Anarchists from around the world are planning to cause chaos at next month’s G8 summit in Gleneagles as a row broke out last night between Bob Geldof and DJ Andy Kershaw over the absence of black musicians at events staged to benefit Africans.
With police fears mounting over Geldof’s call for one million people to protest at the summit, Kershaw last night condemned the almost exclusively white line-up for the pop concerts to coincide with the summit. “If we are going to change the West’s perception of Africa, events like this are the perfect opportunity to do something for Africa’s self-esteem,” he said. “But the choice of artists for the Live8 concerts will simply reinforce the global perception of Africa’s inferiority.”
Excuse me while I struggle free from this Oprah moment.
So, we need to assist Africa in building “self esteem”. We need to stop reinforcing the perception of Africa’s inferiority.
Well then, why didn’t you say something earlier? That’s an easy one to solve.
Let them start funding their own goddamn aid programs for a change.
Perfect Kate,
As long as everyone keeps bailing them out, they’ll never fix it for themselves…… hmmmmmm…. much like some of the Canadian social programs and transfer payments… and current government.
Help yourself …… what a concept … must be new, not to many people have heard of it.
Mugabe’s Bulldozers Push People Back To Land (200,000 Now Homeless)
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From freerepublic.com:
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 6-6-2005 | David Blair
Mugabe’s bulldozers push people back to land.
By David Blair in Johannesburg (Filed:
06/06/2005) President Robert Mugabe’s onslaught against Zimbabwe’s cities has escalated to claim new targets, with white-owned factories and family homes being demolished in a campaign that has left 200,000 people homeless. Across the country, Mr Mugabe is destroying large areas of heaving townships and prosperous industrial areas alike. Virtually all the areas demolished voted for the opposition MDC Party in the last elections. The aim of this brutal campaign is, says the official media, to depopulate urban areas and force people back to the “rural home”.
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200,000 people, men/women/children, now homeless.
Woe to Africa.
This is a Socialist regime at work in Africa.
” says the official media…”: The state controlled propaganda machine… controlled by Mugabe and his cabal.
These words are terrifying: ” to depopulate urban areas and force people back to the “rural home”.
This is Cambodia’s Killing Fields redux.
Where are Martin, Bono, and all the leftists.
Silent as the dead lambs, black lambs, that is.
To the north sits Rwanda, another killing field of not long ago.
“Mistah Kurtz – he dead.” (Joseph Conrad- Heart of Darkness)
Where is that picture from???
And why haven’t the MSM picked up on the bulldozers? That’s insane.
DARFUR UPDATE: Nicholas Kristof writes:
All countries have rapes, of course. But here in the refugee shantytowns of Darfur, the horrific stories that young women whisper are not of random criminality but of a systematic campaign of rape to terrorize civilians and drive them from “Arab lands” – a policy of rape.
One measure of the international community’s hypocrisy is that the world is barely bothering to protest. More than two years after the genocide in Darfur began, the women of Kalma Camp – a teeming squatter’s camp of 110,000 people driven from their burned villages – still face the risk of gang rape every single day as they go out looking for firewood.
Nemat, a 21-year-old, told me that she left the camp with three friends to get firewood to cook with. In the early afternoon a group of men in uniforms caught and gang-raped her.
“They said, ‘You are black people. We want to wipe you out,’ ” Nemat recalled.
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I think we need to be doing more. A lot more.
posted at 10:03 PM by Glenn Reynolds
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Mr. Martin/Graham/Kilgour, will you speak to this report?
Mr. Kilgour, speak up.
The word is: r-a-p-e. Get it. No, you cannot. You are hard left liberal socialists.
But wait: isn’t Stephen Lewis, aka Mr. NDP, Canada’s AIDS IN AFRICA ambassador? Why, yes.
Lewis shall send aid to Darfur, Zimbabwe & report later to the UN/Kofi club.
Aid isn’t the answer in these countries. Taking out the regime is.
Wow! This is really starting to cut through the crap and hype. (And we think we have problems)!?!
Good post.
I’d like to point something out, and this isn’t the first time I’ve done it, isn’t it hilarious that once again we see “anarchists” getting “organized” to protest. Does anyone else see the hypocrisy in this? They did it for the Bush inauguration too. What a laugh.
“Aid isn’t the answer in these countries. Taking out the regime is.”
It’s the aid that keeps the regime going.
Junker,
Ever notice how there the first ones to run away when things get hot, but seem to have the loudest mouth?
Reminds me of the events in Somalia, early 90’s I think, when I began reading analyses that asserted that such famines, which are largely human caused, could be averted through political means (read: certain leaders should be replaced – peacefully or otherwise). Then suddenly in 92 at Rio, the UN had to change the subject to: Global Warming, the “greatest threat facing mankind”.
In 94 the Rwanda genocide happened, but the UN leadership had more pressing matters to attend to. And didn’t PMPM just commit $10B to Kyoto implementation? Hey, first things first.
