Licia Corbella in the Calgary Sun;
I said something like: “If it’s true Grewal was approached by the Liberals to defect prior to the non-confidence vote in the House for a plum political position, instead of just taping his calls and meetings with the Liberals, he should have got the RCMP to do it, then the veracity of his claims would not be questioned.”
My friend’s response: “The RCMP would have just tipped off the Liberals as to what was happening. The RCMP is a Liberal puppet.”
Example after example appears to prove him right.
What’s more, how diligently can we expect the RCMP to investigate AdScam when it’s known the RCMP helped launder money for the federal Liberals to help Liberal-friendly advertising companies in Quebec, who then funneled the money back into Liberal party coffers?
Federal Auditor General Sheila Fraser unveiled in April 2004 the feds pumped $1.3 million of the $3 million earmarked for the Mounties’ 125th anniversary celebration into the coffers of Liberal-friendly ad firms.
In turn, the RCMP deposited its $1.7-million share of the sponsorships in a separate non-government bank account that was discovered by Fraser’s probe.
“We were unable to verify the transactions from the Quebec bank account, because some of the supporting documents had been destroyed,” the AG report said.
Finally, someone is saying it in print.
Flashback to this;
Canada’s national police force can’t be trusted to conduct a wide- ranging investigation into new criminal allegations made at the Adscam inquiry, Conservative deputy leader Peter MacKay suggested yesterday. MacKay points to RCMP Commissioner Giuliano Zaccardelli’s “perceived” cosy relationship with the previous government of Jean Chretien and the fact the force was itself tangled up in the ad scandal.
“There’s already been significant examples of where the RCMP have been too — and I emphasize ‘too’ — closely linked to the Prime Minister’s Office,” MacKay said, recommending either the Quebec or Ontario provincial police conduct a probe instead.
He cites the involvement of Jean Chretien’s senior staff in the RCMP handling of protesters at a 1997 Asia-Pacific leaders’ summit in Vancouver, the force’s decision not to investigate Chretien’s alleged actions in the so-called Shawinigate affair and the costly, failed probe of former Conservative PM Brian Mulroney and Airbus.
The RCMP also received more than $3 million from the disgraced sponsorship program, some of it channelled through a non-government bank account.
“In all of those instances, there were questions in the minds of the public about (the RCMP’s) proximity to the government, including the commissioner’s close ties, both socially and professionally to Francie Ducros (Chretien’s former communications director) and members of the PMO staff,” MacKay said.
(The original April 12 news item is now truncated. Let that be a lesson to we bloggers to be generous in our quoting.)
I second that.
When a government is more interested in its self-interest than the public interest, that government will not truly respect the rule of law, or democracy, or civil rights etc…
The RCMP problem goes all the way back to APEC and Hughie the mountie.
I was stunned when Peter MacKay stood up on thursday in QP and asked when the PMO became the communication department for the RCMP.
Even the bloc was applauding the question.
Finally people are starting to see the link…and they are talking.
The RCMP in my opinion is hopelessly compromised at the highest level. I will also say that this does not affect their professionalism at the rank and file level. The rot is at the top.
Its one thing to have a little surface rust but when the floor boards are gone your looking at major cancer.
We need major restoration in ottawa and good on Sheila Fraser and Licia Corbella.
So where is the RCMP equivalent of Mark Felt. He was pretecting his organization, the FBI, from politicization AND he was disgusted with the actions of the Nixon White House.
Where oh where is that person….there are any number of journalists or blogs now that would be willing to drive the story AND protect confidentiality.
Your country needs you….
I think it actually goes back to the immeadiate post referendum period when that person broke into 4 Sussex and the RCMP were particularly incompetent on that one.
I think JC started a process that essentially terrorized the force, and in short order politicized it. The signal was sent through the Mulroney prosecution. It would be interesting to see what happened to the senior officers who pushed that one forward. I suspect they may have landed on their feet.
I think it became obvious through shawinigate that the RCMP was less than enthusiastic about looking into JC’s affairs and those of his associates.
It got worse with the treatment of the former head of the biz development bank (cant recall his name) and reached a pinnacle when the raid was conducted on that poor journalist.
The thing is that joe and jane sixpack dont want to even consider that our national police force could be politicized. But what was a red serge mountie doing at his royal pompousness’ wedding last week?
Anybody else have a “Show Mountie” at their wedding? Post here if you have.
