Fred Thompson:
CAIR’s dues-paying membership has shrunk 90 percent since 9/11 — from 29,000 in 2000 to only 1,700 last year. CAIR’s annual income from dues plunged from $733,000 to $59,000. Clearly, America’s Muslims are not supporting this group — and I’m happy to hear about it.
Of course, every silver lining seems to have a cloud; and this cloud is that CAIR’s spending is running about $3 million a year. They’ve opened 25 new chapters in major cities across the country even as their dues shrank to a pittance. The question is; who’s funding CAIR? — ABC Radio Networks
Things that make you go “hmmm”.
Why are journalists allowed to live?
A better question is who’s ear CAIR wispers into in congress and where does CAIR stand on illegal immigrant amnesty?
For Fred, go Fred go!!
For BillyHW, huh?
Saudi Arabia funds groups such as CAIR and radical Wahhabi mosques around the world. Since Saudi Arabia gets its money from oil, CAIR is indirectly funded by automobile drivers around the world.
Belisarius beat me to it. This is hitting nail on the head.
“CAIR is indirectly funded by automobile drivers around the world”
Best argument there is for developing alternate energy sources.
I’m liking Fred more and more every day.
Best argument there is for regime change in Saudi Arabia.
Or we could have the Ontario government seize and crush everything bigger than a moped to “send a message” to the Saudis. Greenies would love that, and think of all the jobs for farriers, saddlers and rickshaw pullers that would be created!
Who is funding CAIR …Take one guess … Saudi Arabia.
Who is funding CAIR is one question.
Their motive for doing so is another.
Fred makes a lot, a lot of sense. Always.
Will he survive the attemped Media take-down that is sure to come ??
After all, the media survives by ‘dumbing-down’ the news. A ‘straight shooting’, ‘makes sense’ kinda guy can not be tolerated 🙂
Agreed. Oil money going to ME dictators is great justification for getting off fossil fuels. Not becuase of AGW, or Kyoto, but because of this and the awaiting environmental disaster in China and India as they vastly outpace our emission reductions. OK we get to reduce CO2 as well, so everybody should be happy.
Muslims in America are not providing a public record by financially supporting CAIR? I guess they don’t want the complimentary trip to Gitmo or the free phone monitoring service that comes with each paid membership.*
*offer valid only in regions of eroded constitutional rights
hmmm. lets see…if certain members of a cult/disfunctional religion/militia killed a couple thousand of my fellow citizens, I think I would be ok with said groups being targeted for surveillance, monitoring, and whatever is needed to prevent another attack…..moonbat/dippers may not believe in the war on terror, but real world politik demands that we stay on top of our enemies…just wait until the first suicide bomb is detonated in Canada(hopefully never, but I doubt it)….it will wake up joe hockey and mrs yoga, believe you me!
@shamrock:
I suspect there’s a hidden reason behind the Bush ‘cave-in’ regarding global warming and the supposed dangers of fossil-fuel use…
Actually – kudos to Fred for getting this a little more Mainstream attention!
[ … Bush ‘cave-in’ regarding global warming ..]
What ???
Kyoto died at the recent G8 meeting in Germany.
Japan, Canada, China, India, Australia and the US, among others, isolated the European Union and the United Nations. Case closed.
We will never get off ME oil by going alternate(biofuel) because it takes more energy to them than they release when used. Wind, solar also not viable.
Most Canadians, when bluntly asked(no pussy-footin’ Dionism) want to maintain our lifestyles. We can however use much, much less hydrocarbons — smaller vehicles, ect.
Also, there is a world of oil remaining out there. BC coast, deep Carribean, ect. Fanatic environmentalists are the real problem. Same for no new refineries being built. The Suzukis of the world have us bunged up 🙂
Let’s get real, it’s going to take decades to get off of fossil fuels. Even if NA didn’t buy oil from the Saudis or the UAE, the rest of the world will pick up pace. They won’t be going broke.
The immediate issue at hand is tracking the funding and putting a stop to it. Keep in mind that Saudi funding isn’t necessarily the gov’t, there are plenty of Saudis/UAE wealthy that privately fund terrorist groups. Bin Laden has funding, most likely from members of his family in spite of their denials.
The best remedy of all is irrefutably proving CAIR has ties to terrorism and cutting their oxygen off legally.
It appears the guy who comes out telling it like it is will win the day. The US is closer to that awakening than Canada but there are signs we may be getting there.
It’s about time and it’s crucial we face up to the realities our trusting natures have allowed to be served upon us through immigration of people who are at odds with our way of life.
Bush ‘cave-in’ regarding global warming
Hardly, the US was never going to sign on to the Kyoto ponzi scheme, another shakedown transfer of wealth organized by the left.
As a US taxpayer, I refuse to give China, India and Brazil a free ride.
“China has overtaken the United States as the world’s biggest producer of carbon dioxide, the chief greenhouse gas, figures released today show.”
penny:
The best remedy of all is irrefutably proving CAIR has ties to terrorism and cutting their oxygen off legally.
Indeed. But the Saudi thing goes so much deeper than the funding of the islamist mosques and front groups, namely: post-retirement “pensions” to the political elite of both parties.
Book recommendation: Dore Gold, Hatred’s Kingdom (Saudi Arabia). A life-changing read.
I am as anti-Islam as they come. But I cannot ignore the irony in having the USA (a nation that has never shirked when it comes to covertly interfering in the affairs of foreign nations) being covertly undermined within by Saudi Arabia. What goes around……..
“CAIR is indirectly funded by automobile drivers around the world.
Posted by: Belisarius at June 21, 2007 10:27 AM”
For Dogs sake, Belisarius, don’t give the leftards yet another reason to punish the innocent masses by calling for the banning of automobiles. 🙂
CAIR is indirectly funded by automobile drivers around the world
This is nonsense. This is equivalent to saying that steel smelter owners are indirectly responsible for gun crimes.