I for one am sick of all the do-godders that refuse to look for the root causes of the problems in Africa but care so much about “Root Causes” for all of our domestic problems. Before we give a single dollar or forgive a penny of debt the tyrants should be removed from power, their palaces sold for scrap metal or turned into schools for girls. Their Swiss accounts should be liquidated and used to pay for teachers, farm equipment and technology. THe natural resources should be developed and the money used to better the lives of the citizens and free elections must be held. Do those things and I’ll happily forgive all of the outstanding debt.
There’s nothing funnier than leftists trying to out-left each other. Wake me when the African Women’s activist group starts fighting with Kershaw about how many black African women should be among the subset of black African artists…and then again when the African Lesbian Association gets a hold of the African Women’s group…and watch out for the African Trans-Gendered Association…
What I don’t understand is how I can send $30/month to World Vision and a child in Africa is fed and educated, but all the aid from governments goes into the dictators’ pockets. Maybe the governments should start sending the aid money to organizations that have proven they know wtf they are doing.
Send aid today, tomorrow it’s stolen and the day after the starving people are saying “what aid”? Then a year later, repeat the process. That’s insanity, it accomplishes nothing except making despots richer at the expense of the taxpayer.
The only way to help is to send in troops, take out the governments, and establish democracies. Anything else accomplishes nothing and is only pretending to treat a symptom of the problem.
Of course I don’t know how long democracies last but if they get 5 or 10 good years out of it, you could say ther are (were) better off.
Maybe everybody will get lucky and one will stick but if it doesn’t pan out and we decided it wasn’t worth the lives and money, then the best solution is to do nothing, since doing nothing gets the same results as aid anyway (minus the expense and the even-wealthier thugs).
Good thread…. finally, the realistic approach on how to deal with corrupt regimes, one that actually works.
War is hell, sure, but sometimes necessary to resolve a massacre. All the money in the world isn’t going to fix that. The lefty do gooders that think they can stop it with there peace signs can just be in the front, in case they listen.
And I wouldn’t take World Vision’s TV commercials too seriously. Do you really think there’s a personal representative there to make sure every child gets his $30 worth of food each month (much less each day)?
>>Aid isn’t the answer in these countries. Taking out the regime is.
Yo, Rambo, when do you ship out?
Careful Naked Ape, Kate’s already taken out one of you tonight… she’s very accurate…
I did my twenty, how many did you do?
Fifteen… seems like a long time ago now… ended up instructing because of my M/A training before I went in.
Much of these “benifit” concerts, are pulicity blitzes. A really good way to get people to listen to your music is by performing in one of these huge concerts that much of the civilized world will be watching.
Actually Rob, my comment was directed at Mr “Yo Rambo” but okay (I know he wasn’t talking to me but I was on the same side he was talking to).
Ooopss… sorry about that Jay.. gotta learn to read slower..
I thought that anarchists didn’t believe in anything?
I spot 4 liberals in the picture anybody guess which ones?
Seriously… the solution is not to increase aid, but to completely eliminate it, followed by military action to enforce regime change.
Geldoff, Bono, and others are hopelessly mired in the 80s. I supported their anti-apartheid BS, but now I know better. After my aunt and uncle, missionaries in Kenya, explained what’s REALLY going on there, I will never again trust or believe the 80s musicians and their faulty logic. Apartheid was the glue that held much of the continent together, and removing it was a great way to begin the road we see Africa is now on. Shame on leftists with a simpleton’s view of the world, and shame on those gullible enough to follow these dummies.
Hi
I was born on Good Friday 1958, so MLK was assasinated on my tenth birthday. I’m as wasp as wasp can be but it affected me. Oprah’s mentor Maya Angelou shares the same birthday (she knew and worked with MLK). She has an expression that I like “We are more alike my friend then we are unalike, we are more alike my friend then we are unalike.”
Africa has been exploited by European Powers since the beginning of the slave trade. It continues today in terms of economic explotation.
Before we send in Team America perhaps halting arms sales might be a plan.
I read somewhere recently that by going back 50 generations every person on earth has at least one common ancestor.
Let me know what you think.
dafyyd
“I read somewhere recently that by going back 50 generations every person on earth has at least one common ancestor.”
I can guarantee you that it’s a lot less than 50.
I breed purebred dogs – one of the first things one learns along the road is that one doesn’t have to go very far back into canine ancestry before a pedigree contains more dogs than were alive at that time.
The same holds true for humans. If pedigrees were as readily available for human beings as they are for domesticated species, we’d soon discover that not only do we share common ancestors, but that those common ancestors start to duplicate, triplicate, quadruplicate as we go further back in the generations.
Oh – as a matter of accuracy – the slave trade existed in Africa for centuries before the first European set foot on the continent. Slavery was the norm across the planet at that time – another aspect of history that we tend to judge through a modern lens of ignorance.
I don’t know what our arms sales to particular countries in Africa are but I doubt they’re significant. Usually, if you talk about American arms sales it means missiles, fighters, high-end items to successful, established countries (like South Africa used to be).
The problem in Africa seems to be individual arms – rifles. Don’t see many if any M16’s in pictures. But even if they were all using them, and we cut off sales, what would that change? Nothing, because the french, the Russians, the Spanish would continue to sell them all they could afford to buy.
