Y2Kyoto: Great Moments In Hypocrisy

98 Replies to “Y2Kyoto: Great Moments In Hypocrisy”

1. Yeah “do as I say, not as i do” friggin hypocryte.
   I take what Dr. Suzi has to say as seriously as I do the WWE super slam as reality.

2. If David Suzuki wanted to lead by example,, he would kill himself. His CO2-exhaling, resource-consuming presence is an offense to Gaia.

3. While consuming electricity, etc. in one place, the other place sits idle. This helps reduce local energy and water consumption, and, of course, there is no waste being produced.
   People who own and occupy two houses are the most selfless people on the planet.
   Someone should create an award in the shape of Al Gore’s mansion, and award it to environmentalists like D.S. who are leading the way for the rest of us.

4. Ahhh the priest of anti-science speaks!! Heed all ye faithful! Heed the gospel of depopulation in green drag!
   Hey Fruit fly…ya wanna be alone…we got an Island you can share with the Goracle 😀

5. I agree with JMD’s advice. Please, David Suzuki, spare us all your sanctimonious blathering by walking in front of an oncoming bus some time soon.

6. Ya, but cut the hypocrite some slack.
   I’ve heard he walks over the water to get to Quadra Island so that saves a lot of carbon pollution.
   And he even washes his feet before hand so he won’t dirty the fish habitat with foot dirt.
   Dr. Fruit Fly – still a card carrying enviro-greeny.
   Remember – EARTH FIRST – we’ll log the other planets later

7. Not a huge Suzuki fan myself, but your all consuming jealousy is showing – Kate, idiot WL Mackenzie and others – your basic issue, and it comes up frequently – is your seething resentment that even people like Suzuki have been more successful in the material world than your sorry derrieres and it kills you.

8. tory_watcher……..go read the comments at the link.
   I do not have time right now to fill your post full of holes.
   And please do not reply by calling me a name either.

9. “The more I think about it, the more I think this whole thing is really an attempt to move society to some sort of Medieval model, where the vast majority of the population uses almost no resources, managed by a dynastic upper class of self-appointed masters with privileged access to energy.”
   Angry’s piece was great but is he only now figuring out that the left has been trying to destroy the middle classes for nearly a hundred years now? that’s what communism/environmentalism is all about and always has been.
   THE VISION: A ruling elite AKA rich arrogant leftists and a servile, but respectful peasant mass. End of story. End of freedom!
   Outright competition between the forces of ultra socialism ala the “former” Soviet Union and the “current” capitalist West proved that the country with the motivated middle classes will win every time.
   The ultra socialists, having poisoned our education system of the West for last fifty years, now has enough brainwashed Leftists in our society with just enough erroneous information to make them dangerous, have moved into environmentalism and climate change to use as the holy grail against the horrid over-consuming middle class.
   The elites have always known that it is easier to control and subjugate an unarmed peasant population than an armed and free-thinking middle class … you know the ones who all have a rifle or two laying around in case they want to take the old Hummer out and shoot a deer.

10. Donald Trump is not telling me how to live my life according to a code that he’s not following himself.
    Bill Gates is not telling me how to live my life according to a code that he’s not following himself.
    It’s not wealthy, successful people that annoy us . . . it’s hypocritical, do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do types (Chomsky, Moore, Gore, Suzuki) that annoy us. They can be as wealthy and successful as they like (often off the backs of suckers like tory_watcher who fall for their snake-oil sales), but could they please stop telling us how to live our lives according to a code that they themselves don’t follow.

11. I simply ignore the Gore and Suzuki types.
    If they want me to take them seriously on the environment, here’s what I suggest: they first reduce their “footprint” down to my level.
    Then we’ll all go down to the next level together.
    I don’t care that anyone has more than me, I’m not envious.
    But I will not have them “finger wag” me.

12. By the way, I love Kitsilano and Vancouver, but there are too many lefties and aging hippies. I think we can have greater density if we made the city much more hostile to them. Their stupid appearance has made our city unattractive, and thus I like to spend more of my time in a smaller place at North Gower (Ontario) where I have a home amongst ordinary, unassuming Joe Average Canadians from the Ottawa Valley.

13. As someone said wrt global warming and all things environmental, “I’ll believe it is a crisis when those who say it is a crisis behave as though it were a crisis.” Until then . . .

14. Its too bad that Foo Man Fool doesn’t practice what he preach and dig himself an outhouse. Then, when he lights a candle at 2 am to see one of his masterpieces go down the loo, he can light up the island like the fourth of July from the methane ignition.

