Go Joe Go!
Only Mr. Volpe’s campaign released a figure for how many new members it had signed up across the country: 35,000.
[30,000 of them are Conservative party members. Don’t tell anyone.]
Bill Roggio has created a web page which contains links to the articles, photogalleries and multimedia from the Afghanistan embed.
“Star Wars” critics
… must bear the major burden of responsibility for the delays and setbacks that have prevented the missile defense system from becoming fully operational long before the present crisis with North Korea.”
(click image for link)
Add your own in the comments.
Guess who the only people defending and admitting to the use of meal allowances for mortgage payments are! The Liberals, obviously.
From the original Ottawa Citizena article:
“Algoma Liberal MP Brent St. Denis confirmed he dips into his per diem to apply money to the mortgage on his Ottawa home, which he owned before he was first elected in 1993.”
Oh, and Garth Turner is calling for an end to this little loophole (thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1152136215954&call_pageid=968332188774&col=968350116467). Yes, he’s been called an attention-grabbing, media-seeking nutbar, but it’s hard not to notice that the Liberals are still hungry for taxpayer dollars and the Conservatives are the ones calling for the right thing to be done.
The Examiner has assumed that the Star Wars program was actually doable.
Much of the criticism came from the science community who pointed out how technologically daunting the Star Wars program was, and how optimistic the cost estimates were. Even today it is not at all clear that such a thing is even possible.
To ignore these criticisms and assume that the U.S. would have a working missile defense shield in place today if the political will had been there is a massive flaw in The Examiners argument.
examinerdotcom also has a story on the increase in the number of large western wildfires which researchers say may be a result of you-know-what.
Somebody please call George Lucas. I’m sure Hollywood could find a movie theme in the Examiner article.
And they think I’m a troll!
Canoe Live: Forums (One response so far. Left liberal Moonbats are sleeping?)
Topic: Harper’s Birthday Visit
Message:
How would you characterize Harper’s blossoming relationship with President G.W. Bush? Is the manner in which Harper has conducted himself ultimately good for Canada?
bisbee
7/06/2006 12:14:49
RE: Harper’s Birthday Visit
Message:
Repairing the overwhelming damage created by Chretien and Martin (and the merry band of lyin’ thievin’ cheatin’ scandal-ridden corruption-prone Libranos) must be undertaken to further Canada’s best interests. North America is the model for the World, and petty trade scandals etc. do not enhance this image. It is very damaging to have an antagonistic trade relationship with your 85% trading partner, or perhaps it is just downright stupid! The LIEberals, however, never did worry about “stupid” things as they did stupid things consistently!
Rabbit, to put up fence to keep the fox out of your hutch may or may not work but not trying and doing nothing will definitly fail. Or I guess you could try the Canadian approach of a “stern” letter of disapproval… Wouldn’t that leave you stewing.
Star wars – what a crock. Next thing they will tell us they can put a man on the moon. Dreamers all.
There has been much criticism of the Star Wars program or recast as Star Wars Lite: Ballistic Missile Defence.
The physics to overcome is daunting and some of the science based criticism is valid.
If I can hark back to the Avro Arrow, this plane would have been coming to the end of its service life. This unique platform would have had the capacity to carry air to air missiles from a long range standoff.
With updated materials and engine design and an improved AIM 54 Phoenix like missile system this would have proved to be a formidable weapons platform for standoff missile defence. Flying combat patrol at high altitude with advanced rocketry weapons complement would have been the ticket.
Further, it would be a practical alternative to blue ray lasers which still have to overcome Rayleigh scattering in the upper atmosphere.
The spacious weapons bay of the Avro would be sure to have enough armament to ensure that air to air on an incoming nuke would prevent detonation over major population centers. AFB Cold Lake would be close enough to the Artic/Pacific Oceans to catch strays that US Carrier groups didn’t catch in initial launch phase.
F-22 Raptors would still serve as a primary fighter role, but a robust updated Arrow II as missile interceptor flying combat patrol at high altitude would act as last line of defence to an incoming ICBM.
Then we can recall all the brain drain that left to the US to NASA etc. after the initial Avro Arrow was cancelled. Coulda, woulda, shoulda…
Avro Arrow II: Dare to dream.
