For three days, 20 residents Muscowpetung First Nation have been blockading a grid between Cupar and Edenwold, SK. Predictably;
RCMP are aware of the blockade, which is posing an inconvenience for area residents who use the road, and are monitoring the situation, said RCMP spokesperson Heather Russell.
Just as they did a few weeks ago, when a handful of Indian “protesters” decided to back up traffic on the Hwy 16 bridges at North Battleford. Another land claims dispute? Actually, no. Saskatchewan settled all the outstanding land claims several years ago.
For the past 6 years the band has been under “third party management”, an action generally taken when financial irregularities, non reporting, or incompetence occurs in First Nations governance. (About a dozen Saskatchewan First Nations are under third party management at the moment.) The protesters are demanding return of that financial control.
Leader Post;
INAC has given Muscowpetung all the tools it requires to develop systems so that in the long-term the band can manage its own financial affairs, said department spokesperson Trevor Sutter.
“Third-party management is the highest level of intervention. It is a point where the department has lost confidence in the First Nation to provide programs and services that the membership rightly deserves,” Sutter said, adding 12 Saskatchewan bands are operating under third-party management.
“When it comes to financial capacity and financial assistance we look to the First Nation to show a willingness to not only administer INAC funds, but to also administer non-INAC funds. In order to do this the band is required to provide a consolidated audit of its financial affairs.”
Muscowpetung, which received $2.5 million in federal funding for services and programs, has not provided INAC with a consolidated audit report for its 2004-05 fiscal year.
The band’s failure to provide a consolidated audit report demonstrates the band council’s unwillingness to co-operate with INAC in this process, Sutter said, adding the band is also required to develop a Financial Management Act and a human resource policy.
(Via John Gormley Live, where according to one caller from the band, many Muscowpetung residents didn’t even know the blockade was going to go up.)
Blockade schmlocade…don’t give them any copy or notice and they’ll leave on their own accord when boredom sets in.
Wasn’t third party management a Liberal concept.
I hope not to lead this thread too far OT,but I can’t help wondering when us conservatives will wisen up!
Like it or not,this society recognizes and rewards those who partake in civil disobedience.
Instead of bellyaching on blogs(sorry Kate)maybe we should be camped out on the front steps of the CBC,or the OPP or blockading the entrances to some reserves in Ontario.
Man!…we have a loooong way to go to heal this country!
If the current government has a policy on this, I’m guessing is that they will sit and wait until these things continue to crop up like weeds. Then public outrage will grow and fester–even among so called “liberals.” Then they can come down with an Iron Fist and finally put and end to the Indian “victim” charade once and for all.
As much as we second guess Waco, do you see any other wacko-out-there groups pulling the same sort of shenanginas? Nope. The Iron Fist works every time–but timing is essential.
“maybe we should be camped out on the front steps of the CBC,or the OPP or blockading the entrances to some reserves in Ontario.”
Then we’d be carted off to jail and the headlines would say “Racists jailed for hate crimes”
One more thing…
What’s a cow petung?
SO Kate, what is the blockade about?
BTW I initially thought this was about
some internationl Moscow-Peking axis thing :^)
OK I’ve read the article now
What would happen if we set up a blockade that delivers Welfare and EI checks?
“Why is it only the First Nations that are being penalized for running deficits. The Government of Canada has an overall deficit of 48 per cent,” Cappo said,
Since Canada is always in deficit than maybe we should get the USA to be the third-party manager for Canada.
Does this make sense or it is nonsense? Chief Cappo is making a legitimate point though.
Saw a news clip on SCN (Bell 266) last night and it turns out those involved in the blockade are actually from a Sovereign Nation… Where in the world would these blockaders get the idea that they could possibly get away with such actions? Surely the Sakatchewan authorities will seek advice From the Ontario Provicial Police with regard to the best means of a quick and just resolution to this latest round of opression.
My understanding is that there are approximately 300 people on this reserve. $2.5M is a lot of money between 300 people–or is it just the favoured few who are at the trough that see any? Sounds so Liberal.
I think some checking is in order re the names of the natives on this blockade–any of the names the same as those at Caledonia? $2.5M would go a long way to setting up a casino in Caledonia SN.
