8 Replies to “We Don’t Need No Flaming Sparky Cars”

  1. Are you kidding me? NHTSA; please notice the TSA on the end of the initials, cannot find their ass with both hands and a proctologist. They are so busy trying to cover their own inept butt in their botched investigations they have no time for any new ones. Maybe someone could go to their offices and put toothpicks covered in super glue in all the locks. That might keep them out of trouble for a couple of months.

  2. Any other shocking and unexpected news? Never heard of a Tesla catching fire before. Does water still run downhill?

  3. Of all of the electromotive elements, Li-Ion is (I think) the only one that is flammable. In order to gain a small increase in battery
    power density, they have turned cars, cellphones, vaping devices, etc. into flamethrowers. We came close to losing at least
    one jetliner, and a few cargo planes due to the government-mandated use of Li-Ion backup batteries. The old backup device
    was safe and reliable. It involved manually deploying a small propeller-driven generator that maintained control voltage and
    deployed safety devices like breathing masks. I used to troubleshoot motor control circuits and on occasion, designed a few.
    Who gives a damn if the passengers have to sit in the dark, the pilots at least would have control of the aircraft with the old
    system. it sure beats dying in a fire!

    1. I have to disagree with you. All forms of power that can be supplied to an automobile contain a lot of power. It’s not that Li-Ion batteries are flammable, it’s that they self-ignite. Gas and diesel will burn, but only after an initial influx of heat (to make the flammable vapours), a steady supply of oxygen, and a spark. Once you’ve put out the fire, it stays out. There may be more vapours released, but (absent a fresh spark) there will be no more combustion.

      Once a battery has started oxidizing it’s a spontaneous reaction. Put out the fire and walk away, it will oxidize itself hot enough to burn again.

      Not to mention the “fun” of discharging a capacitor by hitting it with a steam of water. Fire-fighters should be advised to avoid spraying burning electric cars (or homes with solar panels).

      All of that said, our mining trucks do well with electric motors powering the drive wheels and a diesel (locomotive) engine supplying the power to the wheels. The best of both worlds?

      1. Yes, they self ignite, but it usually occurs when they are being stressed by charging or discharging. Most of the
        self-combustion of EV’s occur while the vehicle is being charged or when they are driven hard and parked. EV
        fires are actually rare in other circumstances. You are absolutely correct with your points about ICE-powered
        vehicles, but despite the rigged Ford Pinto tests the same thing can happen to a 60s era Caddilac Fleetwood
        in a collision. Regarding diesel-electric powered equipment, it makes sense if you want constant torque
        throughout the RPM range.

        PS I hate the use of the phrase that electric motors produce maximum torque at zero RPM. They produce zero
        zero torque at zero RPM. The truth is that they produce maximum torque at any RPM above zero.

        I was an industrial electrician and instrument technician at a paper mill. All you need to do to debunk the
        myth of EV’s is to realize that it takes about 750 Watts per horsepower regardless of the type of engine
        or motor. They will never be practical for more than short-range applications.