Hillel Neuer of UN Watch interrupts the latest UN hate-fest with some pesky facts:
23 Replies to “A humanitarian state of mind”
These flotillas are just the old Palistinian practice of using ambulances and UN Aid vehicles to transport terrorists/weapons in the occupied territories, but on a larger scale and as a propaganda tool.
If Palestine was a state and were openly at war with Israel, these practices would be recognized as war crimes on the part of Palestinians and their enablers.
The UN is worse than a joke. It is a place that a privileged class of faux democratic parasites from small nations that do not deserve letterhead much less a vote at the UN can be bought out by the Organization of Muslin states to persecute the west in general and Israel in particular. I wish the Canada would as its first move get rid of the CBC and as its second move leave the UN at least until such time as it stops being a cesspool of hate and hypocrisy.
well, well . . a Human Rights NGO that makes sense.
Never thought would happen.
But then who should we believe, this guy or the nations like Libya, Iran, Saudi Arabia & Sudan – all paragons of Human Rights of course, without a vested interest in the destruction of Israel and Jews.
Israel is the only modern successful country in the Middle East. The oil sheikdoms look modern but that is only because they can buy the trappings of modernty.
Israel, without any natural resources, relying on the hard work, creativity and diligence of its people is successful and democratic.
And the leftoids everywhere support the jihadis who want to exterminate Israel & its people.
Our lovely leftoids . . travelers on the hate highway, useful fools, pathetic examples of human gullibility, purveyors of hate masked as good intentions.
What a pathetic bunch of losers.
.
I don’t blog so thank God Kate does – and does it so well. But I do like to keep myself and a small group of friends up on what’s happening beneath the waves, so I send them items like this one.
You may have been following the ‘Gaza peace flotilla’ story in the news lately and noted that as usual, it has become a propaganda tool. Depending on your outlook, you may feel it is being used by one side or the other – or perhaps both. I stand firmly on the side of Israel.
But what I find interesting, is the ‘solidarity’ between western activists and the palestinians, as represented by Hamas. Leftists claim the moral high ground of tolerance and human rights – including full equality of women, access to abortion, acceptance of homosexuality, plurality of opinion and individual liberty. Yet Hamas believes in none of these values. Their only commonality is a dislike (lefitsts) or even hatred (Hamas) of western liberal values and the capitalist system.
From the New York Post: “A memo written by Mohamed Akram, US based head of the Muslim Brotherhood wrote, “The Ikhwan (Arabic for ‘brothers’) must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and sabotaging its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions.” http://tinyurl.com/2exn5mm
Examples of these pawns are Richard Falk, who describes himself as “”assimilationist Jewish with a virtual denial of even the ethnic side of Jewishness,” – He is a former advisory board member of the World Federalist Institute[9] and the American Movement for World Government. His position as a Professor Emeritus of Int’l Law AND a Jew, makes him extremely useful as a propaganda tool.
And Norman Finklestein one of the ‘activists’ aboard the Marmava, is a political scientist and another self-loathing Jew. Finkelstein’s parents both survived the Warsaw Ghetto and the Nazis: “Finkelstein’s parents, particularly his mother, had communist leanings, although they never officially belonged to any ideological movement.”
So what do all of the leftist supporters of Palestine – and by extension, Hamas – have in common? Despite western liberal education, they all believe that democracy and capitalism is a greater threat than that of fundamentalist Islam and that through an alliance with Islam, they can replace capitalism with communism and then somehow, get along with or eventually deal with their Islamist partners.
‘Useful idiots’ being used as pawns by Islamists to subvert not only their own culture but their own core values and they don’t even realize it. Their only commonality is a love for authoritarian gov’t and a hatred of that most western of human values: individual liberty.
This link will take you to the “The Muslim Brotherhood’S Offical English Website”
IKWANWEB.COM http://www.ikhwanweb.com/video.php?id=64
It’s the real deal. It lets you hear for yourself, from the very mouths of these guys, Richard Falk and Norman Finklestein, the position of the left in relation to the Gaza boarding event. These guys don’t hate Israel because it’s Jewish, they hate it because it’s a democratic state with strong captialist ties to the west.
There’s a propaganda war going on and I hope that like me, you want to be informed.
Looks like unwatch.org is under DoS
The UN is a laughably compromised organization. If the truth mattered at all, those statements made by member states would be identified as being worth less than nothing. Cuba described Israeli soldiers’ actions on the flotilla an “indiscriminate massacre” – a completely ridiculous, laughable accusation – and Nicaragua called Israel an “inhuman occupying power.”
You can pretty much replace any of the statements from Israel’s critics at the UN with “they’re Jews.”
