Sent by a reader, who notes that there seemed to be more representation at the parade by government “flunkies” than by gays;
I saw a Children’s Aid float, an Ontario Teacher’s Association float, a CAW float, a CUPE float, and of course- the Fire Department, the Police, and the RCMP were in the parade.
Oh, concrete, lighten up. That wasn’t even an attack on Sentinel. A little friendly ribbing, jeesh. And hardly the first time between us.
Besides, my guess is Sentinel is a big enough boy that he can handle it and doesn’t need you running to his defence.
Ted
Someone said, “you want the old value system.”
That’s the system that’s brought us all this far; I’m not as confident about the “new value system”…
Ted said: “Well, which is it Sentinel? Which do you want: Ahmadinejad’s Iran or a Canada that has a few celebrations a year to celebrate life, liberty and security of person?”
I reply: Ted, we’re talking about a bunch of gay people walking down the street, for fecksake. How do you go from that to “life, liberty and security of person”? That’s the meaning of some gay people walking around? My, but you’re quite simple-minded if that’s your belief!
Liberals, eh? 😉
Sentinel:
Maybe I missed your point here:
“Oh, yeah… let’s turn it up a notch… let’s make The Netherlands look like Ahmadinejad’s Iran!
Oh, yeah… let’s make Canada the land where absolutely anything goes!”
… but if you were suggesting it was one or the other, I have no doubt which parade I’m walking in.
Ted
“I blog in my skivvies, too, to demonstrate how proud I am!”
Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at June 26, 2006 07:36 PM
Thanks CS,a visual I could have done without. 😉
Pride cometh before the fall
I remember a few years ago (or so), a group in Regina lobbied for Family Pride Day.
The city did make a proclamation, but the LGBT opposed this, saying it did not promote diversity in our society.
Where is the equality that the LGBT talk so much about where, on one hand, we are to accept their “values” and yet on the other hand, we are not allowed to celebrate our “values”?
BTW, Ted, my memory told me that it was Chretien as Justice Minister under Trudeau that abolished the ban on homosexuality. I recall reading about it in Collier’s Encyclopedia, but guess I mixed the names up or something since. But who cares, anyway? Ain’t a Liberal a Liberal, after all? Oh, I guess not… after whatshisname defected to my side on Day One of the new admin… plus there seems to be two kinds of Liberals, the Martinites and the Chretienites. Still infighting and all that.
Poor Teddy. Gonna be in the political wilderness for a real long time! Whatever will some of you folks do in the meantime, besides practice law or blog and play in bands with names like “Shit from Hell”?
Get used to it. The new sheriff is doing the job you guys never did, and the townfolk love him for it. He’ll be in for a good long time.
A big thank you to the Librano$$$ for engineering their own ignominious downfall. I feared they’d be in forever!
Thanks Ted, fair comment.
The way I see it, Ted, is that it’s not so much about homosexuality, it’s about sexuality. Most non-adolescent folks don’t want sexuality in their face all the time (literally or otherwise). So you can see how any collective that wishes to idenfity itself sexually would likely be well advised to tread lightly.
Interestingly, perhaps, I too happened to attend a few Gay Parades in San Francisco, in the early 1980s, as my business took me to the area, and some colleagues invited me. They were indeed, great parties. And they didn’t go down Market Street to Union Square. They were at Castro and 18th, and as public functions go, they were as close to private as you can get. There were no children there.
There were some great Exotic Erotica (largely heterosexual) parties for Haloween in San Francisco in that era too. They also didn’t happen in Union Square. Actually, one great one happened in the three-level underground parking garage of city hall. After midnight. Three bands, nine bars, party on. There were no children there.
Look. Something like 90 % of Canadians believe in equal human rights for homosexuals. Why are gays spending so much political capital at the margin? And the same thing goes for the so-cons too. People have to get over some of these changes and get back to good decent common public behaviour, while still leaving the nightclubs alone, independent of the changes. The changes will never stop, and net net they’ve been for the good.
