Where are our new Canadians from China, India, Japan, Korea, the Philippines and the rest of Asia?
Sixty four of the 66 Canadian military personnel killed in Afghanistan since the start of the mission in 2002 are white Canadians. The other two are black Canadians.
There is something not right with this picture.
Walk in downtown Vancouver, Toronto or Montreal and you will be greeted with a glorious mosaic of cultures, mingling and mixing, sharing and caring, fighting for and defending all things Canadian.
Look at the queue of soldiers heading into a Hercules transport bound for Afghanistan – it is overwhelmingly white and male.
This stark contrast clearly illustrates that visible minorities are vastly under-represented in the Canadian Armed Forces.
I took a cab to the Dieppe ceremony at the cenotaph in Ottawa recently. The immigrant cab driver was fairly mocking when I told him what the fuss was all about – the phrase “soldiers with their little guns” was used.
Multiculturalism has made it clear to our immigrants – they are not Canadians. They are merely extending the land base of their Original Homeland into the geographic territory called Canada.
They are not expected to assimilate and become Canadian. They are expected to repeat and repeat the beliefs and behaviour of their Original Homeland.
Fight for Canada? Since they represent an Other country – then, that thought doesn’t even occur to them. They aren’t Canadians; they are members of various ethnic, religious, linguistic peoples – who are simply extending themselves, geographically and spatially, into the space called Canada.
Nothing to do with Being Canadian. Multiculturalism insists that they are not; they are re-presenting their Original Identity. Therefore, what they will ‘fight’ for – is political recognition and financial support from the Canadian gov’t – to re-present this Original Identity. That’s multiculturalism. It’s in our Charter of ‘Rights’.
The fact is ‘new Canadians’ from the third world aren’t really Canadians. They’re here because of the economy and don’t give a s**t about the nation. We can thank the Liberals for this wave of non-patriotic economic migrants.
Yes, but I do notice that certain groups are real quick to call for the Canadian military to go bail out their sorry ass family’s lives when the shit hits the fan in these 3rd world hellholes.
NEW DIRECTIVE: ONLY CANADIAN FORCES PERSONNEL WITH CULTURAL LINKS TO A REGION WILL BE DEPLOYED TO THAT REGION WHEN TASKED WITH HUMANITARIAN AID MISSIONS
In other words, if that was a real directive, we would only be serving in Europe. Pathetic!
We can also thank Brian Mulroney for this, he bought into multiculturalism’s political advantages big time.
Worked with some ME immigrants on a construction site in Vancouver a few years back. Their hatred of the Jews was appalling, and when I mentioned they could leave their wars back home, we don’t want it over here, they called me what I assumed was an uncomplimentary name in their language, laughed, and wouldn’t talk to me anymore.
I gathered, from their coffee break conversation, that if hostilities arose between our countries, they sure as hell wouldn’t have fought for Canada.
Idea. Have taliban jack and bombardion form up the new “multiculti brigade”. We can equip them with flowers, guitars and doves. They can prance around the globe, saving humanity from all of the bad people out there. I am sure that they would be well received by the majority of tin pots and mad mullahs.
Kate – I never thought you would put up an anti-war message! Way to go!
The solution for the political correctoes is obvious — a multi-culti draft!
The ignorant POS that wrote this article needs an education.
As Fenris would say what would you expect from heteronormative Vimy Ridge Canadians.
“Why are all the Canadian soldiers being killed in Afghanistan white?”
It’s because the demographics of the Forces is mostly white. Or would you prefer the CAF to have an employment equity program where a certain percentage of military members have to be women, black, asian, native, or handicapped?
Change the laws for gaining cdn citizenship. Must be drafted into a combat unit for 3 yrs and serve overseas in the country you illegally gained entry to canada from. Multiculturism must be stopped. No more refugees allowed from any ME country. Ban islam from Canada. No more korans, if bibles can’t be in hotels or given out in schools, neither can korans be distributed anywhere.
Relax amigos. It is not like Afghanistan is a real war. We are rolling around in tanks and LAVs and whatnots, while the Taliban are scampering on their motorbikes and pickup trucks.
Lighten up. Don’t be such constipated blowhards, or you will all turn into Senator Larry Craig of Idaho.
