William H. Corbett, former commissioner of Canada Elections recounts the completely unexceptional circumstances of the 2006 Federal Election and Big Screen TV Raffle at the Ahtahkakoop First Nation polling station in Desnethe-Missinippi-Churchill River.
So Conservative RM’s take note: you have plenty of time to round up some nice door prizes.
Welcome to North Philadelphia…
So who paid for the TV?
too funny , and Harper’s the crazy one.
Always remember the Elections Canada rule:
“If a Non-Conservative did it it’s not illegal”
Love the link.
That’s a manure spreader isn’t it?
Awesome!!
I fail to understand why it’s important for engagement among low information voters.
If you need a chance at a TV as incentive to vote, then you probably shouldn’t be voting.
Why is there always a “Big Screen TV Raffle” : )
Absolutely hilarious…
Chair Preston: …”your time is up and I have no TVs for you!”
The whole ‘investigation’ drips with chicanery and in fact is the definition of chicanery.
Cheers
Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
What a sleaze ball. Not a whiff of corruption. No sir. I-I-I-I uh-uh-uh-uh no siree not a smidgen of a scintilla of a whiff. I loved how he kept trying to make it sound like a great rural story. And Mrs. So-and-so (who won the TV) wouldn’t even talk to us. Or “I didn’t know places like that existed”. Anything to distract from the real story. Wasted time speculating how the raffle worked. And then the moderator even demeans the questioner at the end.
Pure Liberal sleaze through and through.
I wonder what the reaction would be, if in some urban riding, (Vancouver Downtown East Side?) the same offer of a free TV was made. “Come. Vote. Win a free TV!” …and they had 100%+ turnout? My guess is if the “preferred” candidate won, there wouldn’t be a story.
This is outrageous – but of course, it was the preferred candidate who won, so that was OK.
ahhhhh freaking amateurs.
The DNC shows them how to really do voter fraud!
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2014/04/02/massive-voter-fraud-discovered-in-north-carolinas-2012-election/
When Sgt. Schultz is in charge of your national election apparatus, you’re really in trouble.
A few comments:
. All the Indians around southern Ontario have ‘get out of tax, free’ cards. Some kind of identity card that allows them to avoid paying GST/HST. The big screen TV is tax free for them. I presume these cards are controlled, they appear to be identity cards.. so why would Indians be held up as requiriung special ‘vouch to vote’, given they all have these cards?
. know someone who hires a lot of recent immigrants. Sri Lankans, Pakistanis, etc. The stories about vouching in Toronto being widely misused struck a cord with these immigrants, they shared stories about their culture of favours, where you get a bus ride from an organizer to a polling station, in exchange for other favours. Some of her staff were wondering when they would be contacted, to fulfill their end of the bargain and be in line for future favours.
This is a cultural thing, that Canada needs to change right soon. There were a lot of illegal votes in the last Ontario election, from these groups.
. was peripherally involved in 2001, as a member of a constituency association, with Elections Canada, over illegal campaign materials funded by a mysterious third party (i.e. Liberal Party of Canada — we all knew it). The investigator was employed by Elections Canada, was ex RCMP, and absolutely useless. Made no real effort, just went through the motions. I knew the fix was in after the first meeting.
From that, I deduced that Elections Canada was pathetically useless at uncovering anything.
Why is there always a big screen TV?
Just posted this in the comments under the vid on YouTube.
I am not debating the 105% bit. I get that this could happen. But 100% of the vote for one candidate? It strains credulity to the breaking point. I think reserves are like any other small community in that everybody has somebody that doesn’t like them. But just for the sake of argument, I will allow that the candidate in question was more impressive than Jesus, Mary, and Joseph all rolled into one. If that was the case, why in the world would you need to throw a big screen TV into the mix to entice people to show up to vote? What with the local Messiah on the ticket and all. And why would the votes have come in so late? And why would you have to instruct people as to who they would be better off voting for? Seems to me that Superman sells himself, no seminar needed. If this was a riding that had gone Conservative, and it was in Southern Alberta, heads would be rolling, Justin would be frothing at the mouth, and the shrill cries of the Harper haters would be shattering whine glasses from sea to sea to sea.
This is the kind of stuff you hear about in third world countries.
Well, apparently it was on a reserve, and so many of those are operated like third world countries.
Appoint Jeremy Harrison as Election Commissioner.
When Barney Fife was doing his Liberal proselytizing on the new election act last Sunday one of the poor disenfranchised peoples were natives on reserves. There is no such thing as a Indian over 17 without photo ID. The Indian card is the key to a veritable cornucopia of welfare programs and no-one leaves home without it. Without an Indian card, a lot of those reserve guys might have to find a job.
cheap bassturds could have raffled an escalade
Same thing as Democrats handing out cigarettes and bus rides to the polls in the USA.
In Canada, natives are treated differently than other people are, like East Indians in B.C. mills are. They’re seen as block voters.
I’ve heard when the Ballot box was submitted to Elections Canada it was empty and the Chief Returning Officer said the ballots were burned.
During the last provincial election I scrutineered.
We had a guy from another poll wanting to vote in our poll, the elections official said fine, but we put a stop to it and got her to phone and check, her boss said no way.
The official on the spot reluctantly agreed with this, but said we should have allowed it anyway because they were always trying to get more voter participation.
Then she said she had never seen anything fishy in 15 years, which was probably true since she was as blind and stupid as a post.
