74 Replies to “What Part Of “Servant” Did He Not Understand?”
Money=Yummy
responsibility= Not My Job.
Rather hypocritical of him to take a government job.
Idiot. His role was to do his tiny part in implementing policy regardless of government’s orientation. He can privately criticize whatever he wants — as long as that doesn’t spill into his work. If he wishes to try influencing or making policy, he can run for office.
Sometimes I get so riled up about the sins of alcohol I need a drink.
Shaken…Dont get all stirred up over this!
Maybe he thinks he’s working for the Liberal Party, not the Government of Canada. Duh.
I just caught the replay of Jeffrey “Butters” Monaghan’s newser.
What can you say about a guy who explains that his job is to assemble the daily clippings, then segues into a supposedly authoritative diatriabe about Kyoto, to justify his firing offence?
You are a ‘snivel serpent’, you are not paid to formulate policy. You are paid to execute policy. If you want to formulate policy get elected.
Given my experience, there are a few who don’t think or research before they write letters either. Notably, from Canada Revenue Agency.
Perhaps he will argue stupidity is a Charter right.
The job of ‘snivel serpents’ is not to broadcast policy while it is in the formulation/execution stage.
If one comes forward publicly ‘outside the loop’ that calls itself Ottawa, then it should be for a good reason like exposing government wrongdoing.
The condition of employ is non-disclosure of public policy before it is announced; like any budget lockup.
cf Ralph Goodale, Scott Brison, et al. on the Income Trust file
I’d like to see some dummy justify this when working on a sensitive Defence Dept. file when lives are at stake.
Dear Mr & Mrs X your son/daughter are dead because I can’t comprehend the conditons of my employment.
Sincerely,
Dumb Bunny
The real loser in the discussion is not the moronic term who managed to score some public cash, but the low wattage fluorescent from the Public Service Alliance. Moron got what he deserved. PSAC has swung so far the left they’ve become an embarrassment to EVERYBODY in Government, including their components.
Ha ha ha! Anarchist pretends he’s an outsider but he actually belongs to the establishment and spends most of his time trying to increase the establishment’s power! Who’s he think he’s foolin’?
im wondering who hired this jerk.
Surely theres some kind of vetting process.
Soccermom said: “Maybe he thinks he’s working for the Liberal Party, not the Government of Canada. Duh.”
In a good many departments, he would be working for the LPC. CPC hasn’t even come close to housecleaning all of the party hacks from the departments. Thwarting conservative policy is SOP in many departments still. After 13 years, a very high percentage of civil servants (now officially called “public administrators”) have known nothing else but Libranoism, and a very high number owe their status to the Libs. There is an incredible amount of housecleaning to be done, just to get back to a remotely competent ethical middle management. Liberals took a LOT of ministerial authority away from the cabinet ministers through the creation of agencies and foundations. Many like Carol Skelton, are largely titular.
Well put Hans
VL
“Alleged” and “not charged with any crime.” Yup, looks like a good candidate for a summary execution. Sheesh! I guess “innocent until proven guilty” doesn’t mean anything anymore.
he is also a member of an anarchist collective that runs a bookstore in Ottawa, and plays drums in a punk band called the Suicide Pilots.
Yeah what a loser, trying to hide a P.C. pro-establishment attitude by posing as a punk rocker.
“Alleged” and “not charged with any crime.” Yup, looks like a good candidate for a summary execution. Sheesh! I guess “innocent until proven guilty” doesn’t mean anything anymore.
How about Stupid Asshat until proven legible?
The public service will never ever be non-partisan. I am not even going to comment on Monaghan because he is obviously another one of these frothy-mouthed progressives. That is to be expected from that sort.
The really scary thing is that we have this mammoth organization called the public service which is never really supportive of a Conservative government. Never mind Monaghan, look at what Patty Ducharme says: ‘It sort of speaks to the whole tone of this government and their value of public service workers.’ She is as frothy-mouthed as the anarchist drummer boy.
He plays in a punk band….wonder if Warren knows him
sheesh, lberia, you are missing the point. Or deliberately trying to divert the point.
