ONE day, climate change could cost the earth. For now, it is a nice little earner for Russian hunter Alexander Vatagin.
In Siberia’s northernmost reaches, well above the Arctic Circle, the changing temperature is thawing the permafrost to reveal the bones of prehistoric animals such as mammoths, woolly rhinos and lions that have lay buried for thousands of years.
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Back in Chersky, Sergei Davydov, 52, a scientist, keeps the bones he collects to study climate change, but also because they fascinate him. “This tooth has an unusual bump here. The mammoth suffered from a terrible toothache. We can only imagine how he must have roared.”
And we can only imagine he broke it munching on ice.
I heard sound bites from Prof. Tim Ball’s speech at the Canadian institute of climate studies and he stated that 2007 would be the “tipping point” where the “pulp fiction” science of Gore-Suzuki GW would begin to deteriorate in the light of new data.
He seems to be on schedule so far.
Tim Ball’s sound-bites are Tim-bits.
Be cool if we could clone these critters. I could be a mammoth rancher. Watch out for those meadow muffins!
Looks like the animals up there were full of gas and look where it led to.
Mammoth farts. Like an elephant fart, but hairier.
Seems like the mammoth farts led to global cooling? Now cow farts are leading to global warming? Guess it is the quality of the farts that matters? What do Gore/Suzuki farts lead to?
George, it has to do with the hairiness. More hair gives you cooling, less gives you warming.
What we need to do is get Algore and David Suzuki out measuring the hairs on caribou farts. Then we can compare to the baseline hair length of the garden variety cow fart and make up a nice convincing computer model.
With any luck the pair of them will get eaten by an endangered polar bear and finally balance their carbon debt.
WL Mackenzie Redux: Well, Dr. Ball may be correct (of course ET says I am not allowed to question anything he says), but a lot of the stories have unraveled as fast as they could be put out.
For example this is a classic example. Kate posted this story a while ago about a new study that purported to show that there was not a consensus in the peer-reviewed literature. It made quite a splash in a lot of the blogs at the time.
Unfortunately, the magazine to which it was submitted ended up rejecting it (link available upon request). Since the editor of E&E is on the record as giving preference to articles that support her own political point of view, this has led to little humor here and there.
Regards,
John
I just finished a holiday at Loon lake BC. It was cold wet and hit near 0 degrees. Fri.nite Sept 21st it snowed. Personally I think warming is a good thing. I like warm. Now global cooling , that’s SCARY. That’s the 70’s scare.
But oh I forgot a couple years ago the eco-fanatics stopped calling it Global warming and started calling it Climate Change. Something that has been a constant on this planet forever, in fact if there is one thing you can always count on happening it is change. Looks like the eco-fanitics are covering their asses both ways.
“Seems like the mammoth farts led to global cooling? Now cow farts are leading to global warming? Guess it is the quality of the farts that matters? What do Gore/Suzuki farts lead to?”
No, its about quantity. Al Gore hadn’t created a Fart exchange back them, and a company to deal in commodity trading of fart credits. Hence, insufficient farts held in widely distributed portfolios led to a decline in global warming due to a lack of anthropogenic fart credit optimization, and market intensification.
See, its all science. Everybody knows it takes people to facilitate Global Warming. People with venture capital and marketable excess gas.
“What do Gore/Suzuki farts lead to?”
IPCC reports…
John Cross at September 23, 2007 11:18 AM
Yes please John could you send the link, I’d love to read it.
albatros39a@yahoo.ca
Oh and anything Ball says is definitely questionable. I’ve met several of his former colleagues at the U of W and they cringe every time he connects himself with that institution.
http://www.desmogblog.com/directory/quick/
So how cum the Rhinos were there in the first place ?? under all that ice ? Was it warmer when they roamed ? Lots to eat ?? But, but the eco-fanatics scream ‘NOW is the warmest ever’.
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Alan: You are not correct when you say that “couple years ago the eco-fanatics stopped calling it Global warming and started calling it Climate Change.” In fact it was popularized by something called the Luntz memo (see page 142). This was a document that Mr. Luntz produced to help the Republican party use language and words that would help then turn public opinion on an issue or a candidate. To quote from it.
It’s time for us to start talking
about “climate change” instead of global warming and “conservation ” instead of preservation.
1. “Climate change’’ is less frightening than “global wamming; ” As one focus group participant noted, climate change “sounds like you’re going from Pittsburgh to Fort Lauderdale.” While global warming has catastrophic connotations attached to it, climate change suggests a more controllable and less emotional challenge.
Regards,
John
Albatros39a: Here is the link on the study that wasn’t
Regards,
John
OK John I will give you that one. But how come all the eco’s are now using the words Climate Change, it looks like they think the Republicans had a better grasp of the situation.
Suzuki himself defended the term ‘climate change’ in an interview on our beloved The Weather Network.
Ian Sinclair asked the “Guru” (A Craig Oliver compliment) Why the GW > CC change ??