Continental defence Canadian style!! Bring on the maple syrup.
Cheers
TC:
To spend trillions (with a T) on something that never had a chance to work is not smart, no matter how serious the threat. Those resources could go towards eleviating other threats facing the U.S., or towards using other means to eleviate the threat of a nuclear assault on the U.S.
Here’s some examples of projects:
o Peventing nuclear bombs being imported to the U.S. by terrorists.
o Making sure California buildings canb resist major earthquackes.
o Medical problems like cancer, coronary disease, aids, etc.
Money is never unlimited, no matter how serious the threat. Choices must always be made. The argument against a defense shield is that there are equally serious threats which the U.S. would have a better chance of being successful at eleviating.
Canada’s defence has largely rested on three large bodies of water backed up by the generosity of the American taxpayer in protecting the continent on behalf of largely ungrateful Canadians.
“Canada’s defence…. It has worked so far….”
Defense? Worked for who? Pussy pascifists or Islamic terrorists?
The science of star wars is daunting in the same way the trying to send probe from one rapidly moving object to another rapidly moving object over a period of 9 month and several million miles is daunting. You have to aim your probe where you calculate that target object is going to be in 9 months from where the origin is now. Over millions of miles. That’s a damn hard thing to do. But it’s been done before on a smaller scale. First in earth orbit then again on the moon. Now we’ve put probes on Mars.
We also put probes on a fricken comet. We’ve sent probes around the other planets and into deep space.
We’ve split the atom and done a hundred thousand things that people wouldn’t have thought possible before they were done.
Rabbit,
The people who have been saying star wars is impossible are left-wing democrats who are ideologically against star wars who happen to be scientists. It’s not their profession that is the origin of their objection but their politics.
Given time and money, almost anything is possible. Your objection isn’t about the possible. Your objection is that you don’t want it done regardless.
The honest position for you to take is that you don’t want star wars because you don’t believe that you should spend money defending your country against the kind of threat that N.Korea poses. Just saying it can’t be done so why try is the mealy-mouthed way of trying to sound reasonable while objecting on political grounds.
At least you make an argument of some sort. Steve D. can’t even do that…
How many time have we been attack?
I just our defence system is working just fine.
But if we live in fear then someone gets to sell lots of arms.
I remember that, shortly after Operation Desert Storm, the first war against Iraq in 1991, the U.S. Army claimed that an earlier model of the Patriot had intercepted 45 out of 47 Iraqi Scuds—a 95 percent success rate. Over the following year, the Army lowered its estimate, stating that Patriots intercepted 79 percent of the Scuds launched over Saudi Arabia and 40 percent of those fired at Israel. These remain the official figures today.
However, even the revisions wildly overstate the Patriot’s performance in Desert Storm. A later report by the General Accounting Office concluded that Patriot missiles destroyed only 9 percent of the Scuds they tried to engage. The Israeli Defense Force calculated they’d destroyed just 2 percent. William Cohen, Bill Clinton’s secretary of defense, admitted upon leaving office in January 2001, “The Patriot didn’t work.”
So if they can’t stop a out dated scud why would anyone want to trust their safety against ICBM’s to them.
TC:
Who are you, Kreskin? You think you can read my mind?
My arguments against star wars are exactly as stated – it would cost trillions, take a very long time, and has an excellent possibility of never working. Indeed the resources required might sap the strength of the U.S. so much that it would leave it more, not less, vulnernable.
I would gladly see it done if it had a reasonable chance of success at a reasonable price and date. Who wouldn’t? Given the development and tests on stars wars so far, however, there is no reason to believe this is so.
“If I can hark back to the Avro Arrow, this plane would have been coming to the end of its service life. This unique platform would have had the capacity to carry air to air missiles from a long range standoff.”
“Then we can recall all the brain drain that left to the US to NASA etc. after the initial Avro Arrow was cancelled. Coulda, woulda, shoulda…”
Posted by: Hans Rupprecht
Yes, and guess which political party was responsible for this sell out to US interests?
But, of course…that was then, this is now. The current government would never sell out to US interests…
If it takes a very long time, Rabbit, then trillions isn’t very much per year. As to your third argument, 110 years ago people said airplanes would never work.