I guess integrity, ethics, morality and professionalism don’t mean anything anymore.
This young man, on his own initiative, took a document marked SECRET and distributed it to the Press.
sheesh, I guess ‘Secret’ on an official document doesn’t mean anything anymore.
He sent this document to the press because HE, an unelected and unaccountable-for-his-actions individual, decided that HE didn’t agree with it.
sheesh, I guess the electorate doesn’t mean anything anymore.
After all, the electorate didn’t elect Monaghan to make decisions about the environment; they elected MPs in all parties to do that.
He added his own comments to his missive, stating that he profoundly disagreed with the Conservative’s environmental program.
sheesh, I guess accountability doesn’t mean anything anymore. If he wants to make policy, he should get himself elected.
If he wants to criticize policy, he should do so in blogs, in writing to his MPs, in opinion pieces to the editor and etc.
But, to take a gov’t document, clearly marked SECRET, and, send it to the press
sheesh, I guess integrity and professional ethics don’t matter anymore.
And then, rather than acknowledging this clear violation of the professional rules of his employment, and this lack of integrity, he says that any criticism of his action is a ‘witch hunt’. How? Why does he insist that he and his behaviour can’t be criticized? After all, he took it upon himself to criticize the gov’t – and to violate the rules of his employment. So?
Just heard his blubbering statement on radio and he mentions everyone’s hero David Suzuki.
He was just trying to save the world cause no one but Gore, Suki, and he really care and we should be the only country to implement the socialist wealth disribution Kyoto scheme.
It is time CRA pulled Suzuki’s charitable status!
lberia said:
“”Alleged” and “not charged with any crime.” Yup, looks like a good candidate for a summary execution. Sheesh! I guess “innocent until proven guilty” doesn’t mean anything anymore.”
If “lberia” stands for Lavrentiy Beria, then I see much irony your comment. 😛
lberia, I was an employee of the Saskatchewan government for 9 years (1984 – 1993). If I had leaked confidential info because I as a Tory had disagreed with the direction the then incoming NDP administration was taking, I’d have been fired in a heart beat with loss of all accrued benefits. And, I’d have deserved it.
I totally look like a narc.
Which makes my occasional visits to Jeff’s new Marxist bookstore all the more enjoyable 🙂
Seriously, the sight of a middle aged white male wearing proper clothing in their bookstore makes them visibly nervous.
there is little screening. The guy is a temp doing a job that is usually done by a high school daughter of some constituency supporter.
What a knob. He should be charged and fined. If the court backs him up then we have bigger problems.
The Clerk of the Privy Council should be appoplectic!
Wow…some are pretty quick to dismiss all public servatns because of one person’s actions. Assigning collective guilt/politic views based on the action of a few…hardly seems inline with most conservative poistions.
Last time I check the Ottawa area had quite a few CPC MPs, surely some public servants vote Blue.
I’ll bet his mother works in the same department.
How is this different that a whistleblower? ala adscam?
dkjones,
Are you serious?
I think this guys actions really undermine the democratic process. It was correct for Environment Canada Security branch to be concerned. And (as one might expect) the environmentalists will use the incident to take a swipe at the government. The only “heavy handed” aspect of this were the handcuffs, and there is no evidence whatsoever that the decision to use handcuffs was anyone’s but the arresting officer. Being “escorted” off the property is standard practice. I recently heard of a case at UBC where a librarian was escorted off the property by security. That’s what happens when people are dismissed. So — I think protests regarding the perp’s “treatment” are really being overdone. It is Monaghan himself (clearly prodded on by the Environmental groups) who is escalating this into a major incident. Unfortunately, the press (as usual) does not see past the surface-level politicing going on.
Ha ha ha! Anarchist pretends he’s an outsider but he actually belongs to the establishment and spends most of his time trying to increase the establishment’s power! Who’s he think he’s foolin’?
Nailed it!