It is a curious question. The Sikhs form a large and visible minority in Canada, and they have a long and glorious history of military service with the forces of the British Empire. Unlike Hindus, they are the opposite of pacifists. With a little encouragement, I would expect some excellent Sikh soldiers in Canadian units.
Again, quite a few First Nations people have in the past served with the Canadian forces, and some of our best snipers were of First Nations origin.
Iroquois, especially Mohawk, served with the American forces in Vietnam and are probably serving with them now in Iraq. They also have no truck with pacifist traditions. The Canadian forces need to do some work to recruit people such as these, with a martial tradition, who value the skills and the work of the soldier.
Landed immigrants often see soldiers as the people that oppressed them in their home countries and as tools of a corrupt and undemocratic govt. This kind of mentality also exists in places like Germany or Russia and almost all Asian countries.
As most immigrants in Canada came after the 1960s, I would think it’s a generational thing. I’d recommend making citizenship tougher to obtain by imposing a tour of duty (ie. Hispanics in the US military example) with an exception of course for people who are better used in a lab (doctors, scientists, etc.)
The thing is, many people who immigrate to Canada do so to get AWAY from violence. Ditto goes for their children, who are raised and told about their parents troubles and horrors in their home countries.
Question – how many of the posters here have served in the military? I know some of you have, but exactly how many?
My point exactly.
To Mr. Stalins henchman,
Read the link. An ethnic newspaper from BC, the Asia-Pacific Post says that ” new Canadiams…must permeate and be present in all aspects of Canada, that includes the Candaian Forces”
So this is not about wanting quotas or affirmative action, or any of that ilk. I think you would find most readers of this blog to be totally opposed to said quota’s. The question is why are the new canadians referred to in the article not joining in numbers representative of their population?
Kate’s headline, for lack of a better term, is just an attention grabbing spin on that question.
“It’s because the demographics of the Forces is mostly white. Or would you prefer the CAF to have an employment equity program where a certain percentage of military members have to be women, black, asian, native, or handicapped?”
No, the preference is to have immigrants assume on their own without coercion some of the responsibilities that come with citizenship.
No one wants equity programs … except the NDP and other similar goofballs.
Seems that Kate wants to see more Canadian soldiers killed, especially the immigrant soldiers.
At least we now know where you truly stand. I’ll be sending this story to several people I know.
White males are dying in Afghanistan because they are clinging to those old passe cultural values that one’s country is worth fighting for.
How silly. They should stay home drink beer and act as stupid as they are portrayed on so many sit-coms where bitchy women, spoiled brat kids, and intellectual faggots make them look even stupider.
Indeed, multiculturalism, feminism and permissiveness all brought to us by the Left, are the ruination and downfall of our once great culture. I am as sad as I am angry.
Our politicians are entirely to blame since they have the power to change this, but will not. Their pandering to the imports for votes means more to them than the survival of Western values. Their own children will one day, piss on their graves.
When I was a soldier back in the 80’s there was a good number of Asians both in the Ranks and Officers mess. They made excellent soldiers. For most immigrants the military is considered a “low caste” job based on their homeland experiences. The concept of duty to your country above and beyond your self, family, tribe or clan can be foreign to them.
However a lack of commitment to your new homeland is a serious symptom of a deeper problem that will cause serious social issues down the road. Canada exists because the people that came here wanted to make it a better place and made sacrifices to do so. If the people you allow in have no stake in our future, we will be cutting our own throats.
I personally like the idea of encouraging Gurkha’s to serve with our armed forces to win citizenship and immigration for their families.
The CF is pretty white, but 64 of 66 is not representative – sometimes luck or chance plays a role. I would also say that the Reserves are a lot more diverse than the Regs. In Vancouver we had folks with Korean, Chinese, Filipino, Japanese and Egyptian backgrounds. Toronto units tended to have a fair number of blacks. Most of these guys were 2nd or their generation, and in the case of the Asians (except Koreans) their parents were genally horrified/mystified at their choice to join the Army (so were mine – nice Jewish boys don’t do that). I personally know that some of these guys have served overseas, either in FRY or Afstan.
All that said, there has been a grit-washing of Canada’s miliatry history – and why would any smart immigrant want to join something he “knows” is a joke? Multi-culti has also played its part, though I would say that it retards integration/assimilation, but doesn’t kill it all together, at least among some groups. Oh, and the guy from Egypt was so f**ked when it came to winter warfare.
