I received these charts by “Rod B.” via email – It just makes me wonder why CBC and CTV (Mr Craig Oliver) keep referring to the “Western Conservatives”, or the “Alberta Conservatives” … and in their next breath say that Harper is the one causing division in this country?
Why? For the same reason they’re studiously ignoring their own polling results indicating the Liberals have been hit hard by the coalition scheme – the facts don’t fit the narrative.
Has the sordid coalition achieved its objectives? Read and answer the questions posed below, and be a hero!!
http://burpnrun.blogspot.com/2008/12/how-many-objectives-has-coalition.html
PM Harper was interviewed by Mansbridge today.
After reading the comments on CBC.ca apparently our Prime Minister didn’t say what the cbc’ers wanted him to say.Must be a good interview.
I guess we’ll be able to see it on the so-called National tonight.
I’m looking forward to “Peter, let me finish the sentence.”
Precisely.
Now, with 2,019,449 votes for the man from Ontario, can we please cut crap with the “let the bastards freeze in the dark” comments?
Thanks in advance.
I’m glad they are ignoring the polls and are sticking with their plan to overthrow the Government. The libs think that Harper is terrified of the coalition of the wheeling. The GG will take advice of the PM and look at the fact that Canadians would rather go to the polls than support Mugabites.
A few thoughts for your perusal.
Given that Jack Layton was cooking up this deal with the BLOC long before the trap was sprung, Canadians are entitled constitutionally to give their blessing or condemnation to this alliance via a vote.
To argue otherwise is dishonest, a hi-JACK of Parliament, and suggests that the party in Parliament with the most seats 143 has zero say in how the country is run.
The “cabal-ition” plainly had this planned all along, and the 1.95/vote subsidy was just the trigger to unleash a preconceived plan; notwithstanding Dion’s denunciation that he would never get into a coalition with the NDP during the election period. The “cabal-ition” is just a convenient end run around the electorate because they didn’t get the result they wanted.
In effect with the BLOC holding a veto over any and all legislation produced by the NDP-Liberal coalition, Quebec would get an effective veto over the rest of Canada, which was roundly rejected in the Meech Lake, and Charlottetown Accords. I wonder how the other nine provinces will take to this novel arrangement.
Thus the man who writes the Clarity Act, and the party that let “Adscam” run, to fight the bad old separatists are now sharing the same bed.
So Stephane Dion, Jack Layton, Gilles Duceppe with the blessing of Jacques Parizeau have unleashed the command of “Torpedo LOS!” We now have a “fish in the water” directed at HMCS Canada.
All hands on deck, man your battle stations, evasive maneuvers: hard to starboard.
Ready the depth charges, its time to go submarine hunting.
Helluva time for handling “political explosives” at Christmas.
Cheers
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Must be that they missed the math classes, also reading comprehension classes to.
Inretesting numbers…Elizabeth May recently stated when the rumours had her going into the Senate…”I’ll be the only one in the Senate with a million votes.”
Sorry, Lizzy, not even close.
The Green Party only got 814,000 votes nation-wide and a paltry 35,000 in Nova Scotia where you
ran.
Nice try though.
It’s true.
Who is the second largest vote-getter in the City of Toronto? The NDP? Nope—the CPC. The NDP have TWO SEATS. But to listen to the media tell it…
Facts? Since when have the media been interested in facts? They’re here to creat the news, not report it.
Just looking at the Quebec numbers I am looking forward to the NDP saying that the federalist parties got more than 50% of the votes in the election…..so maybe the GG should kick a few BQ members out of their seats.
CBCpravda and CTV(tass)
when a beautiful theory is destroyed by ugly facts , make them up.
Re: …can we please cut crap with the “let the (eastern) bastards freeze in the dark” comments?…
Based on an analysis of these numbers, it’s clear that this sort of remark is most likely to be made – statistically speaking, that is – by Ontarians demanding (as is their God-given prorogative) that we Westerners do the heavy lifting with respect to all the provinces east of Ontario. (lol!)
