Where the foxes caper unmolested, the government packs your school lunch and “we’ve come for your liver”;
Mr Bloke: Look, I can’t give it to you now. It says ‘In The Event of Death’…
First Man: No-one who has ever had their liver taken out by us has survived…
Harvesting humans on presumed consent is disgusting.
The last time I filled out a survey that asked for my ethnicity I responded “Other” and then wrote in Canadaian. This is a prime example why I don’t identify with that heritage anymore.
Taliban Jack’s Ontario
Where the beavers caper unmolested, the government packs your school lunch and “we’ve come for your liver”
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2006-03,GGLG:en&q=ontario+presumed+consent
Personnally I have no problem with it. It’s not like they are of any use to you at that point anyways.
Do they harvest while still warm or do they wait until your cold?
Should make for a splendid Monty Python skit!
“Consent given by Dr. Mengele I presume?”
I was just pining!
As I said at the Bell Canada picnic, sorry about the length:
Sir Lancelot: Fair Concord! You shall not have died in vain!
Concord: I’m not quite dead yet, sir.
Sir Lancelot: (surprised) Oh… well, then, you shall not have been mortally wounded in vain –
Concord: Actually, I could pull through, sir.
Sir Lancelot: Oh I see…
Concord: In fact, sir, I think I’m alright to come with you.
Sir Lancelot: No no, sweet Concord. You must stay here! I’ll go and get help.
Concord: I feel fine, sir-
Lancelot: (interupting) Farewell, sweet Concord! (runs off)
Concord: I’ll just stay here then, shall I sir? Right.
======================
CART MASTER:
Ninepence.
DEAD PERSON:
I’m not dead!
CART MASTER:
What?
CUSTOMER:
Nothing. Here’s your ninepence.
DEAD PERSON:
I’m not dead!
CART MASTER:
‘Ere. He says he’s not dead!
CUSTOMER:
Yes, he is.
DEAD PERSON:
I’m not!
CART MASTER:
He isn’t?
CUSTOMER:
Well, he will be soon. He’s very ill.
DEAD PERSON:
I’m getting better!
CUSTOMER:
No, you’re not. You’ll be stone dead in a moment.
CART MASTER:
Oh, I can’t take him like that. It’s against regulations.
DEAD PERSON:
I don’t want to go on the cart!
CUSTOMER:
Oh, don’t be such a baby.
CART MASTER:
I can’t take him.
DEAD PERSON:
I feel fine!
CUSTOMER:
Well, do us a favour.
CART MASTER:
I can’t.
CUSTOMER:
Well, can you hang around a couple of minutes? He won’t be long.
CART MASTER:
No, I’ve got to go to the Robinsons’. They’ve lost nine today.
CUSTOMER:
Well, when’s your next round?
CART MASTER:
Thursday.
DEAD PERSON:
I think I’ll go for a walk.
CUSTOMER:
You’re not fooling anyone, you know. Look. Isn’t there something you can do?
DEAD PERSON: [singing]
I feel happy. I feel happy.
[whop]
CUSTOMER:
Ah, thanks very much.
CART MASTER:
Not at all. See you on Thursday.
“Hospitals will be rated for the number of deceased patients they “convert” into donors and doctors will be expected to identify potential donors earlier and alert donor co-ordinators as patients approach death.”
Wow. You can almost see them hovering, like a pack of hungry vultures over a man in the desert.
Imagine the last thing you see being your doctor, polishing his tools and waiting for you to die.
*shiver*
and who says the world isn’t going to hell.
The only certain things in life are death and taxes. Now the blooducking government wants your organs too? This is obscene–and frightening.
I don’t know what the current law is in Canada, but I do remember that there was a move to make it that way here.
As an atheist who believes life is a chemical reaction and nothing more… i am for it…
when you are dead…you are dead… is it better if your organs burn or are eaten by insects? better to save lives.
Before you get too high up on your horses, three questions: Have you signed YOUR organ donor card? If no, why not? Have you made it explicitly clear your family that you wish to donate your organs upon your death? Even if you sign the card, your family can still say no, thus ending the process.
So, with that in mind, I see absolutely nothing wrong with implied consent of organ/tissue donation upon death.
If you HATE the idea, if it makes you wretch, then sign your “No Donation card. What’s the big deal? If the same 5% who have enough of an opinion to currently sign their organ donation cards, sign their “No donation of organs” cards, then there is a better chance of saving more lives.
Oh, and Hans. You’re still warm.
You can have my liver when you pull it from my cold, dead…
oh wait…
I can’t think of anyone that I’d trust to determine that I was ‘dead enough’ to start harvesting. Is that where the term ‘grim reaper’ came from?
My organs stay in eastern Ontario, as per my will.
As well, they cannot be sold, and my estate has been delegated to ensure that they aren’t given to some elitist(my 3 daughters all must sign off), and preferably to a working class type.
Whether this is possible or not, we shall find out upon my death. If not, my daughters are instructed to have them buried with me in a sack.
