Tony Blair’s Britain

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1. The leftards are going to erupt in 10… 9…. 8…

2. … 5… 4…3…

3. 2…1… Blast off!

4. Somebody’s about to be reassigned to the call centre at the Ministry Of Funny Walks.

5. Somebody is about to be reassigned to the call centre at the Ministry Of Funny Walks.

6. …2…1…
   Import poverty. Destroy the middle class with increased tax and social burden.
   The Star reported that immigration into Canada costs taxpayers $4.6 billion a year. All to keep the Liberals in power. The largest Liberal scam by far.
   No wonder they’re vehemently complaining about the immigration restructuring.

7. Observe and Learn …. The Formerly Great Britain has paved the way for those who want to see the “benefits” of setting policies by politically correct leftardism.
   Now our job should be simple.
   If you want to BE like Britain … just ACT like Britain.
   On the other hand if you do not want to be like Britain …. do the opposite.

8. Its like the Island of Dr. Moreau… but bigger and scarier.
   Somebody is going to get a stern talking to, I bet. Just goes to show, there’s no government conspiracy so airtight that it doesn’t leak the truth once in a while, eh? Somebody always spills the beans.

9. All easily predicted for those with an ounce of common sense.
   As an aside, I’d probably call it Gordon Brown’s Britain to be up to date.

10. When does an election have to be held in the UK next?
    I’m betting Brown is about to be unemployed.

11. As Michael Kinsley noted, ‘a gaffe is when a politician tells the truth’. So I’m sure someone will be blamed and pilloried for the ‘gaffe’.

12. No, “steve”, “New Labour” and its’ version of Huxley’s “Brave New Welfare State” is T. Blair’s monster. Blair’s policies over 10 years, more than anything else, made British society the dysfunctional mess it is today. Brown is just following in the master’s footsteps – minor adjustments, that is all.

13. Meh , just send Turner’s zombie cannibals over there , two problems solved and still PC .

14. Putting aside the economic downside of immigration, the biggest problem in Britain and throughout the EU is the hard cold fact that they’ve imported large numbers of Muslims – the ultimate Other by their own definition. They are tearing apart the social fabric wherever they lite in large numbers. Look no farther than Holland. Islam even in its moderate form isn’t compatible with secular democracies. Period.
    The west needs to add up the trillions collectively spent on security since 9/11.
    A quick trip to Google came up with this:
    “Canada has spent an extra $24 billion beefing up security measures since the Sept. 11 attacks on U.S. soil, CBC News estimates.”
    http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/03/24/sept11-spending.html
    And that’s just Canada.
    Importing more of the unknown with the radicalized terrorist a given as a percentage of Muslim immigrants is just stupid. How can you ever screen them out effectively, and, never mind that their native born offspring have engaged in terrorism where they’ve settled. The lefties in power know all that and really don’t care. It’s about netting needy warm bodies using lavish welfare benefits to keep the votes going in their direction.

15. jwkozak91, noted! One of these days it will be Gordon Brown’s Britain (unless they change the name). On a sad note, I guess it’s still Mike Harris’s Ontario (not)!

16. Well that report will piss off NULabour, without the flood of hundreds of thousands of immigrants they don’t stand a chance in hell of getting re-elected. The people of Britain have had enough of their socialist elite behavior, one MP actually stated that the people of Britain couldn’t be trusted with important decisions (EU membership) it was the MPs job to decide for them. That ladies and gentlemen is what the liberal socialist do, they decide for you and you pay and suffer for it.
    We know what our future holds under a Liberal or NDP, snicker, government, we only have to look across the pond to see the suffering of the people of Britain under socialism. It kills it host and replaces the native culture with inferior cultures they believe they can control.

17. Don’t forget that without immigration, Canada (and the US) would not exist.
    If you look at the performance of these two countries (USA, Canada), both with heavy immigration levels, historically as well as recently, it is pretty darn good.
    The problem is not immigration as such, but the socialist welfare policies that are in place, which essentially encourages people to become dependent on the state, and thus a burden for the taxpayers. Another problem is lack of proper law enforcement. A third is lack of proper protection for individual rights.
    In principle I would allow any law abiding and hard working person to immigrate, with no restrictions whatsoever. Just don’t count on staying if you’re a criminal or a sloth.
    I find it amusing that some people think they have some special right to other Canadian’s property just because they happen to have been born here. I’d say, throw out criminal and lazy “natives” too! Native born Canadians have no more right to my tax dollars, and my protection, than a recent immigrant!

18. “Canada has spent an extra $24 billion beefing up security measures since the Sept. 11 attacks on U.S. soil, CBC News estimates.”
    http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/03/24/sept11-spending.html
    penny
    ———————————————–
    This story just CANNOT be true,because if it IS true,it means that CANADA’S IMMIGRATION SYSTEM for the last 30 years has been a colossal FAILURE whose costs will NEVER be recouped!