IMO, Harper brought this upon himself by playing tactical politics at a time when he should have been showing leadership. A “balanced budget” and inflammatory changes to election funding and public employee rights while the economy crashes and burns?
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The New Brunswick Number doesn’t look right – only 14,000 for the CP? Perhaps it should read 114,000…
I hope Rod B, has fowarded these stats to the CBC/CTV Left Wing Advertising Company.
Craig Oliver holds one record according to something I once read. Been in Ottawa as a reporter since it was called Bytown and has never had one scoop story involving Liberal corruption.
bsneath
Try to keep up.
NB was 145132 votes for the CPC
While I’m not necessarily in favour of the “East freezing in the dark”, I do (as a person living in Western Canada) get a bit tired of the superior attitude that, if it doesn’t happen in Toronto, is doesn’t happen, and that Toronto is the centre of the known universe. Get real! Come to the West Coast and see why so many Ontarians retire here. If they don’t like it they can always go back, but none ever do.
I also take umbrage with the idea that the NDP and the Bloc didn’t have this little escapade all cooked up BEFORE the election. The Liberals are just willing dupes in the whole process. I don’t think even the Great Messiah down sount could resurect them now.
Sorry, that last sentence should say “down south”
Sorry, that last sentence should say “down south”
And post the Coalition debacle, excluding hyper-urban toronto and vancouver, CP support west of the Ottawa river is probably well above 55 percent, maybe even above 60%.
IOW hige majority territory and roughly equal to the odds Mansbridge, Oliver et al get early retirement in the next 24 months – thay cannot go out this far on the bias limb without consequences
Yes, bsneath, imagine that,eh! The nerve of the Prime Minister cutting government spending and knowing that the CPC would take the biggest cut. What was he thinking!!
Did he think he would get away with that? he must have thought he just formed the government and had some decisions to make…it’s all his fault!!
Decisions…like being wise with taxpayers money.
You’ll be happy at the CBC.ca comments section where PMSH even gets blamed for ruining the Mansbridge interview. It’s all his fault that Peter kept interrupting.
What does he think he is…the Prime Minister or what!Doesn’t he know Mansbridge rules?
I would like to print this chart but it comes up blank. Could you let us know where to go and get the same info? Thanx
“IMO, Harper brought this upon himself by playing tactical politics at a time when he should have been showing leadership.”
LOL all My life people wined about politicians giving themselves pay raises, spare me. Harper wanted to cut the salary of the liberal party and they are too lazy to fund raise.
I’d love an election campaign with the Libs and NDP saying we need your tax dollars because all our patronage handouts, haven’t generated enough party revenue.
Hey wait maybe winter 2009
🙂
the chart is proof that the CPC is the only truly national party . and in the words of one of my least favourite PMs , da proof is da proof…
I remember Peter Pansbridge( head of CBCpravda fantasy news) in the previous election saying the Liberals were shut out in Alberta but the CPC was shut out of PEI. yeah, any one riding in Alberta is larger than the combined population of PEI, what do these guys smoke?
CBCPravda coverage this time , since they knew their boys didnt have a chance included coverage by comedians. why not make light of it, the biggest joke was coming.
I ‘ave a peicd of paber wit mssr. laytons signature on id. piecemeal in our time
bsneath must prescribe to the “new economics” theory that Fred Thompson was splain’n. Now if we could only get FT and BO to butt out all would be well.
Now that I think about it, doesn’t PMSH smoke? Perhaps we can catch him in the act, or Photoshop something. Then we’ll really have him by the ballz.
Kate, unfortunately facts don’t mean a thing to the Radical Left nor their Komrades in the MSM. On CKNW I just heard Global TV’s anchor, Kevin Newman, being interviewed. He said:
1. It’ll be interesting to see if Michael Ignatieff can rise above the partisanship like Obama did. [It’s interested to see how Newman is already rewriting history so soon after the recent U.S. election campaign.]
2. Michael Ignatieff is a very “interesting” person who Canadians will be eager to get to know.
Barf. Barf. Barf.