Your body it’s organs and a progressive.
They make more problems than they ever solve, and get away with it.
With one swift scratch of the pen, the state officially owns the bodies of the citizens.
On to the next ‘progressive’ move.
I think that this is the wrong way to go. Organ donation is a gift not an obligation and should be treated as such. The state should not have the right to claim ownership over your body, even in death. It sets a unwise precedent for further intrusions.
Donation rates are low because most people don’t (or don’t want to) think about it. A better way to increase organ donation is to make the choice mandatory. It is a much more respectful way to treat citizens. It could be done at your doctors clinic, the hospital or with your drivers license. Parents could make the choice for their kids at birth.
Of course to progressives, being against presumed consent will be framed as opposition to organ donation.
Sadly, no parody of the state could be more absurd than the actual machinations of the motley crew presently at the helm.
After I’m gone what do I care what my organs are doing. What is really on my mind is just who is riding my Harley and how is it being ridden. Now that is something that really matters!
Organ donation should be”outside”the health care system.If someone wants to donate or sell their organs after death,fine,then let that expense be on the person that wants them.Organ donation does NOT save lives,it just extends them if the operation is successfull.
2017
Knock knock
Sheriff: Good day madam, are you Louise_____ who received a kidney transplant at the Royal Bollocks Infirmary in 2009?
Louise: Why yes I am.
Sheriff: Madame I must inform you that after a lengthy legal battle the High Court has determined that the body of the deceased forms part of their estate and rightfully belongs to the deceased’s inheritors. Therefore the harvesting of body parts without the consent of the family has been ruled to be theft under !000 BPS, depending on current market rates for kidney. Furthermore as the recipient of stolen goods I am placing you under arrest for possession of stolen property.
Louise: But that transplant allowed me to regain me health, return to work and I was able to support my family over the last six years.
Sheriff: Yes Madame we understand that and a chap from Inland Revenue will be visiting you tomorrow to tally the money that you received during this six year period. All moneys received during this period are deemed to be the proceeds from a crime and will be confiscated by Her Majesty’s Government.
Louise: Where are you taking me?
Sheriff: To the Royal Bollocks Infirmary where said kidney will be removed and held in evidence until the conclusion of your trial.
Louise: Righty oh, just let me get me brolly. Children ! You’re on your own for tea tonight, Mummy has to go to the ospital.
Any guesses as to how long it will take the Brit technocrats to start “chipping” the sheep herd? We don’t want them engagng in risky activities that will diminish the value of the retrievable/marketable organs now do we….as the ramrods of this big abattoir, we have to keep ’em healthy and under control until their value peaks and we harvest.
From “The Meaning of Life”
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| Part V: Live Organ Transplants |
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[violin music]
ANNOUNCER: The Meaning of Life: Part Five: Live Organ Transplants.
[ding dong]
MR. BROWN: [cough] Don’t worry, dear! I’ll get it! [cough]
[ding dong ding dong]
[ding dong ding dong]
MR. BROWN: Yes?
MAN: Hello. Uhh, can we have your liver?
MR. BROWN: My what?
MAN: Your liver. It’s a large, ehh, glandular organ in your abdomen.
ERIC: [sniff]
MAN: You know, it’s, uh,– it’s reddish-brown. It’s sort of, uhh,–
MR. BROWN: Yeah,– y– y– yeah, I know what it is, but… I’m using it, eh.
ERIC: Come on, sir.
MR. BROWN: Hey! Hey! Stop!
ERIC: Don’t muck us about.
MR. BROWN: Stop! Hey! Hey! Stop it. Hey!
MAN: Hallo.
MR. BROWN: Ge– get off.
MAN: What’s this, then? Mmh.
MR. BROWN: A liver donor’s card.
MAN: Need we say more?
ERIC: No!
MR. BROWN: Listen! I can’t give it to you now. It says, ‘in the event of death’. Uh. Oh! Ah. Ah. Eh.
MAN: No one who has ever had their liver taken out by us has survived.
MR. BROWN: Agh.
ERIC: Just lie there, sir. It won’t take a minute.
MR. BROWN: [screaming]
MAN: Zip it up.
MR. BROWN: [screaming]
MRS. BROWN: ‘Ere. What’s going on?
MAN: Uh, he’s donating his liver, madam.
MR. BROWN: [screaming]
MRS. BROWN: Is this because he took out one of those silly cards?
MAN: That’s right, madam.
MR. BROWN: [screaming]
MRS. BROWN: Typical of him!
MR. BROWN: [screaming]
MRS. BROWN: He goes down to the public library, he sees a few signs up,
comes home all full of good intentions.
MR. BROWN: [screaming]
MRS. BROWN: He gives blood. He does cold research. All that sort of thing.
MAN: Oh.
MR. BROWN: [screaming]
ERIC: Ehh.
MRS. BROWN: What do you, uh,– what do you do with them all, anyway?
ERIC: They all go to saving lives, madam.