15. While working in downtown Vancouver some years ago I took note of a smoky Japanese compact car as it sputtered by. I was surprised as it appeared to be Dr. Suz at the wheel. I thought maybe it’s a humility thing. I would have expected something a little higher on the Earthier Than Thou staffcar list like a smoky 70’s Volvo Wagon-with rooftop canoe of course.

16. tory_watcher,
    What’s with the moniker? Are Conservatives supposed to be scared now, or something?
    A suggestion: Given the vacuous, non-content of your post and the fact that you don’t have the intelligence to understand what the topic and the comments on the thread are about, oh and that you follow the typical leftist illogical notion that feelings trump fact and insults trump all, you might be better off simply typing:
    &%#@%*&%$&#@!!!!!!
    We’ll all get the idea that you’re feeling really, really upset, much quicker.

17. The only thing dumber than the global warming/change/carbon foot print con are the ants that follow the scent trail of the likes of suzuki and gore.

18. tory_watcher:
    Keep watching.
    You may actually learn something.
    The challenge is an ability to listen to all sides of an issue and choose for yourself the one that makes the most sense.
    Are you up for the challenge?

19. Relax everyone. Suzuki does the environmentally proper thing and rides his bicycle between his two homes. No fossil fuels involved.
    He just has to time the tides correctly.

20. Posted on AGWN comments–Gore has ‘ice in his eyes’! So that is where the Arctic ice is going?
    No GW for Gore!
    As for Fruitfly–he lives near the coast? We should all pray for GW and rising oceans–that should take care of him!

21. George:
    You mean he can’t walk on water?

22. If suzuki’s ideas for the economy are followed there will be fewer and fewer people able to enjoy the life style he’s scammed for himself. That’s what saddens me when I see another university crowd cheering for him; he’s telling them to accept a bleaker future and they’re applauding it. They might not care now, but they will.

23. “your basic issue, and it comes up frequently – is your seething resentment that even people like Suzuki have been more successful in the material world than your sorry derrieres and it kills you.”
    -BS – but as a faitly young person, I would like to have my shot at that lifestyle too – I hope that if i work hard and am sucessful, I too can afford that 2nd home on an island. Creatures like Gore and Suzuki, by the policies they advocate (ie trashing the North American energy economy) make that outcome far less likely. Thus the anger at their “I’ve got mine, now screw you (for the good of Gaia)” attitude.

24. Daisy/Set you free/jeffk:
    Learn something – from the likes of you with such huge axes to grind and such petty jealousies? No, I don’t think so. I do read a fair amount from the few domain experts who dispute the consensus of the vast majority, and they do raise interesting points form time to time that are cause for further examination, but they are few and far between.
    In my business (private equity) we deploy capital to make profits sometimes involving developing and deploying new technology to help solve these “imaginary” problems. Yeah, real “lefty” I am. I also know that risk managers in major industries also pay significant attention to the “imaginary” problems of climate change and expend considerable resources to mitigate and manage.
    But I am sure they are all deluded and have much to learn from you.

25. Mr. Watcher,
    I would suggest you look up the cooling that has been present in the oceans for the past 8 years and ask yourself whether or not you’re wasting your clients money.
    Yes, it’s foolish to pollute the sky. Yes, there is a lot of previously locked carbon that is being released. Yes, David Suzuki owns a $2M house on an island that has private boat and ferry access only. Giving a climate priest a pass on selfish polluting is like giving Elliot Spitzer a pass.
    It’s upsetting that people like you hold the purse strings that could eventually save the planet, because it’s obvious that you cannot see the forest through the trees.

26. ” . . . petty jealousies”
    Some major projecting going on here. I think Mr. T_W is pettily jealous of Suzuki, Gore, et al. He wishes he knew how to get as much money out of the gullible as they did/do out of this GW twaddle.

27. Tory_Watcher
    The issue with Suzuki is hypocrisy not jealousy of his ill-gotten loot from taxpayers. He boasts of his idyllic Quadra Island retreat and is good company there. On Quadra and the Gulf Islands in general, one finds the prevailing mentality that speaks “sustainability” but lives parasitically off the tit of a declining, productive, resource economy. While wealth is “parked” on these Islands where virtually no development, nor resource extraction is allowed by the local RDs or Islands Trust, the local faux environmentalists demand subsidized ferries, schools and other services and by-the-way someone else (tax-payers of Vancouver Island where there is far too much logging for Dr. S.) deal with our solid wastes.
    Suzuki’s carbon footprint is likely in the top 1 percentile of humanity, he unashamedly bites the hand that feeds him and if you’ve ever met him, it’s hard not to conclude that he is an arrogant asshole.

