should be attached to those books too.
Hana, with respect, I know plenty of Muslims who are not a concern to me, and I would welcome them as neighbours and colleagues. I do not “need to get to know them”. I already do. Mostly I know them from work, not so much socially, but some of the latter. Their lives are not any different than mine as best as I can tell. Same concerns, same pleasures, and as Zarah – Islam seems to play mostly a social role and does not dominate their lives from wake to sleep. They laugh at the same things I laugh at and watch Youtube like me. They don’t look at me darkly as I talk to them, and they have no hestitation about a handshake, male or female.
I also know the history of Muslims in Canada did not begin at 9/11. It began 3-4 generations or more before that. There weren’t major issues until the last 10-20 years. Most were quite educated, many professionals who escaped repressive societies and were glad to come here. They made fine Canadians.
It is this knowledge that makes me try to mitigate some of the anger that is expressed towards all Muslims, when I know that is is a minority that are the problem.
What changed? I believe it to the be a drastic and excessively rapid increase of immigration numbers and more importantly the source of the newer group. Far less educated and worldly, far more easily swayed by the rantings of their “imam”, or whatever they read in their local paper.
Also, the world changed, for the worse unfortunately.
And, of course and worse of all, MULTICULTURALISM hit us, drastically reducing any incentive to become part of Canada. Indeed, discouraging this actively, rewarding self segregation with public moneys and voting power.
So we have a problem now.
And sorry. I stand by the Darth Vader statement. It is simply alien in this society to walk around with only eyes (if that) showing. That person makes it loud and clear they want no part of this country and this society. The burka really should be banned.
Hana writes to Lori, “Do you really not see how these careless [sic] statements are exactly the sort of thing that Zarah was cautioning against?” What cheek!
Hana, by what authority do Lori or any of us have to take Zarah’s comments with even a grain of salt? She certainly has no credibility with me and I find her “careless”, extreme, and unsubstantiated generalities carry no weight at all.
Being a product of the public school system, no doubt, where the slightest “hiccup” of accused racism (religionism?) would have the joint hopping to ingratiate, patronize, and appease, the poor dears (I include Hana here too) are just not used to hard reality. (Zarah’s not used to correctly using upper case letters either, another of my beefs with our public school system!)
And, no girls, my comments are no more hateful than yours: please get it into your heads that someone disagreeing with your narrow, politically correct notions doesn’t mean that people are hateful.
However, I would say, with authority, that murdering one’s own daughter, for any reason, let alone her mode of dress, the on-going political assassinations–an Arab word, BTW–of thousands of innocents all over the world, and using the freedoms provided by one’s host country in order to attack that society’s most precious freedoms are truly hateful.
The verifiably hateful BEHAVIOUR of too many Muslims, which threatens, demeans, and actually annihilates real people, right here in our midst, is the problem, girls.
And I find it troublesome that you have the audacity to shake your fingers at us, while entirely overlooking the supremely wicked actions of a critical mass of Muslims, who are wreaking HAVOC the world over.
Now, what do you say to THAT?
terrence: you criticize Lori for using generalizations and how do you do this? By making presumptuous GENERALIZATIONS.
A standard definition of “generalization” might be thus: “A proposition asserting something to be true either of all members of a certain class or of an indefinite part of that class.”
Have I made any such propositions? No, I’ve criticized only Lori, and not the entirety of any group to which she might belong. I have, however, made some assumptions, but done so plainly, and only based on what she has written on this thread. She may in turn defend her stated position by exposing my assumptions as false, if indeed they are. I would welcome it.
Unfortunately, they do NOT speak out publicly. Very few Muslims speak out against these monsters; they leave these monsters to set the base line of Muslim public behavior.
That you think these monsters (and indeed they are monsters) set the “baseline of Muslim public behaviour” is your choice, and your problem. I allow my “baseline of Muslim public behaviour,” as you put it, to be set by my Muslim Canadian friends, and not by the fanatics who act falsely in the name of Islam.