Ted, I was sitting in the window at a local deli having a late breakfast a couple years ago and the local gay parade came marching by. (1) There’s nothing worse than an aging drag queen. (2) What is that Communist Party of Canada banner doing in there? I don’t need that sort of thing. Not before I’ve finished my coffee and eggs, anyway.
Parades should be for children, not adults. Adults should know better.
You people are so terrified of sex. You people think that teaching kids how to put on a condom will ruin them for life, and that if they see a few breasts or penises, (what, only four, Ted? :>) or leather gear it means that the world is coming to an end. Take a deep breath, people — by the time you exhale, the Liberals are going to be steering our country in the right direction again.
Mr. Giles above raised a very valid point!
The gays want to have their exclusive (they call it “inclusive”) parade, but they don’t want anyone else to have their own parade?
If this actually happened, this is proof that the gay movement might not be about “inclusion” after all. Perhaps it’s about supremacy?
BTW, Cdn Observer, actually, I look good in my skivvies. Over ten years of hardcore bodybuilding saw to it, even though I’ve put on a bit of a spare tire recently. Oops, hope I didn’t turn anyone on, except maybe the girls… 😉
“I was asked to justify my claims with examples, and I did so.”
Yes, but you were pulling them out of your backside, as I pointed out.
It did happen, Sentinel, and you are wrong. Someone organized a “Family Pride Day” and tried to exclude gays and gay families (gay parents and gay children). Heterosexuals are hardly banned from the Gay Pride Parade, they just wouldn’t be allowed in the GAY Pride Parade if they opposed homosexuality.
The equivalent would be, as you suggested, holding a Heterosexual Pride Parade and allowing gay people to join in as long as they didn’t oppose heterosexuals.
And p.s., please stop trying to force us into thinking about you in your skivvies, especially with all of your talk about hardcore and trying to turn people on. Kate runs a classier joint than that.
Ted
“A million people turn out to watch the parade. Like it or not, that’s a million people that do want to see this and do enjoy it and do have fun.”
The freak show at the circus gets a lot of attention and attendance as well.Me thinks most people go to the gay parade just to see if there really are men who have “boobs” and a “penis”.
But I think the “real” trick will be to have both a penis and a vagina. Now, THAT I’d pay to see.
Horny Toad
Um, we have a problem here, Ted. There is no such thing as a homosexual child. By definition, a child is pre-sexual. Then they’re adolescent. Then they’re adults. Then they’re post-sexual. Life goes on. Your slip is showing.
“Parades should be for children, not adults. Adults should know better.”
I just had a thought…How about an SDA parade.
There’s plenty of child-like adults at this blog. The 1 rule should be that you have to dress like your blogging name.
Vitruvius could dess like a Roman engineer, and ET like something from Star Wars. CS like a sentinnel and Irwin like a daisey. Come on conservatives let’s have some fun.
It could prove to be the event of the blogging party season.
Hermaphrodite, Toad.
Vitruvius: I meant gay adults (or even gay teens) with their straight parents. We are all still the children of someone.
And I don’t wear a slip.
Ted
Hey, I love a masquerade, David, and I look great as a Roman Engineer (Marcus Vitruvius Pollio to you, sir!), but for the sake of the children, let’s keep it off Center & Main, and get us a room. Ok?
The last thing the children need to see is grown men running around in leather skirts carrying large screws of Archimedes.
Maybe some of the millions of dollars of revenue from this Parade should go straight to our health care system…
Sorry I wasn’t more clear, Ted. When I said slip, I meant stumble (or equivalent). An article of clothing never occurred to me. But then, I didn’t read Freud.
Ted, since you’re pushing the “1 million people” propaganda, can you answer a few questions.
Toronto has 2.5 million people, the GTA has 5.
Were the supposed 1 million all GTA residents? That seems rather far-fetched.