The scarey part is that a large number of these fools are in our goverment and worst of all in our schools teaching our children. The further left you go the more naive you seem to get. These people in general think they stand for peace and the environment, but in fact they are unwittingly enabling, and at some high-up levels conspiring with they very people who oppose peace. Furthermore in the unlikley event the sabotage is successful,we then leave it to our friends from the middle ages to save the earth. A group that fundamentally denies science.
Good job guys
The guy states that “… domestic and international law … legal responsibilities”
Is this true or is he making it up?
I see a couple of problems with his story:
1. He claims he compiles news clippings for the Minister’s Office . . . fine, but that is not done in the Minister’s Office on the 28th floor of Terrasses de la Chaudiere in Gatineau, it is done in Communications Branch which is on the other side of the door to the M.O which is kept locked at all times.
2. As a “Clippie” he would have access to newspapers and transcripts from the media but NOTHING classified as ‘Confidential’, ‘Enhanced’ or ‘Secret’. So, where did he get the document? It was not something he would have had access to on a legitimate basis. So, from whom was the document stolen before it was passed on to a third party? From a desk in the Minister’s Office? From a senior employee in Communications Branch who was working on a speech or the like?
That’s why he’s trouble, he stole from the Crown.
If you want to get really ill, read the comments in the Globe. He states he leaked it to the press a week ahead of the other leak. Paul Hunter said they had a copy. Did they print it, or turn it over to rcmp or Baird, and did the press call in the rcmp. What union was it that passed a resolution last year to support the terrorists, or some such thing. How old is this so called person. And what was his job. Shows his ability in the work field. And perhaps, the govt is suspicios that others have leaked important documents, but couldn’t prove it. A message has been sent, follow the rules or get arrested and fired. A whistle blower would be someone who knew he did this, and reported it. He is not a whisleblower, he is a spy and should be charged with treason. How many of his kind are in the public service, just waiting for dion to take over. But, what if Harper gets his majority. We need an election, as it appears the opposition plans to govern for the next 2 yrs, by introducing motions against the government. The motion today is a money bill, and what if Harper calls it that if it comes to a vote. Enough of playing nice with dion and talijack. If dion gets a minority, he has taught Harper how to act in opposition.
This guys and idiot, but did anyone catch the liberal defense of government leaks on the news last night … no bloody wonder they don’t get why the RCMP is investigating the Income Trust fiasco. “leaks in government happen all the time” … yeah buddy they do, but not when stock market transactions are in play!!! If this was some Health Canada policy, I don’t think arrests would have taken place.
That being said, he sounds like moron he is … but more scary is the notion that this guy didn’t expect that security would be involved. Ideological dissention is not the role of a bureaucrat. Even as a temp I’m sure he signed some kind of confidentially agreement, I know I did 15 years ago when I worked temp. for Transport Canada, and I was definately not in a “confidential” role.
The Toronto Star has a link to his punk band site, The Suicide Pilots, which shows a plane about to crash into the Canadian Parliament Buildings.
Ahh – the stupidity and the arrogance.
No, he isn’t a whistle-blower – despite the fervent attestations of his being so by the NDP and the Liberals. A w-b is someone who observes illegal activities within a system and informs the authorities.
Certainly, as the Liberals (Mark Holland) have shown us, the Liberals and NDP have no principles, no ethical integrity, and are only too pleased to open private files, to have civil servants breach their oath of trust and send them secret documents. That is the ‘high road’ claimed by Stephane Dion. Heh.
A document that has not been released is not public in any sense of the word; it is private to the minister and/or committee that is developing it. It is illegal to remove it and publicize it.
Monaghan ought to be fired and fined, if not jailed, for breach of the public trust. We, the taxpayers, do not pay our civil servants to breach their oath of integrity and duty, and send private documents into the public eye.
I will bet you anything that a “27” year old civil servant has hardly started working for government. I would also guess that the guy joined to, perhaps, just pull a stunt like this.
There also is no valid analogy between someone like him leaking the story and a Minister or the PMO “leaking” an announcement. Government’s can release trial ballons, engage reporters, stakeholders, even brief opposition leaders before an announcement. What he has done is none of these. He released a time sensitive document that was no longer a “Secret” once the Minister announced it.