Yup, voter fraud is a great way to get out the vote.
You have to believe in honesty with honour if you want a true election. In relativist morally wounded leftist run Canada, both are hard qualities to find.
Are the liberals still using the Titanic’s ships personnel log for voters?
Feuds are no stranger to native band reserves, which is why I seriously doubt that the vote went unanimous. That just doesn’t jibe with what I’ve seen and read re. the bands in my area. No way.
Other than the fact that a bunch of natives got to vote, I fail to see your objection here. It was a sloppy mess but it was investigated and no fraud was found. You want to prosecute people because “you know what’s really going on” despite the fact that you don’t.
Also, do any of these Con clowns ever ask an intelligent question with the time and money that we waste on them? Idiot has 5 minutes to ask an intelligent question so he spends four and a half minutes recapping an old story for the benefit of the rubes and then tacks on a stupid question at the end.
What a wasteful government.
Gee even the moderator (also known as the Chair) turns out to be a liberal sleaze. The things you learn from the astute comments at SDA.
Joe Preston, Conservative MP, is a liberal sleaze.
I did not see that coming.
I believe they learned this from the last presidential election, where (I recall reading) at one polling station people were handing out small kitchen appliances to those who would vote for obama. Sounds like a good idea, for a new Corvette I’d even vote NDP, mind you I’d hate myself in the morning.
There’s a lot of things wrong with the Leftist over-reaction taking place to the simple measures in this bill.
#1. The constant refrain that “there’s no evidence of fraud” so then let’s continue this dubious unidentified voting procedure.
As ChrisR stated…Elections Canada is probably never going to find “slam-dunk” evidence, because the bureacracy is just going through the motions. They’ll look for the easiest answers to explain away their own mistakes. It’s about passing the buck and not following through in order to do less work. In fact, think through the process of vouching fraud and try to play out how you’d get caught? If you were caught you apologize and say you made a mistake. Nobody would kick off an evidence-based fraud allegation report…especially with people lined up out the door to vote. The “no evidence” crowd play that card whenever they just want what they want. It’s a version of appealing to authority.
#2. The notion that finding a piece of I.D. or a piece of mail with your address on it is just unbelievably impossible.
Leftists love standing up for marginalized members of society. They do this because they feel these people need their protection. What would an Indian or a bum on the street do without the vocal solidarity of a guilty white liberal in their place?
Surely in 2014, in Canada, everyone can find some I.D. Trawling through the “What about this guy? What about that guy?” examples isn’t really the point is it? If you’ve so dropped out of society that you can’t find some I.D. in Canada within the next 19 months, then yes…you probably shouldn’t be voting. You should probably focus on not having such a messed up life that you aren’t able to identify yourself in 21st century Canada…or go back to the moonshining on the mountainside and enjoy being free from the man.
#3. Leftists are just taking their cues from Democrat outrage in the U.S.
Canadian leftists just hear the gist of the Fair Elections Act and they react the way they saw U.S. leftists act to strengthen their voting process a couple years ago. The whole Harper = Bush = Hitler meme is strong amongst the Twitteratti crowd and they just aren’t thinking in any sort of logical way. Even when you offer counters to their concerns, they are just wallpapering the social media feeds with Harper-Bush-Hitler.
Luckily hard-core leftists in Canada are less than 10% of the population, but their influence can sway the cheap seats over time.
#4. Conservatives should vouch-vote by the busloads.
If Harper gets cold feet on this bill and vouch-voting remains in 2015, we should get the buses together and find swing ridings and spend all day vouch voting for Conservative candidates. I’d like to see Ralph Goodale hit the road and he only wins by about 1000 votes each election.
My Conservative voting parents live in his riding so they could vouch for everyone. If we rounded up 10 people and brought some changes of clothes and some wigs, we could just spend all vouch-voting.
Exactly why I will never ever ever vote again !
Stan – I scrutineered at an election in Surrey (Whalley) one year – I believe it was for either Conservative or Reform – and I complained to the lady in charge,that East Indian males were going behind the polls to show their women who to vote for, and was told that it was allowed because they didn’t know the English spelling! They could have written the name of their preferred candidate on a piece of paper, and the ladies could have then voted for who they really liked without being watched. Our elections are frauds, and have been for a long time. Remember when they put a Bible over the slot? Not anymore, might offend someone.
Elections Canada have interpreted their mandate as seeing as many native people as possible vote, even when an absurdity like 103% turnout occurs. N Korea would be proud of those numbers. I’ve never understood why it is so vital to have people vote who have no interest or motivation to do so. Maybe I am missing something.
What stands out to my mind is how the leftist amongst us seem to believe that the sheer number of voters validates an election not the number of eligible voters. Of course most of leftists don’t like the first past the post method of selecting our representatives and would prefer some sort of weighted ballot. Of course weighted ballots gave Albertans Stelmach and Redford. nuff said.
I`m surprised that video was never shown of CBC`s National with host Peter Mansbridge.
Now you know what they`re watching on the big screen TV!!
Too clean for a manure spreader, looks like a seeder to me.
So a person so inept that they do not have an ID, needed to purchase beer and cigarettes , should be allowed to vote?
Surely this would be a red flag, if one is so stupid they cannot turn up at the polls with ID, they have the full support of the Libtards and NDP?
Sure says a lot about the respect these parties have for the voter.
It’s the secret to Liberals’ success