Freedom From Responsibility

(moved to top for Rawlco radio listeners – scroll down for new entries)
Via reader Michael Stuber;
capitalistpiglet.jpg
An offering by the University of Saskatchewan publication, the Sheaf, which chose not to publish the Jyllands-Posten cartoons out of respect for Islam.
Read this too, from former Sheaf news editor Jeremy Warren.
Related – Too many Christians, not enough lions? (link fixed)
Lost Budgie weighs in.
Update – from the comments, University of Saskatchewan President Peter MacKinnon has reportedly issued the following by email;

I feel I must publicly communicate with our campus community on what I have just seen in the student newspaper.
In the February 23 edition of the Sheaf, the editors explained that they would not publish the controversial cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad. It is surprising that they did not exercise similar restraint in their decision to publish ‘Capitalist Piglet’ in the March 2 issue of the paper. This is a cartoon that is certain to cause distress to members of our community. It has divisive shock value only and does nothing to advance the understanding or debate for which universities should be distinguished.
The Sheaf should apologize to us all.
Peter MacKinnon
President

Monday March 6 update: The cartoonist “Y!th” responds in the comments – after a fashion. Just keep scrolling
The heat is on now – Rawlco radio news is reporting the story, as is the local CTV affiliate. The story out of the Sheaf is that the publication of this cartoon was an error – a breakdown in the editorial review process, or something to that effect – and that an apology will be forthcoming in the next issue. (One is already up at their website). The managing editor Will Robbins,has tendered his resignation, but so far, hasn’t spoken publicly.
I’ll tell you why I’m not buying this – the Sheaf was out for days before the explanation and apology were offered. Editorial mis-step? Does the staff not read their own paper after publication? A true error would have been proactively addressed and an apology/retraction issued immediately. It would have also been yanked from the website.
Not until the cartoon was featured here, and the media began to pick up on the story did anyone see fit to respond.
A new blog, Boycott the Sheaf has awarded the “ULTIMATE HYPOCRITICAL
ADVERTISING AWARD” to McNally Robinson Booksellers, who pulled the Western Standard magazine from the shelves because they contained the Jyllands-Posten cartoons in the context of a news story.
Mar.7 Update
Saskatoon Star Phoenix has now picked up the story.

565 Replies to “Freedom From Responsibility”

  1. Dan, “I think the editor is probably pointing out the double standard we have in our society.”
    Sorry I think your giving the editor of Sheaf to much credit. Typical of most student papers, they believe that gutless shock value is progressive/cutting edge.
    Being an athiest I don’t care what religion they insult.
    What does bother me is blatant hypocracy.

  2. to the editors of “the Sheaf”
    To Muslims Jesus is a prophet. Thus you have insulted Muslims with your cartoon! Please apologise immediately.
    By the way to avoid offending Muslims you must separate the sexes at your paper, and all women must be completely covered from head to toe. Failure to do so is an isult to Islam!

  3. As an alumnus of the U of S I regularily get a request for a donation.
    I can harldy wait until the next request.
    Can you say “piss off”
    Horny Toad

  4. Dan, Kate has a link to the former editor of ‘The Sheath’s’ resignation letter…worth reading in its entirety.
    He resigned because the Muhammed cartoons were *NOT* published in their paper.
    Christianity has been fair game to mock; he expected Islam to get used to the idea of being mocked as well.
    But, in the end, his higher-ups succumbed to the fear of backlash and tensions with the admin of the university….
    Another double standard, but not owned by those who dislike having Christianity alone trashed, otherwise the university and paper bosses would have put their foot down earlier.
    Mocking Christianity will nicely take up the slack of leaving Muhammed alone I suppose, with what we have in this cartoon.
    I go back to asking if the businesses, who support the paper, know what attention their advertising has bought them?
    Christians are used to this kind of smear.
    They can though, make a point by refusing to partake in any product associated with this paper.
    ~~~~~
    In this paper’s former editor’s words:
    http://waywardreporter.blogspot.com/2006/02/we-now-return-to-regularly-scheduled.html#links
    “…The chill effect is alive and well even here in Saskatoon. We have decided to not publish The Cartoons because of fear of offending people and the backlash that might be thrust upon the Sheaf. The point was made that we have taken shots at jesus and christianity many times in the Sheaf with the justification that we live in secular society and satarization, indeed even mocking, of religion is accepted in Canada. Unless we�re dealing with Islam–then it�s blasphemous to certain people and we can�t offend them.”