“I’ll be sending this story to several people I know.”
No, JohnnyRingo, No!!!!
Where’s your humanity? Don’t … send … it … to … people … you … know!
Um, so you agree with Kate that more non-white Canadian soldiers should be dying in Afghanistan, Matt?
Colin. I served in the eighties as well, and I remember people of Japanese descent, that was about it. And yes, quite a few natives, and both groups were excellent soldiers. I think it is time for the children of the latest waves of immigration to stand up. My father came from Italy in the 50’s, and his greatest pride was that all 3 of his sons joined the military. Time to pony up, multicultists.
OMMAG:
“The ignorant POS that wrote this article needs an education.”
Why don’t you read the whole goddamned article before commenting? The author was LAMENTING the fact that more immigrants do not enter the armed forces. He says among other things “If we as new Canadians do not hesitate to fight for equal rights, we must also not hesitate to defend those rights. Our strength as new Canadians must not only be measured in economic terms.
We must permeate and be present in all aspects of Canada. That includes the Canadian Forces.” Who’s the ignorant one now OMMAG?
No, what you wrote was “Seems that Kate wants to see more Canadian soldiers killed, especially the immigrant soldiers.”
That is a lie.
Did you send that lie off to your friends?
@ johnnyringo…
Would that be Taliban Jack, Johnny? Or some sniveling turds at CBC or CTV? You pathetic leftard you.
I would also say that the Reserves are a lot more diverse than the Regs.
That is definitely true. It seems that for most immigrants a career in the CF is not desirable, but for some serving their new country still is. The Reserve provides a good avenue for this. I think also that the Navy has a much higher percentage of visible minorities than the Army.
Even so, their enrollment in the military is not representative of the population as a whole. Many come to Canada with strong anti-military feelings based on experiences and perceptions in their native land. We don’t help change this attitude with our widespread anti-military sentiment in the media and among certain politicians.
Even white Canadians aren’t exactly knocking down the doors at recruiting centres. The CF is having a hell of a time trying to increase its numbers.
Give them time, the ethnic gangs’ll twig on soon enough that sending some of their members for a military stint will vastly improve the quality of their violence.
“They don’t see the writing on the wall with regards to demographic change in the country. Basically, if you just keep recruiting white males, you’re going to run out of qualified people.”
Is that what you do, Jeffy? Copy content from other blogs and post it at your own normally-ignored site?
That is the ultimate in lazy.
Matt, do you think that more immigrant soldiers should be getting killed in Afghanistan?
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I think we’ve all made this observation a long time ago. We’re still waiting for the immigrant population to love this country enough to serve it. I fear that with the climate in Canada these past twenty years, it may be a long time in coming.
I wonder what kind of nation we would be if we had mandatory service after high school, similar to Israel or South Korea? I think we would have a markedly different outlook on our country and the world. We might even value our country and its rights and privileges more.
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“matt said… Is that what you do, Jeffy? Copy content from
other blogs and post it at your own normally-ignored site?”
what’cha talkin about… jeffy’s had 13 hits today alone.
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Jeff and Lavrenti Beria,
Well, you just may be that ignorant but I still find it hard to believe that it is not an act.
It is not a matter of just recruiting white males. Since we are an all volunteer army, we take from what is offered. Non-whites need to apply. If they do not, the question is why not and where is there loyalty to Canada?
Lavrenti, I suggest RTFA.
At last years Rememberance Day ceremony there was a parade of Cadets. Overwhelmingly it too was white. My wife and I noticed and commented on it back then.
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“JohnnyRingo mumbled… Um, so you agree with Kate that
more non-white Canadian soldiers should be dying in
Afghanistan”
is this what passes for logical discourse over at rabble.ca?
lord love a duck.
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My youngest son went from the citizenship ceremony straight to the recruiting office and will join the Canadian forces in 2008. My daughter will follow a year later. We became Canadians after having lived and worked in Canada for 14 years. We are Canadians now and proud of it. I am too old to join the Canadian military, but I served in the military of the country of my birth for several years. I and my family believe that freedom is not free but comes at a cost, we are willing to do our part to keep our country (Canada) free. We came here to make a better life for ourselves and we did well. I know that those on the left will sneer at that, but we don’t care. Since we are white it doesn’t matter anyway what we say or do.