Oh well, at least we now have confirmation that ALL THREE of our TV networks are fully inline behind the Liberals. Know They Enemy!
I’m getting cranky.The weather is really pis@y in the Ottawa area this week,thank god for for Avalanche. The days are very short so there is a small window to complete the farm chores,work ,etc….. Now I really have a joyous life but every once in awhile I snap and the endless crap spewed by the “media” is pis@#$g me off. I am talking about full blown rightous PMS anger. The CBC has got to go. I already pay way to much tax,not just federally, to have to pay for a corporation that thinks it can use my money to sh@t on the PM of my country.
AWWWWWWWw thanks for letting me rant
For the people reading here that Harper “made a mistake” or “he brought this on himself” and especially for the trolls out there try this thought on for size. Harper and the CPC knew before the election in October that there was a rumour of a coalition. He orchestrated an insignifigant economic proprosal to be tabled knowing there would be outrage, just as he knew what the reception to the introduction to the arts cutback in Quebec would be. He has effectively ousted the opposition for what they are, trough swilling bottom feeders. He knows that the MSM will never, ever give him an unbiased headline so he lets the opposition go ‘hog wild’ (pardon the pun). The average Canadian now has a clearer picture of what has been happening in the halls of power with the natural reigning party and the dippers for the last few decades. They will do anything to regain power and the Bloc have been black mailing us for years with seperation and the average Canadian didn’t know that they were financing the Bloc. So Harper has split the Liberal party, united the rest of Canada even some Quebecquois against the Bloc and he’s even accomplished this while he was sick with the flu. He has time to go Christmas shopping, sit back and see what Obama is going to do, (providing the ‘O’ doesn’t get impeached before Jan. 20) and work out a budget that the Liberals don’t dare vote against. I’ve said it here before, Harper is to politics as Kasparov is to chess. Iggy can’t make up his mind about deciding and he thinks the puffin should be the Liberal party mascot because it buries its excrement, Layton is a sock puppet that is controlled by Duceppe and Duceppe is an egotist that thinks he’s going to get Quebec to seperate. They’re all bonkers, even when they decide to gang up on the CPC they can’t stick to the plan. IF, capital I capital F, they take Harper’s government down over the upcoming budget Canadians will send the Libs and Dips to political purgatory for the next two sessions, and the CBC and Toronto Star will be there with them to hold their hands and commiserate about what a bully Stephen Harper is and how its all his fault that the electorate finally found out the truth.
Looks like the Liberals Narrative has turned from being the Iliad besieging the Conservative Troy with Harper as their Paris to seethe against. Instead they find themselves in the Odyssey with 20 years of exile & many political extinctions to come.
That’s the matter with Narcissism. They avoid unpleasant facts like Reality, with it child Human nature. Good graft. Shows up the spin for what it is. This numbers game is an excuse to further their propaganda as actuality. No this was not Harpers fault. This was part of the campaign for this “Separatist Coalition”. Harper in fact, just caught the coup before it was complete for them. Canadians want, only means what they will do no matter what real Canadians desire.
Now we have the spectacle of Bob Rae squealing pig like over the fact Liberals will loose their right to vote for a Leader. Humn Bob, sounds familiar. The man who would be King takes our vote away in a self righteous huff with one hand. While baying hurt feelings over his own self being done the same shade. Its too funny!
Only in an alternate universe with upside down laws would this work. Prepare yourselves for even more cock-and-bull story’s for this Junta in progress, now that they have been exposed as the anti-Democratic Elitists they truly are.
Norman Spector nailed it on Monday when he said the media types are going on a selling binge in the tank for whomever is not a conservative, It’s up to us folks. send an e-mail everytime you hear remarks that set your hair on fire.Better yet turn them off and don’t buy their newspapers. Let them know why,hit em in the pocketbook, that they will get.Start a retirement fund for the worst of them.
If the MSM tell a lie enough times then perhaps it will be believed … or at least that is what the likes of CBC and CTV appear to hope for.
The polls show the complete opposite of the BS the MSM is trying to portray that PM Harper is the cause of all this dissent in Parliament.
