When are they gonna come down?
Take me back off the land?
You should have stayed off my farm
It didn’t go according to plan
You know I can’t feed you forever
(I didn’t RoundUp for you)
Won’t be present when the market opens
No future growing organics for you
So goodbye greenie dirt road
Where the dogs of Kyoto now howl
You can’t plant that in your greenhouse
We’re back to the pesticides now
Back to the clones in the factory barns
Genetically modified grain
Oh they’ve finally decided your dinner plate lies
Beyond the greenie dirt road
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Beautiful Kate! Now,if you could just get someone to put it to music,slap it up on you-tube…instant hit!Now that all those ACTRA losers are off strike(and who missed them anyway??) I’m sure one of them could be hired to perform.
I can see the bumper stickers now:
Save Bangladesh
Support Factory Farming…
tsk tsk tsk, what is a birkenstock sandal wearing tree hugger to do?????but my free range chicken is saving the planet…..retards!
For those that have never heard Charles Adler.
Check him out here. He’s on right now. 2:00pm till 5:00pm Eastern.
Hope he takes a stab at Kyoto again.
http://www.cjob.com/shows/adler.aspx
Nice! Organic farming supporters vs. global warming activists! This should be a good one to watch…
With all due deference to Elton John, how about “No Milk Today”
No milk today
That farce has gone away
Organic’s just fell off the map
It was a lot of crap!
No Toms today
Organic’s not okay
Too much energy to grow
Please say it isn’t so.
Now that we know just what this message means
The end of our hopes
Of our organic dreams
What can we do?
The answer’s not so clear
I guess I’ll just give up
And drink another chemo beer.
No hope today
Salvation’s down the tubes
I’d like to save the planet
But I’m a Non-Kyoto rube.
No milk today
What can the greenies do?
It’s tough to plug your BS
When your foot’s in the other shoe.
(with apologies to Herman’s Hermits!)
If I wasn’t at work right now I would give you the lyrics to “My Kyoto” by the Knack Laytons.
Free range chicken eggyolks sure are orange after eating all that green grass and all those grasshoppers.
What about cows milk after they eat all that stinkweed.
Stephane…you don’t have to put on the green light.
Your days are over,you don’t have to move your party further from the right.
Ever since we knew you..
we could always see right thru you..
You told us once ,you won’t tell us again “it’s the Liberal way..
From range wars, we go to the organic ones. The irony cuts deep. lol.
You should set the poem to Jon Vangelis tune MR. Cairo & call it Mr. Kyoto. Both being about crime & fantasy. Nicely done kate.
Sorry, but it’s all about emotion and how one weepily feels. Facts don’t mean a thing.
I buy organic produce for the quality of the food not because I think of it as being any earth saving miracle. It just makes sense that produce sprayed with hebicides, pesticides and soil conditioners will absorb what you treat them with. Foreign chemical compounds are not healthy to ingest…period. I wish there was more organic produce and damn the enviro fXXktards.
I agree that there’s nothing finer in a tomato than one that’s been allowed to sun ripen and picked and eaten on a nice late summers day while working in the garden.
Cheers
Now we need a repeat of the Dr. Fruit Fly special telling us how Sacha’s Godfather Fidel has made all the strides in sustainable agriculture.
Really its more like Stephane Dion says it
“substainable” substandard techniques that would starve half the planet. But less “grin ‘ouse gazzes”
… It just makes sense that produce sprayed with hebicides, pesticides and soil conditioners will absorb what you treat them with.
That’s the thing with organic: it’s treated with poop.
And in some cases, the ecoli within is drawn up through the root system into the leaves of that organic lettuce on your plate.
🙂
… It just makes sense that produce sprayed with hebicides, pesticides and soil conditioners will absorb what you treat them with.
Oh those evil herbicides and pesticides!!! Pure poison it is!
Funny how the right herbicides and pesticides actually make the crop healthier and more productive…….hmmmm
Pass the poop please……
“Organic” food is very often overpriced inferior produce, but I like knowing where my food comes from. I prefer to get my food from local farmers who are more than happy to talk about how they grow their produce (and also get a lot more for it from people like me).