28. jmd- i think it’s only right or maybe left that all the believers in co2 and agw should kill themselves – it’s the unselfish thing to do – best for the planet and all that – unfortunately they are just power hungry, greedy socialists who wish to control other people’s lives.

29. It is a directly proportional relationship.
    The more the AGW believer has to lose financially from the collapse of the AGW fraud, the more vicious they will be in their attacks on anyone who dares critique their martyrs.
    Jealous of any hypocritical AGW huckster? I think not!

30. salute Dr. Megele Suzuki, at least he is not down with Branson and the other uber-eco-snobs in the British Virgin Islands.
    less cars, more politicians lanquishing in jail, any other orders to give us Dr. Fruitfly.
    I have seached unsuccessfully for the Suzuki Substandard Sustainability Shack on Quadra Island using google earth. I understand he has a pulpit, which is what I have been looking for – but it may be below the resolution of googleearth.

31. t_w. The “imaginary” crisis everyone is talking about is AGW and CO2. The real crisis, as we’ve discussed here ad nauseum, is actual pollution, especially in emerging world, and the need to develop truly clean energy technology.
    If you want credibility here, just tell us what you’re doing about that.

32. One good sized EARTHQUAKE and, well, fruitflyguy will be “researching” new accomodations. Can’t see the writing on the wall? F%ckem!

33. It all reminds me of Bono from U2 who is always pressing western governments to impose a save Africa tax on the middle working class.
    This coming from someone living in a castle, who’s bands net worth is close to a billion dollars amongst other investments and has clearly stated, “I don’t give of my money, but I do offer my time”.
    A proud moment for Canada was when PMSH said he wasn’t interested
    “I’ve got to say that meeting celebrities isn’t kind of my shtick, that was the shtick of the previous guy,” said Harper in a dig at his Liberal predecessor Paul Martin, who met Bono regularly.
    Glad we have a leader and not another groupie……………….

34. tory_watcher:
    Congratulations on your efforts to help control pollution, I’m sure all of us here would like to live in a cleaner environment.
    That is a much different issue than the global warming, eh, hang on it’s cooling, so let’s rename it climate change cult.
    Those particular efforts, led by Suzuki and the Goracle are narrow-focus issues which attempt to predict the effects of CO2. BTW, CO2 is NOT a pollutant.
    I’m sure in your business there are scientists who could clearly demonstrate the reasons the world switched from coal to oil in the last century. It’s because oil is the cleaner hydrocarbon.
    BTW, I’m curious. Just what is the nature of the jealousy your fears allow you to see in us in your blanket statement?

35. Made no mention of “pollution control” technologies – people with simplistic views often make that mistake. Harper tried that early in his gov’t, always referring to “pollution” before finally acquiescing to polling data which viewed his position as climate change denier as an electoral non-starter and publicly mouthing the worlds “climate change is a serious problem”. Of course pollution control is a huge area and deserving of significant attention and investment, particularly in areas such as water treatment. However, one of the greatest areas of investment globally is that surrounding climate change, from energy efficiency to cleaner combustion technologies, agtech etc…. It is where much of the “smart money” is going. Stupid money will also go there, as money always follows money.
    This obsession with Suzuki is typical. Again, not a big fan of his, but the hatred and jealousy evident in most of his and Gore’s attackers of the armchair right variety is plain to see.

36. quadra island. 1.8 million gets you this.
    http://www.bcislandhomes.com/valdes/index.html

37. Mr. Watcher,
    I’m surprised you haven’t heard of the Green Bubble. It’s the overinflation of the value of green projects because of climate hysteria. I work on Run of River Hydro plants and we are constantly concern about these issues. As someone who works with other people’s money I’m surprised that you have yet to grasp this concept.
    As I said earlier, and you ignored. Suzuki is a hypocrite, as is Gore. People, even those of us on the armchair right, or those of us involved in politics and/or green energy see what Suzuki is doing as a net negative for making the world a better place. He is pushing the same communist crap that they were pushing for Global Cooling. The problem has changed but unfortunately the green paradigm hasn’t.

38. I’ll try to avoid the ad-hominen attacks favoured by the likes of T-W but it would appear comprehension of a topic is not their strongest suit. What is being discussed is this so-called, self righteous, pompous arrogant enviro-nut who has at various times called for the imprisonment of politicans who don’t completely agree with his position or he screams at people he perceives as non-beleivers or climate criminals seems to be a tad hypocritical in regards to his own life style and wasteful practices. Much like his buddy Al Gore. Some people see this issue for what it is and what it is not. Dr Fruit-Fly position has more to do with wealth redistrubtion than it does making positive strides to clean up our environment. That’s the point and by Suzuki splashing around the country in his diesel powered bus, making ads about conservation and his green approach he has put himself out there for critisism if his words don’t match his actions. It’s fair game when you act all self righteous and pompous and then have your actions bite you in the ass later on. Has zero to do with jealousy and more to do with educating everyone on what a hypocrite he truly is.