Yes, David, we are all in the same family, ultimately. No argument there. But there’s an awful lot that doesn’t follow from that fact — almost everything, really.
When one group of grinning Rwandans, egged on by car-top loudspeaker radio broadcasts, were using machetes to hack into smaller and smaller pieces members of the other ethnic group, a lot of people were quite convinced that it was all the fault of Europeans, and our collective colonial legacy, and our politicians, and the World Bank…
I’m not so sure. A part of me just wants to say, hey, wanna go over there and apologize? Tell them straight out that you and your family are responsible for all their thoughts, their feelings, their politics, their well-being…maybe just drive over in a jeep to wherever there’s trouble, get out and make a peace sign, and start informing them.
It’s funny, people who wouldn’t stand up if their next door door neighbour was being murdered now feel empowered by 70’s college words to sort the world out.
Well, have at ‘er, I say. Let me know how it turns out. Those words, I mean.
I don’t think Raytheon sells machettes.
I rail against the arrogant ingnorange that we can fix it with a enforced regime change. Yes slavery had been going on for a long time but not with the vim and vigor of organized business, ships and guns etc.
Since the USSR has been declared an “non-evil empire” we could ask them and all their friends not to sell them arms either.
dafyyd
Pre-colonial slavery probably had a great deal of vim and vigor. I’m just guessing.
Sorry,I need to go to bed.
I celebrate D-Day every year.
dafyyd
Wait hold it. How did US become 40% black???
dafyyd
Everybody liked each other.
What in Sam Hill is goin on in that picture ???
I think it’s……I don’t know.
I think it pertains to Raytheon.
yep explotation as in not in past tense.
its pretty tense.
dafyyd
It really is quite tense.
back to Jay and World Vision and commercials.
Jay: I get letters. And pictures. And have for the past three years. I have no idea whether the full $30, or $25 of it, or even $20, makes it to Africa but I get letters from the child, thanking me.
I’ve been a sponsor since the brainwave hit me (i.e. my daughter wanted a “little sister” and I’m a single parent. BINGO!). She (the little sister in Africa) is growing and learning. Maybe only $20 is getting there. Hell, maybe only $15. But it’s working.
Beats the hell out of the $400 million plus sitting in Ottawa for tsunami relief, wouldn’t you say?
Looks like personal status enhancement. Reminds me of a tall blond couple who had an exotic Monkey in Vancouver’s trendy West End early eighties.
They seemed to always be walking along the beach at the end of Denman under the penthouse high rises.
These two were obviously more elite than than everyone, with their tall thin exotic monkey, with the long gracefully curved tail held high. TonyGuitar
Their r no US and them
dafyyd
F**k Ya!
They should get Pink Floyd to play “US and them” from “The Dark Side of the Moon” at the G8. At least their named after black guys.
dafyyd
Google them lyrics.
Sorry, I’m having a bit of a sleepless night.
I have a Big (nearly) Dead Animal on my hands.
My 11 year old 100lb Bouvier is near the end of the road. Simone. Simone des Bouvier.
dafyyd
I rail against the ignorant leftist ranting you’re spewing, “david ewing”. Sleepless night? Maybe it’s your conscience, telling you your wacko ideals are the REAL cause of half the world’s problems.
How you people continue breathing with your odd and uninformed view of reality continues to mystify me.
Canadian Troops for Sudan: How? What Consequences for Afghanistan?
In their Globe and Mail column “Let’s do the right thing in Darfur” (June 4), Messrs Heinbecker and Axworthy say Canada should “…offer 1,500 Canadian troops, with all the gear they require”. One wonders how they propose the get Canadian troops and gear there and sustain the force, given that the force would be almost completely dependent on air supply. Have they not noticed that the airlift capability of the Canadian Air Force, thanks to a decade of Liberal neglect, is diminishing and can barely cope with the needs of our troops already in Afghanistan? The Hercules transports are suffering from serious aging and are being cannibalized to keep fewer and fewer planes operational. In fact, in April the two Hercules squadrons at Trenton were merged into one because there are no longer enough operational aircraft to justify maintaining two squadrons.
Moreover, on May 16 Defence Minister Graham announced that the main Canadian effort in Afghanistan would transfer from Kabul to Kandahar in the south in early 2006 with some 1,000 troops to be deployed there and eventually lead NATO ISAF action in that part of the country. Do Messrs Heinbecker and Axworthy really believe the Canadian Forces can sustain 1,500 troops in Darfur at the same time as 1,000 or so in Afghanistan? I think it is clear the Forces cannot. Messrs Heinbecker and Axworthy should have been honest enough to point out that their (unrealistic) suggestion would also mean cancellation of the planned Afghan deployment, upon which NATO is depending.
Mark
Ottawa
Bang on Kate.
PS Mark almost 100 years ago we sent almost 200,000 over the top at vimy ridge 1917 now we can’t send in 2,500?
Says something.
codetech
let me guess
your house is devoid of
of animals and other
breathing entities
sleepless nights only
occur in front of the
electonic fireplace
(avec keyboard)