Good point about the stuck up kid’s wedding last week Colin.
I noticed that too, Colin, and thought it rather weird. Trudeau Jr. isn’t (supposedly) in politics, nor is his mother or brother. And it doesn’t sound like the new wife is.
So what gives? The RCMP are so broke they’re doing rent-a-cop for weddings?
Or perhaps Justin thinks he is “Mr. Canada” himself and having a mountie there somehow proves that.
BDC’s fomrer President is Laurent Beaudoin. The judgement in his favour was shockingly blunt in condemning the conduct of BDC in the case, and made direct reference to political interference. The press in Quebec paid far more attention to it than the Anglo media.
Two good related threads on the RCMP going on now at Conservative Life Forums.
Canada’s Puppet Police Force and
Martin Wants Cooperation on Grewal Tapes Probe
http://www.conservativelife.com/
In my opinion as soon as Martin or any Martin Liberal says “co-operate with Gomery”, co-operate with the Ethics Commissioner” or co-operate with the RCMP the fix is already in.
How can we somehow make sure none of these investigations are done by their hand-picked cronies?
I may as well ask –
How did the people get around the Gestapo?
On the issue of “letting Gomery do its work,” the Libranos keep repeating that mantra and yet when it comes to “Grewal-gate,” they’ve pretty much pre-judged that matter already.
Shameer – they pre-judged Gomery too – he cannot name names. He cannot follow the various links to contracts with polling companies Earnscliffe), to contracts outside of the sponsorship ($800 million in other advertising); they just let him have a wee peek at a few things and the whitewash was already in the works with a $1 million Gomery waroom where, wouldn’t you know it, even a former senior member of CSIS was “advising” the PMO on a daily basis.
What’s your guess that every single “witness at Gomery was coached on the Liberal “plausible deniability” .
Witness tampering you say? Who is going to call them on it? The media? The RCMP?
You can bet the Ethics Commissioner Probe and the RCMP review of the Grewal tapes will be equally comprimised.
But, what can we – mere mortals demanding justice do about it? Public outcry depends on the media…
it is ugly ugly times for freedom of the press in this country.
Next they will come after the Bloggers. Oh wait – in recent days I guess that has already started.
It’s a very simple problem that also affects the Canadian Forces. Both forces rely on the government to provide them with money. The RCMP is under-funded (see this CP report Sunday “RCMP can’t keep up with money-laundering…The RCMP did not pursue more than a third of the money-laundering tips passed on by Canada’s financial sleuthing agency, largely because the force lacked the manpower, says a newly released report.” http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Law/2005/06/04/1071692-cp.html
So, notoriously, are the Canadian Forces.
Now the RCMP senior management knows that if they act in a way to dismay the government, their resourcing will only suffer more. The same is true for the Canadian Forces. But one can hope that at some point the senior officers in both forces will see that at some point their duty and honour must surpass their pragmatism.
And hope. If these forces have lost ethics at senior levels then there is grave problem for our society.
Mark
Ottawa
The rot is indeed at the top. And it’s put there by the Liberal Party and their backers. Don’t forget their backers. In my opinion the rot goes right back to a few rich families who support the Liberal Party and also control most of the major bureaucracies.
I’d love to see this thread go up to a couple hundred comments or more. And I’d love to see this story take on some legs in the MSM, except there’s rot there too so I don’t expect it to. Guess it’s up to the blogs.
I am not 100% sure of jurisdictional issues but I do believe a provincial police force could probe issues that took place within their geographic jurisdiction.
In other words, if the QPP or the OPP were so inclined they could launch an investigation. BUT given that both are controlled by Liberal governments, even though they have their issues between them, I think it unlikely.
It would be amazing to see this happen. Unfortunatley the RCMP do most of BC’s, Alberta’s and Saskatchewan’s policing so not much horp from them.
OR as I indicated you need an officer who is dedicated to the RCMP to become disgusted with the state of things and start directing the media where to look. Likelihood of either event, something approaching zero unfortunately.
Only when it looks like there will be new political masters in Ottawa with a majority government will you see the worms crawl out from under their rocks to find new havens.
A new government is the ONLY answer.
We need a few Deep Throats in Canada.
And at least two savvy investigative reporters who are supported by the management of at least one major media outlet – preferably a TV network where the stories would be used on the national news and then fed to all of the local newscasts.
