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One of the consequences will be Nuclear Proliferation. Does anyone doubt that Japan, Taiwan, and South Korea could not make thermonuclear weapons if they choose? It is an engineering and political issue, not a knowledge problem.
If Pax Americana falls, it will be every country for itself.
Japan calls for dialogue and trust, but won’t concede one inch on a group of useless islands. Japan is having a hard time adjusting to not having much influence either militarily or economically,and they want the rest of the world to back them.
When they are on top, Japan is the most ruthless Nation on the planet, so there’s a little schadenfreude hearing these pleas from “poor little,reasonable Japan”.
“Don’t take it as being provocative, (but) I think Europe should be reclassified as an emerging country,” De Margerie said.”
I don’t think they’re “emerging” just yet, they have to hit bottom first before they’ll smarten up and rescind all their green regulations.
From article: “The dispute over the uninhabited but potentially mineral-rich islands”
Japan is a country will little or no natural resources(which is why they bombed Pearl Harbour when America cut them off of steel) and these islands are reputed to be “mineral rich”.
The original discoverer and owner of the Senkaku Islands is China.
The only country that is allowed to claim historical ownership of lands is Israel,
and that by virtue of the fact that they were endorsed by a mythical foreskin-enthusiast.
The human species is deeply flawed.
@Don:
Come on, at least give the Japs credit for becoming a real democracy after the war. Time to get over it and move on.
don, maybe you should keep up to international news. China has been “bullying” Vietnam, India, people within their own borders, Taiwan, Mongolia, the Philipines and just about every one else in the neighborhood, so, would you that every one just watch and do nothing till it’s too late, that’s just how the 2nd WW got it’s start.
Not to forget China’s occupation of Tibet.
Okay, let’s send in the troops!
The Canadian Forces, under the auspices of the great and glorious UN, can occupy the Senkaku/Daioyu islands until hell freezes over or the two tribes,who have hated each other for centuries, kiss and make up. Ooooh,the sight of those blue berets fills me with excitement!
We will make fix!
China bullies everyone because they can, Japan used to for the same reason.I’m not about to go to war over a China/Japan dispute.
Don,
Not the islands involved but the resulting claims to underwater oil deposits surrounding them.
History has not been kind to the Chinese and Japan was one of the worst. Not much sympathy for them even after all this time. I was in the Philippines in the ’80’s and even then the people there still distrusted the Japanese. The Japanese were considered the same way as the Ugly Americans. Media was full of Japanese investor delegations coming there full of promises. The Japanese would make statements like ‘in another 10 years we will be strong enough economically that we won’t need the Americans anymore’. All this was prior to the real estate collapse in Japan.
The Chinese are strutting their stuff which should be expected. They have been more restrained than I would have thought, all considered.
and your type of attitude may just bring about the need for war, prevention is better than war, Europe and N America have enough financial clout to make the Chinese sit up and take notice, especially for the next few years as the Chinese are about to hit financial/production hard time. Just boycott for 6 months and see what happens
And if there’s a “need for war”, between China and Japan over their rock piles, why in hell should WE get involved?
If, as “d-o” says above,the islands were discovered by the Chinese, why should we back Japan? Sounds to me like China is the rightful owner, it may say so in an ancient book somewhere.
YOUR type of attitude,that we western white democracies have to tell everyone else on the planet how to conduct them selves,is getting a bit thin and old considering the f***ups we’ve committed since the 1950’s,I won’t bother with the list,we all know them well.
My point is; this is China’s and Japan’s little fight,and Japan has some nerve asking the rest of the world to back THEM, when they may very well have no claim to the islands at all. Maybe this is just more of Japan’s infamous aggressiveness.
China doesn’t forget the atrocities laid on it like we would a generation or two later.
No disrespect to Yamaha, love a fast bike, but the rape of Nanking and Unit 731 would stick in my craw for awhile longer than it would a Liberal pothead’s as well.
It was never a question of whether China would eventually make incursions on Japan … only when and how long it would take.
Between the coal burning/manufacturing heavy metal, particulate and SO, SO2, NO2 pollution in China and the Fukushima derived radioactive Japan currently polluting the Pacific Ocean, they both need a slap upside the head.
The effects of both, dumped into the Pacific and spewed into the air we breathe downwind and increasingly exported into our grocery stores, already affects far more people that some pecker-measuring, ninja war between the two over a couple of rock piles in the South China Sea, or a coalition of them, we don’t need.
I wouldn’t eat anything imported from China, or fished, or farmed anywhere out of the Pacific Ocean right now, or in the future. Not for fifty years. The planet will heal itself eventually, but it will do it sans people if these two, or a coalition of them go at it over these rock piles. If they don’t clean up their act on either issue, prior to a nuclear exchange, the results will be almost the same as having one.
I went hiking with a Chinese friend of mine a couple years back and got on the discussion of Chinese Japanese relations. I spent the next hour listening to how much they still hate the Japanese for what they did in the 30’s and 40’s. He made it sound like the Chinese were just waiting for a reason to reclaim their honor and hit back at Japan themselves.
The only glitch here is the US defense treaty with Japan. The Chinese could use getting rid of some of there excess males and when there economy tanks they may even want to use the old US stimulus plan of going to war. The only thing holding then back maybe their inability to calculate a US response. Of course who really thinks Obama would go nuclear on anyone.
Sell the Japanese a couple of aircraft carriers and some carrier air wings. They know what to do with them…
The same Chinese who have murdered their own people in the millions are furious that the Japanese did that to them on a smaller scale. Horrible but the kettle is calling the pot black. Even if an apology were forthcoming (and it should come), would the Chinese be magnanimous and accept Japan’s apology? I doubt it. It would kill China in the eyes of the international community if Japan DID apologise without reservation but I don’t think it would stop China from its belligerent actions.
This is a bit of sabre-rattling, is my point. China will use any excuse to get control over the islands and will even start a war.
I’ll side with Japan in this fight. Definitely, Japan should drop the “saving face” and admit to its atrocities at Nanking and elsewhere in the 1930s. But the current China was founded by, when all the numbers are tallied, the probable biggest mass murderer in human history, and until they lose their enthusiasm for him, there is no reason the rest of us should press Japan.
“Japan should drop the “saving face” and admit to its atrocities at Nanking and elsewhere in the 1930s.”
Bingo, at this point it would be saving @ss. That’s the biggest problem for Japan, they have not only NOT apologized or made amends, they’ve smugly thumbed their noses at China in a variety of ways.
Subtly and not so subtly, with Big Bro USA having their back.
I’m not defending China, I agree with Osumashi Kinyobe that it’s the pot calling the kettle black, nevertheless stupid is what stupid does.
Well if you think japan will ever admit it’s atrocities in nankin…just remember there was a Japanese man recently found in the guini forest’s for 30 years because he refused to surrender. I don’t think japan will ever admit to that , having said that china is a brutal savage nation with no regards or respect for human life, I will not fight on either side. I will as a Canadian sit this one out …regardless. And no I will not supply either country’s war efforts should one break out..over some stupid islands ..there is a bigger issue here and we all know it.