While the politicians and media lose their collective minds over the next 24 hours, I plan to back off and go into lighter fare today (unless something really spectacular happens). Frankly, my suspicion is that most average voters tuned the campaign out about 5 days ago, especially former Paul Martin supporters who have given up on him – once left to the pirahnas, they don’t have the stomach to stand around and watch the water churn. They don’t take pleasure in it.
So, for a pre-post mortem I offer the content of an email I received a couple of days ago;
1. A strong contingent of committed federalists in the Liberal Party have made the strategic decision to undertake actions that will support the Conservative Party because it is the lesser of two evils; the Bloc being the greater evil of course. This decision was made prior to the election. Why? The Liberal Party will be blamed for the break up of Canada if Quebec separates. This group of Liberal federalists would rather support another federalist party, the Conservatives, in absence of credible Liberal candidates. This situation is playing out at the riding level with a “take a Liberal lawn sign, but vote Conservative” whisper campaign.
2. The Liberal Party believes that some of their core voters will vote Conservative this election, but will return to the fold and vote Liberal in the future. However, the Liberal Party fears that some of their core voters will vote NDP this election and NOT return to vote Liberal in the future. This again explains the overt support for the Conservatives.
3. Frank McKenna is definitely in the race to replace Martin. McKenna’s team of operatives is strongly ‘encouraging’ no-hope Liberal candidates to stop their election spending. Why? The Liberal party is insolvent (broke), thus will need all available funds to keep their creditors at bay. The group of federalist Liberals recognizes the fact the the Liberals need five years to financially rebuild their party and cannot afford another federal election within two years if a minority Conservative government falls.
4. Several recent Liberal campaign mistakes in fact are not mistakes. Rather, they were intentionally designed to enable the Conservatives to show their strengths and hammer the Liberals and the NDP. Buzz Hargorve’sinvolvement in the Liberal campaign is a shining example of this strategy. For the record Buzz bought into this shadowy strategy ‘hook, line and sinker’. Buzz has been royally hoodwinked. The litany of Liberal campaign blunders are a series of well timed events. Sorry Warren Kinsella, you are not as smart as you think you are!
5. Paul Martin is no longer in control of Liberal Party of Canada. A clear indication of this situation is the fact that Liberals no longer operate a national campaign. Some provincial campaigns and individual ridings (I do not know which ones) no longer accept direction from the national campaign team. In fact some campaigns have removed all Martin/Liberal references from their literature and signs because they are ashamed of the response from voters. Several BC Liberal candidates are intentionally sabotaging their campaigns because they do not want to sit in opposition; especially if the Conservatives win a majority.
That should keep you busy in the comments.
There was a rumour on Andrew Coyne that one of the Liberal Ridings that took Paul Martin�s name off the sign was Lasalle Emard.
here we are on the cusp of a massive victorie for Stephen Harper. Paul Martin has been pathetic and looks like a really tired loser.
It will be a good day for canada on monday time for a real change and good riddance to the crooks(liberanos) we really do deserve better.
cheers Bubba
#5. Martin is definitely not in control.
Case in point, the absurd Abortion Card, although I strongly believe Martin’s, “Gomery completely exhonerated the Liberal Party” deserves precedence.
What happens if, the day after the election, the Liberals and the New Democratic Party approach the GG with a coalition? Given Micha�lle Jean’s extreme left-wing orientation (i.e. supporting Quebec separatists), if the proposed Liberal-NDP coalition won more seats than the Tories, the GG could award the power of governing to PMPM.
This is a profoundly disturbing possibility discussed by Lona Manning at http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=5180
What about it?
not going to happen seattle
As an Albertan let me say one thing to #4 (and I apologize in advance) but F.U. Buddy! Similair response to #5 especially the last part.
“…I plan to back off and go into lighter fare today (unless something really spectacular happens)…”
I saw Paul Martin’s press conference in Brampton on CPAC, in which he went off the deep end, mocking Stephen Harper’s modest international travel experience.
A powerful Liberal elitist mocking and insulting a middle-class Canadian, and by extension, a vast majority of Canadians. It’s the perfect nail for driving into the Liberal coffin on the last day of the campaign.
I hope the Conservatives drop the hammer on this one on Sunday, to remind Canadians why we need a change.
When I saw the full press conference, I thought something “spectacular” had happened.
Tom Clark mentions it.
My Comments at StandSure.ca (apologies for shameless self-promotion)
4. Several recent Liberal campaign mistakes in fact are not mistakes. Rather, they were intentionally designed to enable the Conservatives to show their strengths and hammer the Liberals and the NDP.
Very clever piece of propaganda. It’s the usual socialist morphing into another role when their backs are to the wall.
Hopefully the Conservatives won’t fall for the creation of an agenda to save the poor socialists from themselves. There’s going to be lot’s of “poor me” whining.