Thompson looks good on paper. I worry he does not have the depth for the job, but I guess he can hardly be weaker in that regard than the incumbent.Sure was a nice post he, or rather one of his staffers who clearly reads LGF, wrote though.
It bothers me that if the US could marshall its human and natural resources they could eliminate their dependency on foreign oil, but instead they lurch on like this, forever at the beck and call of idiot savages who happen to have been born on top of an ocean of black gold. The Saudi / Kuwaity / UAE connection should be cut, and the entire middle east should be left to drown in its savagery and backwardness. Let Europe have them.
I am also less than confident that the Americans have it left in them to elect another republican for 2008, but certainly Thompson and Giuliani at least have a hope in hell. None of the others do. I am at LGF a lot, and look at the debates there, and wonder whether the American LGF’ers who rail against those two and want the much more hard-line candidates like Romney, would prefer to have Billary or Osama in the White House.
Currently Thompson is polling at the top of the GOP, ahead of Guilliani, and he hasn’t even announced whether he’s going to run.
I like this guy. Smart enough to kick Islamic and liberal ass all over the place.
CAIR – US government has named them unindited co-conspirators in terrorist fund-raising. Now to crush the life out of them.
I like my internal combustion engine as much as the next guy, but the simple fact is that to run them we need to import oil from unfriendly middle-east states. Hence we indirectly support terrorism by funding it. It doesn’t make us responsible, it just makes us the source of the money.
In the case of the Taliban, some of the money also comes from opium poppies grown in Afghanistan and Pakistan. So it would be equally accurate to say that heroin addicts in Europe and North America are indirectly funding terrorism.
Forget GW. The best argmument for alternative energy sources is the use ME countries make of the massive quantities of cash we send them.
This is equivalent to saying that steel smelter owners are indirectly responsible for gun crimes.
Stupid analogy. Now, if the steel smelter owners were using the proceeds of their sales to pay gun owners to murder people of a different faith the analogy might be closer to the mark.
While I have never been one to believe the conspiracty theories that Exxon and their ilk are committing criminal actions to hold back development of non-gasoline powered vehicles, it seems clear that there is a distinct lack of government and industry interest in addressing this issue, and I wonder how much of this is due to lobbying by industry, and buying out of those companies and reserach facilities that might have developed these types of technology.
“The ‘something other than’ gasoline engine conspiracy” ??
First time I heard of this was in 1966.
Whatever the inventions must have been, a lot of people have sure kept quite —– took it to the grave, file away in a hell of a good safe, n’ all that.
Didn’t matter if the super-carburator was real or imaginary —- the auto industry went EFI. And Exxon couldn’t stop em’.
Get over it. Gasoline just happens to be the most versatile fuel going right now. Punch per gallon —- much more than propane. No need to be pressurized with one inch thick walls, a la hydrogen. Quickly “recharged”, no need for an overnighter beside a 220 outlet.
Might say the Arabs have us by the short n’ curlies — unless we start developing more of our own wells, which we have.
Consider how up-the-creek we would be if todays typical family sedan still got 20 mph(12L/100km) instead of the present day 40mph(24L/100km) !!
Big oil did not stop the ‘wheels’ makers from doubling fuel economy the last 40 years.
Perhaps Suzuki and the boys are not telling the real story on that one either.
We all want the solution now. It won’t happen – the solution is a much longer process which requires much effort and sacrifice under the right conditions to flourish. Peace in the ME will require fundamental change in Islam with a strong democratic moderate voice. That’s a tough flower to grow in a desert filled with centuries of searing hate. Unless individuals in the ME choose to moderate and integrate with the rest of the world the escalation in terror and violence will continue.
If strong efforts continue in identified extremist hotspots and conditions continue to improve true change may still be a generation away. N. Ireland is a prime example of how slow hate dies in a state that was filled with religious violence.
Good grief! Why risk trying to land a chopper on that speedboat if the operator(s) refuse to stop? Just blow the frikk’n thing out of the water. End of story.
Whoops…
Disregard above – wrong thread.
How did that happen???
“Peace in the ME will require fundamental change in Islam with a strong democratic moderate voice.”
Hey Martin! They have it. According to Jimma”the peanut” Cahter, Hamas is a legal,democratically elected gubermint. So what’s the problem? Or do you like their “method” of democratic solutions???
But I cannot ignore the irony in having the USA (a nation that has never shirked when it comes to covertly interfering in the affairs of foreign nations) being covertly undermined within by Saudi Arabia. What goes around……..
Hey, this may be hard for your anti-American mind to process, but, there are no central planners directing America’s foreign policy. The stupidity of one administration gets erased with each election cycle. It’s how democracy works. Thirty years of Lib monopoly in Canada might render you unable to understand this.
The USA, like it’s foreign counterparts, exercises statecraft in it’s best interest as it should. Got any insightful comments on Putin’s or Chavez’s undermining, let’s see, human rights, their neighbor’s democracy, etc? Got any opinion on the pretty obvious enduring Islamic undermining of other country’s democratic process? Bombings as a political weapon? Haven’t noticed? No surprise.
I am as anti-Islam as they come.
Nice try. You are nothing short of another smarmy lefty of the moral equivalence mentality.
Justthinkin: “Hey Martin! They have it.”
No they don’t. Rarely do moderate muslims take a stand without having protection from violent extremists. If moderates do take a stand they end up another nightly news statistic. That means no moderate voice to offset the radicals. It’s not democracy, it’s just the Palestinian version of 1984.
When individuals are empowered in the ME with respected rights and freedoms (i.e. things that aren’t allowed to exist by their current Islamic leadership) things will change for the better. That will take strong vision, sacrifice and time.