19. Easy access to abortion has led to immigration’s having become a cash cow for countries with a deficit of young people. Immigration has been the politicians’ politically correct answer to no babies–or, at least, not enough births to even replace deaths.
    Radical feminists’ mantras “A woman’s right to choose,” “Every child a wanted child,” “Keep abortion safe, free and legal,” “Keep men’s laws off women’s bodies,” “Keep Your Rosaries Off My Ovaries, ” “My Body, My Choice,” ensured a deeply depleted future-generation demographic.
    Feminists keep up the facade that they’re “deprived.” Thanks to them, our Western world is so deprived that we “enlightened” Western democracies have to rely on immigration to get all the jobs done.
    And, now, we’re discovering this wasn’t such a great idea.
    Well, it never was.

20. In other words, it is just a huge system that allows immigrants to leech from the resident population. That oughta go over real well with the resident Brits.

21. 1. Stop refugee resettlement.
    2. Pull the plug on immigration of unsuitable candidates.
    3. Out of the UN. Now!

22. The western world needs to import citizens from third-world countries because of the high abortion rate; they come in droves, attracted by the west’s easy access to state-funded abortions.
    This wouldn’t normally be a cause of concern, but, in Ted Turner’s overheated, on-fire world of the future, we’re going to need a lot of people if cannibalism is going to be sustainable.
    So, it’s a problem secular planners need to get working on.

23. 1 in 10 British Nationals now lives abroad.
    Their motto:
    “If you can’t beat em why not join em”.
    Their philosophy:
    “If I’m forced to live in multi-cultural communities now lacking historically satisfactory services, why not live somewhere where my dollars will stretch threefold or more”?
    Less tax (far less), more house, less big brother and lots of cheap domestic help.
    That’s why Blair went crying to the Spanish president a few years ago demanding tax implementations of British foreign nationals living the good life in Spain. The losses are costing the UK a staggering amount each year and it’s growing exponentially. There was even a bid by the Blair government to other first world nations to refuse applications of highly skilled British citizens pending review and approval by the Blair government, actually attempting to economically imprison certain professionals from leaving the country.
    The replacement populations of course are under skilled third worlders heavy on the social systems and birth rates with little contribution into the economy.
    The financially able are leaving a rotting corpse as fast as their financial situations allow! We need to learn from these lessons………..

24. we found no systematic empirical evidence to suggest that net immigration creates significant dynamic benefits for the resident population in the UK. This does not necessarily mean that such effects do not exist but that there is currently no systematic evidence for them and it is possible that there are also negative dynamic and wider welfare effects
    I feel sick — excuse me, I’m going to hurl!

25. Orlin: I believe hurling is classified as a “negative dynamic” by the EU.
    The EU regulates the allowable size of hurled chunks, so please refer to the EU guidelines before commencing.

26. In other words, it is just a huge system that allows immigrants to leech from the resident population. That oughta go over real well with the resident Brits.

    Same as here. They are socialists they will put their eyes down and worry about themselves more than the future.
    If we needed immigration we wouldn’t have affirmative action programs would we.
    but we don’t need it so we do have them.
    Why have racist hiring aimed at whites, bring in 250,000/yr and RISING, when we have over a million unemployed?
    But what’s neat is how the left approaches the problem if you are white and have a hard time getting a job because of racist government barriers or affirmative programs which pretend to be better than hiring quotas, the left will say you need to try harder, if Canada doesn’t need you and you show up with your grade 2 education in another language and no one wants you, then we need massive government legislation.
    PS Anyone have a link for the torstar 4 billion number?
    pls email maddinosaur at hotmail dot com

27. Johan i Kanada – I think you are right. Immingration isn’t the problem. The problem is how we treat immigrants. They are welcome to retain their own culture and in at least some instances violently oppose the culture they find here. They are welcome to avail themselves of our economic and social support systems (I read here that we even let in some immigrants with AIDS not considering what that will cost our Canadian economy). They are welcome to acquire a Canadian passport and live elsewhere as “dual citizens”. They claim to be citizens of country X and Canada. When they go abroad and rasie hell or misbehave and get caught they come running back to Canada or calling for help from Canada – not country X.
    And I’m not just talking about the Lebanese situation of recent past here. I have had conversations with Africans who tell me that many of the “Indians”, pseudonym for “Muslim” residents of their country are crooked businessmen with dual passports. Canada and Britain are common second countries. When they get caught or the local heat gets turned up, they run back to Canada or Britain. Their existence smears our international reputation. They do not represent any of the Canadian values or culture. This has got to change!
    In the past, the bulk of immigrants came from a relatively similar cultural background, and were able to coalesce around a common set of values. That is not happening now. When I was youger we used to talk about the Protestant Work Ethic as being something that built our nation. Now I don’t suggest that Protestantism is a necessary part of what makes us successful, but work ethic and the civil infrastructure that supports it (legal systems based on the rule of law, the sanctity of contracts and justice being blind etc) certainly are. It is plain that many of the changes being introduced to accomodate the multiculturalism of our curent immigration policy are not changes for the better.
    And yes, the same problem exists in a large way in the communities of our first residents.