Hana, of course Muslims do not want respect and approval from non-Muslims. This ugly supremacism…
Nonsense. I have no interest either in gaining your respect or approval, and I assure you that this lack of interest is born not of an “ugly supremacism,” religious or secular, but rather of a simple desire to not waste my life pursuing the esteem of the narrow-minded. Forgive my generalizing, but I suspect a similar motivation holds for those in the Muslim Canadian community.
Thanks for the laughs, hana! You made my day!
Just thought I’d copy and paste this excerpt from Robert Spencer at Humanevents.com
…[…] the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR)
has issued a new media guide […] that purports to “educate the media and disabuse journalists of misinformation” about Islam.
The notorious Islamic advocacy group […] asserts that “common misperceptions in the media include the notion that Islam is not compatible with democracy or modern culture,
that the Quran teaches violence,
that Muslims around the world hate the US,
that Islam does not respect women’s rights,
and that all Muslims are Arab.”
Except for the fact all muslims are not Arab
– which is totally irrelevant – this is absurd!
And Lori, remember: follow the money, i.e., massive sums from Saudi Arabia which have hijacked the mosques in the West and installed Wahhabist, salafist imams who preach the most vile hate ideology on the planet. AND, the putative Muslim organizations (CAIR, CIC) who pretend to represent the Muslim community, pander to the political elites, get legitimacy there, and take that imprimatur back to their communities as proof that they are the real leaders of the community.
AND as ET has pointed out, watch that block vote buying which the Liberals were absolute masters at.
I have to admit though, that re: the Darth Vader remark, I much preferred the flaming liberal Bill Maher’s term for the burqa: “bee keeper’s outfit”.
Muslim Canadians are not interested in gaining your respect or approval. As fellow citizens and human beings, they require only that they not be discriminated against.
Hey, Hana, Muslim sheeple with their tacitly approving silence, as that’s the only call a rational person can make at this point, of all things rotten about Islam negates approving of or respecting them. They are tolerated in spite of their dysfunctional religion and culture which is about as good as it gets when your religion and culture are rotten.
Honor killings like cannibalism are beyond the pale. Want to step forward and defend Muslim’s deafening silence on that cultural practice? 36% of Muslims in Britain ages 18-25 approve of the practice. The vast majority of the rest have their mouths nailed shut. Sweet.
Decent human values are by definition discriminatory. Muslims with their primitive attitudes toward women and non-believers sure aren’t my equal in a civil society.
Muslims need to reform their rotten religion which fosters such inhumane behavior or stay marginalized, oh, and an object of derision as deserved.
Think you can deal with that kind of reality check verses your lame virtucratic posturing?
DCARDNO
Care to provide a citation, Johnny, or are you just talking out of your ass?
lets try jonestown and koolaid
kristians ain’t blemish free, ask any kristian female from the middle east, culturally they are treated very similar to muslim women over their
and so are many orthadox jewish women
and 40-30 years ago there were several killing and wounding of good catholic wives by their catholic husbands rite here in toronto. these killings woundings were done mostly by claw hammer, by portugese construction workers
and there is a past co-work’s good catholic cousin who was beat severily by her new catholic husband for not doing as she was told
I could go on, but what for, the blind will never see
Hana said
“May I suggest that instead of getting all your information about Muslim Canadians from news reports and SDA, to go out and actually get to know, at a personal level, the many “decent individuals who happen to be Muslim and Canadians.”
Tried that!
Here’s a personal ancedote, if that’s all you believe in Hana.
I tried your “get to know, at a personal level” at the muslim owned coffee shop behind Sick Kids Hospital for a couple of weeks.
At a really “personal level” it appeared that the hajib wearing staff went to great lengths to ensure that they did not touch my hand when they gave me back my change.
Hana, I think I have to spell it out for you.
You say, “”ugly supremacism,” religious or secular, but rather of a simple desire to not waste my life pursuing the esteem of the narrow-minded. Forgive my generalizing, but I suspect a similar motivation holds for those in the Muslim Canadian community.”
By doing so, you are not only generalizing, you are DEMONSTRATING ugly supremacism. Thank you!
I really appreciate what you have done here, today, Hana. Thanks again! You do know you have made Muslims look like intolerant, bigoted fools, don’t you?