Beardy’s Cree: Are you quite serious?
It’s not about running a deficit but about providing an audited financial statement — a quite reasonable requirement considering the huge welfare amounts involved. I’m surprised you’d find that unreasonable, tho I guess I shouldn’t be, being how hard-done-by you guys are. Your statement marks you as an arrested adolescent.
This is odd: despite a excellent track record of compliance, the government forces me to provide a THIRD PARTY audited financial statement (there’s no other kind) annually at a cost of about $10,000. It’s very straight forward: if I don’t, I’m out of business, and I don’t get charity from the tax payer. No blocades for whitey.
But Canada and Muscowpetung are Treaty partners.
Just like the USA and Canada are Treaty partners.
Where’s the rational that Canada can step in and take over the financial affairs of their Treaty partner?
beardy in myopic liberal fashion doesnt get it.
the comparison is invalid.
us of a doesnt hand over billions or millions in welfare to canukistan.
canukistan however dishes out a cool 2 1/2 mill. lottery win to the muscapatoing folks every year. we taxpayers funding this lottery are entitled to at least see its going where the reserveists say it is, ergo the audit.
no audit no more money and what ho up go the barricades and in comes the media.
for now.
eventually the sound bite factor wears off and they will lose interest.
no ticky no laundy. audit sir, audit audit audit. it was an AUDIT that exposed adscam. they are VERY effective in rooting out the truth, of which I am a big fan.
so you say that 15,000 went for fuel? oh. care to show us receipts totalling 15,000? good. now show us the vehicles that used up the fuel and we will have a look at the odometers.
etc etc etc.
PAPER TRAIL IS PARAMOUNT.
buuuut like I emphasised on the caledonia thread, we have taught the natives well we have !!! every trick in the book. and they have learned well also. good for them. turn the tables, tit for tat, fire with fire etc etc.
Hey, Beardy’s Cree, the Canadian taxpayer, your neighbors, visa vie the government, pays for your welfare out of their pockets. Is it asking too much to have some accountability? Treaties don’t negate that basic concept.
Your race doesn’t give you a free pass to not be accountable for the funds you receive. Or would you prefer it that way?
Any treaty signed between nations has an inherent accountability – formal or informal – understanding or it would be a broken treaty. Ever thought of that?
maybe they shpuld just change the name to
MustBeCowDung
seems like the band is in a pile of crap anyways
A.Tech…Of course,how could I have missed that simple fact of politically correct life?
Why doesn’t the gov’t make it public knowledge of how much they get for exporting natural resurces that belong to First Nations oh but then that would be all of Canada and the U.S. silly me, how about the corruption and so-called loopholes that these peeon tax payers find. How many millions were reported by the gov’t in unpaid taxes from the peeon nation how come nobody says diddly squat about this oh thats right peeons are always squeeeeeky clean and can do no wrong. To a lot of individuals you guys are bitching about an economy and resources as well as land that does not even belong to you. But keep telling yourselves enough times and you begin to believe it. This land was STOLEN how else can we say it so that you begin to understand IT WAS STOLEN!!!!!!!!!!!!
Actually, the ‘natives’ were occupied and conquered. Europeans won, they lost. Has happened all throughout recorded history. The land is gone. Be thankful that there are enough suckers in North America to keep you fed and housed, otherwise you might have to get a job.
Well by the pictures on last nites local news, if you call a couple saw horses, a plank, five people sitting in lawn chairs, and an ol pontiac car a Baracade?
The name of the game is Accountability. 2.5mil is a pile of money per year. They have had about 100 years to figure out how to do some basic paper work.
So when you had ur land stolen years ago, what were you doing with it then? Tax payers paying in 8-10billion a year in compensation, how much is the final cheque and lets write it, and let them get on with it.
When I did some checks on the web I found that Muscowpetung has a total of 1126 members with 269 living on the reserve. ( http://pse2-esd2.ainc-inac.gc.ca/FNProfiles/FNProfiles_GeneralInformation.asp?BAND_NUMBER=381&BAND_NAME=Muscowpetung )
If they get 2.5 million per year that’s a pretty decent payout. A money manager would be a good idea for any small group with that kind of cash native or non-native.
I’m not too sure what a “grid road” is, but it doesn’t sound too major. How is this even news ?