10% of Toronto is Chinese, another 10% is South Asian, 21% is listed as new immigrants. A parade celebrating homosexuality doesn’t seem like it would have great appeal to those groups.
or was the supposed “1 million people” half residents and half visitors? (even 500,000 local residents sounds farfetched) Were the visitors there for the day or the weekend? Staying in hotels or with friends? How many hotel rooms in the GTA?
You would think that many visitors coming and going in such a small time span would cause major traffic problems. Didn’t hear a peep about that in the news.
Aside from the mention (no video) on a newscast, I’ve heard nothing about this parade watched by a supposed “1 million people”
Today’s Calgary Sun, Herald, National Post and Globe & Mail, can’t find a single peep about this parade.
1 in 33 Canadians attending a parade, sounds like it would be big, big news. Especially if it happens in Toronto.
I’ve heard more about the CN Tower than this big rootin’ tootin’ parade.
It’s more likely 100,000 watched and the organizers put out the 1 million number.
Factual statistics has never been a strong point of the homosexual agenda.
I understood you Vitruvius. Given the subject matter, I just wanted to make it 100%, perfectly, indisputably clear that I don’t wear a slip.
Children might be reading this blog after all!
Ted
Actually, I think I should apologize for my last comment. I don’t think it was called for.
Concrete:
It’s not your personal opinion, it’s poll after poll which shows that gay marriage does NOT have majority support. No matter what the militant gay lobby would have you, or more importantly MPs, believe.
poll after poll which shows that gay marriage does NOT have majority support
Oh, nonsense. Most polls have shown considerable support.
http://www.cbc.ca/story/news/national/2003/09/04/samesexpoll030904.html
http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_marz.htm
General Lee Wright:
Your source? Most polls say that either a majority support equal marriage or the population is evenly split.
Wikipedia tabulates the polls and concludes:
“Public opinion polls in Canada have found more times than not, that the majority of Canadians back full marriage rights for same-sex couples. This can be seen as far back as 1996 when an Angus-Reid/Southam News poll reached the conclusion that 49% of Canadians favoured same-sex marriage, while 47% were opposed. In May of 1999, a Globe&Mail/CTV/Angus-Reid poll had public support at 53% for gay marriage, and 44% opposed.
Although these numbers have fluctuated, very few polls on the issue show oppostition to same-sex marriage receiving more support than the extension of marriage to same-sex couples.”
(en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_in_Canada#Opinion_polls)
Some polls have shown a lot higher support for equal marriage and some polls have shown a majority in favour of not allowing equal marriage. Personally, I believe and accept that Canadians are roughly evenly split on the issue.
Clearly and most certainly though the statement “poll after poll which shows that gay marriage does NOT have majority support” is at best highly and deliberately misleading since poll after poll shows either roughly even or higher support for equal marriage. Rare is the poll that shows a majority opposed to equal marriage or in favour of only traditional marriage.
Ted
General Lee Wright:
Your source? Most polls say that either a majority support equal marriage or the population is evenly split.
Wikipedia tabulates the polls and concludes:
“Public opinion polls in Canada have found more times than not, that the majority of Canadians back full marriage rights for same-sex couples. This can be seen as far back as 1996 when an Angus-Reid/Southam News poll reached the conclusion that 49 percent of Canadians favoured same-sex marriage, while 47 percent were opposed. In May of 1999, a Globe&Mail/CTV/Angus-Reid poll had public support at 53% for gay marriage, and 44 percent opposed.
Although these numbers have fluctuated, very few polls on the issue show oppostition to same-sex marriage receiving more support than the extension of marriage to same-sex couples.”
Some polls have shown a lot higher support for equal marriage and some polls have shown a majority in favour of not allowing equal marriage. Personally, I believe and accept that Canadians are roughly evenly split on the issue.
Clearly and most certainly though the statement “poll after poll which shows that gay marriage does NOT have majority support” is at best highly and deliberately misleading since poll after poll shows either roughly even or higher support for equal marriage. Rare is the poll that shows a majority opposed to equal marriage or in favour of only traditional marriage.