  5. Totally revolting to anyone with any class, but especially Christians. I can see in the years to come a mjor clash between Islam and Christianity,
    kind of ironic since U of S blows anyway. 🙂
    Thanks Kate forkeeping us up to date.
    Burke
    Calgary

  6. Dan:
    “How dare they offend Christians and not muslims?”
    Good question, Dan. Care to ask that one to MSM? Don’t expect any more than a strong putrid wind back as an answer. If you really want the answer, look at some of Theo Van Gogh’s crime scene pics. Islam’s sword bled Theo like a slaughtered pig for daring to offend.
    Christians are a far more convenient target since they have little basic things like the Ten Commandments and the Golden Rule that can’t be interpreted as “liberally” as the Q’uran’s intolerant text. Heck, an Iranian Imam has even justified using nukes to accomplish holy jihad!!!
    If, Danny boy, you believe that christians have received fair and equal treatment of their beliefs over the years in “The Sheaf” compared to Islam then you’ve got “BLIND BIGOT” tatooed on your forehead and little grey matter behind it.

  7. Peter MacKinnon’s attempt at damage control:
    (in an email sent to all members of the University of Saskatchewan community)
    “I feel I must publicly communicate with our campus community on what I have just seen in the student newspaper.
    In the February 23 edition of the Sheaf, the editors explained that they would not publish the controversial cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad. It is surprising that they did not exercise similar restraint in their decision to publish ‘Capitalist Piglet’ in the March 2 issue of the paper. This is a cartoon that is certain to cause distress to members of our community. It has divisive shock value only and does nothing to advance the understanding or debate for which universities should be distinguished.
    The Sheaf should apologize to us all.
    Peter MacKinnon
    President ”

  8. Thank you Kate for helping to bring this to our attention
    Thank you Mr. MacKinnon for a good first step
    Editors and staff at the Sheaf…it is in your court now.

  9. Well I suppose if Christians adopted some extremist methodology we would have the offending cartoonist flogged with a cat of nine tails suitably ripping their flesh to look like the butcher block after a days work.
    Next we would load him up with some suitable softwood timber, march him through the town square for bouts of derision and manadatory throwing of rotten kitchen droppings, asorted pebbles and stones.
    The cartoonists hands will get special treatment; namely some rather oversize spikes driven mercilessly with bone crushing efficiency through the wrist. This should help the cartoonist in their freedom of expression.
    For attempting to kick the Christians asses your feet also get a bone crushing spike through them to improve your freedom of walking.
    We then hoist your dumb ass on a piece of timber; and gaze on you as you have searing pain from your feet rises to your cerebral cortex, due to the fact that if you don’t push up every now and then you won’t be able to breath. This should improve the cartoonists ability of freedom of thought, belief opinion and expression.
    And for mercy we will have your legs broken at the end, like the two thieves, to make sure you are sent off to the hereafter suitably chastened by the experience.
    If this is not vivid enough the cartoonist can have a free pass to Mel Gibson’s “Passion of the Christ.”
    Alternately, lets impose some ancient English common law and do a William Wallace on him a la “Braveheart”. How about hung, drawn, quartered and his head hoisted on petard in front of the town gate?
    We would like to thank the cartoonists for this delightful exercise in verbal image butchery.
    Perhaps, the cartoonist should get on his knees and thank God he is free to be an asshole. Further, he should keep praying, that I don’t lose my faith, in which case I will become the the meanest son of a bitch this side of the valley of death.
    Reminds me of a bumper sticker on a plumbers van which nearly caused me to drive off the road in laughter:
    “Jesus is coming and boy is HE pissed off.”
    Oh hang it all, its Lent and we’re supposed to repent and forgive others as they have trespassed against us.

