A people unable to accept that they are more like Americans than they are each other.
60 Replies to “The Last Word On Canadian Identity”
”Our natural kinships and shared experiences in North America flow north-south, not east-west. That’s a product of shared geography, history and navigation routes. It’s not political. It’s organic.”
Nonsense, they of course flow in every conceivable direction, not just one to the exclusion of one other because that’s the only way you can view things through the prism of your bile.
well, ya know there are some logistical issues related to alberta vs quebec separation.
quebec has access to and in fact controls canadian access via the st. lawrence to the atlantic shipping routes.
alberta is land locked.
being land locked has been a sore point in numerous nations itching to get a better ummm, ‘view’.
what will alberta do to address this Q?
quebec doesnt have to. all they need to do is impose navigation tariffs to press the point of who’s calling the shots.
I envision a razor thin land route created for canadian transportation, a super highway fenced in and guarded like the US-Mex thing layed down just inside the american side of their border with quebec. paid for by canada with the usual conditions.
Syncro,
I enjoyed your strong rebutt however 20 years in the oil patch may not have provided the insight that one year working in Ottawa could have.
If Quebec did get 218 Billion$ of Federal transfers of 225 Billion$ then it is the other provinces who have a powerful complaint not Alberta.
Those figures are lopsided though, even for Canada. It would be interesting to see where they could be validated.
In any case, you earned great wages for 20 years and Alberta seems very properous today, suffering only a shortage of fresh water for the industry.
Still not a solid reason to seperate from Canada. Would the Empire of Alberta expect to continue getting water from B.C. Canada for free?
The oil patch would grind to a halt without it, you know.
That*s only the smallest bug in the separation plot though. = TG
“alberta is land locked.”
The Swiss seem to do okay. I don’t know too much about the port issue, but realistically I guess there are 2 options:
1) Negotiated access to the BC port in exchange for rail and/or other land access to the ROC – I doubt they want to re-route all inter-provincial trade through the territories.
2) Negotiate port access with the US. As the single largest supplier of oil to the US they might figure such a favour is not unreasonable.
Tony,
You might want to look up this little thing called the Continental Divide.
TG
Thank you so much for setting me straight. I never realized the Athabasca and the Clearwater originated in BC.
That probably explains why my grandfather beat the shit out of Ray the night before the wedding.
You know…..us Alta/Sask types are geographically/geologically challenged. It takes a brilliant BCer to point that out.
Somehow that seemed to piss Leopold off.
Go figure.
Syncro
TG
I guess I’ve gotta get some Ottawa experience.
Can you reccomend a good lobatamist?
Syncro
That’s the last personal attack you get, maryjane. One more and you’re gone.
The North is OK. Its Southern Alta and Sask who are in a water crisis. = TG
”Our natural kinships and shared experiences in North America flow north-south, not east-west. That’s a product of shared geography, history and navigation routes. It’s not political. It’s organic.”
A basically correct observation.
Interesting though, how the money and the raw commodities (with some regional exceptions) seems to flow outward from the middle, toward the east and west.
My answer to the east coast, and the left coast, here in the US: you keep your liberalism and your social *lectures*, and in exchange we’ll keep our oil, gas, iron, copper, corn, and fresh water.
Seems like a fair trade to me.
”Our natural kinships and shared experiences in North America flow north-south, not east-west. That’s a product of shared geography, history and navigation routes. It’s not political. It’s organic.”
Nonsense, they of course flow in every conceivable direction, not just one to the exclusion of one other because that’s the only way you can view things through the prism of your bile.
well, ya know there are some logistical issues related to alberta vs quebec separation.
quebec has access to and in fact controls canadian access via the st. lawrence to the atlantic shipping routes.
alberta is land locked.
being land locked has been a sore point in numerous nations itching to get a better ummm, ‘view’.
what will alberta do to address this Q?
quebec doesnt have to. all they need to do is impose navigation tariffs to press the point of who’s calling the shots.
I envision a razor thin land route created for canadian transportation, a super highway fenced in and guarded like the US-Mex thing layed down just inside the american side of their border with quebec. paid for by canada with the usual conditions.
Syncro,
I enjoyed your strong rebutt however 20 years in the oil patch may not have provided the insight that one year working in Ottawa could have.
If Quebec did get 218 Billion$ of Federal transfers of 225 Billion$ then it is the other provinces who have a powerful complaint not Alberta.
Those figures are lopsided though, even for Canada. It would be interesting to see where they could be validated.
In any case, you earned great wages for 20 years and Alberta seems very properous today, suffering only a shortage of fresh water for the industry.
Still not a solid reason to seperate from Canada. Would the Empire of Alberta expect to continue getting water from B.C. Canada for free?
The oil patch would grind to a halt without it, you know.
That*s only the smallest bug in the separation plot though. = TG
“alberta is land locked.”
The Swiss seem to do okay. I don’t know too much about the port issue, but realistically I guess there are 2 options:
1) Negotiated access to the BC port in exchange for rail and/or other land access to the ROC – I doubt they want to re-route all inter-provincial trade through the territories.
2) Negotiate port access with the US. As the single largest supplier of oil to the US they might figure such a favour is not unreasonable.
Tony,
You might want to look up this little thing called the Continental Divide.
TG
Thank you so much for setting me straight. I never realized the Athabasca and the Clearwater originated in BC.
That probably explains why my grandfather beat the shit out of Ray the night before the wedding.
You know…..us Alta/Sask types are geographically/geologically challenged. It takes a brilliant BCer to point that out.
Somehow that seemed to piss Leopold off.
Go figure.
Syncro
TG
I guess I’ve gotta get some Ottawa experience.
Can you reccomend a good lobatamist?
Syncro
That’s the last personal attack you get, maryjane. One more and you’re gone.
The North is OK. Its Southern Alta and Sask who are in a water crisis. = TG
”Our natural kinships and shared experiences in North America flow north-south, not east-west. That’s a product of shared geography, history and navigation routes. It’s not political. It’s organic.”
A basically correct observation.
Interesting though, how the money and the raw commodities (with some regional exceptions) seems to flow outward from the middle, toward the east and west.
My answer to the east coast, and the left coast, here in the US: you keep your liberalism and your social *lectures*, and in exchange we’ll keep our oil, gas, iron, copper, corn, and fresh water.
Seems like a fair trade to me.