To Mr. Pravda (The Truth Will COME)
The land belongs to Canada. Not to you or I or the first nations, whatever first nations means. We have no guaranteed right to private property in this country. Finagle that will you.
as far as royalties or profits from resources on native land or whatever; left up to the aboriginals, all that oil, copper, gold, iron, billions in agriculture exports etc etc ….
would never have happened.
the natives didnt have so much as steel knives to cut their hides with until whitey (thats me) came along.
if n america had not been discovered, occupied and conquered by whitey (thats me) the natives would still be hi-tailing after the buffalo, on foot mind you, and living in teepees. and ganging up on the weaker tribes.
not a single cross cut saw in 1000 years with which to fell and sell a single tree.
get it now ???
amislam.com/macleans.htm
Interesting interview with Canada’s top security specialist about the bastard sons of Ishmael. 230,000 new immigrants/year divided by 2700 csis emplyoees + pcism = doom.
Look, if Ontario can statistically identify and ban pitbulls for merely biting people and killing a few poodles, then it stands to reason that a certain cult can be identified and banned for butchering hundreds of people daily.
It’s September 10th again and again and again.
Wrong thread. Supposed to be under the train bombings. Slip of the mouse? The glass of wine?
I guess the members of the Muscowpetung Band that are engaged in this blockade (which they say is to back up their rights) haven’t bothered to read the “sacred” Treaty 4 to which their band allegedly adheres.
Treaty 4 like all other treaties has a “law & order component” which says, in part “….and that they will not molest the person or property of any inhabitant of such ceded tract, or the property of Her Majesty the Queen, or interfere with or trouble any person passing or travelling through the said tract, or any part thereof…. ”
There’s also some laughable stuff about Indians agreeing not to break the law & how they promise to help the police find persons who have.
FSIN & that crowd always blather on about how the treaties are sacred & must never be changed etc but I guess when they say that they only refer to treaty rights not treaty responsibilities.
For the past 6 years the band has been under “third party management”, an action generally taken when financial irregularities, non reporting, “or” incompetence occurs in First Nations governance.
Shouldn’t that have read AND instead of OR.
Oh, and Beardys Cree.
When your sucking on the public tit, accountability is essential. Once you get on your feet and start paying your own way you can do whatever the hell you like.
Horny Toad
It is about time some Indians read the treaties and understand the word “cede” I am tired of being called a land thief. We did not steal your land , your ancestors signed it over to the govenment of Canada in exchange for some goodies. When My ancestors were deposed of their holdings in Europe we moved ahead. We would be laughed at for saying we were screwed 300 years ago From treaty 4
“The Cree and Saulteaux Tribes of Indians, and all other the Indians inhabiting the district hereinafter described and defined, do hereby cede, release, surrender and yield up to the Government of the Dominion of Canada, for Her Majesty the Queen, and Her successors forever, all their rights, titles and privileges whatsoever, to the lands included within the following limits, that is to say:
Commencing at a point on the United States frontier due south of the northwestern point of the Moose Mountains; thence due north to said point of said mountains: thence in a north-easterly course to a point two miles due west of Fort Ellice; thence in a line parallel with and two miles westward from the Assiniboine River to the mouth of the Shell River; thence parallel to the said river and two miles distant therefrom to its source; thence in a straight line to a point on the western shore of Lake Winnipegosis, due west from the most northern extremity of Waterhen Lake; thence east to the centre of Lake Winnipegosis; thence northwardly, through the middle of the said lake (including Birch Island), to the mouth of Red Deer River; thence westwardly and southwestwardly along and including the said Red Deer River and its lakes, Red Deer and Etoimaini, to the source of its western branch; thence in a straight line to the source of the northern branch of the Qu’Appelle; thence along and including said stream to the forks near Long Lake; thence along and including the valley of the west branch of the Qu’Appelle to the South Saskatchewan; thence along and including said river to the mouth of Maple Creek; thence southwardly along said creek to a point opposite the western extremity of the Cypress Hills; thence due south to the international boundary; thence east along the said boundary to the place of commencement. Also all their rights, titles and privileges whatsoever to all other lands wheresoever situated within Her Majesty’s North-West Territories, or any of them. To have and to hold the same to Her Majesty the Queen and Her successors for ever.”