Suzuki; (paraphrasing) Because warming can mean many things. Such as the Atlantic gulf stream being shut down that would then lead to Europe getting colder when the rest of the world is cooking.
Huh ?? Pretty feable, I would say.
And also, a feable explaination from the ‘muddy-the-water-troll here. Conveniently left out the Suzuki/Gore conversion.
Skip, I’m telling you its the hair that makes the difference. Bends the light or something.
I’m going to go get me a million bucks from Environment Canada to study hair length on the farts of polar bears that have indigestion caused eating Algore and Dr. Fruitfly raw.
Y’all can visit my polar bear research station in the Bahamas. Bring some ice for the bears, eh?
I posted the following in *readers tips*, but it would seem to fit here:
Not that anyone who possesses a reasonable amount of intelligence needs any further proof, but here is further evidence that the MSM is bereft of same, or has an agenda.
Seems they can’t, or elect not to, recognize the difference between “…on record” and “… all time”. Perhaps like the difference between several hundred years and several billion years.
Headline from the Telegraph.co.uk:
“Arctic sea ice ‘melts to all-time low’
By Martin Beckford”
Lead paragraph from same:
“Sea ice in the Arctic shrank to the smallest area on record this summer, prompting fears it could melt completely within decades and speed up global warming.”
[http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2007/09/22/eaice122.xml]
I would be most interested to find out exactly how the AGW proponents, and trolls, defend this kind of male-bovine-excrement.
My personal belief is that those who support AGW and also write this kind of drivel are either extremely ignorant, or purposeful liars. Which is it?
Phantom, deal. Lotsa bergy bits breaking off anytime now, so I’ll tow a chunk down. I get dibs on the bonefishing. The “bears” can have the drug dealers that don’t quite make it to Miami. There are several Liberal charity tax shelters going right now that will take 10 years to get through the courts, so we’ll get the money laundered, no problem.
Yoop, I agree, the way they worded the headline is wrong. However I will give them credit that they actually seemed to get it right in the story. In general the media does a very bad job of reporting global warming.
By the way, are you interested in continuing our conversation started here?
Regards,
John
It’s a bit off-topic, but related: Have any of the Kyoto signature countries met their quotas/requirements? I’m interested in the larger more industrialized nations.
It’s a bit off-topic, but related: Have any of the Kyoto signature countries met their quotas/requirements? I’m interested in the larger more industrialized nations.
Posted by: RicardoVerde at September 23, 2007 6:39 PM
RV. Boy. You like asking the simple questions! Simple answer —- NO. Funny though. The US of A, who didn’t sign or ratify, actually have decreased their emmisions. That’s why the Goracle has to try to fleece the sheeple of the rest of the world!
John Cross, I trust you are following climateaudit.org.
Hey, a question for you: if the planet is getting hotter, why has it not gotten hotter since 1998?
And if it is GLOBAL warming, why isn’t happening, like, you know, globally?
…Wimpy’s usual position statement regarding variable climate of short and long time frames.
Thanks!
If no country has taken the steps necessary to meet their treaty requirements, then of what value is the treaty? And despite the rhetoric, doesn’t it mean that the governments consider AGW of lesser importance than economic prosperity?
“If no country has taken the steps necessary to meet their treaty requirements, then of what value is the treaty? And despite the rhetoric, doesn’t it mean that the governments consider AGW of lesser importance than economic prosperity?”
Or, as anybody with a lick of sense and science might deduce, the targets are unattainable in the timeframe, and uncertain in validity. Leftists and hallucinogenics make good technicolor dreams, but offer little substance to base life-altering policy on. Mind-altering perhaps, but not life-altering.
Al & Dave Gorezuki have perfected a fart that emits no greenhouse gas. Its what the rest of us call BRAIN FARTS.
Millions of years ago, the area around Calgary was part of a huge sea. During the dinosaur era, this area was warm, and hosted not only dinosaurs, but also generous vegetation needed to support such large animals. Over millions of years, this vegetation died and settled on the bottom of this sea. As continents shifted, Calgary became part of North America and the sediments were lifted well above sea level.
Calgary today is over 3500 ft above sea level
lol go theguyfromboston.com and click on globalwarming hes got a good response to al gore lol.
Re: Frozen Rhinos and Woolly Mammoths.
Instead of paying scientists to look for frozen turds in the arctic, or cow farts in the stratosphere, we might find a better bang for our buck by paying a modern day Henry Ford (or group of engineers,) to develop a universal type of up to date Model “T” that gives 100 MPG. (US measurements,) zero emmission, and sells for about fifteen thousand $Can.
Where is all this bullshit (no pun intended) getting us? So far all we’ve seen are followers of of the Suzukian Cult such as Stephane Dion who provide lip service but offer no solution or end result, except for their own personal gain in the polls. .
Sitting around a table chattering about the terrible state of the environment will get us nowhere. If indeed there is a solution, why don’t we start looking for it, right here in Western Canada. Remember, Henry Ford was a farmboy!!