50 Replies to “Y2Kyoto: Happy New Year!”

  1. If 4.5 billion people die this year because of global warming won’t that help us reduce our carbon footprint as an earthly species?
    Just saying.

  2. at 1 hr 15 mins
    9700 births…. 3000 abortions.
    almost 1 in 4 conceptions is aborted?? That seems kinda high to me.

  3. What crap. The whole concept of “greenhouse gases” was attacked on WUWT a few days ago with an article that suggested the atmospheric heat engine serves primarily to cool the planet. There are a few bugs to be sorted out in this new theory such as ice ages, but I worry a lot more about global cooling than warming. If people were truly concerned about global warming then they’d all be flocking to the arctic for their holidays rather than those deadly high temperature tropical locations that Canadians swarm to in a lemming like fashion every winter. I’m sure a good fraction of the 4.5 billion people that are going to die in the next 42 minutes will be found among the tourists heading south.
    Now my shop should have warmed up enough that I can head out there and celebrate the new years arrival in front of a wood stove with some champagne. Happy new year to the whole SDA crew.

  4. My tipping point will hit in, uh, about 23 minutes. Existentially, I really DO feel my unstable clathrates warming, just a touch.
    John Stokes could do standup comedy on this stuff!

  5. Loki
    I heat with a wood stove….
    I can pick the climate I prefer….
    The wood stove makes me real popular on cold days with kids and dogs….and other old guys…..
    That Bravo Sierra about permafrost melting(melting cathrates) is just that….Bravo Sierra.
    Since the older Dryas (early holocene…this inter glacial) there was an un-named warming then a cold snap then the roman warming that took out the Toltecs then the cold dark ages then the medieval warming that took out the Greenland vikings and the Mayans…..all those warmings were warmer than this currrent warming….and yet the tipping point didn’t tip and the damn poley bears are still with us….
    BTW the Mayan calander was circular….it ends in 2012 because they just ran outa space to write on……..
    Happy New Year to all…a toast:
    to absent comrades….

  6. Loki
    I worry a lot more about global cooling than warming
    Exactly. Canada could survive tropical temperatures way better than an ice age. The assumption that warming would create inhospitable climates is more guesswork and fiction. Higher temperature means more water evaporation and maybe a greener and cooler Sahara with more rain.

  7. then the medieval warming that took out the Greenland vikings
    …well, actually it was the Little Ice Age following that warming that caused the failure of the Viking colonies in Greenland and North America.
    The warming cycles about every 1000 years all produced expansion of civilizations, Minoan, Roman, Norse. It was the cooling cycles that followed the warming that did them in.
    If burning fossil fuels delays the next cooling cycle then I’m all for it.

  8. Yeah, I heat the house with a woodstove too. It’s real easy to be as comfortable as I want.

  9. If 4.5 billion people die this year because of global warming or whatever, it will give us a sustainable population.
    It’s -30 outside, I’m not the least bit worried about global warming.

  10. Odd how all these potential catastrophes always happen in areas far
    off the beaten track and are then only normally accessed by the select
    few with first class seats on the Globull Warming grants gravy train.

  11. I can hear all that oil being sucked out of the ground in Canada.
    Those poor chickens..
    Spinach for Sunday dinner.

  12. Gosh how far away 2012 must have seemed when this was written in 2007. Not far enough, obviously.
    Look, if you are in the prognostication business you have to cast your predictions far enough in the future that you won’t be around to answer for them. Alternatively, you can do what Nostradamus did — make them so obscure that you can claim to be right no matter what happens.
    But we do understand the dilemma of the warmies. They want action now. So the threat has to be dire and immediate. The lame stream media likes it that way, too.

  13. I notice AIDS is placed at the very top of the list of diseases, despite the fact that it’s now relatively treatable and was always pretty far down the list of fatal diseases for human beings. Methinks there’s some political correctness involved with this “clock”.