Steve d.
That may be your most pathetic sophistry yet.
Our defences have been tested far less than the others. We have to catch the terrorists every time. They only have to get through once.
The US and Britain (and presumable other countries) have caught many attempts to attack them but have let some go by. This is why the enemy has to be actively engaged instead of passively trying to do “police work” to catch their attempts.
Destroy the enemy in their own homes so they don’t destroy you in yours.
The article on BMD is so full of misleading comments and errors that it’s hard to know where to start. To call the current ‘capability’ ‘rudimentary’ is being kind, given the nature of the testing that’s been done so far, and the article’s clear implication that some combination of Aegis destroyers and GMD interceptors at Ft. Greeley and Vandenburg have a ‘capability’ to shoot down a missile coming at North America from NK is just plain wrong.
On top of all that, the author laments the passing of a program like GPALS: about 1,000 orbiting ‘Brilliant Pebbles’-type interceptors and 500-600 GBI. The ‘estimated’ cost 16 or 17 years ago was $40 billion. One can only imagine what such lunacy would actually have cost had it been allowed to go through as George Bush I wished, arguing as he did that it was needed to protect America from ‘rogue states’ and the dreaded narco-terrorists.
Plus ca change.
Just plain wrong?
According to Reuters, on 2005-02-25:
“A missile fired from a U.S. Navy ship off Kauai, Hawaii, intercepted and destroyed a mock warhead on Thursday, the fifth success in six such test of the fledgling U.S. anti-missile shield’s sea-based leg, the Pentagon announced.
“The target was tracked from the cruiser Lake Erie using the Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense Weapon System developed by Lockheed Martin Corp. It was launched from the U.S. Pacific Missile Range Facility at Barking Sands, Kauai. The ship fired a Standard Missile (SM)-3 at the target outside the earth’s atmosphere during the descent phase of flight, Lockheed said. Raytheon Co. is developing the SM-3.
“The Defense Department plans to field up to 30 SM-3 missiles on Aegis-equipped ships by 2007 to destroy short- and medium-range ballistic missiles in mid-flight. Other systems are being developed to defend at different stages.
“For the ground-based mid-course leg of ballistic missile defense, managed for the Pentagon by Boeing Co., five of eight shoot down tests have been completed successfully.”
Perhaps that’s why Space War magazine reported, on 2004-10-02:
“US destroyers equipped with Aegis missile tracking systems have been deployed in the Sea of Japan near North Korea as part of a controversial new US missile defense system, the Navy’s civilian chief said Friday.
“We do have our Aegis destroyers deployed and indeed they do have tracking capability as we committed to do before the end of the year,” Navy Secretary Gordon England told reporters.”
Vitruvius:
First mtisaduffer says “If we can put a man on the moon…” and now you say “people thought airplaines would never work”.
Well I suspect (although I’m not certain) that missile shields would eventually work on current missiles, given enough time and money. But all the evidence points to a lot of time and a lot of money. Missile defense isn’t going to be developed out of a bicycle shop, no matter how boldly we dream.
And I said current missiles. What happens when people start considering how to fool the defense systems, as indeed they already have?
No one has limitless resources. The winners are the ones that use what they have wisely. Star wars doesn’t fit the bill. It just distracts from other vital projects that might do some good.
Ballistic missile defence already works. Other programs will be tried. Some will work, some won’t. All will be debated. Budgets will be apportioned across competing programs. Elections will be held. Where’s the problem?
Unless, unless, the problem is people who run around confusing everyone by using loaded terms like Star Wars in order to scare everyone into diverting all their resouces into the pet projects of those doing the deliberate confusing.
Steve – please, stop. Your only saving grace at this point is anonymity – because you have so utterly devastated your own credibility with a ceaseless parade of unsupported, historically inaccurate and just plain idiotic comments. It’s actually painful to read your stuff.
Now, push away from the keyboard and find something productive to do. You’re typing your life away.
You’ll get along well with Pat Buchanan, Steve, he’s an isolationist too.
That wasn’t a suggestion, by the way. Take a few days break before you post here again, or I’ll have to consider putting you on moderation.
For your own good.