39. set you free…t_w is PO’D because being in private equity’s, his only hope is that more suckers keep”investing” their bucks in the AGW scam. Plus,he is only able to siphon off a very small amount of that sucker’s money into his own pockets,unlike the Goarcle/Fruitfly/Mlong,who are skimming millions,if not billions. Methinks s/he is more jealous of their success in fleecing the stupid, and is actually scared to death of real conservatives,as we are outting the scam before he can buy the next island up from the Fruitfly.

40. Mr “Jon”:
    Any fool investing in any space needs to be highly cognizant of valuation. Who said anything about investing at overinflated prices? Yes, the market is overheated in this area, but as with most “hot” markets, this is based on some fundamentals, and does not mean all deals are bad deals. As I said, stupid money follows smart money and, yes, many will make very bad investments in this sector as in others.
    Finally, who said anything about other people’s money? You presume much.

41. I also had an award in mind, Richard Ball, but one to be awarded to real people, as opposed to faux-environmentalists, who are actually making a difference.
    I thought that D.S. could choose a winner from the submissions made to the David Suzuki Foundation, from individuals whose carbon footprint is the size of a sliver of a baby toenail.
    I’m sure there are people–maybe even some of us–who consume about this much of the world’s resources, and wouldn’t it be nice to have a trophy sitting on our windowsill from Mr. Fruitfly himself?

42. Phew . . . I guess I’m off the hook: I live in a house smaller than those of both my grandparents and MUCH smaller than those of my great grandparents. I guess I must be doing something right!
    David Suzuki and his ilk disgust me: they’re total phonies and hypocrites. And, on March 29th, not being a member of the Green Church of Hype and Hypocrisy, I and my family are going to use just as much energy as we usually do, which, compared to the inflated lifestyles of the Suzukis of this world, is very small. (It wouldn’t surprise me if the likes of him celebrated March 29th in a TV studio or stadium somewhere, beaming their gospel worldwide, as usual, altogether belying their message of less consumption.)
    My contempt for these energy devouring surrender monkeys knows no bounds.

43. That’s “grandparents'”!

44. I’d admit that I was envious of Suzuki….
    I’d love to have been able to parlay a mediocre scientific career into a lifetime source of revenue amounting to $millions.
    I’d hope that it would be possible without being a world class hypocrite and fraud though…..

45. Suzuki should be charged with fraud. Hopefully when the lawsuits are launched against Al Gore in the US, they will name Suzuki as well.

46. Too bad nobody asked him how he travelled between his two homes.

47. Since the earth has gone through several (seven?) ice ages followed by periods of warming, such as we are enjoying now, climate CHANCE evidently is a natural phenomenon.
    Northern Alberta, for example, was under a three km thick glacier.
    Thank goodness the naturally-occuring warming allowed us to move here and feed our families through honest work.
    I would categorize the followers of Goracle and Suzuki who are making a living off a flawed philosophy as pratctitioners in dishonest work.

48. tory watcher, we all know the climate is changing all the time. It’s just that we haven’t seen any reliable proof that it is linked to CO2, nor that it is linked to Man’s CO2.

49. Have you caught any of the new commercials on cbc with DS and kids. And how about the one re the extra fridge and the guy turning off all power in the house, less power means more money for beer. Great message for kids.

50. Gaw-lee! Thanks for the investment seminar, tory-watcher!
    But frankly, it’s unappetizing when someone loudly announces himself as “more successful in the material world” than those he barges in to address — especially he then commences to tell others how they, too, can get rich is to buy into the fraud he’s helping to perpetuate.
    Your Liberal accent really and truly stands out here. You’re comfortable with rank-pulling of a sort that’s somewhere between laughable and embarrassing, because it makes no sense to anyone else; it’s an entirely self-anointed privilege.
    “Hon, there’s a Liberal on the porch! He won’t let us see the contract!”
    The topic of this thread, tory_watcher, is the hypocrisy of someone who has made millions preaching that the earth can’t sustain our lifestyles, but who continues, year after year, to consume more resources than the average people he’s deriding.
    You told us you’re successful in the material world, more successful than anyone who criticizes fraudulent science or David Suzuki, and you’ve given us your “smart money” seminar. Care to address the issue of the hypocrisy of Gore and Sting and Suzuki and the limousine-Liberals?
    Or would you be shooting yourself in the wallet?