In a way ,the e-mail is really saying.. you may have won,but we really control the power,and any power you think that you have is only granted to you by us…also implying it can be taken at any time..
we really need to kill the beast.
Many Toronto ridings have removed Harper’s name from publications as well. I think it is just a way of having the voters vote on the locals candidates, rather than focusing on the leaders and federal election freak-shows.
Right. Somewhere somebody is being oh so clever. And so you see it is all part of a plan and those who seem to be losing contain a group who are cleverly winning by losing. Whats’ an
electtion here or there or a few tens of millions. Who cares what laws are made or unmade in the next five years.
There are words to describe the author of this post, but I fear they are far to rude for mere print, and need to be said face to face. How about we enjoy the incredible fact that we are having an election without fear to go to the polls, this time.
Even ol’ Belinda has nary a mention of the Liberal party on her website.
http://www.belinda.ca
Can another defection be far behind? Bwahaha
Those whom the gods would destroy, they first make crazy. But madness is not losing your reason; it is when you’ve lost everything and still have your reason. “The fact is, fundamentally speaking, our values, let me be clear, are Canadian values…” It’s kind of like the NDP who stand for working families – the 20percent who ever vote for them, that is.
“The Liberal party will be blamed for the break up of Canada if Quebec separates”
-whoever sold you this line, Kate, is a little slow on the uptake if he’s just realizing this now (hence probably not the great strategist s/he makes to be). Historians of the future are sure to look back on the failed elitist and centralizing vision of Trudeau and the rejection of Mulroney’s Meech and Charlottetown – the doings of the Liberal party – as the fundamental causes of any future separation (though this election might save us yet…) But typical of a Liberal to cotton on when it’s too late. The owl of Minerva… (…that is if we have historians in the future…)
I would believe there are a series of disaffected liberals.
But this letter reminds me so much of the scene in Pee Wee Herman movie when he takes a spectactular fall off his bike, then gets up and says “I meant to do that”
It is hard to be as intentionally stupid as the Liberals have been.
If the Puppet Masters want to believe they did it then fine.
At no point did I say I “buy” any of this. Just thought it would give you kiddies something to chew on.
Belinda defect!!! Do you really think the NDP want her?
Thanks Kate. I sort of got that from the last line. As I read it, it seemed too much like fiction — someone wanting to rationalize how they ended up like this. Thanks for clarifying. btw, our local Liberal candidate (Patricia Whittacker(sp?)) had her campaign manager quite either last week or the week before saying he wasn’t getting any support from the party nationally, but that kind of makes sense in a riding they probably had little chance in winning. Perhaps not enough office buildings?
# 4 is a great catalyst for debate.
It would support a theory that the socialists/left/Librano$/Dippers will have to go into the wilderness for a decade like the PC�s and Reform/Alliance did. I hope this happens and that there emerges a two party left and right versus this pizza parliament we have now.
Also those that advocate the dropping of first- past- the- post would simply delay the painful process of Darwinian evolution that�s needed on the left. In other words it would simply keep the NDP alive for another decade, it has to be allowed to die or morph or be “Buzzed” into a blended left with the Liberals.
Whatever happens on the liberal left we can be sure it won�t be �intelligent design� � ;>)
Chretien and his strategists like Kinsella get a lot of credit for being very clever and winning 3 majorities in a row. The reality is they only ever got between 38 an 41% of the popular vote against a divided opposition of Reform and PC.
Paul Martin is the first Liberal to face a united opposition and in his first attempt he just barely beat the Cons who were only a few months old and not ready for do battle. This has been the first fair fight between Liberals and Conservatives in 20 years.
1. “A strong contingent of committed federalists in the Liberal Party have made the strategic decision to undertake actions that will support the Conservative Party because it is the lesser of two evils”
I don’t buy this for a second.
“This situation is playing out at the riding level with a “take a Liberal lawn sign, but vote Conservative” whisper campaign.”
I find that highly implausible. Who wants to pretend they are a Liberal? Even Liberals pretend they aren’t Liberals. It doesn’t make sense to me.
3. Heheheh, “Carlisle Group” Frank McKenna, close personal friend of the Bush family? The guy who said this about beef protectionism:
“If this blockage continues on the border, we’re increasingly going to develop our own processing industry in Canada and we will make sure that we will end up having product on the world marketplace that will be acceptable…
“If we do that, it will mean processing jobs will move from the United States into Canada. And that’s not where we want to go.”
Way to stand up for Canada, Frank.
4. Baloney, I don’t believe it.
5. “Paul Martin is no longer in control of Liberal Party of Canada.” – OK, that I believe.
Tomorrow being election day make sure your candidate wins. Don’t be lazy.
VOTE EARLY. VOTE OFTEN.
CAW — that is as funny a line as I have heard for the last month! Thanks for the laugh.
