Church and state, together at last;
The Canadian Islamic Congress […] know damn well themselves about the power of demographics as they keep track of Muslim populations in Canada and plan accordingly.
Prior to the 2004 elections the Canadian Islamic Congress issued a report (Elections 2004: Towards Informed and Commited Voting – pdf ) to their members. They had recognized their new found political clout due to changing demographics (example – second largest voting bloc in Ottawa) from compiled census data and noted that Muslims represented a swing vote in 101 electoral districts.
The Canadian Islamic Congress graded each of the 301 elected MP’s according to various domestic and international issues which included closer ties to Muslim countries, review’s of the anti-terrorism legislation and getting rid of security certificates. Members were urged to vote for those with the highest grade.
You aren’t allowed to mention this in polite company because, as every good progressive* will remind you – Islam is a race.
Read the rest at DMB.
better keep your guns
Can you say “elected Senate”? Suuuure you can. Say it with me now, Elected Senate!
Faster please Mr. Harper sir.
It appears the cult of Islam is seriously working to have a big influence in our Government.
At what point do we wake up?
All this begs the question; Just who does the CIC represent?
I have trouble believing the entire Canadian Muslim community subscribe to their ethno-centric manipulating…and I have to wonder if Muslims are really the type of mindless goat herd who would do everything some self appointed lobby tells them to do..or how to think or vote.
If the Muslim community turn out to be the mindless sheep CIC pretends they are, our democracy may have a problem Houston…but I’d like to see CIC’s actual support numbers broken down first.
I suspect CIC is running a con to gain access to the patronage cabal…they have yet to deliver the votes.
Muslims in America are noticing this development with great interest.
However, the first Muslim Congressman, Keith Ellison, was elected from a district with relatively few Muslims. The voters of the district opted for a double-dip politically correct fashion accessory, by electing the first black Congressman in their history, and the first Muslim Congressman ever.
CAIR is definitely inflating the number of Muslims in America to gain access to the patronage cabal. The Pew Study on Islam in America shot down the inflated numbers
Islamic rhetoric on display, it’s immoral except when it’s okay.
3.2.7 The American ‘War on Terror’
a) …. deliberate act of violence against innocent people is immoral. …but but but but.. people who are under occupation have the right … to liberate their lands …, including the use of armed resistance.…( it) cannot be labeled “acts of terrorism.”
10% muslims in a major Canadian city today will be at least 30% in about 25 years.
Before the end of the century they will elect Muslims who will impose Sharia law…unless something big – really big happens.
but what?
Even if we stopped all immigration completely now, the difference in birth rate would still be an enormous problem.
Massive immigration is an experiment that has been shoved down our traoths by the left and that has turned into a slow suicide for western civilization.
It is not that they are immigrant that is the problem – this has nothing to do with racism.
it is that there are too many of them having too many babies.
and too many on the left trying to silence us by calling us racist,
and too many on the left telling immigrants they do not have to integrate, that it is us westerners who should adapt to them, accomodate them, respect their primitive barbaric customs.
and too many on the left full of guilt for supposed “white man” crimes of centuries ago.
This mess is all the left’s fault and instead of trying to fix it, they make it worse everyday.
in a few years major cities in Europe will have a muslim majority, and we are next you can bet all you have it will happen.
Western civilization is in deep trouble, this is only the tip of the iceberg.
“At what point do we wake up?” Liz J
I think there will have to be rioting in the streets first, most Canadians want less immigration, but Ottawa doesn’t care. I’m disappointed in our current PM.
In fact merely talking about it will can get a human rights comission to sue your ass off. Even for telling the truth in Canada.
Of course the MSM will jump on this story as proof evangelical fundamentalist Muslims are interfering with the political process.
No?
Toronto is a perfect example of what Canada will look like in 50 years.
I am not prepared to see that happen.
Of course the MSM will jump on this story as proof evangelical fundamentalist Muslims are interfering with the political process.
No?
yeah the MSM, another thing that is part of the problem…
They are just following the plan laid out in their ‘religious’ texts and by the Muslim Brotherhood.