Can’t ignore last comment from steved. You actually believe what you just wrote. You believe that because we have not been chasing these thugs, we are perfectly positioned to catch these people before they do something? An incredible leap of logic. I am astounded by your grasp of reality, and almost speechless, how could I actually think any different after being privy to such persuasiveness, I am now a convert to your philosophy, you are a god.
Stevd once again makes good point, eminent sense. However, reliable (?) sources suggest NK, Iran, Cuba, et.al have done arms deals with Russia, China.
Maz2: explore moniker, poster username, dickrambone, Cnews, June 9th/06. Waiting your response with “baited breath.” Advising my new username: IrishCanadian(n)a. Considering as second — Elliot Ness(a). Maybe, davidson (not me)would know something about him?
Remind you too, Maz2, “no Irish need apply.” Politically correct, “ethnic cleansing.” Give it arrest.
Neighbour, if you exist and you do, then I exist. take it as a given in terms of logic alone. That’s my view for what it’s worth. Nice to meet you. Have the BEST day. laughing out loud, oh right, lol.
While i will agree that Germany did have rocket technology in 1945,I would have to say that North Korea’s tech would be a little newer by,oh,at least 40 years.
Steve D:
Why don’t you google the Iranian Shehab 3M missile which has a range of 1500 Km. This is considerably advanced over the V2 of 1945 vintage.
http://www.tau.ac.il/jcss/sa/v9n1p8Shapir.html
Drawing board designs for version 4,5,6 with the latter range being in the 4000km would indicate a bit of a rethink of your long term position.
Given Ahmahdinejad wants to “wipe Israel off the map in a single storm” and so far Iran has thumbed its nose at the UN Security Council; is it still a considered response to hope that the “bad” guys will simply go away?
Given that North Korea have been actively flogging their hardware to Iran; and the Russians and Chinese have been providing ‘technical assistance’ on a variety of nuclear projects for one to assert that one needn’t raise an eyebrow is equivalent to whistling past the graveyard.
Ahhh, my dear rabbit. You are the one with the ESP as you know all the military secrets there are because you read the NY Times. Do you honestly think anyone would tell the world and potential enemies just what their weaknesses are? If so, I have a bridge in Saskatchewan… and as in good a shape as the roads to it.
So we have never been attacked, eh? The U-boats in the St Lawrence were just Das Love Boots, ya?
Oh, and those “stern” letters that are effective?? Just explain that to buddy that almost died in a Saudi prison (name escapes me now).
Ethnic cleansers to be arrested. Ethnic cleansing, the politically correct reference — give it a rest.
Kudos to CSIS, RCMP, local police for preventing terrorist acts on Canadian soil.
Terrorism handled on case per case basis at community level. Makes great sense.
Canadian sentinel: Referring to your “fart” today — here’s a fact I observed with my own eyes along with some fellow travellers. On touring Drumheller and the badlands years ago, one of the museum board displays referred to “Alfarta” when they obviously meant “Alberta.”
Wonder if that’s been corrected yet? If only to divert attention away from the CO2 emissions problem thing you know. Sometimes I am “full” of myself, but usually a product called GasX clears it up.
Will say this though, if scientists are correct there’s some odd ten years left — as a friend of mine says (smiling) that’s going to be a big barrel of no fun….blah, blah, blah to quoting Shakespeare (terrific range). Didn’t old William say “man struts and frets his time across the stage and then is seen no more.”
cead mille failte to your fine community. As I wear the green I support progress.
Listen up Dickrambone. You’re not on the right track. In fact, facing derailment.
Ballistic missile defence already works.
Actually, it depends on what you’re talking about when you mean ‘ballistic missile defence,’ but for the most part–no, it doesn’t.
First, I stand by ‘just plain wrong’ comment, despite the article regarding the Aegis test: the Aegis system is for short- and medium-range missiles, so it won’t be intercepting a North American-bound ICBM from NK, if such a thing is ever built.
Second, an Aegis-launched interceptor would not be able to stop a NK ICBM in its boost phase: that’s not what it’s designed to do.
Third, the Ground-Based Interceptors in AK and CA, despite the claim of 5 for 8 successful tests, are very far from having any kind of proven capability: the circumstances of the tests were not anything like operationally realistic, and the Dec 2004 and Dec 2005 tests fizzled completely when the interceptors failed to leave their silos. Cost per test: something north of $100 million, which is great for Boeing, but not so great for protecting people.