I agree with Kate’s speculation. The big change for the liberals came when the Globe and Mail, which is apparently owned by the Power Corp, signalled it was endorsing Harper. The Demarais family needs to be onside with the government and if Harper wins, they want to try and put him in their back pocket too. So it wouldnt surprise me at all if there are forces at work trying to make sure Martin fails.
Mike,
I don’t believe in your conspiracy theory. In any event, the Globe is owned by BCE, not Power Corp. On the other hand, it is true that La Presse is owned by Power Corp.
In the meantime I have set aside beer and popcorn for the victory party tomorrow night.
Great post Kate…I feel vindicated. I was accused of being anti-CPC/Harper when I speculated the collapse in the liberal campaign was due to factional sabotage and internal party decisions to purge Martin and his retinue quickly and save fiscal resources for holding Harper to a minority by capturing the GTA/Northern Ont. then quickly rebuilding behind a united network under new leader they will bee at the polls in 3 years…they hope. You cite MaKenna as one and he is very active gathering leadership support as well as some others including rumors that Justin Trudeau will make an appearence in the new annoited one’s entourage.
The bottom line is that many liberals consigned themselves to defeat before the writ was dropped and many more after they saw Harper’s momentum unbroken. The game plan is to keep GTA as a fortress and go back to the polls for victory in 2008 . In my estimation Harper has had a relatively easy ride of it this time facing half hearted fractured Liberal campaign machine…Yes he was more polished with a gaffe-free campaign but after the Liberal ment down the only real opposition was the usual red guard in the MSM and they were kept in check by the bloggers this time.
I hope the Liberal scripted minority will fail and result in a CPC majority….that will give us bedrock to build a better liberal-slayer base from. I predict that 13 years of Librano scandals will continue to be uncovered by a sitting CPC government which will continue to doom them in the public trust department and keep their seat count low for some time to come. When the CPC demonstrates that it can govern better, more openly, democratically, ethically and inclusively, this will contras dramatically with the constant Librano scandal revelations that just keep being discovered. It will be an effective counter to any new Liberal leadership or restructuring.
The challenge for Harper now is to hold them to 50 or less seats in the next election so their damage to confederation can be repaired.
The maple-syrup and banana-republic �families� of Desmarais and Stronach are definitely hard at work positioning their next puppet: McKenna and they also tried with Ignatieff to make one of them their new CSL Captain Canada.
It won�t work. The families will be outed this time by blogs that will embarrass even the left leaning Globe and Wail into disclosure. Desmarais was able to fake the notion that Martin built CSL and was therefore competent. Martin wasn�t running it, the whole thing was handed to him and it was run by other competent people. Martin was never competent, any more than Belinda was.
In this new communication age thankfully only truth and competence can win, we have a lot of work ahead of us �let�s roll�.
Two Cents I got the papers wrong but the theory still holds. You note I did put apparently before owned. In any case BCE/Power Corp are on the same wavelength, and I would notdismiss the influence of these corporations on the election outcome.
The whisper campaign, if it exists, does not apply to the average voter who went Liberal last time. It applies to the involved Liberals in the local ridings, who don’t want to alienate themselves from their colleagues based on one election.
I live in Ottawa Centre.
Richard Mahoney’s latest literature is red.
However it omits all mention of the word Liberal and does not mention is former boss Paul Martin.
Re: Belindas web site, not that I enjoy defending Belinda but we should have the facts straight.
The web site you are visiting is the web site of the sitting member of parliament and is therefore non partisan as the office helps the constituents of Newmarket-Aurora regardless of who they vote for. If you would like information regarding Ms. Stronach�s Re-election you may visit http://www.votebelinda.ca.
Kate, you cheeky girl! ;~) and it looks like you ARE keeping us busy *grin* I guess if we’re occupied we have less time for mischief :~P
Did anyone catch Paulie jumping on stage with a rock band? (Toxic Waste I believe was the name) He proceeded to grab a guitar and did a very bad impression of being a rock star(airband playing). This just made me hurl! If this does not show this is a man on the verge of a complete mental break down…. I do not understand how anyone would feel safe giving him one vote.
I live in Ottawa Centre. Richard Mahoney’s latest literature is red.
The last piece of propaganda I saw from him was black with satanic red type – it was a pamphlet full of the most hysterical anti-Harper ravings and misquotes I’ve yet seen. Should have saved it for the archives rather then blue-binning it.
Did anyone just see the footage of Martin playing air guitar with a cheezie band on CTV NewsNet? Wow, that was just sad….
#1. Why even ‘take’ a Liberal lawn sign?
Oh wait, this is Liberals we are talking about.
#2. Could be that some Liberals would move to another party and find they respect it more…yup, could happen;)
#3. Awww!