Perhaps not all Muslims support the CIC and CAIR. However, these Islamist organisations are working diligently to rectify that.
Islam is an alien totalitarian political movement, like Communism and Naziism.
People ask, “But what are we supposed to do? We must not offend them. There’s a billion of them.”
Well, I don’t know. There were more than a billion Communists during the height of the cold war. We were not tolerant and didn’t accept their ideology on any grounds. We strategically kept them at bay, without compromise. And, most importantly, we didn’t allow them to infiltrate our land and destroy us from within through mass immigration.
The more people become educated about Islam; who actually read what their prophet said and did – and how the everyday Muslim is commanded to do the same – the more likely we can defeat politicians that enable them and elect politicians that disable political Islam.
This in only possible because we allow it and in some cases encourage it. There was an article a while back by Mark Styen noting that all three federal parties were running a Muslim candidate in an Ontario riding which had almost no Muslim population. Go figure.
I also recall how in the past a few pastors and priests were taken to task for telling their congregations not to support pro abortion candidates. They were told by Revenue Canada they would lose their tax status by meddling in politics. Furthermore Human Life International lost its charity status for being against abortion. This happened only in Canada.
Now I see when Muslims are involved in such activities they get a passing grade. They can even support and fund Islamists (terrorism, etc.) and still keep their charity status.
Watch out for those muslims under your bed! They’ll get you. haha It’s funny you’re rightly skeptical about preditions about weather decades into the future when no one even knows for sure what will happen tommorow but when it comes to muslims taking over Canada you’ll believe anything!! The only fool bigger than someone who believes he can predict the future is the fool who believes in the predictions. For people who seem to consider themselves experts on islam it’s obvious most have never actually met and talked with Canadian muslims. They are not the borg – you paranoid basement dwellers – you’re talking about individuals with different levels of faith, different views of politics, ect. – I was born and baptized as a presbyterian but haven’t attend for awhile – does that mean my views equal Jerry Falwell? Muslims are no different – they are all individuals with their own levels of belief and views on things.
Todd,
maybe you do not understand demographics and birth rates?
as an example,
Spain’s birth rate is hovering a little over 1.0, so every 25 years or so, the population of native is cut in half while the number of muslim who have an average birth rate of over 3.0 increases.
it is not fuzzy science or paranoia to say eventually spaniards will be replaced by muslims, it is mathematical.
we know babies born today will become adults who will have kids, this is mathematical
we are not talking weather predictions here.
if you understand demographics and birth rates, and understand this is not fuzzy science or paranoia but mathematical
then it does not matter how many muslims friends one has, or how nice some of the muslims are
they are still having more kids than we are.
just try to imagine if instead of muslims it was texas “cowboys” who were changing the landscape of major cities in Canada.
what would the left’s reaction be?
If it was SUV-driving, gun-owning, cowboy-hat-wearing and church going Americans from Texas that were immigrating to Canada in large numbers and were having far more kids than we are,
we would have liberals going insane!
I am convinced some liberals would even resort to violence or terrorism!
There would be large scale demonstrations that would turn violent.
Don’t they throw rocks at policemen at anti-world trade demonstrations?
The left’s reaction to texas immigrants would dwarf our present reaction to muslims.
Yes, but idiot todd, you forgot to mention that, to whatever degree, regardless of sect, they all share the same ideology, through the same foundationally violent texts. Which means, that at any time when they or their children decide to study these texts, take their faith seriously and do as commanded, they won’t be the nice Muslims next door anymore.
You also forgot to mention that the MSA and most Islamic school curriculum in North America are funded and controlled by Saudi Wahabbiists. Or that their most prominent organisations, like CAIR, are proven terrorist front organisations and unindited co-conspirators, linked to Hamas.
Furthermore, you failed to mention, that all of these organisations are tied to the Muslim Brotherhood. Have you ever read their documents and plans for dar al Harb?
And here you are, offering an expert opinion, because, golly gee, you’ve talked with a couple of Canadian Muslims. Wow, aren’t you well informed.
Have you ever read the Quran, the Hadith, or Sira?