A Congressional Research Service report from January 2006 giving an overview of the kinetic-kill concept for BMD is here.
Here’s a Q & A on missile defence with former US Assistant Secretary of Defense for Testing Philip Coyle, who says on the basis of the evidence “I say that the system has no demonstrated capability to defend the U.S. under realistic operational conditions.”
He should know.
Two good pieces on what still need to be done for the Canadian Forces;
Jack Granatstein: “Paper Promises? Or Real Defence Purchases?”
http://www.ccs21.org/articles/granatstein/2006/jlg_30_jun_Paper_Promises.htm
Senator Colin Kenny: “New military money only a start”
http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/editorial/story.html?id=8b1b5bd3-d3bc-4a40-a0b1-8d763e90270b
And William Watson wishes we would just buy the needest stuff cheapest, abroad if that’s where it is, instead of all the focus on creating jobs in Canada: “Floating pork barrels”
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=fcaa593c-f4f8-448b-94a0-4f26bf4b2d1e&p=2
The way it should be, but that will always be a dream given Canadian political realities and soft popular support for military spending.
Mark
Ottawa
If Hugo first, and I remain, we shall build Eden together.
“Supreme love is the love for the collective.”
The insatiable thirst of sovialism for perfection: Utopia.
Why is the natural end of sovialism: prisons, gulags, killing fields, and hell on earth?
Who said this: Jesus, Mohammed, Mao, Adolf, Uncle Joe, at al?
To the sovialist there is no history to reflect upon. The goal is the same always: The New Eden.
The body count necessary to achieve/build Eden is of no consequence: The End justifies the Means. The natural end result is nihilism; the dissolving of humans and society into nothingness.
Nihilism is where the left liberal/socialists are now. …-
“Those who are really with me must be with me in their spirits – they must be ready to die with me … they must be able to forget material goods and rid themselves of all,” he said recently. “Supreme love is the love for the collective.” …-
Hugo Re-Invents “Socialism” in Venezuela
http://www.paulding.net/bin/url.cgi/13335.12
Kate:
Canada’s defence has largely rested on three large bodies of water backed up by the generosity of the American taxpayer in protecting the continent on behalf of largely ungrateful Canadians.
This small paragraph captures the whole reality up to this time. Before the Americans it was the British. Nice summery Kate.
Canada has been playing the youth card far too long. Its about time we grew up as a Nation. Took on some real world responsibilities. Put our boots down where ours mouths have been flapping. This includes an , Effective, Modern, Mobile, well equipped reaction force. With the logistic capacity to be anywhere in the world in as short a time as possible.
I see no reason not to be part of a missile shield. Canadian science is second to none. We could contribute immensely. This would increase jobs as well. What makes it sugar sweet. Is that we don’t pay a dime for it. Just my opinion.
Since most of our national interests are the same as the States , is it so hard to understand why where allies. Like duh, to the moon bats. Considering 85% of our trade is with this partner.
maz2: “Supreme love is the love for the collective.”
Reminds me of the BORG:
“Resistance is futile, assimilation is inevitable, join the collective… Resistance is futile”
Now where did I put my brain control implant device?
Texas Canuck: “Das Love Boat ya?”
Wait until you see those Romanian galley girls!
Red sky at night, sailors delight, courtesy of Pierre Pettigrew, Judy Sgro and Joe Volpe.
Actung, strippers on deck!! Torpedo 1 LOS!! Torpedo 2 LOS!! Dive, dive, dive.
Heads up, some of the progressive’s are having a conflict of conscience.
http://redtory.blogspot.com/2006/07/what-would-you-do-if-volpe-wins.html
“With all the bally-hoo today about the success of Joe Volpe’s membership drive campaign, I was wondering… What would YOU do if he actually became leader of the Liberal Party? Would you suck it up and just support the guy, however reluctantly or unenthusiastically, because you’re a completely diehard Liberal; would you simply tune out and sit on your hands in the next election; or, would you bolt the party to find another place where you felt more spiritually at home? I certainly know what I’d do, but I’m curious as to what the possible reaction of others might be.”