In light of the immutable essential nature of Israel’s opponents, I find it amazing that our opposition parties here in Canada would criticize the Prime Minister for “taking sides” with Israel.
Should he side with Hamas? With Nicaragua? Qatar? Cuba? Saudi Arabia?
Countries like Libya and Saudi Arabia really have no credibility in terms of human rights. Most of those autocratic Middle-Eastern countries just use the Israeli issue to stoke the passions of their people as a way to avoid democratizing and dealing with corruption.
Still, an independent inquiry into the flotilla business is needed. If Israel and the U.S. avoid one this will continue to fester.
I agree with your first sentence, Ishmael, but I disagree about the need for an inquiry. Israel has a perfectly legitimate reason to enforce a naval blockade – you can’t have ships sailing freely into Gaza with “supplies,” especially when Israel offers to transport (legitimate) aid (foodstuffs, etc) from such a ship into Gaza after inspection. And more to the point, the video shows clearly that Israeli soldiers, who did NOT initiate any kind of attack on the “humanitarians” on board, were immediately set upon by a club-wielding mob. What’s to inquire about?
Why can’t they just transport the goods through Egypt we wonder.
Probably because what they are transporting Egypt doesn’t want them to have either.
EBD: It’s true, Israel can make a case for having boarded the ship. However, there are conflicting reports about what exactly happened on the Mavi Marmara and so far the Israelis have only released footage that supports their case; they are still in possession of recordings made by the journalists and activists on board, which may contradict the Israeli version of events. The point is that it’s still too early to say one way or the other and an independent inquiry would hopefully settle that question.
Also, seeing as Israel is diplomatically isolated as a result of the incident, an inquiry would at the least garner some goodwill from the international community and at best, exonerate them.
dinosaur: I read an interesting article in the Christian Science Monitor (I think) that talked about why Egypt was enforcing the blockade. Apparently the old dictator Hosni Mubarak hopes that if he plays nice with Israel, the U.S. will let him pass power to his son.
EyeWideShut
Agree with actions recommended but disagree on the order. I would hold off on the elimination of the CBC until first getting out of the UN just so you could enjoy the squeals of outrage from Mothercorp. After they loose their voices, announce the closure of all CBC facilities preferably on Christmas eve. Oh, to dream…..
No Guff, you might find this interesting- http://tinyurl.com/2d7acmm
an excerpt:
“The terms “Right” and “Left” as used in Israel are misleading: they do not denote a socio-economic position (as they do elsewhere, especially in Europe). They denote attitude to Israeli policy towards Palestinians, towards war and peace.
I will avoid this confusing usage. I will talk not about “left” but about socialism.
My theme is the correlation — if you like, the dialectical relation — between the struggle for socialism and the struggle against Zionism.”
by Moshà Machover
We need to cut of the money supply to these trough hogs.
Stop funding the UN … period.
A beautiful response.
Agree with OMMAG, too; stop funding the UN. Bulldoze the structures into the East River and put the Israeli embassy on the land. 🙂
“garner some goodwill from the international community”
I’d say you’re about ten years too late with that. There is no action, no statement, no inquiry that will change the minds of most Israel haters.
How many emergency meetings were called when North Korea killed 46 South Korean sailors? How many committees were set up to stop the sexual slavery of North Korean women or stop forced abortions of Chinese and North Korean unborn babies? When will Kim Jong-Il go to the Hague for his many, many crimes against humanity?
As one can see, there are far more pressing matters than Israel’s right to exist despite the Islamic nations.
Israel is not always the most cooperative among nations but then, it is in a unique position. It has been threatened by its surrounding nations since its rather bloody beginning and has reason to be nervous of most of the rest of the world and especially those who are seen as enemies to the free-world in general. They are a “stiff-necked people” and it would be unwise, no stupid, to advance towards her when advised not to. These are the People of the Book and, like it or not, demand deference.
ishmael suggested at 5:58 the Israelis “are still in possession of recordings made by the journalists and activists on board, which may contradict the Israeli version of events”.
FoxNews has shown at least one clip of the incident that must have been taken by someone on board the ship. This clip shows the stun grenades being thrown down at what appears to be an Israeli LST or troop landing ship.
Mark Peters @ 7:31 PM: “stop funding the UN. Bulldoze the structures into the East River and put the Israeli embassy on the land.”
============================
Thank you. That thought soothes. Hopefully I will dream about it tonight.
Speaking of “recordings made by the journalists and activists on board”, I noticed that Press TV, the official Iranian Mad Mullah’s mouth piece is up in arms about some of their footage being used without their permission.
Busted!!
When you read the majority of news reports and commentators it is easy to understand why Israel is “jumpy”.
Any country in the same position would be acting the same.