  10. Peter McKinnon:
    “The Sheaf should apologize to us all.”
    Right Peter…”The Sheaf” should apologize to the Buddists, Hindu’s, Scientologists, Atheists, Wickens, etc. because everyone was supposed to be offended enough to deserve one. Good PC call Peter.
    How about re-writing what I presume is your first draft with “the most heartfelt sincere apology should be given to Christians first”. You could even add a statement or two on the direction where “The Sheaf” should go to improve journalistic quality and the responsibility the current publishing staff should take (like falling on their own swords).
    Peter…for the University’s sake I really hope it was your first draft posted with these comments. If that was your proper response to the Brokeback Christ Toon, it misses the point. Fix the paper.

  11. Jose,
    “Well at least it’s funnier than the Danish cartoons.”
    ??????????????????????????????????????????
    Maranatha

  12. Hardly surprising considering that Christianity and anything remotely “white male” have been fair game on campus for about twenty years. Most campuses are hotbeds of communist-sympathizing, ultra-politically correct, anti-capitalist and anti-American extremism. And I’m not just talking about the professors.

  13. There’ve been a couple of comments that this cartoon will probably have offended Muslims, who regard Jesus as a prophet. Some time ago when the stage play Corpus Christi, the story of a gay Jesus and his gay disciples, was running in London, the Shari’ah Court of the UK issued a death fatwa against the playwright Terrence McNally:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/493436.stm
    In contrast, here’s a reaction to Corpus Christi by a Christian reviewer (note that it includes no threats of physical violence):
    http://www.firstthings.com/ftissues/ft9812/opinion/nuechterlein.html

  14. Clash of Whats? (Exposing Islam)
    RealClearPolitics.com ^ | 3/4/2006 | David Warren
    Posted on 03/04/2006 6:25:31 AM PST by Dark Skies
    Sometimes I am brought up short by the clarity and courage with which someone else — with more to lose than I have — states a truth. I am a Catholic Christian, who often dismisses �secular humanists�. But I�m in awe of people like Canada�s Irshad Manji, the �Muslim refusenik�, who had the courage in her book The Trouble with Islam to directly confront the horrors done in Allah�s name — in, as she put it, �Pick a country, any Muslim country.�
    Another is Wafa Sultan, an Arab woman practising psychology, now living in the States. A self-professed �disbeliever in the supernatural�, she has posted essays on the Internet in Arabic, including research into the fate of women under various Islamic regimes. She has willingly and ably confronted Muslim fanatics on Arab TV, most recently on Feb. 21st, when she debated Dr Ibrahim Al-Khouli on Al-Jazeera. A transcript and video clips with English subtitles were made available this week by the Middle East Media Research Institute (�Memri�) — an indispensable institution, based in Israel, that distributes hard information and accurate translations of documents from the Arab world. (It is useless to condemn it as �Zionist� — everything Memri publishes is sourced and checkable.)
    With great bravery, Dr Sultan confronts the �tu quoque� (�you too�) arguments of the apologists for Islamic terror — refusing to let them change the subject from what they have done, said, and approved, to misty rhetoric against Zionists, Yankees, Imperialists, Crusaders. Boldly on Al-Jazeera, last week, she said what our Western politicians, media flaks, and academic celebrities won�t say, from cowardice in its many forms. Excerpt:
    �The clash we are witnessing around the world is not a clash of religions, or a clash of civilizations. … It is a clash between civilization and backwardness, between the civilized and the primitive, between barbarity and rationality. It is a clash between freedom and oppression, between democracy and dictatorship. It is a clash between human rights, on the one hand, and the violation of these rights, on the other. It is a clash between those who treat women like beasts, and those who treat them like human beings. What we see today is not a clash of civilizations. Civilizations do not clash, but compete.�
    The sparkling TV host interrupts to ask if Dr Sultan insinuates the clash is, �between the culture of the West, and the backwardness and ignorance of the Muslims�. Dr Sultan replies, �Yes, that is what I mean.� +
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1589887/posts