Also, just what was he “whistle-blowing”? What impropriety was he pointing too?
“But he did say he got his short-term contract at the media monitoring section of Environment Canada through a human resources firm in order to sidestep government employment procedures.”
And, if he was working in a media monitoring position, he should would have not been working on any communications plan for the release of the plan or any similar document. Wonder how he might
gotten a hold of that? hmmmmm…
ET:
Your comments reminded me of the dope who removed the hard drives from a government computer which contained the entire tax files for the residents of Saskatchewan.
All a twit like this would have to have done was hook it up to a server and broadcast over the internet violating at least a dozen laws.
I get a kick out of Iberia, it is no longer an ‘allegation’ when you hold a press conference admitting you leaked information.
If the guy vehemently disagrees with the policy, join the political party of your choice and attempt to effect change. The workplace for ‘snivel serpents’ is not the place to play advocate for policy.
Of course the advent of Adscam all but put the boots to the notion that public servants could work objectively within their legislative framework or take account of known facts.
Who needs the rule book, we’re throwing out the rule book. Who needs democracy when we have LIEberaldom?
LONG LIVE THE REVOLUTION!!! LONG LIVE LIEBERALDOM!
Hans and ET:
According to the news item, “Monaghan did not confess, or deny, to leaking the document during the press conference.”
So, when did he admit to anything? You two must be some sort of crime fighting dynamic duo with ESP. When you’re not posting here do you dress up as Batman and Robin?
Thank goodness I came here to read posts from some very sensible and balanced people. If I had just stayed in the media area…imagine how depressed I would be now.
thank you bob and maryT and andrewNS and Linda and Acooper, ET Zilla, joant (sorry those missed)and most of you who have brought out so many valid points..I feel so much better knowing your views and you are not even media …yipppeee
ET is correct, it’s a matter of breach of public trust.
Of course, some people don’t know what trust means.
You just have to love the union’s response. To paraphrase what they said,” We don’t know what he did but whatever it is that he did the government response was much too harsh”. Well union people,some call it breach of trust,I harshly call it theft.
Typical ad hominem attacks on someone who does not Praise PM Steve. Predictable.
Yawn.
Breach of the public trust is not ad hominem.
May we have the next loser please?
aa: If there is no harm in what he did, what you you say about one of your co-workers sneaking into your wallet during your lunch break, stealing credit card numbers and faxing them to friends?
Even if they didn’t commit fraud with your numbers, would that be okay?
Would arresting the co-worker amount to an unwarrented ad-hominem attack?
You have the mental capcity of a green bean.
You’re definitely another useful idiot.
I understand he was handcuffed because he began screaming and shouting in a fanatical way.
Being someone who glorifies anarchy and uses an airplane aimed to crash into the Parliament of canada’s Peace Tower as a logo for his band called “suicide pilots”, ala 9/11 glorification one can imagine what kind of profanity this man would have began shouting.
Especially to the cops – anarchists hate all authority.
It is common practice to have security or police escort an individual being canned for breach of trust from their place of employment.
My guess is this guy decided to cause a scene so he can get sympathy from the other wackos in this country.
It worked – the CBC and CTV feel sorry for him and of course the NDP.
All manipulated by a propaganda stunt by an ANARCHIST! Who glorifes blowing up our parliament!!!
Then re-manipulated by a group of enviro-wackos who orchestrated the news conference and then hid in the background so they would not get caught by revenue canada being “political” so it does not affect their charitable status for MONEY.
And our media suckered right in. Who else here is disgusted by what has happened to good old fashioned common sense and morality inthis country.
Give that man a medal, he put the good of the nation ahead of his own well being.
another traitor
Don’t be too quick to jump on civil servants over this – from what I picked up on talk radio today, they were among the most critical of what this person did and how it reflects on the professionalism of the public service.
In private industry, if you leak confidential info, you get your butt fired. If you work for a public company and leak confidential info, you end up in court. Why should it be different in gov’t?