27th AFN Annual General Assembly
July 11-13, 2006
Vancouver, BC
Candidates for Upcoming Election for the Office of National Chief of Assembly of First Nations …-
Paul Martin, Jr., is a shooin. No, sorry: a shoeindian. …-
Paul Martin, Jr., elected.
Budget: $10,000,000,000.00 (from Canadian taxpayers).
Paul said: “I love Canada.”
Paul was a shoein. …-
Phil Fontaine gives the crowd a thumbs up. (CP PHOTO/Richard Lam)
VANCOUVER (CP) – Incumbent Phil Fontaine was re-elected Wednesday as leader of the Assembly of First Nations.
if we all left and went back to our roots it would be mighty crowded in Olduvai Gorge.
guess what redboys whitey aint leaving and neither are all the sports stars we brought from africa.or the guys we taxed to get here to build the railways and seem to do just fine without getting everything handed to them.
I believe the band members when they say this blockade was born out of frustration. It mustn’t be much fun to be chief or councillor if you can’t get your mitts on the loot.
Fontaine Martin and the Fountain of Kelowna El Dorado Accord, aka Librano$ Go For The Gold:
Recall Paul Martin, Jr.;
Rip Offf The Canadian Taxpayers is the Goal Number One Priority.
Phil Fontaine determined to bring up Kelowna Accord as new AFN …
Canada.com – 9 hours ago
VANCOUVER (CP) – Freshly re-elected Assembly of First Nations leader Phil Fontaine said his first priority is to make sure the Kelowna Accord is revived
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I live in a community that is surrounded by 5 reserves. COUNT THEM…5!! The majority of the population in this city are Indians (I dont feel the right to call them anything other than because they dont deserve it). They do nothing….85% of them are on EI and Unemployment. They want to work, but they want cash paid under the table so that they do not have to lose these priveleges. I have actually heard them say that. I have no respect for them. They dont try anything for themselves and call me names yet I am racist when I go and get a job and make something of my life.They get paid even to go to school. Here I was paying my way for my education, and my classmate was getting paid to go there. And when she didnt have a car to get to school with. They bought here a new one. She walked onto the lot and picked up the sportiest and most pricey car she could find. And when it broke down well hell she just parked it in the bush. It was paid for anyways, and the band asked her if she wanted a new one. It infuriates me that they think we owe them something. If you want us to treat you fair and to pay back what we owe you, crawl home to your reserve and stay there. Dont crowd up my space and stop breaking the law and getting away with it. Indians are nothing but trash and I have no use for them
Actually Brian M. If you and the rest of your peeon followers would kindly extract your redneck from your sphincter long enough to do some research, rather than listening to your father, “uncle jebediah” or what ever you call him around the local cross burning you would know that the ‘natives’ were not conquered and occupied. As a matter of fact the early settlers were scared sh**less and only began to grow some nads after your disease infested forefathers unleashed epidemic diseases which killed off millions and more settlers landed then they were all brave and sh*t. Even then the early settlers who claimed the natives were conquered were bsing as it was proven that it was just more propoganda bs. And Robert J Ba of BS the original inhabitants were very well equipped for their purposes. It’s just easy to claim the superiority of your borrowed evolution, (West Africa and South West Asia) please stand up, because your forefathers whilst fleeing their own homelands in fear of their lives did not allow the original inhabitants the chance to gain the inevitable advantages. In fact with out native guides who by the way fed them and had shown them commodities and the commercial routes (integral to Canada’s early economy) the early peeons would have just died or went back home to be persecuted. Early Native leaders often wondered why they didn’t just do away with them upon first contact. If anything their biggest mistake was actually believing the decrepid race’s stories of despair and pity (lies) and their willingness to share the land with these introduced parasites.
Conquered, settled whatever!!! If I went back to my one of my ancestoral home lands (mixed decendancy = mutt) and tried to get land back I would be laughed out of the country or shot!! My grandparents, parents and siblings were born here. I am just as NATIVE as anyone on the reserves although I am white . I thought that once land was conquered it belonged to the conquerors (or was it traded for a beer and a half pack of smokes)Just ranting!