Actually, a more appropriate question is: Can you comprehend what you read?
The answer to that would be no.
You claim to have been born and baptised a Presbyterian, yet you make moral equivalency claims between Islam and Christianity with your reference to Jerry Falwell.
Now, have you read and do you comprehend the NT? Is it foundationally violent? Does Christ command and reward his followers to murder, rape and pillage all Jews and non-Christians? And then demand 20% of the booty? Did Christ marry a little girl at 6 years of age and consummate the marriage by raping her at 9? Did he tell his followers to do the same? Is the fastest way to heaven killing as many non-Christians as possible and losing your own life in the process? Did Christ collect and keep hordes of slaves? Did Christ personally give the order and then oversee the beheading of 900 innocent, non-combatant men? And then take the prettiest widow as his own sex slave? Did Christ give the order to assassinate two poets who were opposing him?
Now who’s the basement dweller, you punk-ass dweeb?
You better go head for the hills buddy! So was the baby boom 50 years ago predicted? NO. What if a volcano erupts, causing a nuclear winter and have the population of the world dies? Your end of the world scenarios(in this case fundamentalist muslims take over the world) are nothing new. The key is that in yr paranoid delusions – you think that there is no difference between my friend Raj who lives in Calgary and works at Dominos Pizza and some fundamentalist living in a camp in Palestine. That is your problem my friend. NO that I expect to change yr mind – if you’re convinced the end is nye -so it will be. So why aren’t you pumping out 8 or 9 kids, or better yet why not go on a shooting spree and start taking the muslims out? That should convince everyone of your rational beliefs.
Who let the mad dogs out? I’m not going to debate a raving lunatic. I’ll just say this as far my experience goes, since my father was in the CF from the late 60’s to the mid 80’s, I been lucky to have been able to travel to many countries around the world, with my parents, including all around Europe as well as Lebanon and Isreal. My father has spent time in Cypress, Syria, Egypt and the holy lands and talked with and made friends with people there so if I take his word about what people are like over some nut who copies and pastes from hate sites, that’s too bad.
Todd..let’s try this from a different angle..do you read papers,or watch books?
Ok ..good..
Do you see what is happening in France, who post WW2 had a very small Muslim population?
Do you see on the tv or in the newspapers what happens when mass immigration reaches a tilting point?
It is already happening elsewhere, why do you think it could not happen here? What makes your Pizza making/driver friend so different or special?
France is full of men just like him, rioting on a nearly daily basis.
make that *watch TV*…
The fact that you can’t see the difference – is what makes it immpossible to have a conversation. I can’t even talk about the riots in France with you because you see everything through this narrow paranoid view of the world which in reality is much more complex, than the B&W view you have. Whatever, don’t die of fear. Good Luck.
Todd, your friend Raj at Dominos Pizza is a pathetically small footnote to throw out compared to the radicalized jihadi and Muslim fundamentalist minions worldwide. I’m sure Raj is sweet though. You’ll probably never have a problem with him unless your sister marries him and experiences up close Raj’s religion and culture’s treatment of women. Geez, Todd, the Koran encourages physically disciplining disobeying wives, a bummer if she ever utters that Mohammed or the in-laws suck. I’m not saying Raj is like that, but, the odds are he’s got Muslim male peers with misogynistic attitudes. Their religion is built on it. Or, haven’t you noticed?
There were plenty of dolts in the 1930’s that had your attitude, skeptics, throwing out the paranoid challenge, they had their smirking grins slapped off of their face in a few years.
By Las Vegas odds that volcano going off, smothering all of us in ashes in our lifetime, isn’t as high as a dirty bomb in an American or EU city in the next few years, so the wiser person prepares for the most probable.
btw yes I read books, you need to read a few more, travel a bit. Learn some history – for example it’s not a coincidence the immigrant parents of many of those rioting came from former french colonies. Q – Why are people born in a country still called immigrants? Finally as I feel like this is probably a waste of my time – How do you think most people in Canada would react if fans at a CFL game – threw bananas on the field at black players and made monkey noises! This should explain why I think that since you can’t understand the difference between my friend in Calgary, a young man in France and someone born and raised in Gaza for example, that trying to talk to you is a waste of time. OUt of here
We have to get our heads out of our asses, before the tune ‘Bomb Iran’ turns into ‘Bomb Canada’.