These flotillas are just the old Palistinian practice of using ambulances and UN Aid vehicles to transport terrorists/weapons in the occupied territories, but on a larger scale and as a propaganda tool.
If Palestine was a state and were openly at war with Israel, these practices would be recognized as war crimes on the part of Palestinians and their enablers.
The UN is worse than a joke. It is a place that a privileged class of faux democratic parasites from small nations that do not deserve letterhead much less a vote at the UN can be bought out by the Organization of Muslin states to persecute the west in general and Israel in particular. I wish the Canada would as its first move get rid of the CBC and as its second move leave the UN at least until such time as it stops being a cesspool of hate and hypocrisy.
well, well . . a Human Rights NGO that makes sense.
Never thought would happen.
But then who should we believe, this guy or the nations like Libya, Iran, Saudi Arabia & Sudan – all paragons of Human Rights of course, without a vested interest in the destruction of Israel and Jews.
Israel is the only modern successful country in the Middle East. The oil sheikdoms look modern but that is only because they can buy the trappings of modernty.
Israel, without any natural resources, relying on the hard work, creativity and diligence of its people is successful and democratic.
And the leftoids everywhere support the jihadis who want to exterminate Israel & its people.
Our lovely leftoids . . travelers on the hate highway, useful fools, pathetic examples of human gullibility, purveyors of hate masked as good intentions.
What a pathetic bunch of losers.
.
I don’t blog so thank God Kate does – and does it so well. But I do like to keep myself and a small group of friends up on what’s happening beneath the waves, so I send them items like this one.
You may have been following the ‘Gaza peace flotilla’ story in the news lately and noted that as usual, it has become a propaganda tool. Depending on your outlook, you may feel it is being used by one side or the other – or perhaps both. I stand firmly on the side of Israel.
But what I find interesting, is the ‘solidarity’ between western activists and the palestinians, as represented by Hamas. Leftists claim the moral high ground of tolerance and human rights – including full equality of women, access to abortion, acceptance of homosexuality, plurality of opinion and individual liberty. Yet Hamas believes in none of these values. Their only commonality is a dislike (lefitsts) or even hatred (Hamas) of western liberal values and the capitalist system.
From the New York Post: “A memo written by Mohamed Akram, US based head of the Muslim Brotherhood wrote, “The Ikhwan (Arabic for ‘brothers’) must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and sabotaging its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions.”
http://tinyurl.com/2exn5mm
Examples of these pawns are Richard Falk, who describes himself as “”assimilationist Jewish with a virtual denial of even the ethnic side of Jewishness,” – He is a former advisory board member of the World Federalist Institute[9] and the American Movement for World Government. His position as a Professor Emeritus of Int’l Law AND a Jew, makes him extremely useful as a propaganda tool.
And Norman Finklestein one of the ‘activists’ aboard the Marmava, is a political scientist and another self-loathing Jew. Finkelstein’s parents both survived the Warsaw Ghetto and the Nazis: “Finkelstein’s parents, particularly his mother, had communist leanings, although they never officially belonged to any ideological movement.”
So what do all of the leftist supporters of Palestine – and by extension, Hamas – have in common? Despite western liberal education, they all believe that democracy and capitalism is a greater threat than that of fundamentalist Islam and that through an alliance with Islam, they can replace capitalism with communism and then somehow, get along with or eventually deal with their Islamist partners.
‘Useful idiots’ being used as pawns by Islamists to subvert not only their own culture but their own core values and they don’t even realize it. Their only commonality is a love for authoritarian gov’t and a hatred of that most western of human values: individual liberty.
This link will take you to the “The Muslim Brotherhood’S Offical English Website”
IKWANWEB.COM
http://www.ikhwanweb.com/video.php?id=64
It’s the real deal. It lets you hear for yourself, from the very mouths of these guys, Richard Falk and Norman Finklestein, the position of the left in relation to the Gaza boarding event. These guys don’t hate Israel because it’s Jewish, they hate it because it’s a democratic state with strong captialist ties to the west.
There’s a propaganda war going on and I hope that like me, you want to be informed.
Looks like unwatch.org is under DoS
The UN is a laughably compromised organization. If the truth mattered at all, those statements made by member states would be identified as being worth less than nothing. Cuba described Israeli soldiers’ actions on the flotilla an “indiscriminate massacre” – a completely ridiculous, laughable accusation – and Nicaragua called Israel an “inhuman occupying power.”
You can pretty much replace any of the statements from Israel’s critics at the UN with “they’re Jews.”
In light of the immutable essential nature of Israel’s opponents, I find it amazing that our opposition parties here in Canada would criticize the Prime Minister for “taking sides” with Israel.