  15. Poking a little fun at various gods here and there is OK.
    The Sheaf failed in presenting a cartoon that is both not funny and a graphic disgrace.
    Waste of time when it has no humour. TG

  16. This cartoon is a particularly egragious example of what Plato predicted about democracies 2400 years ago:
    (See Republic 562b – 563e)
    ———–
    (Socrates:) “And does greediness for what democracy defines as good also dissolve it?”
    (Adeimantus:) “What do you say it defines that good to be?”
    (S:) “Freedom,” I said. “For surely in a city under a democracy you would that this is the finest thing it has, and that for this reason it is the only regime worth living in for anyone who is by nature free.”
    (A:) “Yes indeed,” he said, “that’s an often repeated phrase.”
    “Then,” I said, “as I was going to say just now, does the insatiable desire of this and the neglect of the rest change this regime and prepare a need for tyranny? [Islam?]”
    “How?” he said.
    “I suppose that when a democratic city, once it’s thirsted for freedom, gets bad winebearers as its leaders and gets more drunk than it should on this unmixed draught, then, unless the rulers are very gentle and provide a great deal of freedom [Liberals?], it punishes them, charging them with being polluted and oligarchs [capitalist pigs].”
    “Yes,” he said, “that’s what they do.”
    “And it spatters with mud those who are obedient [esp. hardworking Christians], alleging that they are willing slave of the rulers and nothings,” I said, “while it praises and honors – both in private and in public – the rulers who are like the ruled and the ruled who are like the rulers [communists]. Isn’t it necessary in such a city that freedom spread to everything?”
    “How could it be otherwise?”
    “And, my friend,” I said, “for it to filter down to the private houses and end up by anarchy’s being planted inthe very beasts?”
    “How do we mean that?” he said.
    “That a father,” I said, “habituates himself to be like his child and fear his sons, and a son habituates himself to be like his father and to have no shame before or fear of his parents – that’s so he may be free; and metic is on an equal level with townsman and townsman with metic, and similarly with the foreigner [including the terrorist?].
    “Yes,” he said, “that’s what happens.”
    “These and other small things of the following kind come to pass,” I said, “As the teacher [professor] in such a situation is frightened of the pupils and fawns on them, so the students make light of their teachers, as well as of their attendants. And, generally, the young copy their elders and compete with them in speeches and deeds while the old come down to the level of the young; imitating the young, they are overflowing with facility and charm, and that’s so they won’t seem to be unpleasant and despotic.”
    …
    “Then summing up all of these things together,” I said, “do you notice how tender they make the citizens’ soul, so that if someone proposes anything that smacks in the way of slavery, they are irrated and can’t stand it? And they end up, as you well know, by paying no attention to the laws, written or unwritten, in order that they may avoid having any master at all.”
    “Of course, I know it,” he said.
    “Well, then, my friend, ” I said, “this is the beginning, so fair and heady, from which tyranny in my opinion naturally grows.”
    ———-
    I would certainly encourage all to read the entire Republic to understand themselves and our age better, but failing that, books 8 and 9 are well worth the read on their own.

  17. When I saw the “cartoon” I realized I was looking at child pornography. It is a piglet… a baby pig.

  18. Certainly no Biblically literate Christian would republish such crap.
    It’s akin to being a hypocrite in the hopes of stamping out hypocrisy.
    Romans 3:8, “And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say) Let us do evil, that good may come?…”

  19. Something noteworthy for folks who donate, with good intention, to organizations such as the ‘Organic Center of Canada’- cushioned already, I might add, by the federal and many provincial government departments.
    The Organic Center then donate their funds to subsidize ‘The Sheath’.
    They even have a PayPal donation button for our convenience;)
    Do they announce they will be forwarding your generous donation for yet another use, like subsidizing ‘The Sheath’ and this “Capitalist Piglet” cartoon?
    Not where I could easily find it.
    Now, is that Kosher, too?
    http://www.oacc.info/FriendsAndPartners/of_donations.html
    “Your $25 gift will be put to work funding much-needed research and education.You will be provided with a tax receipt.”
    ~~~~
    I hope the other contributing businesses will get a heads up today about how their money is being used.