#4. Surrrre, wink wink;)
#5. ‘Fairweather Liberals’ punching way below their weight. Or, see #1
4. Several recent Liberal campaign mistakes in fact are not mistakes. Rather, they were intentionally designed to enable the Conservatives to show their strengths and hammer the Liberals and the NDP. Buzz Hargorve’sinvolvement in the Liberal campaign is a shining example of this strategy.
You are absolutely right. #1, They know that average Canadaians aren’t stupid but WILL swallow anything they serve. #2, with the smart guys that work on these campaigns they just don’t make those kind of mistakes. Everything is intentional.
…I would tend to lean on the side of point #4 about the intentional Liberal goof ups. I did think the Liberal ads this time were almost as bad as the early Conservative ones, and did wondering “what’s up”?
Considering how they swayed the Ontario vote in the last election, I’m surprized they haven’t done it again. The recent Bloc ad about “don’t let Calgary decide for Quebec” sounded too familiar like a Liberal ad.
Even if Harper gets things passed, Liberal smart arse lawyers and leftist softie judges will undo everything.
What I think did the Liberals in was the deaths of the young lady in Toronto, and the soldiers in Afghanistan.
Sad, but that’s the Canadian way. Roll over and sleep till someone dies, then scream bloody murder, and something gets done.
Watch for a new Liberal leader, a vote of non-confidence teamed with the NDP (Bloc also if Harper doesn’t increase transfer to Quebec) and we’ll be back in the same ol’ same ol’.
The good ol’ Canadian way…zzzzzz
cheers
tom
Kate, you are a smart women but this post is bull (all due respect). This is the Liberal Party knowing they are about to lose and trying to seperate themselves from their campaign while trying to convince Canadians they “sabotaged” the campaign for the betterment of Canada. Again, I say bull. They realize, that to gain power, they have said and done disgusting things, pitted Canadians against Canadians and have now realized it didn’t work. They are now trying to re-write history by saying it was all part of some master, benevolent plan. Bull! This is your Liberals Canada, devoid of anything of substance and willing to throw aside all ethics to gain power for power’s sake. Don’t buy into their post election B.S. to try and save their reputation. One thing is for certain now, Paul Martin has become expendable, as evident by this post.
and if we have another election in 6 or 8 months, what will the liberals fund it with? they’ve already sold the soul….
“busy in the comments” haha.
“other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?” !
Well according to Buzz Hargrove (the moron), being that I live in Alberta, I am not a “real” Canadian. How sad.
Throughout the campaigne, I’ve heard much talk about Federalism in Quebec, yet I have heard very little regarding the healing of Western alienation.
Tomorrow, I am going to go do the most “Canadian” thing I can, and I am going to cast my ballot for Stephen Harper.
Buzz Lightyear Hargrove can kiss my lily white a**, to insanity and beyond!
AHAAAA….now I get it….it was all part of the Liberals’ secret master plan, deliberately throwing the election for the good of, well, themselves. This would explain the Liberals’ secret alliance with the Raelians…which would mean the Raelians really DID produce a human clone…and, could it be, a clone of…Jean Chretien!!
To take over the party.
In Canada.
In our cities.
Ohh, those sly, clever rogues…I just knew that the Natural Governing Party’s appearance of ineptitude, disorganization, outright dumbness and especially PMPM’s self-portrayal as a desperate loser flailing around for something, anything to preserve personal power had to be an act….he’s in on the plot too….
PMPM is a silver spoon-fed doofus, as is BS. Daddy hired the “right people” to run the company, whether a “sugar daddy” or the real McCoy. Belinda’s hubby ran Stronach’s outfit, not BS, while Power Corp made sure that PM didn’t screw up by hiring competent management. PMPM was used to move CSL offshore in a good corporate move, to avoid our sickening high tax environment. By using PMPM to run CSL in the proper manner of a shipping company, PM takes the flack for the company’s flagging and hiring policy, not Power Corp. They front the cash.
At no point did I say I “buy” any of this. Just thought it would give you kiddies something to chew on.
Chewed on and spit out. No nutrition in it:)
Conservatives have the socialists number, no matter what role they’re playing.
Just a way to gain sympathy, let bygones be bygones. For the good of Canada, of course. Pap.
pap
n 1: worthless or oversimplified ideas [syn: pablum] 2: a diet that does not require chewing;
The maroon who wrote that Email sounds like a disgruntled try-out for Kensella’s punk rock band.
Maybe see if the Bare Naked Commies want you pal.
Maroon – is that french for moron? Or english for the Liberals predicament on the 24th? Or Newfie for come and join us? LOL!
I do not believe this unattributed email was written by the Liberals.
Re: Toronto Sun (tip via Bruce Randall above comment)
218 REASONS NOT TO VOTE FOR THE LIBERAL’S
front page Toronto Sun.
We’re not making this up!