You people are even more insane than I realized – I have always disliked the term islamophobia but it seems to fit many of you here. To talk about germany in the thirties shows the level of your argument – I haven’t said anything about the radical movement started by Sayyid Qutb in Eygpt and Saudi Arabia,or Al-Queda, Al -Jhiad or any thing about any of that – so how do you claim to know my thought on these things? It was a mistake for me to think I could have an intelligent debate on here.
Political Islam’s pattern is just starting here. It’s a little further ahead in India. But it’s the same pattern:
Excerpts from an interview with Moorthy Muthuswamy, an expert on terrorism in India. He grew up in India, where he had firsthand experience with political Islam and jihad. He moved to America in 1984 to pursue graduate studies. In 1992, he received a doctorate in nuclear physics from Stony Brook University, New York. Since 1999 he has extensively published ideas on neutralizing political Islam’s terror war as it is imposed on unbelievers. He is the author of the new book, The Art of War on Terror: Triumphing over Political Islam and the Axis of Jihad.
Political Islamic ideology is found in the Islamic trilogy (Quran, Sira, Hadith). Confronting this ideology with science is a no-lose proposition and has the most potential for driving a wedge between the political Islam and educated Muslims. This should also lead to loss of prestige of Muslim clerics and weakening of nodes of network that spawn jihad – the mosques.
Educated Muslims are the backbone of the political Islamic movement. Clearly, madarasa-only educated Muslims do not have the requisite knowledge to operate effectively in the modern world; the college educated ones do.
Due to physical threats, the trilogy couldn’t be put under microscope in Islamic nations and political correctness has done the same in Western nations. But the existential threat arising from political Islam calls for taking a critical look at the trilogy.
During the last sixty years, from every Muslim majority area of South Asia – without exception – be it Pakistan, Bangladesh or from India’s own Kashmir valley, non-Muslims have been massively driven out to India. This occurred when the Muslim population there achieved political power through majority status. Also, laws and conditions have been put in place to deliberately marginalize non-Muslims. In almost all of these cases, mosques and the clerics played a major role in facilitating this “conquest”. In India the Muslim population percentage has increased from about 10 percent in 1951 to about 15 percent now. Even within 85 percent non-Muslim India, in some Muslim majority towns this phenomenon is getting repeated. These South Asian populations share language, food habits and culture but differ in religion. Clearly, these Muslim populations are influenced by political Islam.
Written orders were issued by Pakistan’s military high command to kill Hindus in the then East Pakistan in 1971. The largest religion-based genocide of the past fifty years was conducted as a result. Most of these expulsions and genocides occurred before 1972 – well before the large-scale infusion of petrodollars and Wahhabism.
Those who claim that oil money, Muslim “grievance” or “freedom fighting” are responsible for terror should think again. As noted earlier, political Islam’s fundamental emphasis on conquest is traced to the scripture level.
This data of non-Muslim expulsions from every Muslim majority area of South Asia implies that Muslims of this region do not believe in coexistence. This also points to intolerance among Indian Muslims (also substantiated in other ways). But due to their minority status they have not been able to completely impose their will on non-Muslim Indians. Still, Indian Muslim leaders have managed to lay siege to Indian democracy and have started to marginalize majority (to be discussed later) Hence, a fast-growing Muslim population within India can be seen as a looming genocidal threat to non-Muslim Indians.
Political Islam’s contemporary record of unbeliever genocide, backed by scriptures, has no parallels with any other faith. Hence, as part of preemption, non-Muslim majority nations are well-within their rights to categorize any mosque or any Muslim religious institution that stocks or distributes material derived from Islamic trilogy as an enemy entity – and shut them down if needed. Even if a mosque appears outwardly moderate in a Western nation, by preaching trilogy dominated by political Islam, it is still stealthily building up jihad in local Muslim community! Of course, mosques in Muslim majority nations are overt about advancing jihad.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=33ADCAA3-1E36-4665-881D-8E6C4F6C8D7B
“It was a mistake for me to think I could have an intelligent debate on here.”