  20. Sorry, Ol Hoss, but the prosecutor must present the evidence. If you want to see no evil, go be a hermit in the desert (or in the bush!).

  21. even though this punk really needs some speed bumps on his confused nihilist skull, is it really fair to beat up on an intellect that sill uses 60s slamg like “grove’?
    Pathetic more than anything….The Wheatfield people’s revolutionaries” striking a blow for …uh what exactly is it we hate..oh ya anything our parents like….these kids should have their own comedy show …slot it next to the trailer park boys…same audience who enjoy watching losers.

  22. Sorry, Ol Hoss, but the prosecutor must present the evidence.
    The evidence is in the original, not a duplication.
    Would one duplicate hypocrisy to prove hypocrisy in others?

  23. To eliminate any equivilancy arguements – that this is no different than the Cartoons printed first by the Danish- I propose the following. Run this EXACT cartoon again with the exception that we use the prophet Mohammed giving the blow job. Then we would have a terrific example of true equivilancy, and we could compare the responses of both Christians and Islamists after being exsposed to the same data.

  24. The Taliban [Students sect] and Jihad in general use divisive maneuvers from time to time, [ now it is the cartoon], in order to force persons to decide to step aside or commit to Jihad with new and stronger resolve.
    It’s called, *Breathing new life into the cause*.
    The supply of cartoons at Muhammad*s expense feeds the current cause.
    Their whole game is mind control, similar to Dr. Moon, Hare Krishna, and cult leaders like those of Waco and Jonestown.
    Children have been programmed by rote and now as teenagers they are given AK47s to do the bidding of Emirs and Mullahs.
    How many of these rote trained kids have any concept of freedom, much less democracy?
    They do know how to use Ak47s and RPGs however.
    The most basic of flyers should be available in the streets.
    [ Jihad.] Everyone below the leaders are slaves. This is rule by rifle.
    [ Democracy.] Everyone shares the wealth with a car and a house and the people are not slaves. Rifles and weapons are not required.
    Keep it simple. TG

  25. I don’t think that the Sheaf should get away with printing this garbage: if not for this website, I would not have been aware of it, even though I contribute to the U of S.
    BTW, I am redirecting my annual suport to St Thomas Moore College, which is the Catholic College located on the U of S campus. Rather then abandoning the U, I would suggest that others do the same!

  26. Ward – EXACTLY, but will any paper have the guts to do it?? Side by side even?

  27. Worked at the U of Windsor for quite a few years. Read their rag and it was mostly about sex, parties and of course the gays on campus. What I thought at that time, was most profs become profs because they can’t make it in the outside world. I became convinced of my theory when a young male nephew with the personality of a dead mackeral graduated with a computer science degree and began his search for a job. Being unsuccessful he returned to school and got his masters. He now is working on his PHD. As I said, he could not make it on the outside so is planning on cloaking himself in the ivory tower where he feels safe. Most of us who have had the priviledge of higher learning leave as leftist but once in the real world we make an abrupt turn right. Those Profs have experienced nothing else.

  28. Not sure if there are any other U of S students reading this, but I think that it would be fair to ask for our $6.10 back that we pay each year in Sheaf fees. Six dollars and ten cents times approximately 20000 students works out to a lot of cash. Also, $6.10 buys me a couple Tim’s to get me through my week. Anyone know who collects that fee?

  29. Does anyone know who “Marg & Y.PH?” are? Presumably students at U of S. Earth sciences maybe?
    Regardless, it’s nice to see such unfettered expressions get wider distribution. If more of these sorts of Leftist commentaries would be brought to the public’s attention, perhaps more young people will stop taking at face-value the Left’s noble sounding sentiments, and begin to better understand just how base the left’s underlying instincts are, and how septic the results of their crude and un-self-aware motivations.
    Standing on the suffering of others — the poor, historic victims of racism, aboriginals — in order to feel big is an inherently sick thing to do, yet the left floats such actions as evidence of moral superiority. Hopefully more people will start to see the dimmed-lids, knowing sneer of the collective Left for what it is. The inane and hateful “Capitalist Piglet” is just one tiny refresher course.
    BTW Ward, 12:04 demolishes any equivalency arguments.