Ted
So what’s the comment count running at… 120 or thereabouts? Brilliant!! Gay Pride sure as hell must be important.
Really, the most important way some can find to define themselves as sentient beings is their sexual proclivities.
Well…..I’m in. I prefer to have the girlfriend on top…..cowgirl style (being a lazy redneck and all).
Yep….that pretty much defines me.
So if anyone else out there is interested I’m thinking I might have a “coming out” float in the Calgary Stampede Parade.
I’m so proud!!!
Syncro
General Lee Wright:
Your source? Most polls say that either a majority support equal marriage or the population is evenly split.
Wikipedia tabulates the polls and concludes:
“Public opinion polls in Canada have found more times than not, that the majority of Canadians back full marriage rights for same-sex couples. This can be seen as far back as 1996 when an Angus-Reid/Southam News poll reached the conclusion that 49 percent of Canadians favoured same-sex marriage, while 47 percent were opposed. In May of 1999, a Globe&Mail/CTV/Angus-Reid poll had public support at 53% for gay marriage, and 44 percent opposed.
Although these numbers have fluctuated, very few polls on the issue show oppostition to same-sex marriage receiving more support than the extension of marriage to same-sex couples.”
Some polls have shown a lot higher support for equal marriage and some polls have shown a majority in favour of not allowing equal marriage. Personally, I believe and accept that Canadians are roughly evenly split on the issue.
Clearly and most certainly though the statement “poll after poll which shows that gay marriage does NOT have majority support” is at best highly and deliberately misleading since poll after poll shows either roughly even or higher support for equal marriage. Rare is the poll that shows a majority opposed to equal marriage or in favour of only traditional marriage.
Robert in Calgary: Give me a break. Attendees come from all over the world in fact – the Toronto Gay Pride Parade is the second largest in the world and the second largest (after Caribana – BTW, Caribana claims to pull in 1.1 million visitors: is that part of some agenda/propaganda? ) or maybe now even largest event in Toronto. It most certainly was in all of the Toronto papers, but I’m not surprised if it wasn’t in every paper in the country, neither is Caribana or many other big annual Toronto events. Toronto isn’t the centre of the universe you know.
As for traffic, you obviously didn’t try to get around the city on Sunday! Most are here for the weekend and staying with friends, if they even go home – the parties last all night. Like I said above, it is an incredibly friendly event. It is also very concentrated in a downtown part of the city so few are driving around I bet, but walking and you can tell. Not everyone lives and dies in a car all the time. Look at any photo of the parade, especially from a helicopter, and tell me only 100,000 are watching the parade!!
Look, Robert/Lee, you can hate that homosexuals are accepted in our society or not, but don’t convert your desire that they not be into a fabrication of news and facts.
Ted
In reference to the entry that bemoaned the fate of the word PRIDE in the future. I fully agree, but would like to add another word to the list. The complete subjication of the word “GAY”. In my laketime it was a compliment to be called “A Gay Blade”, mothers were hanging the name on their children, right Mrs Talese?, it was even used in Movie Titles, The Gay Divorcee, When hearts were young and Gay. Its kind of late to get it back now.
This is my first post here but I’ve been reading smalldeadanimals for a long time now. I saw it mentioned on CTV News once. I like the discussions here.
Just have a few comments on gay pride parades. First off, before anyone guesses I’m gay. I’m also a Tory and a solid right wing, pro-death penalty, pro-gun, pro-free trade, end all subsidies, turf the CBC, kind of guy. Yet many of these comments about gays and lesbians and gay pride parades just irk me. They do because they draw out the most idiotic and hurtful comments. People say they don’t hate gays but then say “deviant” “perverts” and the age old link and insinuation that gay = pedophile. If you’ve ever been to gay pride parades and I’ve been dragged to a couple you’d know the “freaks” as I call them are far and few. The vast, vast bulk of people are fully clothed, normal, etc etc etc.