Whenever possible I eat free range meat. Free range beef is much higher in omega-3 fatty acids than feedlot beef which has been greatly enriched in saturated fats as a result of grain feeding. The same holds for chicken. I don’t mind steaks with yellow fat and this is a sign that the fat is loaded with beta-carotene and other fat soluble vitamins. Unfortunately getting fresh buffalo is a bit of a problem as the last buffalo rancher I talked to told me if I wanted fresh buffalo, I could come to her place, pick out an animal, shoot it and then take it home with me. Don’t have a freezer that big yet, but it is probably a lot more interesting than going to the local meat department. Hunting is another way of getting good quality meat, but a bit too time consuming for me at this time.
I buy bison meat at the local Calgary Co-Op.
wl mckenzie – hope you’re not buying “organic” eggs. Left winged CBCpravda / marketplace just knocked them off as no better than factory eggs last week!
first it was Y2K then y2Kyoto & now we have Organyoto!
There’s a great new book on the subject. Which you can find below.
http://www.thetruthaboutorganicfoods.org/
Full of great factoids such as, ‘a cup of coffee contains more cancer-causing natural chemicals than a year’s worth of synthetic pesticide residues.’
How many of these greenies do you think are ready to give up their Tim Hortons and\or Starbucks habit?
All one has to do is believe Monsanto and we will all be healthy. Read Andrew Nikiforuk’s book Pandemonium to really understand the affects of factory farming–for instance–the loss of immunity in chickens in intensive ‘farming’ is the main cause of avian flu.
Organic farmers do not use GMO seeds either. This is the only reason organic farming is being linked to Kyoto in a bad way–it helps out the big factory farms and the suppliers and producers like Monsanto.
I raised free range chickens for 20 years and find the report on the cost to Kyoto to be totally bogus.
Last time I stopped at one of those farmers with sign out for “Free Range Chickens” he still wanted to get paid. Just down the road we went in where he had a sign saying “Lots for Sale” and we couldnt see nothing at all.
I think those farmers are just like the government.;)
here is what I know to be true
1. I will live longer than my forefathers
2. My forefathers ate “organic” foods, cuz thats all there was
3. nothing else matters
You know what would go good with those free range chickens that weren’t fed any GM feed-grains?
A side of organic corn meal. Which is a particularly healthy choice for your liver and kidney’s.
http://www.food.gov.uk/news/newsarchive/2003/sep/moremaize
How’s about for dessert some Dagoba Organic Chocolate. Don’t be alarmed if you notice any problems with, oh maybe, your; central nervous system, learning disorders, developmental defects, anemia, neurologic effects such as ataxia and irritability, constipation, muscular weakness, and chronic nephritis. It’s all good.
http://www.fda.gov/oc/po/firmrecalls/dagoba03_06.html
And remember nothing says ‘I love you’ better than a nice glass of raw ‘organic’ milk.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14961688/
Remember, it’s all Monsanto free and perfectly natural. Mother nature would never do anything to harm you and yours, not like those big bad multinationals and all of their evil scientists.
Nature good, man bad.
Here’s what I know to be true;
1. I may not make old bones…so I’m going to get lazer eye surgery now. Regression may not be an issue.
2. I won’t buy overpriced commercial organic food contaminated by poo. Chemicals haven’t killed me yet…what if food preservatives preserve me too?
3. Life on planet Earth causes death. Eventually.
I remember when pesticides & herbicides were the answer to all the ills in India, as there were starving infants there and we just had to feed them all.Pesticides& herbicides were the answer to their food production problems.
Then I remember when we were giving free transitor radios to any Indian that would get a vasectomy because of over-population.
I am truly confused.
the two biggest cluster@#$%’s of the last century were the banning of DDT, and the unrealized potential of nuclear power…..many special thanx to the following:
1. dr. f#$%ing fruit fly and his merry band of retarded followers
2. every idiot musician, who, because they could strum 3 chords, felt qualified to use the celebrity to manipulate mindless stoners
3. corrupt libranos/dippers/red tories, who gave the previous 2 groups a stage, and never once truly cared about the poor, children or natives, and continuously lined their own pockets
Please do the common folk a favor, and just shut the @#$% up for the rest of your pathetic lives.