No, your biggest mistake was to assume that you are intelligent in the first place. You’ve argued nothing other than your opinion based as it is on your limited and personal experiences. An example being Raj at Dominoes in Calgary. Whatever that means.
You have zero knowledge of the Islamic triology or the historical and continuing attrocities caused by it.
Yet you argue.
You are a fool.
LOL!! oh teach me wise one. Yeah I’ve only been to the middle east and talked to real people but that nothing compared to your sources like FrontPage and other such … that’s like learning about the civil rights movement from David Duke, or the Holocaust from David Irving … haha I guess you guys are just amusing until ” the night of broken convience store windows”
People like Todd are the obvious achievements of the left winged propaganda that’s been shoved down our children’s throats since the sixties. They can’t see the forest through the trees anymore even with the forest burning around them. People like Todd will be very sorry in years to come for their intelligent naivety, hopefully not as much for themselves but for the enslaved society they’ve left for their own children.
That is the ultimate goal of these extremists isn’t it? It’s not about extermination of western society as much as it’s about controlling it. Control is not being accomplished through military achievements but though our own political processes, our own weaknesses of misplaced tolerance and the birthrate “numbers” game.
Follow more closely the social structures in Islamic countries like Saudi Arabia and the domestic servitude forced on the South East Asian maids and you get the real picture of what they have in mind for us. It’s not just about the extremists, but also the simple moderate Muslims that believe that they are the masters and we are the disrespectful servants of their inherent greatness (yea and I have lived and worked amongst them).
I find it funny that the “riot’s in France” was commented on to look as if it’s the single issue Europe is facing with Muslims, and that this single issue has some big liberal excuse not worth mentioning to the uneducated western rednecks.
There is no excuse for the behavior and it’s occurring across Europe like a plague! The only fault the Europeans are guilty of is allowing it to have progressed in the first place. This was due to Europe’s own national self-resentments and liberal ideologies believing that everyone in the world was really just like them.
The leftist mental midgets continue throwing the politically correct shackles of freedom at sane people such as “paranoid” or racist, intolerant ect. Take your pick so long as you shut up and don’t confront us with facts and statistics. These people misuse all of these labels to silence as a weapon, instilling fear into the masses because they may question the appropriateness of their own cultural suicide.
Well said Knight99.
How do you think most people in Canada would react if fans at a CFL game – threw bananas on the field at black players and made monkey noises!
or hollowed out melons and stuck them on their heads, or ran a horse on the field with crap streaming out its butt, or dressed up like a bird.
Todd has a “little mosque on the prairie” view of Islam.
So when this muslim take-over of Canada fantasy happens at least the so-cons should be happy right – Capital Punishment, no more homos activists, religion in schools, no abortions, no slutty feminists – seems like a match made in heaven.
Cal2 – that actually happens frequently at european football matches. if you think Canada is just the same as Europe.
Todd, whatever happened to “OUt of here”?
And, why are we even debating Todd, whose best insight into Islam is Raj, his pizza purveyor?
See ya, Todd.
Unlike you and your moonbat species. I don’t believe we’ll allow that to happen.
The blowback starts with knowledge. Know your enemy. And the enemy is not Muslims in general. It is the ideology and the hate that it inspires in Muslims.
If you’ve got an argument in defence of the ideology of Islam as expressed in their texts, I’d certainly like to hear it.
Todd……. haha I guess you guys are just amusing until ” the night of broken convience store windows”
I’m guessing this statement is supposed to be considered a liberally intelligent play on words thus binding people concerned about their national identities and heritage to the Nazis? What it really confirms are my earlier statements showing how the liberal left tries to shame us into censored silence by misusing real world terms and events and changing their meanings and historical accuracies.
Prior to 1934 the Jewish peoples of Germany and Europe were not rioting and burning the foundations of their chosen host countries! They were also not gang raping the established communities in mass nor were they pushing their ideologies and religious intolerances on the state. ALL of Europe is a mess in 2007 and the only widows being broken are ones smashed by the Muslim hand.