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Money=Yummy
responsibility= Not My Job.
Rather hypocritical of him to take a government job.
Idiot. His role was to do his tiny part in implementing policy regardless of government’s orientation. He can privately criticize whatever he wants — as long as that doesn’t spill into his work. If he wishes to try influencing or making policy, he can run for office.
Sometimes I get so riled up about the sins of alcohol I need a drink.
Shaken…Dont get all stirred up over this!
Maybe he thinks he’s working for the Liberal Party, not the Government of Canada. Duh.
I just caught the replay of Jeffrey “Butters” Monaghan’s newser.
What can you say about a guy who explains that his job is to assemble the daily clippings, then segues into a supposedly authoritative diatriabe about Kyoto, to justify his firing offence?
You are a ‘snivel serpent’, you are not paid to formulate policy. You are paid to execute policy. If you want to formulate policy get elected.
Given my experience, there are a few who don’t think or research before they write letters either. Notably, from Canada Revenue Agency.
Perhaps he will argue stupidity is a Charter right.
The job of ‘snivel serpents’ is not to broadcast policy while it is in the formulation/execution stage.
If one comes forward publicly ‘outside the loop’ that calls itself Ottawa, then it should be for a good reason like exposing government wrongdoing.
The condition of employ is non-disclosure of public policy before it is announced; like any budget lockup.
cf Ralph Goodale, Scott Brison, et al. on the Income Trust file
I’d like to see some dummy justify this when working on a sensitive Defence Dept. file when lives are at stake.
Dear Mr & Mrs X your son/daughter are dead because I can’t comprehend the conditons of my employment.
Sincerely,
Dumb Bunny
The real loser in the discussion is not the moronic term who managed to score some public cash, but the low wattage fluorescent from the Public Service Alliance. Moron got what he deserved. PSAC has swung so far the left they’ve become an embarrassment to EVERYBODY in Government, including their components.
Ha ha ha! Anarchist pretends he’s an outsider but he actually belongs to the establishment and spends most of his time trying to increase the establishment’s power! Who’s he think he’s foolin’?
im wondering who hired this jerk.
Surely theres some kind of vetting process.
Soccermom said: “Maybe he thinks he’s working for the Liberal Party, not the Government of Canada. Duh.”
In a good many departments, he would be working for the LPC. CPC hasn’t even come close to housecleaning all of the party hacks from the departments. Thwarting conservative policy is SOP in many departments still. After 13 years, a very high percentage of civil servants (now officially called “public administrators”) have known nothing else but Libranoism, and a very high number owe their status to the Libs. There is an incredible amount of housecleaning to be done, just to get back to a remotely competent ethical middle management. Liberals took a LOT of ministerial authority away from the cabinet ministers through the creation of agencies and foundations. Many like Carol Skelton, are largely titular.
Well put Hans
VL
“Alleged” and “not charged with any crime.” Yup, looks like a good candidate for a summary execution. Sheesh! I guess “innocent until proven guilty” doesn’t mean anything anymore.
he is also a member of an anarchist collective that runs a bookstore in Ottawa, and plays drums in a punk band called the Suicide Pilots.
Yeah what a loser, trying to hide a P.C. pro-establishment attitude by posing as a punk rocker.
“Alleged” and “not charged with any crime.” Yup, looks like a good candidate for a summary execution. Sheesh! I guess “innocent until proven guilty” doesn’t mean anything anymore.
How about Stupid Asshat until proven legible?
The public service will never ever be non-partisan. I am not even going to comment on Monaghan because he is obviously another one of these frothy-mouthed progressives. That is to be expected from that sort.
The really scary thing is that we have this mammoth organization called the public service which is never really supportive of a Conservative government. Never mind Monaghan, look at what Patty Ducharme says: ‘It sort of speaks to the whole tone of this government and their value of public service workers.’ She is as frothy-mouthed as the anarchist drummer boy.
He plays in a punk band….wonder if Warren knows him
sheesh, lberia, you are missing the point. Or deliberately trying to divert the point.