With all my love.
John
It’s a fact that animals fattened in a feedlot probably wouldn’t live another six months due to the concentrated feed damaging the kidneys. Lack of kidney function means poisons build up in the body, which you then eat.
Feeding animals that which isn’t natural results in things like BSE.
The longer life span in western society is mostly due to modern medicine’s successful control of most diseases.
So, organic pot would be a good thing, or a good good thing, a good bad thing, or what?
Bada dada dump dump, dump dump, dump dump,
Bada dada dump dump, My Glaucoma!
I could’t stop laughing, oh that’s so funny. I’m thinking the music of Elton John’s Yellow Brick Road would do…ciao
Well to the better life through chemistry cult, I offer this tidbit:
If pesticide and herbacides are so good for ya just bypass the slow ingestion through produce and take a big swig right out of the bottle…g’wan chug it down now, it’s good fer ya 🙂
You eat what you want but have the civility to allow me to eat what I feel is right…ferkissake some of ya are worse than the health nazis who want to penalize burger eaters. 😉
Kate: never heard of coliform poisoning from organic lettuce but it happens from cheap processed and poorly handled hambuger and poultry all the time…and its common to get parasites from mexican and African fruit and produce. I’m not a salad guy and I only eat raw fruit and veg if I know where it comes from and Canadian produce is about the best you can find.
Most of the fresh fruit and vegatables we get in season the wife puts down into preserves…we go at it for a week or two filling Mason jars with preserves for winter when the fresh market produce suck ( Mexican produce very likely has “poop”..brobably from pedro who harvested it)
For the curious no I don’t buy “organic eggs” it’s a marketing hoax……free run chicken and eggs and free range beef for me…pork I get from a minnonite farmer who feeds them organic corn from his property
If one were to eat only organic, then one would die, because sodium chloride is inorganic, and you can’t live without it. However, I agree that it’s best to eat mostly organic, such as these favourites of mine: Cheez Whiz®, Miracle Whip®, and Rice-A-Roni®.
I’m currently eating (as I write this comment) small amounts of Appleby Cheshire, Colston Basset Stilton, and Montgomery Cheddar, all hand-made in small quantities in England. And there is no doubt that for a kase-o-phile like me, artisanal cheese treats blow anything mass-produced out of the water. They also cost about $100 per kilogram. Somehow I don’t think it would be a good idea to ban affordable cheeses from the masses, as they are an excellent dietary source of fat and protein.
I agree too that there’s nothing like a fresh sun-ripened tomato right off the vine. Nevertheless, that approach is problematic unless one only wants to eat tomatoes in August and September. Yesterday, in February, I had a tomato, onion, feta, vinegar, and freshly ground black pepper salad, and I assure you the hot-house tomatoes were more than good enough.
To those who are ideologically opposed to genetically engineered food: would you really like us to go back to the rice (as a staple for the masses, not a gourmet treat) that didn’t produce vitamin A? You ideologues remind me of people who can’t distinguish intensive farming, such as poultry production in some parts of Asia and the third world, from modern engineered farming, such as modern factory pork, which is free of trichina worms and can be eaten rare.
Such ideologues are like vegans who use antibiotic wipes, quite oblivious to the realization that healthy people have dirty finger-nails. They’re not against technology per se, they’re against living life to its fullest in general. And that’s fine with me, they can go kill themselves for all I care, but if they want to stop me from living life to its fullest, then I will invoke the self defense principle.
Just remember, no matter what you’re cooking: start with lots of butter, and finish with cheese. As Julia Child said, “The pleasures of the table — that lovely old-fashioned phrase — depict food as an art form, as a delightful part of civilized life. In spite of food fads, fitness programs, and health concerns, we must never lose sight of a beautifully conceived meal. Life is to be joyous, and joy comes from sensory pleasures shared with others.”
So when are you rednecks going to accept the scientific proof of global warming? Overwhelmingly science has proven this is real, but the oil companies have the simple minded under a spell thinking all is well. The evidence is all around you if you care to open your eyes and look at it.
Do you rednecks really hate your children or grandchildren that much, that you are willing to destroy their planet along with their futures? Does a few dollar mean that much to you? If you live in Alberta or Saskatchewan, global warming means your kids will probably be living in a desert.