The “modest and moderate” Hana strikes again: “This may come as a shock to you, but Muslim Canadians are not interested in gaining your respect or approval. As fellow citizens and human beings, they require only that they not be discriminated against. Rightly, they don’t owe you anything, up to and including mass rallies.” (This, Hana, is called “hoisting oneself on one’s own petard”. Look it up.)
Hana, I guess you don’t know about the Golden Rule. And your brazen insult to your fellow Canadians amply proves why many people have a problem with the self-serving behaviour of a critical mass of Muslims. My Christian ancestors—the Golden Rule is the second great Commandment for Jews and Christians—built this free country, to share. But, to have to share with the kind of arrogant freeloader you’ve exposed yourself to be, was most definitely not their intention.
Preferring to live only for oneself, Hana, doesn’t readily win friends and influence people. I’d suggest that if you consider Canada and its people simply an easy to exploit convenience, in order to fulfill your selfish ends, you might consider going back to the country which instilled in you such a hateful philosophy.
“This may come as a shock to you, but Muslim Canadians are not interested in gaining your respect or approval. As fellow citizens and human beings, they require only that they not be discriminated against. Rightly, they don’t owe you anything, up to and including mass rallies”.
No, it is not a shock at all and it just about says it all, eh? Not interested in gaining our respect…….. after all, what is the respect of a kafir worth?
Until we do see muslims in Canada standing BESIDE us they will not be accepted. Period. Nor shall they be. Furthermore, if muslims in Canada feel so put out they need to be reminded that the door opens both ways, they are more than free to seek out more congenial locales in which to choke the life from their daughters.
I hesitate to label this tragedy ‘Islamic’. It occurred in Islamic family and was about Islamic practices but the response of the father was all too human. A father felt that the gross immorallity of the general society was taking over his family and in a fit of impotent rage killed the daughter he most likely loved very much.
I don’t for a minute think that what the father did was right or justified but I don’t see a whole bunch of difference between him and Robert Latimer. Latimer says he sought to eliminate the great evil of western cultures, suffering just as this man sought to eliminate the great evil of his world view progressive, permissive, secularism.
Joe, I hope you do NOT have children. There is NOTHING “all to human” about murdering your child.
Holy Hana,have you ever heard of ‘namus’ from your moderate muslim friends? This is the belief that the man of the family is responsible for the acts of his wife,daughter,mother and sister. when one of these lesser beings commit an act that goes against the teachings of islam,the man loses respect in the patriarchal community. He must then punish the lesser being to regain his ‘namus’. Going out in public without the hijab is one of the many,many offences that require punishment. Also talking to an unrelated man is punishable. On a DAILY basis I come across this backward concept. If you are so comfortable with being deemed second class because of your sex organs maybe you should convert and find out,up close and personal,how loving the ‘religion of peace’ can be.
terrence
Too late I have raised six children. Sorry you missed my point. I was trying to get away from the Islam bashing taking place and recognize that throughout humanity people have taken it upon themselves to eliminate perceived evil through evil means. I’m not trying to make it right just trying to keep us all humble here.
phantom – no, Sikh honour killings also take place in Canada. Not just in India. Eg, Jassi Sidhu, Rajinder Atwal.
If you think that people come here to escape, I suggest you check out the agenda, for one example, SS News, and check out the Sikh Agenda for Canada. You’ll see that its focus is the opposite of escape.
http://www.sikhsangat.org/ssn/publish/Canada_20/Draft_Sikh_Agenda_for_the_Canadian_Government.shtml
Items include requests for increased participation in local and national govt, as an ‘identity group’, government funding for the promotion of this ‘identity group’, promotion of their unique identity and language, availability of teaching children their language.
This is the opposite of ‘forgetting’. This is one example of our multicultural policy, which locks immigrants into replications of their original ethnic, religious or linguistic identity, rejects the devt of a modern identity operating within the Canadian context, and insists on that isolation of the original group.
I try not to get personal in these kind of exchanges but Joe you are a complete and total ———————— fill in the blank. Open your freeeekin eyes!!!! This is fundamentalist Islam all the way! What really bothers me is that people who think the way you do all too often get into power in this country and it is leading us down the path to destruction. You are so anxious to accomodate everyone and every point of view that you end up have no morals, no standards, no sense of who we are and where we are going. Those who are hell-bent on imposing their will and way of life on the world find a fertile breedingground here in our beloved Canada for their extremist Islamofacist belief and way-of-life. Someday, Joe, we are all going wake up and realize that we have dug our own grave. At least I will be able to tell you Leftards “We told you so”. “Now, try to fix it!”