One can hope – it would be hisotric and brave but one can hope. The media are citizens of this country too and they must be dismayed to see how they have contributed to this crumbling democracy.
Where is the media’s Tipping Point…we are crying for help and this is not be over reactionary.
The RCMP have been acting as the Librano’s red shirt political thugs since JC began his autocratic rule. The Shawinigate affair was nothing compared to the 8 years that they spent investigating Mulroney at the behest of le petit gars. The RCMP is Canuckistan’s version of the KGB.
This article, which explores the tendency of journalists to magnify the role of the press in scandals and identifies Mark Felt as the most likely source of a “Deep Throat,” appeared in the July 1974 COMMENTARY.
July 1974
Did the Press Uncover Watergate?
Edward Jay Epstein
A sustaining myth of journalism holds that every great government scandal is revealed through the work of enterprising reporters who by one means or another pierce the official veil of secrecy. The role that government institutions themselves play in exposing official misconduct and corruption therefore tends to be seriously neglected, if not wholly ignored, in the press. This view of journalistic revelation is propagated by the press even in cases where journalists have had palpably little to do with the discovery of corruption. Pulitzer Prizes were thus awarded this year to the Wall Street Journal for �revealing� the scandal which forced Vice President Agnew to resign and to the Washington Star/News for �revealing� the campaign contribution that led to the indictments of former cabinet officers Maurice Stans and John N. Mitchell (who were subsequently acquitted), although reporters at neither newspaper in actual fact had anything to do with uncovering the scandals. In the former case, the U.S. Attorney in Maryland had through dogged plea bargaining and grants of immunity induced witnesses to implicate the Vice President; and in the latter case, the Securities and Exchange Commission and a grand jury had conducted the investigation that unearthed the illegal contribution which led to the indictment of the cabinet officers. In both instances, even without �leaks� to the newspapers, the scandals uncovered by government institutions would have come to the public�s attention when the cases came to trial. Yet to perpetuate the myth that the members of the press were the prime movers in such great events as the conviction of a Vice President and the indictment of two former cabinet officers, the Pulitzer Prize committee simply chose the news stories nearest to these events and awarded them its honors.
The natural tendency of journalists to magnify the role of the press in great scandals is perhaps best illustrated by Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward�s autobiographical account of how they �revealed� the Watergate scandals.* The dust jacket and national advertisements, very much in the bravado spirit of the book itself, declare: �All America knows about Watergate. Here, for the first time, is the story of how we know…. In what must be the most devastating political detective story of the century, the two young Washington Post reporters whose brilliant investigative journalism smashed the Watergate scandal wide open tell the whole behind-the-scenes drama the way it happened.� In keeping with the mythic view of journalism, however, the book never describes the �behind-the-scenes� investigations which actually �smashed the Watergate scandal wide open��namely the investigations conducted by the FBI, the federal prosecutors, the grand jury, and the Congressional committees. The work of almost all those institutions, which unearthed and developed all the actual evidence and disclosures of Watergate, is systematically ignored or minimized by Bernstein and Woodward. Instead, they simply focus on those parts of the prosecutors� case, the grand-jury investigation, and the FBI reports that were leaked to them.
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/production/files/epsteinwatergate.html
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Myth: Woodward & Bernstein “uncovered” Watergate scandal. Wrong.
Mark Felt was named as Deep Throat in 1974.
Read the rest of the story.
The MSM spreads lies about Watergate.
Has Svend had his royal wedding yet?
Jeancula had red coats (not on horseback) at his lefty-of-the-century-man-o-war award ceremony in Philly, the city of otherly love a few weeks past.
Gee, those yellow-legs giddap ’round.
Maz:
Svend gave the ring back in his stay out of jail mea culpa…did he steal another we dont know about?
Wouldn’t count on the OPP.
Has anyone seen MSM coverage of an investigation of a decades old, many-membered pedophile ring in/around Cornwall, Ont.
This ring includes priests, court officers, lawyers, & etc.
Cover-up & etc. is on.
The Lords/Ladies of the Canadian oligarchy are in control of the justice system, the prison system, the RCMP, the courts,the MSM, the CBC/CTV & etc.
Blogs are the only challenge to them other than Stephen Harper and the Conservatives in the House of Commons. The Senate is hog-tied/complicit by the Librano$.
Blogs: fight on. We are happy warriors. Take the fight to the enemy.