28. This is actually quite complex and not simply a matter of mass immigration. Let me try and explain. When Bliar and Co. came to power in 1997 the problem had already started under the Conservatives. For a number of years the government had allowed lawyers to dictate to them about immigration matters. We used to get “asylum seekers” people from the old Eastern bloc who were genuine, but then the trouble started in Kosovo and the people there cottoned on to the fact that if you spoke the magic words “asylum” the immigration officers could no longer boot you back. This opened the flood gates to hundreds of thousands of bogus claims for asylum. In Dover in 2001 we had over a hundred people a day claiming they were persecuted ranging from Eastern European gypsies to Afghans, Iraqis, Iranians, Turks, Sri Lankans and assorted deadbeats from Africa. All of them were allowed in with minimal questioning. The government massaged the figures and the people remain ignorant. Then in 2004 a number of East European countries joined the EU including Poland. Hundreds of thousands of them came to Britain to get work which the natives were not prepared to get off their arses to do thanks to welfare. Then Bulgaria and Romania joined and thousands of less desirable people have flooded in.
    When you get these reports the media all focus on the tens of thousands of Poles who came here for work. They ignore the hundreds of thousands, if not millions of deadbeats that are here because they claimed to be persecuted. The ones that were refused asylum (the overwhelming majority) are still here because the government can’t deport them to countries like Iran and laughably Iraq (even though their claims were based on persecution by Saddam) because under Tony Blair’s government they brought in a Human Rights Act which prevents removal to countries which have the death penalty.
    The real elephant in the room is the EU. Under EU law Britain is unable to decline entry to Europeans. The Dutch for example find this very useful as they have hundreds of thousands of Somalis who claimed asylum there. The Dutch got around the problem by giving them citizenship. The Somalis then headed off to Britain where the welfare is easier to obtain.
    This experiment in social engineering carried out by the traitors who have run Britain for the past decade will result in Civil War when the people who are paying for it (the working classes) find they can no longer afford it.
    Myself I saw the writing on the wall five years ago and applied for a visa for Canada. Ironic isn’t it? Uncontrolled immigration leading to an exodus of people. The difference is Australia, Canada and New Zealand etc. have a policy of selecting who they want. The UK thanks to the lawyers and the EU has to let anyone and everyone in. If you read the BBC you get the leftards all mocking the people that have left Britain (150,000 a year). The thing is the people who are leaving are generally better educated and will be taking their money with them. For example when we move we will be effectively bringing $400,000 to Canada. Britain I’m sorry to say is going to end up a failed state thanks to socialist morons.

29. Yah, Britain is pretty much a “fait accompli”
    They have fundamentally misunderstood the nature of the EU. You see the French, Spaniards, German, etc all have to follow the same set of rules, however,:
    1) the French just don’t care about rules and will go on doing whatever they damn well please
    2) the Spaniards are too lazy to implement them
    3) the Germans, with their understated humour, created most of these rules as a joke, to show the rest of europe that they too can be funny.
    4) similar lines of though for every other country except……..
    It was the Brits who took it all seriously and actually implemented the EU directives.
    After all, these directives conformed to what the socialists wanted anyways and the Brits have a rather stiff upper lip until such time as they really, really get pizzed off.
    A lot of Brits I know think that they have crossed this line recently and are now hopping mad ready to do something, anything. But, as I said, it is too late.
    The UK has crossed the event horizon, no return from here!!

30. Directives in my previous post is in regards to immigration directives, but can be easily applied to Kate’s later post about the buses!

31. Maggie put an effective end to colored immigrants a long time ago. The only way coloreds come in is if they are highly skilled.
    The immigration that is not “benefitting” the British is the EU immigration, with its French waiters and Polish plumbers. Non-EU immigration constitutes about 20%, the vast majority of which is high skilled labor – bankers, lawyers and techies.
    The basis for the report was that GDP per capita has not increased significantly. I doubt that is because of the influx of bankers and lawyers and techies. French waiters, Russian coffee servers etc on the other hand…
    Muslims by and large can only come in as refugees. And thats effectively stopped off late.
    “The Star reported that immigration into Canada costs taxpayers $4.6 billion a year. All to keep the Liberals in power. The largest Liberal scam by far.”
    Canadian immigration is aimed at population growth. Larger population leads to larger number of consumers leads to economic growth. If you end immigration, calculate the drop in population growth and its impact on the economy.