Do a little experiment. Take a globe and a piece of string. Start from Pyongyang and connect by the shortest route to Washington D.C. Remember that N Korea’s missiles tend to drop short. When the man who claims to have shot 11 holes in one in a single round decides to take a shot with a missile, does Toronto suddenly look like a great place to live? Okay, a bit of a long shot. How about a rocket aimed at say Denver Colorado? Wanna be living in Vancouver? Patriot was an early ABM attempt as Taepodong is an early ICBM attempt. But I would no more sneer at the possibility of Patriot development making a workable ABM than I would sneer at the V2 eventually leading to a workable moon rocket (oh yeah — already done, and by the same scientists). The grim calculus is that the leader of Utopia (officially declared several years ago) need only sneak one through to cause a holocaust, but his limited industrial capability and technical inferiority make it unlikely that more than a couple of missiles could actually hit population centres. And that’s all the ABM has to stop. Even it means launching a hundred ABMs to do so, it’s worth it. We can no more guarantee our safety with diplomacy than Neville Chamberlain could; with a complete nutbar like Kim in charge, even less so. I say develop the Spitfires — I mean ABMs.
The Ying-Ji-802 land attack and anti-ship cruise missile [Western designation SACCADE], is an improved version of the C-801 which employs a small turbojet engine in place of the original solid rocket engine. The weight of the subsonic (0.9 Mach) Yingji-802 is reduced from 815 kilograms to 715 kilograms, but its range is increased from 42 kilometers to 120 kilometers. The 165 kg. (363 lb.) warhead is just as powerful as the earlier version. Since the missile has a small radar reflectivity and is only about five to seven meters above the sea surface when it attacks the target, and since its guidance equipment has strong anti-jamming capability, target ships have a very low success rate in intercepting the missile. The hit probability of the Yingji-802 is estimated to be as high as 98 percent. The Yingji-802 can be launched from airplanes, ships, submarines and land-based vehicles, and is considered along with the US “Harpoon” as among the best anti-ship missiles of the present-day world.
Yup just like a V2
Missiles have their own defence systems. Making it harder for defensive missiles to intercept.
I’d rather have a pilot chasing them then trusting a ground based missile defence.
Look at the Missile system defending the White House what good did it do on 9/11?
My dear Macgoo. First, you claim that you would rather have pilots defending against missiles, then you claim that the extant pilot-based system wasn’t particularly effective in scrambling on 2001-09-11. That won’t do, sir.
Agreed, DrD. If one looks at the 5/6 success rate for the sea-launched leg of the Aegis MD system, you’re talkin’ 83.3 %. So if one fires three of them at a rogue missile, you’re talkin’:
0.833+0.833*(1-0.833)+0.833*(1-(0.833+0.833*(1-0.833)))
Or 99.53 %. Now, we’ve got three opportunities to take out a rogue missile, ascent, mid-flight, and descent. Assuming all three of our systems designed for those phases operate at the rate calculated above, now you’re talkin’:
0.9953+0.9953*(1-0.9953)+0.9953*(1-(0.9953+0.9953*(1-0.9953)))
Or 99.9999896 % chance of taking out the rogue missile.
Now, certainly, that’s not perfect, but since these projects are in the low billions, not high trillions, I think they present a reasonable cost/benefit profile.
“Supreme love is the love for the collective.”
Quote from Hugo Chavez, the Socialist Messiah from Venezuela.
“I love Canada”.
Quote from Paul Martin, Jr., the Socialist ex-Messiah from Canada.
The path of socialism leads but to the graves of millions of humans; 100 million and counting. …-
Communism
How Many Did Communist Regimes Murder? The Black Book of Communism (and search) – 100 million innocent humans have been killed by socialism so far. …
markhumphrys.com/communism.html – 25k –
In the first phase of the process of coping with the potential for misuse inherent in humans’ evolution of understanding of and ability to manipulate nuclear processes, we found that disaster was avoided by a generally agreed upon policy known as Mutually Assured Destruction. It sounds silly, but it isn’t (anthropologically, it’s just two guys too strong to fight), and it worked.