Licia Corbella has been reporting the RCMP dealings with the Libranos since ’bout 1997 or ’98 in the Calgary Sun. This was one of many articles on our national police force, of course there’s nothing to see here folks, y’all move along now.
Re: Mr. Robinson.
Let us not be naive about the RCMP and its relationship to the Liberal regime.
The RCMP is the KGB/Gestapo/CSIS of the Libranos.
To call on the RCMP to investigate the Librano$ is a no-brainer. The Librano back-room boys/girls would read that and roll on the floor laughing (LOLROTF).
Support the Conservatives/Bloc! They are our last, best hope for freedom and democracy in Canada.
Down with National Socialism.
Yes, finally someone is saying it in print – but it’s Calgary – it’s preaching to the choir! Some of those Ontario journalist need to be saying this in print – but oh no look at those scary conservatives! The LPC is destroying our democratic institutions but it’s the CPC is scary. … Please
I agree with Licia and many of the posters here. This is something that has to be said in print and acted on. We have witnessed a distinct lack of charges when the RCMP investigate the government. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to conclude that the RCMP being answerable to a Cabinet Minister has destroyed any arm’s length objectivity the upper brass have with the government.
Perhaps we will see the national police force returned to it’s non political status in the future but for now we can’t trust the RCMP to find guilt with the government when they are part of the political establishment in Ottawa.
The Woodward-Bernstein feat would be tough to repeat nowadays. At a professional level, blogs are MSM’s competition; reporters in search of a scoop might be hesitant to touch anything already covered here (imagine the embarrassment of being out-scooped by a blogger ‘in pajamas’), although blogs do tend to make some good column material.
So, uncovering some dirt here might be counter-productive, that is if we’re urging reporters to pick up the trail. I hope I’m wrong and someone on a payroll will be induced to do some deep digging.
(kudos to Licia)
Good post. However, I have really really hard time seeing any investigation into the RCMPs political affairs division. Lets concentrate on the only goal. Removing the liberal party Of Canada. Without that, this thread is going to go to waste.
I am pleased to see someone picking up a report from Calgary. But there won’t be much put into it just for that reason. Most Albertans are not surprised and I would suspect they are just patsies for the mob.
I was going to do an article on Licia’s column today, but Kate beat me too it. I beat up on King Ralph’s spending again.
Aizlynne
Calgary
When command and control hierarchy of the judiciary, national police and armed forces are already coopted by any corrupt party in power, this only lead to one thing: a trumped up pretext to a national emergency to cause the suspension of civil liberties and “writ of habeas corpus”, in turn a possible martial rule to perpetuate themselves in power. This scenario had happened far too often in a lot of other countries where corruption had sunk into acceptance in the national consciousness as a natural course of political and commercial business . I personally witnessed this in the Philippines and the Marcos Regime… I am just fervently hoping this is not the path this country is headed to…
Grewal was offered an implicit bribe to cross the floor. Stronach was offered and accepted an explicit bribe to cross the floor. The transaction was completed.
Please ask Licia Corbella whether the RCMP is investigating B.S. and P.M. and if not why isn’t she (he) demanding same.
Grewal is an unhelpful distraction.
D-081- From August 1999 to June 2000, the Appellant granted numerous media interviews in which he denounced the Force�s handling of an investigation into corruption of the immigration application process at the Commission for Canada in Hong Kong (the �Mission�) during the late 1980s and early 1990s, suggesting that the Force was not taking the matter seriously. The Appellant also provided several journalists with copies of documents from the investigation file, including a report by a security analyst from the Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade (DFAIT), David Balser, who had concluded in 1992 that the application process was open to widespread abuse because the Mission had failed to take the appropriate safeguards to prevent immigration fraud by corrupt employees. The Force had initially been called upon to investigate activities at the Mission in 1991-92 as the result of receiving a complaint from two Hong Kong residents who indicated that they had received an offer to expedite the processing of their visa application from two women who identified themselves as employees of the Mission if they were prepared to make a payment of $10,000 through the intermediary of a local immigration consultant. They declined the offer and complained about it in writing to the Mission but received no response and therefore decided to subsequently complain to the RCMP. Reports of other unusual occurrences surfaced, which led to an RCMP investigator travelling to Hong Kong to interview selected employees. Two locally engaged staff (LES) who were suspected of involvement in immigration fraud were not interviewed and a determination made that there was insufficient evidence to implicate them in any wrongdoing because there were no signs of untold wealth on their part. Information was received from the immigration control officer, Brian McAdam, that organized crime groups (known as triads) may have infiltrated the Mission�s computer system and that fake immigration visa stamps had been found in the desk of a former employee. The investigator was apprised at the time of the conclusions reached by Mr. Balser concerning the security vulnerabilities at the Mission but did not address them in his report. The investigation was concluded due to lack of evidence. A new investigation was initiated in 1993 to consider evidence that Canada-based officers (CBOs) had accepted expensive gifts and money from a family of Hong Kong industrialists, who made efforts to ingratiate itself to staff of the Mission�s immigration section. The Force declined a request to send two investigators to Hong Kong to interview witnesses and the investigation was concluded in April 1994 due to lack of evidence.