Cair-Can has issued a press release denouncing zero-tolerance against all women. Nothing about the background of this murder,though. It is crap. If they come out and encourage all women to walk around without thier hijab and fear for one day a week,I would believe them a little more…..Joe,if you can’t see the difference between Latimer and this theocratic ragehead,well I don’t know,you’re pretty f’en blind.
…but I don’t see a whole bunch of difference between him and Robert Latimer. — Joe
If latimer had killed his daughter because she had found a cure that would free her from her ordeal then it would be the same.
western ways, customs and laws are the “cure” for muslim women.
Ending one’s suffering is the opposite of ending one’s freedom.
a different Bob
Please back away from the computer and take a deep breath. I am not now nor ever in the past defended Islam. One of my state goals in life is converting Muslims to Christianity. All I am saying here is that the reaction of the father is evil trying to eliminate evil. His perception of evil is based in his Islamic belief system, his reaction to that evil is an all too human reaction some would say sanctioned by his Islamic religion. I’m not trying to excuse Islam I’m pointing to the danger of trying to eliminate evil with or through the use of evil.
Whoa, Joe, like your faux virtucrat friend Hana, a lack of humility isn’t an issue with those of us coming down hard on Islam and its practitioners. Actually, Islam totally lacks humility. Islam deserves to be mocked and its barbaric practices reviled in the West unless like Hana you want to accomodate its excesses like honor killing, wife beating, polygamy, etc.
…throughout humanity people have taken it upon themselves to eliminate perceived evil through evil means….
Slavery and Hitler as evils weren’t exactly eliminated by evil means. It’s really an insult to our intelligence to suggest that we can’t distinguish between that and the Salem Witch Trials. Get over yourself.
Latimer’s daughter suffering was not perceived evil, it was real.
A women showing her hair in public is perceived evil.
Those two fathers have nothing in common, nothing.
western ways, customs and laws are the “cure” for muslim women.
Says who? You’re just substituting one belief system for another. Instead of sexual exclusiveness found in most religions you have sexual promiscuity proglamated by western culture. I’m not sure the cure is any better than the disease.
Friend of USA
Suffering is real. Is it also evil?
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/a-free-dominion-against-the-hrcs/signatures.html
Remember the Steyn / Macleans / HRC petition. For all we know, this blog will be where they strike next.
Sexual promiscuity is not so much western culture as it is what liberals/leftists have done to western culture in about four decades.
Sexual promiscuity is not so much western culture as it is what liberals/leftists have done to western culture in about four decades
Absolutely agree with you. And this evil is what so enraged the father that he resorted to evil in order to eliminate it. In Salem the people saw others acting funny and decided that the people acting funny were evil. The good townsfolk resorted to evil and eliminated the evil they saw in others.
The thrust of all my posts in this thread has been that regardless of the motivation Islam, Buddhism, Shintoism, Christianity, Judeaism or even secular humanism/atheism the human instinct is to resort to evil when we perceive evil to be present in others. Everyone of us will resort to it or else excuse it given the right circumstance.
GYM…were you valedictorian at your madrassa?
Hana…thanks for being the clear voice of Islam and forgive us filthy kaffirs.
Joe …no thats moral equivocation, your saying our honor killing friend was only acting on his perception of good/evil. I’d say he was just evil and not anything else.
ET…you apologize for Islam as much as you condemn it. As I have pointed out a few times before, you know nothing of Islam and being “against Zionism” (ie. a Jew hater) puts dung in your arguments.
Instead of sexual exclusiveness found in most religions you have sexual promiscuity proglamated by western culture. I’m not sure the cure is any better than the disease.
The kid is DEAD, you moron. Wearing a Britany Spears accessory isn’t much better than being dead for a kid? Get real.