Right, on to the second phase, now. Let’s say the peace-loving nations of the planet distribute some reasonable resources to polishing and deploying the sorts of anti-ballistic missile technologies represented by Aegis and related systems. For example, in the case of NK, Japan can do boost-phase, Canada can do mid-flight phase, and the US can do descent-phase. You can see how the probabilities I elucidated previously become even more in our favour with redundant systems and ABM diversity.
If the planet was reasonably peppered with anti-ballistic missile grains, it could, in effect, herald a new era of Mutually Assured Ineffectiveness, which may serve us quite well for quite some time.
Somebody who was insane.
Vitruvius:
If the planet was reasonably peppered with anti-ballistic missile grains, it could, in effect, herald a new era of Mutually Assured Ineffectiveness, which may serve us quite well for quite some time.
When dealing with human nature. I find Homo Simpering to be. The real ultimate chaos generators. People can & do jump in any direction for reasons yet unknown or perhaps unknowable.
Thanks for the laugh. (O:}
You’re welcome, Revnant Dream. Chaos, however, is, how can I put this, vastly extra-homo-sapiens. I’m not trying to be a pest here, but if you are interested in additional reading you might like to check out:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamical_system
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_Theory
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractal
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every weapons system invented had to be tested.
the weight and length of a caveman’s club all the way up to the most sophisticated computer-controlled gps-guided dead-on-target cruise missile.
you have to ferret out the unforeseen glitches and incorporate the corrections and patches in future design and thence mass production.
star wars lacked final testability. Im not talking about lower level component testing but the overall total system coordination.
especially the software.
oyph the software.
how much software has worked right off the bat well enough to function as good as star wars would have to in order to drop 100% of the incoming missiles?
hmmmm ??? how much software has ever worked that good even the stuff fully tested in the lab ???
star wars lacked this level of testability.
ergo, it could not work the way it was sold.
so, what to do?
limited dollars folks !!! you spend the money where it is going to do more good.
and thats the war on terrorism, because THAT is the more plausible and likely route the Bomb will take onto american soil.
kim jong-il is looking for attention and publicity, what better way to loudly announce launches of missiles and then soon after do it for everyone to see. which is EXACTLY what happened, he got the attention he craved and the missiles were launched.
n korea has a miniscule handful of nukes and paltry delivery systems.
which could be countered by the minutemen from the cold war quite readily. the nuke threat from korea isnt 1000 missiles at once but only a few, 5 or 6 at most. they have no bomber or submarine delivery systems, so it has to be highly visible missiles. and n korea is on the other side of the pacific giving maximum lead time notice.
al queida on the other hand, who can say?
nukes are as small as a suitcase, it isnt just convenient phrasiology to describe them in those dimensions.
for that matter, whats to stop the n koreans from paying al quaeda to do the deed and then take the blame, or as they would put it, the credit for such an atrocity???
is star wars going to prevent this?
this is just a bigger and american version of the gawdawful and USELESS gun legislation here in canukistan.
warwick: re space technology ie lunar and planetary satellites and probes.
early moon probes all smashed into the surface taking pictures as the went. the scientists lacked the technology and level of development for soft landing.
now they try to soft land but it dont always work.
all the probes now sent to mars and elsewhere are supposed to soft land but about half still smash into their target or soft land but refuse to ‘talk ta me !!! hello mars probe !!! do you copy ???’. ie the british beagle mars probe, due to confusion between imperial and metric measurements of the decelleration rockets. (gotta love them brits and their half way to nowhere measurement stds)whammed into the polar region of mars last year. that’d 2005. 20 years after ronnie proposed star wars. 20 years to get the glitches out of navigation controls of the still rare and multi-billion dollar (pound) scientific probes. all the great attention getting one-shot probes and the scientists STILL cant get it right.
so, the success rate of your examples cited in defense of star wars is only 50% +/- effective.
not good enough !!!
in order to PAY OFF, ie prevent more damage that it costs to design and build and maintain, star wars has to WORK first time out and every time after that, very very close to the magical and elusive ONE HUNDRED PERCENT.
not gonna happen.
see previous posting ‘testability’
did I convince anybody??
LOL !!!
the only defense system that really finally stopped the 9/11 terrorists were the people on flight 93 fighting for their lives