“The night of the long knives” was a sick racial attack on innocents and in no way, shape or form reflects the ideologies of the North American populous. But witty comments such as Todd’s are supposed to make you feel that somehow you are associated with this kind of behavior, and should feel ashamed for some crime you never committed. Such is the way of the liberal left to censor your freedom of thought and expression. It happens every day in our media, universities and work places. Do not let them embarrass us into their delusional belief of the world though lies and spin.
The only shame to be bestowed is on personal comments such as Todd’s, selling out his own cultural identity all the while attempting to criminalize the society that has fed, clothed and “educated” him.
todd, here, sounds a whole lot like the idiot, teddy, on another thread. (For one thing, after repaeated exposures, neither has figured out that the word “Muslim” requires an upper case “M”. But, hey, what do conventions matter to these free [fall] spirits?)
Related to the subject here, here’s what I recently posted to “teddy” on the other thread:
“I altogether agree with irwin daisy, who seems to know what he’s talking about: opinion backed up by fact.
“I believe teddy’s altogether naive or just not thinking straight: I believe that the Muslims (this word should be capitalized, teddy: among other things, someone might think they’re being insulted!), who harbour and aid and abet the fanatics, are also culpable. To entirely let the general Muslim community off the hook is to altogether underestimate both the threat AND accountability. (I suspect that teddy is from the ‘whatever’ generation: that group of poorly socialized freeloaders, who wouldn’t recognize responsibility and true neighbourliness–the Golden Rule–if they jumped up and down and screamed at him. He probably says ‘No problem’ instead of ‘You’re welcome’.)
“Think, teddy, of all the Germans in the vicinity of the concentration camps, who claimed to know nothing was amiss. Do you admire these people? Do you believe them? Change the context: how about all the Muslims in the West who never make any comment about the atrocities perpetrated in the name of their prophet and their faith. Do you admire them? Do you respect their silence?
“It seems you do. On what grounds? You’re playing with the adults here, teddy. You’re not allowed to hide under your blanket.
“Speak up!”
(If it’s not too much to ask, perhaps todd might consider infusing a little bit of intelligence and knowledge into his posts.)
gotta go but – by your logic -since David Koresh and the Branch Davidians use the Christian bible and are a sect of the Cristian religion all christians are responsible for their actions and the Holy Bible is responsible for those at Waco and the way they interpted the scripture.
It’s been fun!
todd, what are these “holy lands” you speak of?
Re my last post: I guess not.
‘Bye, todd!
ET and irwin, a great posts, but, let’s continue past Canada for the full horror of the left’s denigration of western culture.
Expansionist/militant Islam has been a sleeper for centuries, only awakening when it correctly perceived that Lefties in the West would be an easy mark, be it in Canada, the US or the EU. As a religion of conquest and duplicity, it got that right.
Todd is the typical voice of the uninformed muddled dumb. He’s got a nice friend who is a Muslim, hence all evidence that Islam is a violent cult must be wrong, your basic ethnic food festival lefty’s naivety. The worse culprits are the “smart” Useful Idiots in politics, the MSM and academia that have enough information by now, 9/11 wasn’t enough?, to have figured out that continuing their pc and multi-culti crap is going to harm their kids and bring misery to many.
Every election counts. We must in every western country defeat every politician that has and is facilitating the Islamist. No small task, but, surrender isn’t an option.
No one has sufficiently proved to me that Raj, the pizza guy, was critically needed in western economies. I doubt it. He is better needed as a plantation slave brought in for the lefts need for voter fodder.
It appears by his reactions we’ve struck close to home with commenter “todd”.
He probably had to go off to call to prayer at his local Mosque.
Did Todd leave before I could call him an uninformed idiot too?
Remember the Liberal Leadership race with the Muslim Block standing around looking uncomfortable. They have decided to be Liberal and the Liberals will cherish and protect them as sure votes.