All these kinds of really nasty comments accomplish one thing – they send gay moderates to the Liberals and god forbid the NDP.
That’s what stupid, narrow minded comments do.
They feed the left wing.
I asked a friend of mine online how their parade gets organizations to participate. They send out emails, phone calls, etc and see if people and groups are interested. They contact Churches even along with gov’t agencies and unions and local businesses. It is great advertising and a great way to get information out to people if you have a service to offer the public in particular.
As to how you get 1 million people in Toronto watching gay pride. Well its easy. People from as far away as Austrailia go to Toronto’s parade because it is considered one of the best in the world. The business side of me says “wow” that’s great for private business.
Any ways I hope people start thinking with their heads on this issue and show some respect for each other. We’re all here to do one thing – keep the NDP and Liberals out and our taxes down!
We all know there is only one poll that will count and that will be the one in Parliament.
PMSH has promised a debate and a vote.
I think the Canadian public deserves to hear both sides as the stakes here are very very high and also because IMO changing the definition of marriage from being one man and one woman is not in the best interest of our children or of our nation.
I am not happy at the way gay marriage was shoved down our political throats and I hope the Liberals live to regret the way they changed their election promises (again) when one judge ruled Canadians must now abandon our traditions.
I also think there are a lot of Canadians who do not like being mocked and I am a little surprised that the left does not see this.
I hope PM Harper can deliver for Conservatives one more time and protect marriage between one man and one woman. I am pretty sure it will not be easy.
Johnny Cash said,
And I heard, as it were, the noise of thunder: One of the four beasts saying: “Come and see.” And I saw. And behold, a white horse.
There’s a man goin’ ’round takin’ names. An’ he decides who to free and who to blame. Everybody won’t be treated all the same. There’ll be a golden ladder reaching down. When the man comes around.
The hairs on your arm will stand up. At the terror in each sip and in each sup. For you partake of that last offered cup, Or disappear into the potter’s ground. When the man comes around.
Hear the trumpets, hear the pipers. One hundred million angels singin’. Multitudes are marching to the big kettle drum. Voices callin’, voices cryin’. Some are born an’ some are dyin’. It’s Alpha’s and Omega’s Kingdom come.
And the whirlwind is in the thorn tree. The virgins are all trimming their wicks. The whirlwind is in the thorn tree. It’s hard for thee to kick against the pricks.
Till Armageddon, no Shalam, no Shalom. Then the father hen will call his chickens home. The wise men will bow down before the throne. And at his feet they’ll cast their golden crown. When the man comes around.
Whoever is unjust, let him be unjust still. Whoever is righteous, let him be righteous still. Whoever is filthy, let him be filthy still. Listen to the words long written down, When the man comes around.
Hear the trumpets,…
And the whirlwind is in the thorn tree…
In measured hundredweight and penny pound. When the man comes around.
And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts, And I looked and behold: a pale horse. And his name, that sat on him, was Death. And Hell followed with him.
I very much doubt that it was one million people! There’s no way that that one street and its sidewalks could handle that many people. So, it’s more likely 100,000.
As for dawg’s assertion about polls showing support for gay marriage, a poll is meaningless unless one knows the questions that were asked, and the randomness and size of the sample.
I recall one survey done a few years back that was given massive publicity. It stated that 80% of women were ‘date raped’ on Canadian campuses. Then, someone got a copy of the questionnaires, which were NOT made public by the researchers. When we saw the questions, we knew it was a bogus survey. So, be careful about surveys and polls.
Except ET, the polls are all relatively consistent and show that support for equal marriage is ABOUT half the population. Very few polls have shown support to be much higher and only one or two polls have shown it to be much lower. Dawg was responding to the ridiculous proposition of General Lee that poll after poll shows a majority don’t support equal marriage which, at the very best is highly misleading. Wikipedia has tabulated the polls and concludes:
“Public opinion polls in Canada have found more times than not, that the majority of Canadians back full marriage rights for same-sex couples. This can be seen as far back as 1996 when an Angus-Reid/Southam News poll reached the conclusion that 49% of Canadians favoured same-sex marriage, while 47% were opposed. In May of 1999, a Globe&Mail/CTV/Angus-Reid poll had public support at 53% for gay marriage, and 44% opposed.
