Y2Kyoto: Follow That Model!

17 Replies to “Y2Kyoto: Follow That Model!”

1. A perfect consensus.
   100% of climate models are wrong, they don’t predict what is actually happening.
   Just think of the hundreds of $Billions of taxpayer funds that have been flushed down the Great Greenie Gaia Crapper in pursuit of enviro nutter fairy tales, all in the name of climate Scientology.
   Think of the good that money could have made happen.

2. I don’t understand the problem, the models say what everyone knows is true.
   Data is just data, it must be massaged until it becomes true.
   After all, if we could just rely on the data and fit a straight line then of what use would all the Phds and research grants be? They wouldn’t have a job and then would have to sit next to the occupy crowd in their protest camps, which as we all know, isn’t the cleanest or even safest place to be.
   Please, before you keep criticsing these people – please be aware that there isn’t really any other work that they could do?
   /sarc off

3. The problem with computer weather/climate modeling (and the dopes who put faith in it)is the model charts predictable/probable trends – unfortunately weather and climate make unpredictable changes – it is what scientists, statisticians and engineers call an “episodic” process. For those who have any schooling or practical knowledge in statistical process control, making probability trend charts with data sets gathered from episodic source points yields a predictability error margin so wide it is virtually useless – but the climate brain-trust seem to have no formal schooling or ethical compunction towards accurate statistical analysis.

4. Occam
   bang on with your post, butt it will fly rite over the mathematically challenge lefties

5. These past projections are consistently higher than real-world temp data because the projections reflect the biases of their creators. Why should we be surprised? They are created by people riding the global warming financial gravy train. Why risk the cash flow by being truthful?

6. For real fun, throw in the error bars. They’re HUGE.

7. According to the Avg datasets for 2010,
   it was the same as the year 1975.
   That was one of the coldest winters I can remember,
   Snow stayed on the ground in Boone NC from Sept. 1975 until April 1976.
   The Climate Alarm Preachers were having snake handling revivals and screaming about the coming of the NEW ICE AGE.
   If we all lived according to that ‘faked but accurate’ hokey stick,
   Britain would be growing coconut and mango trees.
   ps-
   Obama if you are reading this- kiss my ass..

8. Two trends diverged in a chart, and I —
   I took the one less travelled by,
   and that has made all the difference.

9. A quote that’s been making the rounds lately:
   ”It doesn’t matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn’t matter how smart you are. If it doesn’t agree with experiment, it’s wrong.”
   —Richard Feynman
   I’m not sure how anyone can look at the difference between model projections and real life observations and not conclude that the beautiful CAGW models have failed. But how could such smart guys, Top Men, be wrong. Good question and one journalists should be asking…if they can pull themselves away from the video Guido is showing them in the backseat of his black and tan Chevy. I guess if you are naive enough to trust what drug dealers told your brunch buddies you’re probably not going to question climate consensus and the political policies based on faulty models.

10. The problem with models is that it is impossible to predict anything as chaotic as weather and climate…..Nature is the ultimate random # generator.
    The other problem with climate models is that they are not about climate but about politics and the NWO.

11. “But I have a crystal ball” they cry.
    We can predict the future to 0.001 of a degree.
    Give us all your money.
    Berni Madoff is in jail. What makes his behaviour different to these climate castrophists?

12. john Robertson
    Berni Made-off with your money
    these scammers are still Making-off with your money
    see the difference:-))))

13. Well, that takes care of global warming. Any scientifically literate person, even without a knowledge of statistics, can plainly see that.

14. The political corollary to Feynman’s quote:
    ”It doesn’t matter how beautiful the theory is, it doesn’t matter how smart the scientists are. If it is being pushed by unions and government as a reason for hiking your taxes and controlling the way you live, it’s wrong.”

15. Funny. But your version hints at the other big problem with CAGW – you can believe in AGW (lukewarm or wholeheartedly) but not the catastrophic part. You can even believe in dangerous warming but still oppose the political, social and economic policies that are being proposed. Yet this is how the science is being presented – a universal consensus of both the science and the politics.

16. There has been no sense to the furor. Freeman Dyson, who believes or
    believed in warming said that the first thing to decide was whether
    it was good or not; the Greenlanders he talked to were convinced it was
    a good thing. The “Skeptical Environmentalist” Bjorn Lomborg maintains that AGW is true
    and a bad thing, but proposes remedies which are radically different from
    extreme CO2 reduction and cap and trade. And so it goes.

17. Wow look at that, some kid in grade school using a simple sine wave is more likely to be correct than all the high priced tall foreheads in academe.