  30. I can’t wait to hear how the editors of The Sheaf will defend themselves.
    How many people bet it will be the good old “Sorry, it just slipped through the cracks” line?

  31. HA HA … The Sheaf should apologies, but the reaction by deity praising nutballs is priceless. Keep up the good work Sheaf

  32. Ward said: “I propose the following. Run this EXACT cartoon again with the exception that we use the prophet Mohammed giving the blow job. Then we would have a terrific example…”
    I like the idea, yeah, but I don’t need to see that to know the differences between the two approaches. Everything Islamists have done over the past short period of time has given me all the evidence I need. Printing the cartoons as you suggest is really just piling on.
    it really would drive a few people (and not just ISlamists) batty, wouldn’t it?
    Still …

  33. The Sheaf should apologies, but the reaction by deity praising nutballs is priceless. Keep up the good work Sheaf
    It certainly doesn’t bother me what the ignorant do. It’s expected that the ignorant will be ignorant.
    What would be surprising is if they weren’t.
    No doubt there will be some whining when the consequences are felt.

  34. HA HA … The Sheaf should apologies, but the reaction by deity praising nutballs is priceless. Keep up the good work Sheaf
    Ignorant men heaped insults upon Jesus, the Son of God, so it is no surprise that ignorant men should do the same to his followers today
    When the end comes…and it won’t be long now, we shall see who is laughing then.
    2Pet 3:3-14
    Maranatha
    (a deity praising nutball)

  35. Michael Stuber:
    “Not sure if there are any other U of S students reading this, but I think that it would be fair to ask for our $6.10 back that we pay each year in Sheaf fees. Six dollars and ten cents times approximately 20000 students works out to a lot of cash. Also, $6.10 buys me a couple Tim’s to get me through my week. Anyone know who collects that fee?”
    I was thinking the exact same thing and would love to find out how to get the sheaf fee back. I was thinking of paying all of my tuition except for $6.10 from now on for the last three years of my studies. I’m not sure how to find out how to specifically not pay the sheaf fee though.
    The sheaf is a piece of garbage. I have gone to the U of S for 6 years now and haven’t read it since first year. They have crossed the line this time though. Pure trash meant to offend and nothing else.

  36. Stewe Art (aka Ha Ha guy), if you enjoy offending religious people so much, may I suggest that you go to Iran or Saudi Arabia to do so, I guarantee that you’ll get a reaction.

  37. Cartoon controviersies from across the border

    … in Canada. Via Lost Budgie:
    The University of Saskatchewan publication The Sheaf chose not to publish the famous Mohammed cartoons “out of respect for Islam.”
    They seem to have no problem at all though, publishing a cartoon of…

  38. Allen, re: “you people are asswipes, sorry kate, can i say that?”
    Uhh, careful Allen. I would refrain from impugning the reputation of the Sheaf editors by associating them with anything useful and puposeful. :))