http://www.erc-cee.gc.ca/all/all-e/d/d-081-e.html
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Notice the last sentence above: “The Force declined a request…”.
Translate: Jeancula Chretien was PM at the time.
Who “declined”? Was the RCMP too busy with the vendetta against Mulroney/meeting with Stevie Cameron? BTW, where is Stevie Cameron? Is she on ice somewhere? Wanna bet? Stuck on an huge ice cube, she is.
This Is Off topic
Why the tacky pic of a dead ground squirril?
Do you boil and pickle the squirll also?
can it for your relatives, I will call jethro
ely may, granny loves posum but squirril will do.
roy’s message is scripted by the Liberal troll department.
We are starting to get their attention; they hate the light of the truth; facts are anathema to them.
The Liberal trolls love the dark side.
Give them the facts, nothing but the facts. The Liberal trolls recoil from the facts.
Hey roy,
That was a standing shot, from about 50 yards, through the head, using a vintage pump action .22 rifle owned originally by my great-grandfather.
It’s there as a reminder to trolls.
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Editors note: see?
LOL….
Good shot Kate… no wasted ammo in your family.
Happy Daze, you’re right and I couldn’t agree with you more. One other thing, not too long ago, Martin’s lap dog Scott “Benedict Arnold” Brison repeated the same old “Let Justice Gomery do its work” crap and then in the next sentence was bragging about how Justice Gomery’s report would “vindicate” Martin and the Liberal Party. Go figure.
The present RCMP Commissioner Zardalle held a news conference that has been well documeted when he was Deputy Commissioner disclosing how the Mafiosa had been making inroads into the Ottawa Political system for the “past 30 years”, he was Deputy Commissioner for most of those years, did he know what he was saying? does it take a space scientist to fill in the squares? and not one of the reporters had the guts to ask him why he had not nipped it in the bud 29 years ago, or 15 years ago, why wait for 30 years to tell us about it, talk about a cop out, he as much as admitted that he let it happen, and when I saw Norman Inkster the retired Commissioner being interviewed by “cue-ball Duffy ” a couple of weeks ago, I never saw a guy so scared in my life, it looked like he was praying that he would not be asked any of the hard questions, which he was not of coarse. He tried to say that the cash money that was in the brown envelopes came out of the bank, and when it was brought to his attention that it could have been drug money, the same drug money that Madam Simard mentioned in her testamoney in the Accts Committee,she suspected being made out of the co. that she was asked to work for and refused, Inkster tried to imply that the money made it’s way back into the bank, and if you believe that I have the whole of Vancouver Island that I have for sale that I would like to talk to you about. It hurts me to say the following with three of my immediate family being loyal RCMP dating back to the RNWMP, who are all now dead, however the mounted police of today in my opinion are worse than Hitlers brown shirts, at least Hiters brown shirts were up front about what they were doing, these Librano Mafia Librano enablers are operating under the false guise of “Democracy” when in reality they are nothing less than just that, worse than Hitlers brown shirts, and the only way we can clean up these rogues is to bring in the Conservatives. Though once Ducette takes the helm of the PQ, he may mean it this time, and really decide to seperate, realizing that the coup de t’tat to take the whole of Canada is now a mindless venture, better to have a couple of slices of bread, rather than lose the whole loaf, so now the Anglo Canadians can get on building what is left of Canada that should have been done from the start, not to mention that the Anglos can now qualify for the top positions in Gov’t jobs, as well as the Military, and Quebec will do very well as an independent country, they will open up their border to the US,they have Hydro and Quebecs natural rescources as a bargaining chip, and keep up with their trade in Ontario, as well as the UN, and France will throw them tons of bucks, but for the first time Quebec will not be supported by Anglo Canadian bucks the off shore money can look after them for a change.