Joe, I propose that you aren’t less rigid and mindless than your basic Mohammed spewing primative. You’ve got the same cemented black and white mindframe scratching past your mindless virtucratic spiel. Go re-read yourself.
Lookout: Hana, by what authority do Lori or any of us have to take Zarah’s comments with even a grain of salt?
None, obviously (and FYI: your sentence contradicts your own position, unless by “with even a grain of salt,” you actually meant something more along the lines of “at face value”). Except that Lori @ 5:40PM did take Zarah’s comments at face value.
The verifiably hateful BEHAVIOUR of too many Muslims, which threatens, demeans, and actually annihilates real people, right here in our midst, is the problem, girls.
I agree.
And I find it troublesome that you have the audacity to shake your fingers at us, while entirely overlooking the supremely wicked actions of a critical mass of Muslims, who are wreaking HAVOC the world over. Now, what do you say to THAT?
I say: I haven’t overlooked anything. Terrence calls this critical mass “monsters,” and I concur. At the same time, your unwillingness to differentiate between these fanatics and law-abiding, peaceful Muslims adds in its own way to the problem, and thus is also worthy of criticism.
richfisher: At a really “personal level” it appeared that the hajib wearing staff went to great lengths to ensure that they did not touch my hand when they gave me back my change.
Who knows? Maybe she had a cold and didn’t want to infect you. Maybe you just look unhygienic. In any case, not wanting to touch your hand–yeah, that surely is proof that they’re hateful and unassimilable and probably terrorists-in-waiting. [/sarc off]
Some of the cashiers at the Chinese grocery stores over on Spadina wear gloves and leave customers’ change on the counter rather than in their hands. No doubt you can dream up an evil motivation for that behaviour too.
penny
Did I ever defend the actions of the father? No I did not. What the father did was evil. What I continue to say is the motivation is trivial when compared to the condition. That condition being fallen humanity. Everyone of us, given the right condition, would do the same. Thus the need for us to get over our own self righteousness. Working ourselves into a lather based over Islam based on the actions of a murdering father is as pointless as preaching to the choir. We as humans need to look beyond our indignation and pray for the murderer and ourselves that we all might repent and find new life beyond the trap in which we now find ourselves.
F**K ALLAH
F**K MOHAMMAD
F**K ISLAM
F**K P.E.TRUDEAU
F**K MULTI-CULTI B.S.
F**K LIBERALS and their social engineering programs. It’s working just like they planned it to all along.
Canadians please take back your culture.
Hana writes, “At the same time, your unwillingness to differentiate between these fanatics and law-abiding, peaceful Muslims adds in its own way to the problem.”
Where was I unwilling to differentiate?
And what about the Golden Rule?
HANA – SELMER – DOREEN – PETE FROM OTTAWA – SDA SUCKS, etc. etc. If you plan to continue posting here as a regular, then pick an identity.
The rest of you – it’s time to remind you that this is not a chat forum. If you have comments, keep on topic, and limit them to the subject at hand. If you’ve posted more than three times on a thread, it’s time to take it to private email.
Law-abiding peaceful muslims………unless provoked by such deviant acts as refusing to wear a hijab,getting raped,or naming a teddy bear after a pedophiliac monster.All these occurred in the last month. Cair-Can,the voice of muslims in Canada has released a statement denouncing all violence against women today,without any mention of the religious background of this murder. Why the F not? This was not an act of rage by a father upset at his daughter,this was a religious execution carried out by two,2,you got that TWO men,the father and brother,both named mohammed. I wouldn’t be surprised if the apologists on this thread are also named mohammed,scum posing as women,because thier women would never be allowed close to something as blasphemous as free speech.
terrence: By doing so, you are not only generalizing, you are DEMONSTRATING ugly supremacism. Thank you!
Answer me one question: are you interested in gaining my respect and approval? If no, is it because of your own ugly supremacism? After all, that seems to be the only explanation you’re willing to accept for my lack of interest in gaining your respect. Perhaps there’s another explanation lying in wait. And unless you’re a hypocrite, you should hold yourself to the same standards that you hold me to, and vice versa.
richfisher, was that your evil, dirty LEFT hand the Muslims would not touch?