I guess integrity, ethics, morality and professionalism don’t mean anything anymore.
This young man, on his own initiative, took a document marked SECRET and distributed it to the Press.
sheesh, I guess ‘Secret’ on an official document doesn’t mean anything anymore.
He sent this document to the press because HE, an unelected and unaccountable-for-his-actions individual, decided that HE didn’t agree with it.
sheesh, I guess the electorate doesn’t mean anything anymore.
After all, the electorate didn’t elect Monaghan to make decisions about the environment; they elected MPs in all parties to do that.
He added his own comments to his missive, stating that he profoundly disagreed with the Conservative’s environmental program.
sheesh, I guess accountability doesn’t mean anything anymore. If he wants to make policy, he should get himself elected.
If he wants to criticize policy, he should do so in blogs, in writing to his MPs, in opinion pieces to the editor and etc.
But, to take a gov’t document, clearly marked SECRET, and, send it to the press
sheesh, I guess integrity and professional ethics don’t matter anymore.
And then, rather than acknowledging this clear violation of the professional rules of his employment, and this lack of integrity, he says that any criticism of his action is a ‘witch hunt’. How? Why does he insist that he and his behaviour can’t be criticized? After all, he took it upon himself to criticize the gov’t – and to violate the rules of his employment. So?
Just heard his blubbering statement on radio and he mentions everyone’s hero David Suzuki.
He was just trying to save the world cause no one but Gore, Suki, and he really care and we should be the only country to implement the socialist wealth disribution Kyoto scheme.
It is time CRA pulled Suzuki’s charitable status!
lberia said:
“”Alleged” and “not charged with any crime.” Yup, looks like a good candidate for a summary execution. Sheesh! I guess “innocent until proven guilty” doesn’t mean anything anymore.”
If “lberia” stands for Lavrentiy Beria, then I see much irony your comment. 😛
lberia, I was an employee of the Saskatchewan government for 9 years (1984 – 1993). If I had leaked confidential info because I as a Tory had disagreed with the direction the then incoming NDP administration was taking, I’d have been fired in a heart beat with loss of all accrued benefits. And, I’d have deserved it.
I totally look like a narc.
Which makes my occasional visits to Jeff’s new Marxist bookstore all the more enjoyable 🙂
Seriously, the sight of a middle aged white male wearing proper clothing in their bookstore makes them visibly nervous.
there is little screening. The guy is a temp doing a job that is usually done by a high school daughter of some constituency supporter.
What a knob. He should be charged and fined. If the court backs him up then we have bigger problems.
The Clerk of the Privy Council should be appoplectic!
Wow…some are pretty quick to dismiss all public servatns because of one person’s actions. Assigning collective guilt/politic views based on the action of a few…hardly seems inline with most conservative poistions.
Last time I check the Ottawa area had quite a few CPC MPs, surely some public servants vote Blue.
I’ll bet his mother works in the same department.
How is this different that a whistleblower? ala adscam?
dkjones,
Are you serious?
I think this guys actions really undermine the democratic process. It was correct for Environment Canada Security branch to be concerned. And (as one might expect) the environmentalists will use the incident to take a swipe at the government. The only “heavy handed” aspect of this were the handcuffs, and there is no evidence whatsoever that the decision to use handcuffs was anyone’s but the arresting officer. Being “escorted” off the property is standard practice. I recently heard of a case at UBC where a librarian was escorted off the property by security. That’s what happens when people are dismissed. So — I think protests regarding the perp’s “treatment” are really being overdone. It is Monaghan himself (clearly prodded on by the Environmental groups) who is escalating this into a major incident. Unfortunately, the press (as usual) does not see past the surface-level politicing going on.
Ha ha ha! Anarchist pretends he’s an outsider but he actually belongs to the establishment and spends most of his time trying to increase the establishment’s power! Who’s he think he’s foolin’?
Nailed it!