There are lots of muslims like ‘raj’who are sweet guys,not a violent bome in thier body. I deal with them on a daily basis. These sweet guys also do not allow thier wives to exchange civil pleasantries with me. Some of the women will if ‘sweet hubby’or any other males are not around,but never when they are. One lady made the mistake of opening the door while I was talking to her ‘sweet hubby’without her head covered. Big no-no,the next day she was walking as if she fell down a flight of stairs. These women know thier place is under the heel of ‘sweet hubby’s’ boot and to avoid the punishment,they behave accordingly. Therefore ‘sweet hubby’ appears benevolent,everything is serene and peaceful.BS. Islam is a brutal,barbaric cult that does not belong in a civilized country. Those who apologize and hold up ‘sweet raj’ as an example of their peaceful nature do not know what goes on when the doors are closed.
Frontpage Interview’s guest today is Moorthy Muthuswamy, an expert on terrorism in India. He grew up in India, where he had firsthand experience with political Islam and jihad. He moved to America in 1984 to pursue graduate studies. In 1992, he received a doctorate in nuclear physics from Stony Brook University, New York. Since 1999 he has extensively published ideas on neutralizing political Islam’s terror war as it is imposed on unbelievers. He is the author of the new book, The Art of War on Terror: Triumphing over Political Islam and the Axis of Jihad.
Jihad in India
Happy Eid Todd… he would be a natural, hes got their approach and taqiyya down and he thinks just like a Muslim too.
Teaser from my link at 7:07pm. In the marked section he tells us the myth and his answer to it in parentheses: (must read interview)
Muthuswamy: Because the political Islamic movement is driven by a conquest-oriented medieval ideology and outlook, it behaves like a “germ”. Dialogue or accommodation is simply not possible. Second, this movement is entrenched among Muslim populations and importantly, is networked, with multiple power centers or nodes. This means classical approach of predominantly using diplomacy and/or military force, along with aid is not effective. This may be the reason why our traditional Think Tanks are struggling to come up with a coherent policy response that our political leaders could rely on.
We are fighting this war with a number of preconceived notions. I have debunked many critical ones in my book. Let me mention a few (within the brackets are my retorts):
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Democracy is the solution to radical Islam. (No, in order for functional democracies to take root, political Islam must first be neutralized.);
A widely practiced religion must have a strong moderate component. (No again, free wealth can create conditions for complete domination of extremism.);
The fight within Islam is between moderates and extremists. (No, the fight is between different extremist groups or schools of thought.);
We must use moderates in Islam to fight extremists. (We must use a fundamentally different approach: using science-based arguments to help liberate educated Muslims so that they are empowered to neutralize political Islamic movement from within.);
Ideology is the strong suit of Muslim radicals. (No, seen through common sense, derived from science, it is political Islam’s weak link.);
We can rely on moderate leaders in nations such as Pakistan or Saudi Arabia. (The de facto power in these nations are political Islamic movements, this makes these leaders ineffective in stopping these nations from being fountainheads of terror.);
Grievances drive Muslim populations into anger and towards terror. (No, most grievances are manufactured to channel Muslim energies towards jihad.).
By the holy lands I meant Bethlehem, Jerusalem, and Nazzareth. My dad visited the manger where Jesus was born and other places. He bought slides as well as took some of his own pictures which we watched at christmas.
I think you misunderstand me by wanting to stereotype me as some crazy liberal when in fact one of my favorite politicians is Barry Goldwater.
I understand the threat posed by Al-queda, and I’ve always supported the mission in Afghanistan. One of the very best books on the subject – The Looming Tower.
I just don’t happen to believe that all Muslims worldwide are part of some fanitical constant threat to our very survial. The idea they are all some how fanitically devot and secretly can’t wait to control the world. Sounds way to much like Nazi propaganda to me. Just because someone writes something on the internet doesn’t make it true.
And I really have a hard time figuring that all the muslims in Canada will get together and all want to force everyone to convert and live here like were in Saudia Arabia when most of them got out of there cause they couldn’t stand it. If what you’re really saying is that you want a majority white christian country, just say that.
It better to be honest than spout some garbage.