I’m a committed Christian, Joe and I often find what you say eminently reasonable and laudable. Then you write something like this: “What I continue to say is the motivation is trivial when compared to the condition. That condition being fallen humanity. Everyone of us, given the right condition, would do the same. Thus the need for us to get over our own self righteousness. Working ourselves into a lather based over Islam based on the actions of a murdering father is as pointless as preaching to the choir.”
This moral equivalency is absolute rubbish, Joe.
If what this father did was just an isolated example–it certainly would be if committed by a Christian dad in Mississauga–then one could remove Islam from the equation. But, Joe, this is not an isolated example of Muslim males’ behaviour towards their women. In fact, it’s a direct result of beliefs that come from the Koran.
The New Testament preaches a totally different Gospel and Christians are not prone to obliterating their females or people with whom they disagree. I honestly don’t understand what you’re doing here, Joe. Whatever it is, it’s addle brained and definitely lousy theology.
Maybe you just need a good night’s sleep. God bless you.
lookout: …your brazen insult to your fellow Canadians…
That’s your flaw, lookout — you think you’re representative of the average Canadian. I know, and love, “my fellow Canadians.” And with all due respect, they are not you.
This is extremely sad as a young girl in Toronto is murdered while our troops are fighting to emancipate the women from the Islamists.
Toronto’s wish for the armed forces to battle crime might be needed to help emancipate women in Canada.
Sorry lookout what I wrote is not moral equivalency. My point is simply this that we humans are a fallen creation. As such one of our tendencies is to resort to evil when ever we are confronted with what our belief system says is evil. I am not excusing such behavior I’m simply pointing it out. Until we realize that ‘us’ and ‘them’ is ‘we’, humanity will be the lessor. Humanity needs to get over itself, humble itself and seek beyond itself what it can only see now through a glass darkly. What I am truly trying to say is its not the belief or non belief that is evil because belief or non belief is a reflection of the evil that is inate with in us. Only when we seek that which is Good beyond ourselves will we reach our full potential in Love.
Some of my buddies and I just had dinner and we were discussing this POS killing his daughter. One of my friend’s son is a cop and he tells his dad that the beatings of women by these guys goes on all the time. He goes on a lot of domestic calls where there is violence within the family but the muslim males are always amazed when they are arrested as it is their right to beat their women. One guy he recently arrested had bloody knuckles and his wife was unconscious after being badly beaten by this creep. He too was incredulous that he was now in custody and berated the cops for interferring in his personal life.
Is there not a manual given to these thugs of Canadian laws and the rules of our society?
Hey Hana, join the muslims and you can give us a blow by blow report of their wonderful culture.
I vote Joe to go out first and talk to the Martians in their great three legged death ray machines.
Hana: “I know, and love, ‘my fellow Canadians’. And with all due respect [sic], they are not you.”
Wrong on both counts.
Joe: “Only when we seek that which is Good beyond ourselves will we reach our full potential in Love.”
Correct. But Islam is not the Way to Love.
This sad story perhaps buttresses the argument for banning all religious symbols in the schools and in the public square.
One of the girl’s friends mentioned that she would put on the hijab and then take it off outside the house. Were the father to know, in no uncertain terms, that no hijabs (which are worn involunatrily as political separatist statements!) are permitted in the schools, perhaps this tragic episode would not have developed. And please, no one tell me that a woman should be “free” to wear it: they’re nearly always not — they’re forced to by a rigid and brutal patriarchy, which itself is bolstered by the increasing ownership of the mosques by massive Saudi Wahhabi money.
And Michael at 1:56pm: the proposed sharia law in Ontario for arbitration would be voluntary in the abstract only. That’s why Muslim women were so outspoken about it and shut it down: they understand what “voluntary” means, as in, volunteer or be shunned (if you’re lucky!).
Finally, we’ve got to do something about foreign funding of the mosques and Islamic centres. It is being used to corral Muslims into the world-wide umma.
Make up all the excuses for muslim intolerance you want Hana.
I just don’t go to their shop anymore because of the way I was treated.
BTW I live 100 yds from the two biggest Chinese grocery stores on Spadina.(How Long and Asia Farms)
The check out girls in China Town don’t recoil and re-aim when you lift your hand up to accept your change.