The scarey part is that a large number of these fools are in our goverment and worst of all in our schools teaching our children. The further left you go the more naive you seem to get. These people in general think they stand for peace and the environment, but in fact they are unwittingly enabling, and at some high-up levels conspiring with they very people who oppose peace. Furthermore in the unlikley event the sabotage is successful,we then leave it to our friends from the middle ages to save the earth. A group that fundamentally denies science.
Good job guys
The guy states that “… domestic and international law … legal responsibilities”
Is this true or is he making it up?
I see a couple of problems with his story:
1. He claims he compiles news clippings for the Minister’s Office . . . fine, but that is not done in the Minister’s Office on the 28th floor of Terrasses de la Chaudiere in Gatineau, it is done in Communications Branch which is on the other side of the door to the M.O which is kept locked at all times.
2. As a “Clippie” he would have access to newspapers and transcripts from the media but NOTHING classified as ‘Confidential’, ‘Enhanced’ or ‘Secret’. So, where did he get the document? It was not something he would have had access to on a legitimate basis. So, from whom was the document stolen before it was passed on to a third party? From a desk in the Minister’s Office? From a senior employee in Communications Branch who was working on a speech or the like?
That’s why he’s trouble, he stole from the Crown.
If you want to get really ill, read the comments in the Globe. He states he leaked it to the press a week ahead of the other leak. Paul Hunter said they had a copy. Did they print it, or turn it over to rcmp or Baird, and did the press call in the rcmp. What union was it that passed a resolution last year to support the terrorists, or some such thing. How old is this so called person. And what was his job. Shows his ability in the work field. And perhaps, the govt is suspicios that others have leaked important documents, but couldn’t prove it. A message has been sent, follow the rules or get arrested and fired. A whistle blower would be someone who knew he did this, and reported it. He is not a whisleblower, he is a spy and should be charged with treason. How many of his kind are in the public service, just waiting for dion to take over. But, what if Harper gets his majority. We need an election, as it appears the opposition plans to govern for the next 2 yrs, by introducing motions against the government. The motion today is a money bill, and what if Harper calls it that if it comes to a vote. Enough of playing nice with dion and talijack. If dion gets a minority, he has taught Harper how to act in opposition.
Steve Janke has a great post with more info:
http://stevejanke.com/archives/226037.php
This guys and idiot, but did anyone catch the liberal defense of government leaks on the news last night … no bloody wonder they don’t get why the RCMP is investigating the Income Trust fiasco. “leaks in government happen all the time” … yeah buddy they do, but not when stock market transactions are in play!!! If this was some Health Canada policy, I don’t think arrests would have taken place.
That being said, he sounds like moron he is … but more scary is the notion that this guy didn’t expect that security would be involved. Ideological dissention is not the role of a bureaucrat. Even as a temp I’m sure he signed some kind of confidentially agreement, I know I did 15 years ago when I worked temp. for Transport Canada, and I was definately not in a “confidential” role.
The Toronto Star has a link to his punk band site, The Suicide Pilots, which shows a plane about to crash into the Canadian Parliament Buildings.
Ahh – the stupidity and the arrogance.
No, he isn’t a whistle-blower – despite the fervent attestations of his being so by the NDP and the Liberals. A w-b is someone who observes illegal activities within a system and informs the authorities.
Certainly, as the Liberals (Mark Holland) have shown us, the Liberals and NDP have no principles, no ethical integrity, and are only too pleased to open private files, to have civil servants breach their oath of trust and send them secret documents. That is the ‘high road’ claimed by Stephane Dion. Heh.
A document that has not been released is not public in any sense of the word; it is private to the minister and/or committee that is developing it. It is illegal to remove it and publicize it.
Monaghan ought to be fired and fined, if not jailed, for breach of the public trust. We, the taxpayers, do not pay our civil servants to breach their oath of integrity and duty, and send private documents into the public eye.
I will bet you anything that a “27” year old civil servant has hardly started working for government. I would also guess that the guy joined to, perhaps, just pull a stunt like this.
There also is no valid analogy between someone like him leaking the story and a Minister or the PMO “leaking” an announcement. Government’s can release trial ballons, engage reporters, stakeholders, even brief opposition leaders before an announcement. What he has done is none of these. He released a time sensitive document that was no longer a “Secret” once the Minister announced it.