Take Bob Rae ( … no pun intended) or example. He was going to champion the Coalition even though the polls showed 60%..70% of Canadians against it !
Ah well Bob Rae to a walk on the sidewalk last night and stepped in some dog sh#@ , which focused his mind while scraping it off with a stick and VOILA he quits … BUT … he is still flogging a Coalition … the guy is a total educated MORON !
To answer your question, Kate, is easy.
The MSM windbags who continue to use the terms you indicated, “Western/Alberta Conservatives” whilst alleging that PM Harper is “the one causing division”, well, what, again, has it been said is the defintion of insanity?
What the MSM windbags are doing, the definition above can be modified somewhat for them and their behavior. Of course, in their case, it’s more like continuing to say the same old thing is true despite the plainly obvious fact that it is not.
Not surprising to observe such behavior in those who can be considered as being leftist/”liberal”/”progressive”.
Or maybe they’re simply stupid- can’t understand the provided-in-the-chart-above numbers’ meaning, and that they, in part, mean that the Conservaties are the least divisive party in Canada, and that they’re the only truly national party now.
Insane, stupid, or both- you pick.
Or…
Alternatively, they believe that continuing to parrot the old, outdated talking points about divisiveness and the “right” will continue to keep those voters who used to not vote Reform/CA/Conservative thinking that the Conservatives are divisive (and all those other nasty things they’re STILL getting accused of being, by hypocrites, mind y’all), thus manipulating same into continuing to shun the Conservatives at the voting booth. Well, it’s not working, as each election since 1993 has seen a rise in votes (and seats) for Reform/CA/CPC, despite the continuing false, pejorative talking points hurled at them by the MSM windbags as well as their political opponents.
No one should be surprised by the bias shown by CTV and Craig Oliver in particular. Anyone who watched CTV on election night would be hard pressed not to see the absolute bitterness and hostility Craig Oliver portrayed that night when it was clear the Liberals had lost!
Here are some CTV affiliations with the Liberals from none other than the great Warren Kinsella!
… note … Craig Oliver’s connection.
http://www.warrenkinsella.com/index.php?entry=entry081022-092810
“…Here’s what I know:
• the head of CTV, Ivan Fecan, headed a major fundraiser for Jean Chrétien
• one of his senior Vice Presidents, Paul Sparkes, was Chrétien’s Director of Operations
• the network’s pollster, Peter Donolo, was Chrétien’s Director of Communications
• Craig Oliver was one of the closest people to Pierre Trudeau, and used to go on annual canoe trips with him
• Jane Taber used to be regularly mocked by Frank magazine for being a Liberal shill
• Roger Smith’s wife was a senior aide to Trudeau
• Jim Munson, a Liberal Senator, became a Chrétien aide after leaving a senior spot at CTV
• Mike Duffy is a creampuff, and has loyal friends in every party
• Seamus O’Regan hangs out with Justin Trudeau and Dalton McGuinty’s former Principal Secretary
• Rosemary Thompson is a sweetheart, and used to date Liberals at Carleton (the shame!)
• Bob Fife would take down anyone, if they deserved it, regardless of party affiliation
…”
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Anyone who gets in the way of the Liberals is an enemy of the CBC.
Check out the snotty, sneering attitude of Don Newman as he interviews Baird on CBC:
http://alice-the-camel.blogspot.com/2008/12/don-newman-documented-loss-of-mental.html
After the interview rolls a bit, watch Newman’s scoffing, “I-can’t-believe-what-a fool-you-are” face when Baird is speaking. Watch how around 1:43, when Baird is answering a question, Newman keeps the microphone in front of his own mouth.
There’s a typical Keith Boag bit at the end of the vid, too.
Liberal errand-boys, not journalists. Disgusting, unprofessional, fraudulent.
bsneath: “IMO, Harper brought this upon himself by playing tactical politics at a time when he should have been showing leadership.”
Tactical politics IS leadership.