You care more about money than your children?
Nicolas Sternthe former Chief Economist and Senior Vice-President of the World Bank stated today in Toronto that global warming could cost nations between five and twenty percent GDP if global waring is ignored.
Alas, Albatros, it is not possible for me to be a red-neck, since my hair is so long and curly and bushy that it is not possible for the sun to reach my neck.
You want to eat healthy? Get in your car and go see a real farmer. One day I decided to buy some “farm fresh” eggs for my cholesterol fix. So I stopped at a farmer’s place and bought a dozen. And spent 20 minutes gabbing with him and his wife. Just great people and the best eggs I’ve had.
So I go back the next week for more.
Next thing I know, I’m getting beef that is so tender, pork that is so lean, nooobody misses one of my barbeques! Chickens, duck, turkeys, ham and then tried the maple syrup. Ye Gods!
All for less than what it would cost me in the supermarket or buying from any freezer plan I’ve looked at.
AND he lets me cut my firewood in his back 40 for free. Saves me enough money each year I can buy another 1/2 cow in the spring.
Forget the OrganiGreenies, Support your local farmer.
Experts, and I use the word in jest, say that even if ghg was stopped tomorrow, there is enough in the air that it will take several years to make a difference. So, all those wondering about our kids and grandkids, ask themselves this. If you can have no energy used for several years, meaning no a/c, how are these kids going to survive the 90+ heat in the summers. How many died in the heat wave in france a few years ago. Do these idiots really believe that shutting down the entire economy for years, for some future possibility that temps wont rise by 2 degrees is worth it. It is those idiots that have no concern for their kids or grandchildren.
What is the time line from idea, drawing plans, building a protype to full manufacture of a car.
Can’t be done in a day or a year. The same is for any green economy. As for saying it will cost more in the future than today, if they wont give us a figure and just use fear and threats, they have no credibility. Give me a few hundred thousand dollars to go around the world to spread a message and I could come up with a good pro kyoto message also. When these idiots realize that shutting down oil and gas production will not make much difference to the air, maybe their hate for success will be overcome by common sense, but I doubt it. Kyotologists are jealous of success. Notice Jason said there are many young liberal dionistas.
I was glad to see that despite all the diversity of culinary opinion on this thread, the disease of vegetarianism seems to be absent. There appear to be two modes of culinary behavior that I see frequently which are the “food as fuel” and “food a nutraceutical”. Those individuals who view food simply as fuel eat only when certain physiologic energy indicators are showing near empty readings and don’t particularly care what is ingested as long as it is fast. I have to admit that when I’m in hacking mode this is my eating style and there are hundreds of products out there containing high energy organic molecules that can be consumed with one hand so the other hand can stay on the keyboard or mouse. These products are well manufactured, free of contaminents and very economically priced. While fine for short periods of time this approach to eating does have long term consequences as usually energy intake exceeds bodily energy production with this class of foods.
The “food as nutraceutical” approach is often adapted by people once they decide that they are going to micromanage their nutrient intake and here obviously the mass produced food is not good enough and one needs to go to foods which are not generally available to the masses. I noticed myself slowly slipping into this state when I was no longer programming full time and had enough money that I no longer had to add up my grocery purchases ih my head before I got to the checkout. There is this interesting perception that one can’t possibly be doing ones body any favors by eating this mass produced crap (even though it is often biochemically indistinguishable from the “food that is good for you”).
There are a few things about processed food which are bad such as the removal of omega-3 fatty acids from processed food. Omega-6 fatty acids are pro-inflammatory and the simplest way of dealing with this imbalance is to take lots of fish oil every day.
When money is no longer the primary determinent of ones food preferences, then it is far more interesting to get foods directrly from farmers and ranchers rather than from the anonymous supermarket. Eating is a very social activity in humans and this is just a manifestation of it.
From a medical point of view, I think people who actually think a bit about what they eat are better off than those who merely eat whatever is available when they’re hungry as the former group are much less destructive to the waiting room furniture. Also, I don’t have to get into pointing out seemingly obvious things that perhaps the 200 lb a patient has put on in the last year might be related to their habit of downing 6 liters of regular pop every evening rather than some obscure glandular imbalance.