Also, just what was he “whistle-blowing”? What impropriety was he pointing too?
“But he did say he got his short-term contract at the media monitoring section of Environment Canada through a human resources firm in order to sidestep government employment procedures.”
And, if he was working in a media monitoring position, he should would have not been working on any communications plan for the release of the plan or any similar document. Wonder how he might
gotten a hold of that? hmmmmm…
ET:
Your comments reminded me of the dope who removed the hard drives from a government computer which contained the entire tax files for the residents of Saskatchewan.
All a twit like this would have to have done was hook it up to a server and broadcast over the internet violating at least a dozen laws.
I get a kick out of Iberia, it is no longer an ‘allegation’ when you hold a press conference admitting you leaked information.
If the guy vehemently disagrees with the policy, join the political party of your choice and attempt to effect change. The workplace for ‘snivel serpents’ is not the place to play advocate for policy.
Of course the advent of Adscam all but put the boots to the notion that public servants could work objectively within their legislative framework or take account of known facts.
Who needs the rule book, we’re throwing out the rule book. Who needs democracy when we have LIEberaldom?
LONG LIVE THE REVOLUTION!!! LONG LIVE LIEBERALDOM!
Hans and ET:
According to the news item, “Monaghan did not confess, or deny, to leaking the document during the press conference.”
So, when did he admit to anything? You two must be some sort of crime fighting dynamic duo with ESP. When you’re not posting here do you dress up as Batman and Robin?
Thank goodness I came here to read posts from some very sensible and balanced people. If I had just stayed in the media area…imagine how depressed I would be now.
thank you bob and maryT and andrewNS and Linda and Acooper, ET Zilla, joant (sorry those missed)and most of you who have brought out so many valid points..I feel so much better knowing your views and you are not even media …yipppeee
ET is correct, it’s a matter of breach of public trust.
Of course, some people don’t know what trust means.
You just have to love the union’s response. To paraphrase what they said,” We don’t know what he did but whatever it is that he did the government response was much too harsh”. Well union people,some call it breach of trust,I harshly call it theft.
Typical ad hominem attacks on someone who does not Praise PM Steve. Predictable.
Yawn.
Breach of the public trust is not ad hominem.
May we have the next loser please?
aa: If there is no harm in what he did, what you you say about one of your co-workers sneaking into your wallet during your lunch break, stealing credit card numbers and faxing them to friends?
Even if they didn’t commit fraud with your numbers, would that be okay?
Would arresting the co-worker amount to an unwarrented ad-hominem attack?
You have the mental capcity of a green bean.
You’re definitely another useful idiot.
I understand he was handcuffed because he began screaming and shouting in a fanatical way.
Being someone who glorifies anarchy and uses an airplane aimed to crash into the Parliament of canada’s Peace Tower as a logo for his band called “suicide pilots”, ala 9/11 glorification one can imagine what kind of profanity this man would have began shouting.
Especially to the cops – anarchists hate all authority.
It is common practice to have security or police escort an individual being canned for breach of trust from their place of employment.
My guess is this guy decided to cause a scene so he can get sympathy from the other wackos in this country.
It worked – the CBC and CTV feel sorry for him and of course the NDP.
All manipulated by a propaganda stunt by an ANARCHIST! Who glorifes blowing up our parliament!!!
Then re-manipulated by a group of enviro-wackos who orchestrated the news conference and then hid in the background so they would not get caught by revenue canada being “political” so it does not affect their charitable status for MONEY.
And our media suckered right in. Who else here is disgusted by what has happened to good old fashioned common sense and morality inthis country.
Give that man a medal, he put the good of the nation ahead of his own well being.
another traitor
Don’t be too quick to jump on civil servants over this – from what I picked up on talk radio today, they were among the most critical of what this person did and how it reflects on the professionalism of the public service.
In private industry, if you leak confidential info, you get your butt fired. If you work for a public company and leak confidential info, you end up in court. Why should it be different in gov’t?
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