Although these numbers have fluctuated, very few polls on the issue show oppostition to same-sex marriage receiving more support than the extension of marriage to same-sex couples.”
Take a look at any aerial shot of the pride parade and tell me that there is only 100,000!! It runs along three streets by the way and there is most definitely more there than the average college football game!
And concrete: interesting how all these conservatives, after 1000s of hours of committee hearings, debates in Parliament, interviews with MPs, etc. want still MORE debate on this issue that will harm NO ONE and cost NOTHING and yet are completely happy with a no prior notice 6 hour debate on committing untold billions on an undefined military mission in a hostile foreign land. Not that I opposed the motion – just the partisan tactic – but the hypocrisy of the statement just compelled me to jump briefly off topic.
Ted
New Kid on The Block, quite the quote from Johnny Cash although the references to the four beasts is the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse from the Book of Revelations in the Bible. Mr Cash was also a great gospel singer. (I am a great Eastwood fan, i.e. Pale rider)
Although I don’t think Gay Pride parades signal the end, I do think that the agenda that “progressives” are pushing is inherently wrong in that you either have to be with them or against them and that is wrong. As I said before, legaly gays are getting all the perks of marriage as far as pensions, benefits and such so leave the definition of marriage alone. Call it something else.
I can be nailed to a cross if I make a disparaging remark about homosexuality but being heterosexual and believing in such seems to be fair game for criticism. In my opinion, anyway.
And dangling willies at kids or anyone in public is just plain wrong.
texas canuck: “When the Man Comes Around” is a song by Johnny Cash, and was on the last CD he made. You can listen to it by doing a search of lyrics for When the Man Comes Around.
‘Not too many singers who could get a song like that included in a general release CD, but the guy was/is incredible. “The man in black,” mourning, I believe he said, the state of things in the world today. His reference to the four beasts and the pale horse is, indeed, from Revelation.
Zog: So many more predators are Heterosexual than homosexuals, that its usually considered a given that most child predators are heterosexual… but, I’m not sure whether anyone has looked at it in terms of percentages, or rates, out of the total homosexual populations.
As far as abusers targeting either family or institutions like schools, there is no evidence that any particular location is prefered. Predators hunt constantly and they score where they feel the least at risk. That could be school, family, or the grocery store. In the end, your little girl has a much higher chance of becoming a victim than your little boy… but like you suggest, that may just be because there are so few homosexual males to start with.
David Brown an obvious gay troll
The top tourist attraction in the whole country is the gay parade week in Toronto, that say,s it all.The country is going to hell because we give this much power to small group of people
Lets have a national referrendum on “gay marriage” so that Canadians can decide on the outcome, that would truely be a representation of the “will of the Canadian people”.
As an aside, whats wrong will calling it “civil union” (for man/woman, man/man, woman/woman unions) which would be the way the government handles the legality of the union, and leave it up to the churches (a non-government entity) if they want to “marry” [insert sexual preference here] or not? Should this not satisfy all parties involved if the one party wants the meaning of the word “marriage” protected and the other party simply wants a recognizable union in the eyes of the law/society? Correct me if I’m wrong but is this not how “progressive societies” such as Sweden are doing things?
Canforce101….It is my opinion that gay activists are demanding their unions be called marriages because normalizing homosexuality in our society is their eventual goal!
Sadly,as they demand respect for their lifestyle from all Canadians,they show little in return to those who wish them happy lives together but want the traditional definition of marriage protected.It seems a fair compromise to many,even some gays,as they achieve ALL the rights and benefits of a married couple.Yet,they INSIST it be called marriage!…This ONE WORD is powerful enough to soon bring to bear the will of our parliament,and has the attention of a nation.