The success of our food production system can be seen in the number of people on welfare who are grossly obese. Just be glad that the government hasn’t decided to medicalize the food distribution system and run it like medicare.
So when are you rednecks going to accept the scientific proof of global warming?
On the local news tonight they announced that Toronto had gone through its coldest 30 day stretch in a couple of decades. Is Al Bore in town?
…they’re against living life to its fullest in general.
On another local newscast, an earnest reporter went in Mcdonalds, Burger King, Popeyes and found in some – gasp! – that there’s more fat and salt than advertised.
Why don’t they ever look into fois gras or duck confit? No one would eat it every day, but when eaten in moderation they can be one of life’s great pleasures.
Instead there are a bunch of dullards out there going on about trans fats and shoving their gobs full of tofu and seaweed.
Re feedlot cattle–my vet, who was the vet for the local feedlot, told me that 95% of livers are condemned from the beef cattle in that feedlot. This was due mainly to the concentrate chemicals added to the feed to increase growth. Tyson feedlot spreads the blood from their slaughterhouse facilities in Brooks, Alberta onto the fields that grow the hay and grain for the feed for the cattle in their feedlots.
We have no idea what we are eating.
As for eggs–cholesterol is highest in eggs from chickens raised in an ‘egg factory farm’. They are clustered into cages and can only eat and lay. The stress from their living conditions causes an increase in cholesterol in the eggs. Chickens raised free range have little cholesterol in the egg. We are killing ourselves to make a profit! And we are demeaning those very animals on whom we depend on for food. To every action there is a reaction. We ain’t seen nothing yet.
So, albatros39a, “Overwhelmingly science has proven this is real” — can you provide an example? If not, don’t worry, I have also noted that most people claiming “scientific consensus” can’t actually name any climatologists whose work supports the theory of global warming.
Nutraceutical? Right on! I love learning new words (that are in the dictionary). Thanks, Loki. I agree with your essay in general; well written sir.
It’s a bit of minor point, but I don’t fit into either of the two modes of culinary behaviour you listed. I don’t generally eat until I am legitimately hungry, so there I’m a food for fuel guy, but when I do eat I pay close attention to what I’m eating.
It’s just that I don’t obsess over this ingredient or that additive or whatever, without very good reason, because I eat such a broad variety of foods, in moderation, that it all tends to balance out in the end anyway.
One thing everybody has to keep in mind though is that everybody is different. I have friends who have to keep close track of what they eat, because their systems respond poorly if they don’t. In that respect I always have to remember that I’m limited in terms of constraints; I have a cast-iron constitution. When I tell my doctor what I eat, and he looks at my blood assays, he just says, wow, you’re weird.
But there’s nothing sillier that arguing over which aesthetic option is better. Lager or ale? I don’t care. Let me know which you prefer, and I’ll get you one. It is always better to sing and dance than it is to argue over taste.
There is a “trick” though that I think most people should get better at performing. Smell your food. Stick your nose right up to the food. Inhale deeply, multiple times. This is the proper initialization sequence for both digestive and epicurean purposes. I think some people eat twice as much as they should because they’re trying to make up for in volume the 50% of the experience that they have lost though not smelling what they’re doing in the first place.
You want only one?
Ok, Dr Philip Mote
I want my child to have food on the table and his own roof over his head, I sure dont want him to suffer thru the BS the Kyoto scammers are trying to stuff up our asses.
To all you Y2Kyoto bullshitters when your proven wrong im comming to get our money back, every dime you theives have conned out of every citizen of this country.
Hey if we would have listened to you cons, just think how much money we’d have spent in Iraq by now.
Besides, you want food on your table for your kids? How does turning the North American grain belt into desert keep food on the table?
Hey albatros39a What BS
Your so full of it.
Oh yeah and Im idling my car til june.
SAVE THE WHALES SINK GREENPEACE
Lots of references to Rednecks here. Guess it is time to get out my bumber sticker and T-shirt.
TYPICAL ALBERTA REDNECK AND PROUD OF IT.
What do the people of toronto have to be proud of, other than supporting corrupt govts.