  39. Standfast, Prime Minister Harper. Stand with our ally & friend: the USA. The appeasers/pacifists/socialists are baying/howling at the moon. +
    Mr. Standfast – PART I CHAPTER ONE
    Mr. Standfast. by John Buchan … You will receive letters and messages some day and the style of our friends is apt to be reminiscent of John Bunyan . …
    http://www.worldwideschool.org/library/books/lit/adventure/MrStandfast/Chap1.html – 48k – +
    Canada almost alone in supporting Guantanamo
    Globe and Mail ^ | March 4, 2006 | PAUL KORING
    Posted on 03/04/2006 2:48:58 PM PST by proud_yank
    Major Western allies push for closing U.S. gulag after damning UN report
    PAUL KORING
    From Saturday’s Globe and Mail
    UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan says close it. So does Louise Arbour, a former Canadian Supreme Court judge who heads the UN Human Rights Commission. The Bush administration’s policy of holding detainees in secret and offshore prisons and shipping them to third countries has “an acutely corrosive effect on the global ban on torture and cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment,” she said.
    In Ottawa, Foreign Affairs spokeswoman Marie-Christine Lilkoff said the government understands the need for Guantanamo. “Canada is sensitive to the need to ensure that persons who are a danger to international peace and security not be provided with the opportunity to resume a direct part in hostilities or re-engage in terrorist activity,” she said in a written response to questions.
    The government declined to provide a direct answer as to whether it wants the camp closed.
    International human-rights organizations and international notables such South African Archbishop Desmond Tutu, who called the camp a “stain” on U.S. democracy, have said Guantanamo must be closed.
    But neither the new Conservative government in Ottawa nor its previous Liberal governments seem troubled by the sprawling detainee camps at the U.S. naval base in Cuba.
    Not only has there been no Canadian demand for it to close, but Canada’s special-forces units in Afghanistan continue to hand terrorism suspects over to U.S. forces who ship at least some of them to Guantanamo.
    “Canada’s silence on Guantanamo is related to the fact that we are complicit in the whole process” of seizing and holding suspects “in a twilight zone,” NDP defence spokesman Bill Blaikie said yesterday. “This is typical of the way both the Liberals and Conservatives have handled the whole issue of Guantanamo,” instead of joining with other governments and calling for its closing, he added in an interview from Winnipeg. +
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1590100/posts

  40. New Policy Announcement From the United States Defence Department: March 4 2006
    Guantanamo will be closed by April 1 2006
    All Terrorist suspects will be enrolled at the University of Saskatchewan.
    Enjoy them comrades!

  41. thanks maz2, it’s been a while since i was proud of our government. if they continue to hold fast.
    joe canuck, you’re right, they should be using the toronto star for that.

  42. “The Sheaf should apologize to us all.
    Peter MacKinnon
    President
    University of Saskatchewan”
    Apologize for what, Mr. MacKinnon? Cowardness? Favouring Muslims over Christians? Printing the Jesus cartoon. Not Printing the Muslim Cartoon?
    You, Mr. MacKinnon – do nothing with your statement except issue more pablum.
    The genie is out of the lamp. We want a full and truthful debate, and your position is to hide the truth.
    Nope. Your cowardly “now children” email avoids the real issues entirely

  43. mark….
    nice spin, you should have no problem getting a job with the MSM of this country. very noble of you to try to defend your friend also. whats his problem ? is unable to defend his own actions ?

  44. So what can we read into a cartoon about Jesus, Capitalist Piglet, and oral sex? Well, clearly there is the base, tasteless joke. But
    even this portion has a couple of levels of interplay, once we get past the shock factor: first, we have direct reference to the fact that Capitalist Piglet is indeed a pig, despite his radical anthropomorphism, and is apparently thus non-kosher. There is seldom acknowledgment of such a cartoon character’s actual species (see
    Donald Duck, et al) so this is sort of a wink to the audience about the nature of the medium. Furthermore, there is the mentioning of
    the fact that Jesus is jewish, something that bears repeating and is often lost on various hate groups. As an aside, I feel I must take
    this joke to task on a somewhat different level — don’t the lessons of Jesus and the apostle Paul (Romans 4-6, I believe) remove the many
    of the restrictions within the first covenant and with them the rules of kosher living? So I’m not convinced that the joke entirely makes
    sense, but I suppose that is neither here nor there.

    Good God.
    Still trying to get my mind wrapped around your letter of defense?

  45. Mark Watson,
    Pleeeease! Do you honestly believe that crap you wrote! You really must spend a little more time in the real world.
    People are upset over your little rags hypocracy more than anything else. One week claiming to be sensitive to the feelings of muslims the next week sticking it to Christians for no good reason except that you can.
    BTW, I’m athiest & don’t care for any religion but have a much more intense dislike of leftist hypocracy than anything else.

  46. Mark…birds of a feather flock together. You’re saying you’re condoning this crap?
    Good Lord, give your head a shake, and I don’t mean the wigwag one…

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