  14. Umm I’m rendered comment less, by the pretense and assumptions of that article.
    Remember when you Ass Umes you make an Ass out of U and Me.
    And my carbon taxed furnace keeps me warm, beats the heck out of camping (trust me I just did 2 days worth….
    New Years Resolution, keep fighting the good fight.
    O and HAPPY NEW YEAR Kate and SDA Regulars, may 2012 be a better one. (That’s what we’re planning)
    Even if we have to drag the rest of the world kicking and screaming into it.
    dwright
    [out]

  15. “it is an existencial turning point in your life.”
    Never make predictions that you can’t spell correctly.

  16. I’ve a whole busload of resolutions that I was going to implement to make the world a better place,but what’s the use if most of us will be dead anyways.
    Time for a smoke and drink. Happy New Years to all.

  17. Just returning to the evil empire – Alberta – after spending xmas in Southern California. What a dump this place has become. Nobody is doing anything.
    2012 prediction most the world will be worse off in 12 months then they are now. Canada will fare better only because of Alberta and Sask.
    The 2012 prediction was correct not on the end of the world but the end of the socialist utopia. 2012 will suck to be almost everyone.

  18. The same ideological “moroons” who brought that nonsense are still busy flogging their scam.
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/fracking-wastewater-might-have-caused-ohio-quake/article2288282/
    But there is good news in Europe. The apparatchiks are gravely concerned. It would be nice to see the two Eurocrats in the photo dumped into the dustbin of history.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/8986379/Europe-cannot-save-the-euro-nor-save-itself-from-the-euro.html

  19. The view of bible scholars I trust is that Jesus was born shortly before the death of Herod the Great in 4 BC. There aren’t any real dissenters to this I imagine since the death of Herod is historical fact as is the birth of Christ.
    So, let’s put the 2012 Mayan calendar to rest for now.
    Doing the math, we could be at the beginnng of the 7 yr tribulation and if that won’t make this year a more hopeful one, then I don’t know what will. That is, of course, if your interpretation of the Bible re these times makes you a pre-trib believer.
    HNY

  20. Happy New Year small dead animals! Kate: keep on keeping on.
    BTW: I/m certain the global government/climate freaks/eco-Nazis like SooooZoook ill cream their panty hose over this death toll counter spinning so fast, but there still aren’t enough of us dying off quickly enough for them to see their green utopia.
    I resolve this year to take better care of myself so I can cheat their estimated life span planning and give them a pain in the ass with my long term continued existence.

  21. North of 60
    I am gratified you are paying attention.
    I spliced the main-brace…New Years y’know….no hangover but my eyes are buring a mite.
    Declining health enjoined wood cuttting last winter, so I had to endure the un-enduable….buy fire-wood. I know this fella with a splitter than rips up 15′ X 5′ logs…..so they can be dealt with by his wood processor. He delivered in August at a discount and it’s working out just fine. Beginning in September, I first burned a cord of limb wood(not sticks) from about the yard…then started on the good stuff…viva la difference……oak, maple, walnut, ash, beech…all heart wood….at the price of soggy slab-wood…or limb wood.
    Actually I noted a while back that the Mayans collapsed during the Medieval Warming due to a lengthly drought but the Toltecs appear to have failed about 800AD…the onset of that same Medieval Warming….the end of which coincided with the failure of the Greenland Vikings….the Chin dynasty(Mongols),the closing of the silk road.
    The dark age cooling ruined the Romans crops and drove the barbarian hordes from central asia into Europe….greener pastures literally.
    Christianity, decadence and lead pipes were likely minor issues.
    Regional climate is a funny(queer) thing. During the last ice age…the Sahara was green. During the Little Ice Age the great plains were termed the great American desert.
    Drill baby drill…..
    gellen
    The documented death of Herod in 12 BC probably means the bishops at the Council Of Nicea got the date of the nativity wrong….year and month…the absence of any record of the murder of the innocents..is likely an indication that the tales of the nativity are likely inspired fantasy. Which don’t really change nothing IMHO!
    regards…..

  22. It shows US debt clock at $14.6 billion just now but the debt passed $15.2 billion last week, so odds are the other numbers are off as well.

  23. Interesting, under Energy, that they have 4 forms of energy generation, Hydro, Nuclear, the oddly-designated ‘Thermal'(presumably coal, the source that dare not speak its name) and Renewables … and after all the billions we’ve spewed away on them, renewables is such a pathetic last-runner. Steven den Beste was right, they simply aren’t scalable, however wishful the greenies might be. And look at the proportion for ‘thermal’ among the four, as well.