God pray that it happens for both Quebecs, and the Anglos sake, this madness has to stop, and the Ottawa Beurocrats can find jobs in the UN where they belong, the corrupt leading the corrupt.
Have any of you wondered why the Libs had dragged their feet about calling the Maher Arar inquiry and the whole Air India thing is now basically gone from the news? You watch my back, I’ll watch yours. There seems to be a bit of collusion going on here. And the fact that Morselli’s company caters the RCMP headquarters in montreal’s cafeteria is just a little too cozy. I guess they all know where their bread is buttered… wow, I feel cheap just saying that. :-p
Anyone else notice when the truth was getting closer and closer to Martin, the Liberals started questioning the costs of Gomery? Why should they care about taxpayers money when they’ve spent over $26 billion in bribes since Martin started blubbering like a crybaby on national television.
Future Truth
In a comment to my previous post Shameer Ravji writes:
Quite honestly, both sides seem as if they can’t be trusted
And on the surface, how this is playing out in the media and how the opposition has managed this event does make it seem a little s…
Future Truth
In a comment to my previous post Shameer Ravji writes:
Quite honestly, both sides seem as if they can’t be trusted
And on the surface, how this is playing out in the media and how the opposition has managed this event does make it seem a little s…
When former BDC president Beaudoin had his house and cottage raided by the RCMP after he turned down Chretien’s request for a loan, I don’t recall any media coverage of what the grounds for the raid were. I know that the RCMP found nothing, and that Beaudoin moved his family to France, or somewhere. Was there any follow-up at the time on what the RCMP were claiming to be looking for? I must have lost the thread on this one.
Regardless, you’d have to think that the rank and file members of the force, particularly in the west, are not too happy about this shit-wave that is currently washing over them. The RCMP have traditionally upheld the kind of principles which do not mesh with Jean Chretien’s gallic shrug. They just might have to reassert by clearing out the top floor.
Re the Duffy/Inkster interview.
It was one of the most dishonest things that I believe I have ever witnessed. After referencing Coyne’s questioning where the cash came from, Duffy asked three questions including specifically whether there was any possibility of organized crime involvement. Inkster gave totally irrelevant answers (much like how the Liebribealls answer during Question Period)including the classic warning about comparing apples to oranges(huh?) and concluding with the observation that if there are any problems, the Treasury Board and the dept of Finance will find them and fix them!(gag) In essence, an ex-RCMP commissioner was dismissing out of hand the possibility of organized crime involvement. And Duffy didn’t question a single word of Inkster’s flaky, irrelevant answers. Incompetence or collusion? Again.
You want to read Paul Palango’s “The Last Guardians” (McClelland & Stewart, Toronto, 1998). It is subtitled “The crisis in the RCMP – and in Canada”. It should be available in any good Canadian library. Chapter 2 is titled: “The Legacy of Norman Inkster”. It is not a positive legacy. Inkster was commissioner from Sept 1987 to June 1994 (ie Mulgooney years) and many detrimental changes came under his watch. One of the conclusions of the book is that there is no longer any authority in Canada protecting us from white-collar crime. No protection from the mafia (oops! sorry – they prefer to be known as “organized businessmen” these days) or Quebec lawyers.
To Stephen WW 2 Vet,
First let me say “Thank YOU!!” on this special day. We have almost forgotten what your generation did for us in this country. I can’t agree more with your thoughts. The almost 900 Canadian soldiers that died at Dieppe on August 19, 1942 would have no comfort in seeing their country today. Where have we gone wrong? By allowing the Liberals power for so long we have lost the moral compass that had produced the men that were willing to die for what this country stood for a half century ago. The Liberals were so desperate to retain power that they couldn’t even show up for the VE celebrations in Holland, indeed a sad state of affairs for this country. When will someone rise up and give us a good shake and point us down the right road again before it is too late.
To Happydaze. The people in Germany didn’t get around the GESTAPO. It took a great many good men from around the world to deliver freedom to Europe. Unfortunately we, in this country have proven the adage, “For evil to succeed it only requires that good men do nothing.” The Canadian electorate have done nothing for so long that we now believe the lies and inuendo that keeps the Liberals in power.