Prime Minister Stephen Harper is the ONLY Canadian politician who IS showing leadership. Our problem is that the other parties, who are sore losers and could give a good gol darn about democracy, won’t let him lead. They’d rather cut our Prime Minister off at the knees–such a Librano tactic. And, BTW, when they cut him off at the knees, they cut Canadian democracy off at the knees.
What do they care? They’re simply interestd in POWER and will use any means to get it.
Canadians aren’t buying it.
” … Anyone who gets in the way of the Liberals is an enemy of the CBC. …”
So true , but CTV is no better. I recall a Christmas interview a few years back in which Roberston and Craig Oliver were interviewing Chretien … it was pathetic … Robertson and Oliver were all but kneeling at Chretien’s feet and kissing his shoes !
… BUT .. when they interviewed PM Harper last year you could feel the tension even watching it on TV.
Canada sorely needs a Canadian version FOX news up here.
Well on the positive side I read that the NY Times has fallen on hard times ( no pun intended) and are selling … or trying to sell some real estate they own for $225M to help them weather the economic storm.
Pehaps, Mansbridge and Oliver should take one for the team and step down, taking a few others with them. Are there no journalists in Canada left who actually like to spend their own money vs. funding big gov’t and leaving the nanny state to decide what is in their best interests?
Craig Oliver is an amazing reporter. He can do a 180 without blinking an eye.
It would be interesting to see this chart for the 2006 election, and then again after the 2009 election.
Craig Oliver is legally blind.
That being said not being able to see still doesn’t explain not having a brain.
Canada needs a FOX news. True, but it will never happen.
CRTC,full of Liberals, will make sure of that.
Well we all know Craig Oliver is one of those self appointed political gurus who believes what only himself and what this other guru buddies have to say..isn’t it called the Parliamentary Press Gallery? Ladies who lunch! They who believe they make policy just by reporting something with a straight face and utmost authority? Show him the figures and he’s say well who cares anyway.Show the CBC and they’d say “Don’t dare report THOSE figures” God forbid the Liberals would look bad! And now guess waht …the Liberal die hards dont get to vote after all. Rae pulled out, Ignatieff by acclamation! Saved us some of those tax dollars after all.
Ok ..all my typos are intentional !
Glengarrian: “Craig Oliver is legally blind.
That being said not being able to see still doesn’t explain not having a brain.”
When you’re blind, you usually hone to a sharper point all of your other senses and sensibilities.
Excepting Craig. The only thing that comes to an Oliverian point is Craig’s pointed little head.
These are unusual times. It is unfortunate for Canada that on your southern border is the world’s most indebted nation. The USA is on the verge of economic collapse. We have been running budget deficits even in good times while Canada has run budget surpluses. What Canadians need to understand is that we are in extraordinary times. A recession calls for fiscal discipline and market place corrections without governmental interference. This is not what we have. We are entering a depression where valuable economic assets will be permanently destroyed. Canada can afford to deficit spend and avoid these destructive depression/deflationary forces. If you do it right, Canada will endure the next decade in much better shape than will the USA. Now is not the time for populist, balanced budget rhetoric. The global economic crisis is deadly serious and the idiotic decisions of Wall Street (and main street) in the USA will bring Canada down with it if you are not diligent.
It is for these reasons that I believe Harper acted callously when presenting a fictional “balanced budget” as well as punitive measures on his “enemies”. Maybe these political machinations are acceptable behavior in normal times, but we ARE NOT in normal times.
ulianov:
So, where does Iggy position his party?
Under Steffi, thanks to the influence of Gerard Kenndy and Bob Rae, the party shifted hard left, setting up Rae’s wish to unite the left.
In the meantime, Harper’s Conservatives claimed the spot on the political spectrum formerly held by the Libs … albeit slightly to the right.
Harper ran and was elected on ‘a steady hand in turbulent times’ as opposed to the ‘we’ll spend your money to get Canada prosperous again’ troika.
The turbulent times will be gone within 18 months, so it’s in Iggy’s interest to hope turbulent times continue.
Next move? Who knows?
Where is there for Iggy to park the Libs now that the parking space has been taken?