  24. With such dire predictions, and this being week 17 of the NFL playoffs, i only hope i can survive until the end of the day!

  25. In the environment tab, click the “?” button under temperature for an interesting disclaimer. Basically, observations contradict predictions of rising temperatures, but a lot of people are still predicting increasing temperatures, so a modest increase is shown.

  26. LOL, no more oil is being discovered or becoming economically / technically feasible. Reserves are decreasing at the rate of extraction.

  27. Odd. I decided to go to the Comments page on that website, just to see what the loons were saying, and I got a screen saying that my computer’s security system considered it to be an “attack site”.
    True enough, I suppose. Most of the people here would be attacked if they dared utter the heresies seen above.
    But I do wonder what it is about that particular site’s comment page that prompts such a warning …

  28. Walter, I noticed the “?” also… this is how the gullible will backtrack when Gorebull warming is finally discredited. They will forget the hystrionics they’ve been proclaiming for years and say, ‘well the scientists were wrong and we were just trusting them and following…’. It’s like trying to find anyone who voted Bob Rae for Ontario Premier…

  29. “Fracking wastewater might have caused Ohio quake”
    I better hang on in Alberta. Gas well fracking is routine and I’m still waiting for my first personally detectable quake. They sure hire some idiots at the Globe and Mail.
    Ohio regularly has earthquakes. Here are hundreds of them.
    http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/tabid/8302/Default.aspx
    Why is there an assumption that although the past ones are natural this one is man made by a current hot button political issue? Coincidence?

  30. Why don’t they take on the most dangerous of all greenhouse gases, water vapor? We could put lids on large bodies of water. I’m not worried about global frying, we can always eradicate the planets Boreal forests for the quick fix.

  31. Let’s see:
    6.3 billion in the world today; if 4.2 billion die this year, then Global Warming/Climate Change is solved – as well as many other problems.
    Good thing we are in Canada – where we supposeably produce about 2% of Green house gases. Best and safest place to be in the world.
    And lets not forget that we will bt indulged with the “Prophets of Fear and Destruction” concerning the end of the world on Dec 22, 2012. … as soon as a date is given, I know we are safe until then.
    NOTE: Happy New Year on Dec 23, 2012

  32. Maybe the leftists have a secret plan to take over worldwide, and kill off everybody not pledging allegiance to the cult of Global Warming….or taking the mark? Then those deaths could be attributed to ‘Global Warming’.
    Just saying, but Suzuki has already threaten to jail those who don’t agree with him, and he has stated his (windbag) wishes to kill off opponents as well.
    Sounds like nonsense, sure, but, so is global warming, and not so long ago, the thought of a US president elect being a Marxist/Socialist was beyond consideration

  33. at 1 hr 15 mins
    9700 births…. 3000 abortions.
    almost 1 in 4 conceptions is aborted?? That seems kinda high to me.

  34. almost 1 in 4 conceptions is aborted?? That seems kinda high to me.

    I can’t recall if it’s all of Canada or just Quebec from a few years ago but it’s more than 30% in Canada/Quebec. Just remember that we were told in the ’60s that abortion would never be used as birth control.

  35. I noticed that there are 27 “extinctions” in the first 17 hours of this year. Unless there’s a reason why more species become extinct on New Year’s Day, this averages out to about 10,000 extinctions this year. With only 1.7 million species on the planet, this only gives us 170 years before everything is gone – surely one of the most pessimistic prognostications, if you don’t count loony religions or Mayans.
    This is one of the things that puzzles me about evolution. According to Darwin, evolution is a continuous process. Where are all the new species? (And I’m not interested in new species created by scientists by genetic manipulation in the lab; I’m talking about “natural selection”.)
    I find it hard to believe in an omnipotent, all seeing, benevolent god. However, I don’t find it hard to believe that in the vastness of the universe, we are not the pinnacle of achievement. The fact that we might be some kind of galactic Petri dish, occasionally inspected (and interfered with) by an outside source seems to me to be at least as credible as evolution, which seems to have stopped working as soon as it was discovered.

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