MRS. BROWN: Mmm. That’s what he used to say. ‘It’s all for the good of the country’ he used to say.
MR. BROWN: [screaming]
MRS. BROWN: Do you think it’s all for the good of the country?
MR. BROWN: [screaming]
MAN: Hm?
MRS. BROWN: Do you think it’s all for the good of the country?
MAN: Well, I wouldn’t know about that, madam. We’re just, uh, doing our jobs, you know.
MR. BROWN: [screaming]
MRS. BROWN: You’re not… doctors, then?
MR. BROWN: [screaming]
MAN: Oh. Blimey no.
MR. BROWN: [screaming]
MAN and ERIC: [laughing]
YOUNG MAN: Mum. Dad. I’m off out now. I’ll see you about seven.
MAN and ERIC: [laughing]
MRS. BROWN: Right-o, son. Look after yourself.
MR. BROWN: [screaming]
MAN: Oh. Now.
ERIC: M-hmm.
MR. BROWN: [screaming]
MRS. BROWN: Do you, um,…
ERIC: [mumble]
MAN: Carry on.
MRS. BROWN: …fancy a cup of tea?
MR. BROWN: [screaming]
MAN: Oh, well, that would be very nice.
MRS. BROWN: Oh.
MAN: Thank you.
MR. BROWN: [screaming]
MAN: Thank you very much, madam.
MR. BROWN: [screaming]
MAN: Thank you.
MR. BROWN: [screaming]
MAN: Oh, eh,– I thought she’d never ask.
ERIC: You know it.
MR. BROWN: [screaming]
MAN: Uhh, you do realise, uh, he has to be, uh,… well, dead,… by the terms of the card, uh, before he donates his liver.
MRS. BROWN: Well, I told him that, but he never listens to me. Silly man!
MR. BROWN: [screaming]
MAN: Only I was wondering, ehh,… well, you know, what you was thinking of doing after that. I mean, [sniff] will you stay on your own,… or is there, uh,… well, someone else, sort of, uh,… on the horizon?
MRS. BROWN: I’m too old for that sort of thing. I’m past my prime.
MAN: Not at all. You’re a very attractive woman.
MRS. BROWN: Well, I’m certainly not thinking of getting hitched up again.
MAN: Sure?
MRS. BROWN: Sure.
[pause]
MAN: Can we have your liver, then?
MRS. BROWN: Oh. No, I’d be… scared.
MAN: All right…
Any true Englishman will resist by downing so much ale that the government won’t want his liver. The Exchequer will still love him, but there are no perfect solutions.
These socialists have it all wrong. You would think they whould be making organ donations illegal altogether. One dead person (organs intact) plus one soon to be dead person equals two less giant carbon footprints. (Some organs would be saved for special elite carbon users like Al Gore, David Suzuki, and any UN scientist willing to sell his soul to the Gore God)
Greg,
You took those thoughts right out of my head. Good one.
Britain should establish a trade link with China where they produce more available organs than the rest of the world needs. Their donors are just sitting around in jail cells waiting for the nod.
Why make new laws in Britain and piss off the locals, get your organs from the professionals in China.
One question … how do the Muslims in Britain feel about taking their organs out to keep an infidel alive or vice versa. Anyone, anyone?
I guess you’d call this “negative option” harvesting eh?
I don’t think we should worry about this in Canada. Remember the huge controversy over Roger’s Cable “negative option” billing, which the government put a speedy end to.
Many people think that I’m to the right of Attila the Hun but I’m all for the harvesting of organs at death. I’ve signed a donor card. If you are too damn lazy to do so or so selfish and uncaring for your fellow humans, you have probably been so your whole life. In that case let the state benefit someone else and no race or religious bigotry must interfere.
It seems to me that it’s time America should invade Britain and rescue British people from under the rule of their anti-human government.
Sure Aaron, why the US. How about the UN, they could send in twenty muzzie divisions, sharia law in two weeks. What happened to the Great Briton of Churchill – sure as hell it is not Great any more. This harvesting will lead to “if we withhold the meds he/she will be dead in two days and we can get his/her organs. Brown is brain dead for supporting this so they might as well take his organs now.
When this proposal was put before parliament three years ago Brown and the government he now leads voted against this. Why is it acceptable now. I am with this commenter….
Sir, I am 62 and have carried a donor card in my wallet since the age of 16. But, if this disgusting Government attempts to add ownership of my corpse to the obscenity of compulsory ID cards for free born Englishmen, I shall tear up the card and replace it with express instructions to the contrary.
Posted by Mr Keith Scott on January 14, 2008 1:04 AM
John West,
Yes, I was wondering the same thing. In the article the writer notes,
“While polls show 90 per cent of Britons are in favour of organ donation, 40 per cent of relatives refuse consent for the organs of their relatives to be donated, a figure which rises to 75 per cent among black and ethnic minorities.”
Wait until the British government discovers they have offended their Muslim overlords with this plan and it will all be quietly dropped.