Sorry,the previous post was mine.Was having some fun on the previous’lonely’thread and missed the change…
Ted: “And p.s., please stop trying to force us into thinking about you in your skivvies, especially with all of your talk about hardcore and trying to turn people on. Kate runs a classier joint than that.”
Yeah, but in the sidebar she talks about blogging naked while eating cherry ice cream, so… what’s wrong with me blogging in my skivvies, drinking coffee?
Funny… for someone who thinks that those Foolish-Naked-and-Bumless-Chaps-Wearing-Clowns’ parades are the cat’s pajamas, you’re inexplicably offended at the sight of a gone-soft hardcore bodybuilder in his gitchies sitting at a computer…
I don’t get you, man. You’re so inconsistent. It’s ok for those very-special folks to walk around either naked or in outrageous getups without bum coverage and whatnot, but not straight folks like me and Kate here…
*Sigh*… Librano$$$, eh 😉
Just back in the UK after a week in the homeland.
In honour of “Pride Day” or whatever it calls itself, I made a point of leaving Toronto to spend a relaxing, gag-free day at Niagara-on-the-Lake.
I paid my respects to Sir Isaac at Queenston Heights then settled in to a delightful lunch with family at the Peller Estates Winery.
At no time did we even broach the subject of “Gay Pride” – a complete non-issue of epic proportions (and thus ideal for intellectualizing navel-gazers and the blithering twits at rabble.ca).
Now back to the real world…
Ted, I believe that it should be allowable to have a “Family Pride Day” that is exclusively heterosexual, but invites gay folks to attend and show their support. Those who oppose the sanctity of traditional marriage and the traditional family don’t have to be there, but they won’t be “excluded”. Otherwise, it wouldn’t be a celebration of this very special and beneficial-to-society type of union/family.
There’d be no discrimination, as everyone’d be welcome to attend. It’d just be ABOUT something specific, the traditional marriage/family form. Nothing wrong with that.
Besides, the gay parades are specifically about the GLBT (and whatever) thing, not about heterosexuals. Yes, they were welcome to attend, but it was about the gayfolk, exclusively.
Therefore, it was absolutely wrong to forbid a straight-oriented parade just ’cause the gays find it offensive ’cause they wouldn’t be able to hijack it and make it about them.
Let’s have a straights’ parade. Invite everyone. But make it about straights, please, as it is our right! Yes, our RIGHT! We’re special and deserve a special parade, just like the gays get! Give us equality!
Gays have their special parades, ABOUT them and not straights. Therefore to say we cannot have special parades ABOUT just straights is discrimination and is evidence of the radical, oppressive agenda of the left and the gay political powers…
Ok, call me nuts. I don’t care. I just want to be treated equally and have my equal rights!!!!!
Jeez! How come the Free World has become so obsessed with sex, particularly the less-common forms of, um, ah, “expression”?
I could swear that there are issues far, far more critically important than constantly reminding people of what they already know: that there are guys who like guys, girls who like girls, guys who are girls, girls who are guys and on and on…
Why can’t we all focus on critical issues like national security, the threats posed by the Axis Power Group, health care, the economy of the Atlantic Region of Canada, etc.?
Much of the Free World’s priorities are out of order.
ET flounders through the fog yet again. My references to polls were to counter the assertion that polls allegedly show Canadians to be opposed to gat marriage. My second reference actually contains many of the polling questions in numerous polls on the subject.
Instead, with the pomposity that is becoming this poseur’s trademark, he lectures me about poll questions and how misleading polls can be. Go tell that to “Gen. Lee Right,” who brought the poll issue up in the first place, falsely claiming that “poll after poll” shows a majority of Canadians are opposed to SSM. They do not.
Rico said, “David Brown an obvious gay troll.”
‘could be some truth in that. His posts about kids and schools have a bottled quality to them, lacking in authenticity…hmmmm…