Should he side with Hamas? With Nicaragua? Qatar? Cuba? Saudi Arabia?
Countries like Libya and Saudi Arabia really have no credibility in terms of human rights. Most of those autocratic Middle-Eastern countries just use the Israeli issue to stoke the passions of their people as a way to avoid democratizing and dealing with corruption.
Still, an independent inquiry into the flotilla business is needed. If Israel and the U.S. avoid one this will continue to fester.
I agree with your first sentence, Ishmael, but I disagree about the need for an inquiry. Israel has a perfectly legitimate reason to enforce a naval blockade – you can’t have ships sailing freely into Gaza with “supplies,” especially when Israel offers to transport (legitimate) aid (foodstuffs, etc) from such a ship into Gaza after inspection. And more to the point, the video shows clearly that Israeli soldiers, who did NOT initiate any kind of attack on the “humanitarians” on board, were immediately set upon by a club-wielding mob. What’s to inquire about?
Why can’t they just transport the goods through Egypt we wonder.
Probably because what they are transporting Egypt doesn’t want them to have either.
EBD: It’s true, Israel can make a case for having boarded the ship. However, there are conflicting reports about what exactly happened on the Mavi Marmara and so far the Israelis have only released footage that supports their case; they are still in possession of recordings made by the journalists and activists on board, which may contradict the Israeli version of events. The point is that it’s still too early to say one way or the other and an independent inquiry would hopefully settle that question.
Also, seeing as Israel is diplomatically isolated as a result of the incident, an inquiry would at the least garner some goodwill from the international community and at best, exonerate them.
dinosaur: I read an interesting article in the Christian Science Monitor (I think) that talked about why Egypt was enforcing the blockade. Apparently the old dictator Hosni Mubarak hopes that if he plays nice with Israel, the U.S. will let him pass power to his son.
EyeWideShut
Agree with actions recommended but disagree on the order. I would hold off on the elimination of the CBC until first getting out of the UN just so you could enjoy the squeals of outrage from Mothercorp. After they loose their voices, announce the closure of all CBC facilities preferably on Christmas eve. Oh, to dream…..
No Guff, you might find this interesting-
http://tinyurl.com/2d7acmm
an excerpt:
“The terms “Right” and “Left” as used in Israel are misleading: they do not denote a socio-economic position (as they do elsewhere, especially in Europe). They denote attitude to Israeli policy towards Palestinians, towards war and peace.
I will avoid this confusing usage. I will talk not about “left” but about socialism.
My theme is the correlation — if you like, the dialectical relation — between the struggle for socialism and the struggle against Zionism.”
by Moshà Machover
We need to cut of the money supply to these trough hogs.
Stop funding the UN … period.
A beautiful response.
Agree with OMMAG, too; stop funding the UN. Bulldoze the structures into the East River and put the Israeli embassy on the land. 🙂
“garner some goodwill from the international community”
I’d say you’re about ten years too late with that. There is no action, no statement, no inquiry that will change the minds of most Israel haters.
How many emergency meetings were called when North Korea killed 46 South Korean sailors? How many committees were set up to stop the sexual slavery of North Korean women or stop forced abortions of Chinese and North Korean unborn babies? When will Kim Jong-Il go to the Hague for his many, many crimes against humanity?
As one can see, there are far more pressing matters than Israel’s right to exist despite the Islamic nations.
What we need is a benefit concert for the flotilla people…. oh wait they have done it already.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOGG_osOoVg&feature=player_embedded
Israel is not always the most cooperative among nations but then, it is in a unique position. It has been threatened by its surrounding nations since its rather bloody beginning and has reason to be nervous of most of the rest of the world and especially those who are seen as enemies to the free-world in general. They are a “stiff-necked people” and it would be unwise, no stupid, to advance towards her when advised not to. These are the People of the Book and, like it or not, demand deference.
ishmael suggested at 5:58 the Israelis “are still in possession of recordings made by the journalists and activists on board, which may contradict the Israeli version of events”.
FoxNews has shown at least one clip of the incident that must have been taken by someone on board the ship. This clip shows the stun grenades being thrown down at what appears to be an Israeli LST or troop landing ship.
Mark Peters @ 7:31 PM: “stop funding the UN. Bulldoze the structures into the East River and put the Israeli embassy on the land.”
============================
Thank you. That thought soothes. Hopefully I will dream about it tonight.
Speaking of “recordings made by the journalists and activists on board”, I noticed that Press TV, the official Iranian Mad Mullah’s mouth piece is up in arms about some of their footage being used without their permission.
Busted!!
When you read the majority of news reports and commentators it is easy to understand why Israel is “jumpy”.
Any country in the same position would be acting the same.