Again*, you global warmists: how much colder would you like it to be?”
La Nina and Pacific Decadal Oscillation Cool the Pacific
The cool water anomaly in the center of the image shows the lingering effect of the year-old La Niña. However, the much broader area of cooler-than-average water off the coast of North America from Alaska (top center) to the equator is a classic feature of the cool phase of the Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO).
Anthony explains – “If we are lucky, this PDO will be a short event. 2-4 years. If we are unlucky its the full monty phase switch, at 20-30 years.”
More at that well-known denialist website known as NASA.
The shift in the PDO can have significant implications for global climate, affecting Pacific and Atlantic hurricane activity, droughts and flooding around the Pacific basin, the productivity of marine ecosystems, and global land temperature patterns. “This multi-year Pacific Decadal Oscillation ‘cool’ trend can intensify La Niña or diminish El Niño impacts around the Pacific basin,” said Bill Patzert, an oceanographer and climatologist at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. “The persistence of this large-scale pattern [in 2008] tells us there is much more than an isolated La Niña occurring in the Pacific Ocean.
Hugger: It’s not just the people posting here Greg, its the millions of sceptics each of us represent, there are alot of us around in case you hadn’t freakin noticed. Myself I like to be informed about both sides of a contraversial issue, don’t you think thats healthy Greg?
Posted by: otter at April 30, 2008 5:27 PM
Right turn Clyde.
Hugger
C’mon guys/gals. This thread was going quite well. DON’T feed the troll!!! And I don’t mean John.
So, Greg, when the models predict that AGW will cause a certain temperature gradient over altitude, and the gradient is nowhere near the prediction, how settled is the science?
Clyde!
You broke huggrifters nose!… now he looks almost human.
Justhinkin~ watch: as it gets colder, the trolls will get quieter…
Greg: thanks for the kind words – I don’t get those often on this site so they are all the more welcome.
Do I understand it correctly that you live in Japan – if so I might recommend James Annan’s site (James’ Empty Blog) since as well as climate he talks about his experiences in Japan.
In regards to this PDO, if anyone is interested, I am actually digging into it a bit more and I may have a guest post on another blog coming up. If so I will post here if this is still open for comments. If not, but you are interested, keep an eye on Skeptical Science.
Regards,
John
Loki – ‘lighting a fire under the propane tank in the 1950s’
Gee you HAD propane in the 1950s!
But seriously, I had to heat our propane tank in the 1980s when we first moved to our farm.
It would not flow at all.
We had -40s regularly in about winters of 83/84, 84/85.
Got cold in October one year and stayed cold forever.
I didn’t think we were going to survive that ordeal.
But hey, whatever doesn’t kill you, makes you tougher.
And it was a very good reason to build a new R2000 house. And never regretted it.
I’d like to see Suzuki and Gore spend a whole winter in the cold North.
If that didn’t change their perspective on why some people don’t mind global warming, then they are not all there.
Posted by: John Cross at May 1, 2008 8:17 AM
You are welcome John. I live on the East Coast of Canada and often speak metaphorically. It produces a bit of fun at times.
A ray of Sunshine in an old man’s life.
For Justthinkin’. Think harder, and that’s Mr. Troll to you.
Hugger
AL GORE shivering in one of his estates with 8 feet of snow outside and still this blabbering nit wit is blabbering this whole global warming bull kaka
OK, if anyone is still interested John and I have posted over on Skeptical Science
John
James Hansen is a fanatic like most of those global warming types their all pushing a fruadulent idea