Never mind race, I find it interesting the MSM made a certain point of troops leaving from Quebec all the while Albertans are the ones sholdering the heaviest burden…
Paul Martin’s favourite slogan was ‘We’re a country of minorities.’
Except when it comes to defending the country and sacrificing your life.
“Seems that Kate wants to see more Canadian soldiers killed, especially the immigrant soldiers.
At least we now know where you truly stand. I’ll be sending this story to several people I know.”
– Johnny Ringo
Rather than your question to Kate, obviously you prefer to see only white males killed?
And, oh no, now he’s got us, he’s sending his ill-thought out, illogical conclusion to everybody he knows! We’re doomed!
Another example of a peanut brained leftard. Do humanity a favour and don’t procreate.
lberia: “Or would you prefer the CAF to have an employment equity program where a certain percentage of military members have to be women, black, asian, native, or handicapped?”
The Canadian public service, the cops, and many corporations already have gender/race quotas favouring women and minorites, lberia, so I don’t think it is unreasonable to place the onus on you to explain why we make an exception to the status quo of quotas when it comes to staffing the Canadian military.
Enough, I worked with Air Cadets in BC. I can tell you a significant percentage, even half, especially from Vancouver area, were of Chinese and Indian descent. Their parents saw this as an excellent opportunity for discipline, teamwork, citizenship and physical fitness for their kids. I know this doesn’t necessarily translate into regular or reserve force recruiting, but awareness of the Canadian military is also a stated goal of the Cadet Cadre.
Notwithstanding ET’s comments re: multiculturalism, perhaps part of the skewed demographics is cultural. When your parents, grandparents, and indeed you, came from a country where the military was an agent of repression, corrupt and cruel, a military career might not be considered an attractive alternative.
Just in opinion, of course.
Note also that all who have died for Queen and Country in Afghanistan are men.
sheesh – lberia. What kind of an explanation is that? The question was – why is the Canadian military primarily ‘white’. And you answered – because ‘they are white’. Quite the tautology.
Try examining WHY it is only ‘white’ people who volunteer and join the military. OK?
johnny ringo – heck you are even more illogical than lberia.
You claim that IF you are a soldier, THEN you will be killed.
That’s false. Did you know that there are more deaths from violence in one city, Toronto, in one year – than over the four years in Afghanistan?
Using your illogical assumption, one has to say
IF you live in Toronto, THEN you will be killed.
Equally false.
Your next claim is that the military exists only To Be Killed. Modern warfare, johnny ringo, isn’t the same as the movies.
Your next assumption is that there shouldn’t be any military – because IF you are a soldier, THEN you’ll be killed. OK – that means that you promote being taken over by military dictators and thugs. No fighting back. Allow Hitler, Stalin, Hussein, Bin Laden – to rule over you.
And you next – equally illogical and fallacious assumption is that anyone who wants immigrants to feel strongly enough about Canada to want to defends its beliefs and role in the world – merely wants them killed off. That’s illogical – because all your other assumptions are FALSE.
Try again. This time, check for logical connections.
Holy cow JohnnyRingo – talk about spin…
Seems that Kate wants to see more Canadian soldiers killed, especially the immigrant soldiers.
At least we now know where you truly stand. I’ll be sending this story to several people I know.
WOW – just…wow!!
Please back up your knowledge of the truth with where you learned a source please. I have read this post and nowhere do i see her state what you suggest she does. As a matter of fact, all i see is a simple reply to a story in the AsiaPacificPost where she states…
Indeed. Read the rest.
Via Mark Collins
Fairly harmless sentiment i believe… Not for some apparently:
Um, so you agree with Kate that more non-white Canadian soldiers should be dying in Afghanistan, Matt?
Speechless
A less intelligent internet comment i have never seen…
Your world must be very difficult to deal with on a daily basis – good luck with it all.
JohnnyRingo … I guess that’s easier to type than JohnnyNotTooBright.
Listen, JR, you are a liar. That much is clear. Send that to “several people you know.”
Then go back to the story at the end of the link and re-read, this time without using your finger to follow along, without moving your lips, and see if you can understand it this time.
Roy: that is patently not true. Capt. Nichola Goddard was killed in a firefight in May 2006.