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I heard this on the news this morning and thought here go the French – surrendering again at the first opportunity. Some things never change.
“Cheese eating surrender monkeys”, Bart Simpson
Ya gotta love the paraphrasing of Neville Chamberlain!
We could take a lesson from France here in Cananadada. Lets all go on strike until we get all our entitlements. I’d like to be paid to go fishing for the rest of my life. Productivity? That’s an American thing.
Yes, immediate surrender – to the mob, aka the unions and an irrational utopian socialism.
The unions and the ideology of the welfare state that provides the ‘pur laine’ with a permanent income unrelated to work (you can’t be fired for incompetence, for not doing the work) – have won. The French 35 hour work week, the numerous vacations, the medicare..
But – How can the French afford to support a population on semi-permanent vacation?
Then- there are the ‘banlieu’s’ – with their Non pur laine (immigrant) population, primarily Muslim, and primarily unemployed, and primarily loyal to the country-of-origin. How can the French state maintain them as ‘invisible’?
France’s income can’t come from its population – half of whom are unemployed and half of whom are primarily drawing a permanent paycheque for no work. So? Does its incomce come from its colonies, which are theoretically independent, but operationally set up to provide France with basic resources? From its network of ties and economic links with the Arab world? France wants to lead ‘Eurabia’ – which would enable its ‘home population’ to continue their life-of-leisure (for the pur laine) or enforced unemployed idleness (for the banlieu population)…. Can it achieve this?
Ditto.
Why would anyone want to go to the trouble to create a job in that country?
The Czech Republic, Poland, Slovakia, and Hungary must me grinning from ear to ear. They are already benefitting from Western Euro companies relocating…this will simply speed the trend. France is dead; if the Islamo-fascists don’t destroy it, the socialists will.
“Cheese eating surrender monkeys”, Bart Simpson
Posted by Canard at April 10, 2006 11:23 AM
I thought that was Groundskeeper Willie.
Canadian Infidel
During more than two centuries since the revolution, France has never developed a democratic tradition. Mob rule has been the norm and this latest lunacy will persist until/unless a future mob decides to overthrow the Republic and try something else.
France, in the face of adversity, will solidly and steadfastly choose to run like hell the other way.
What else is new… They haven’t stood their ground since Waterloo.
Except the Legion… course, most of them are not French.
There, but by the grace of about a third of the the Canadian electorate goes our nation. The Lib-Dippers would / will eventually take us there. Our growing public sector unions are already there.
It takes a Margaret Thatcher to clean up a mess like France.
FYI — France had never won a war either. Check it out.
Sadly, they are the role model for Quebec.
Dis ain’t ohva!
I am enjoying their decay however …
And today thousands of illegal aliens in the US will march to “demand rights” (like–WTF?) and do you think GWB will do anything different than Chirac did but appease in some way? You can’t deal with a mob with an iron fist. It will eventually bring you down. You deal with the mob by being sweet, but use the iron fist in enforcing the law on idividuals.
If I personally were in that situation I’d be highly inclined to hose all those rioters and illegals. But my mind tells me that the price to pay is far too high. They will have found their “cause” and so will the media and eventually the public. You will be doomed.
Now this is domestic policy. Foreign policy on the other hand requires an absolute iron fist, no questions asked.
And yes, it was grounds-keeper Willy. He was teaching French class during school budget cuts.
A dirge for the people of Zimbabwe who have neutered/spayed themselves in submission/obeisance to socialism.
Woe to Zimbabwe.
Down with socialism. +
We deserve no sympathy (we Zimbabweans remained unarmed and cowardly in the face of Mugabe)
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NewZimbabwe.com ^ | 04/09/2006 22:53:56 | Masola wa Dabudabu
I SHALL start with the things we have done in an effort to shake Robert Mugabe off our weary backs. We have shied away from confrontation. In our meekness as Zimbabweans, we have offered our spears, shields, knobkerries and clubs to Mugabe in a self-defeating stance of pacifism. We have avoided our right to defend ourselves from aggression by assuming that if we remain unarmed and cowardly, Mugabe the aggressor may not attack us. We have shamelessly sold out our dignity to Mugabe�s wicked ways. The proverbial phoenix may never rise again. We deserve the humiliation; for in our expedience… + more http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/browse
I frankly don’t see the fuss over Zimbabwe.
Didn’t we all call for an end to the nasty Ian Smith White Rhodesian regime?
Didn’t we all want the fearless liberation fighters of ZANU-ZAPU to take the helm?
Well, Ian Smith is no more and Robert Mugabe is the great leader.
The Zimbabwean people – and the West – got what they wanted.
Nothing to see here, folks. Move along now…
The French mobs first took to the streets when they overthrew the monarchy. After the monarchs were gone, they wouldn’t stop rioting until a junior officer in the army was given the task. He set up cannons loaded with grape shot in the streets and announced he would fire on the mobs. They didn’t believe him. He fired. The riots ended. His name was Bonaparte. Unfortunately, that’s the only way to stop continuous rioting, but no-one in the west has the guts to do it. The Chinese did it a Tianamin on a peaceful protest and got away with it, but it’s politically impossible for western nations.
Duke, they did okay under the little dude, course he was Corsican, not French, so that probably explains the wins… nothing after 1812 though. It’s aweful but it’s true, as a collective the French are a bunch of pussies.
Individually is another matter. We have many fine French peoples serving in the Canadian Military… with an Englishman at their back to make sure they don’t run away (Joke, it was a joke).
…..“other measures to tackle youth unemployment”….
I have a suggestion. Complete mass conversion to Islam now, let the Saudi Central Bank mail you all living allowances and be done with it. Spare the rest of us from watching your sorry asses grovel and whine your way into obliion.
I’m for moving the graves of our WWII vets off French soil now.
I’d rather we just moved the French off French soil (along witht he Muslims) and colonised it with Englishmen…
Before the Battle of Agincourt in 1415, the French, anticipating victory over the English, proposed to cut off the middle finger of all captured English soldiers,
Without the middle finger it would be impossible to draw the renowned English longbow and therefore they would be incapable of fighting in the future. This famous English longbow was made of the native English Yew tree, and the act of drawing the longbow was known as “plucking the yew” (or “pluck yew”).
Much to the bewilderment of the French, the English won a major upset and began mocking the French by waving their middle fingers at the defeated French, saying, See, we can still pluck yew!
Since ‘pluck yew’ is rather difficult to say, the difficult consonant cluster at the beginning has gradually changed to a labiodentals fricative F’, and thus the words often used in conjunction with the one-finger-salute!
It is also because of the pheasant feathers on the arrows used with the longbow that the symbolic gesture is known as “giving the bird.”
IT IS STILL AN APPROPRIATE SALUTE TO THE FRENCH TODAY!
Canard; LOL! Thanks for that! Has the makings of a great t-shirt. Especially in light of the headline in the Edmonton Journal today; that Quebec thinks it’s being shortchanged and is demanding more from Alberta.
Lotsa hatred levelled at the french. Lots of revisionist history too.
The law being protested was a P.O.S., where an employer could fire a young employee within two years of hiring him, without giving a reason. Sounds worth fighting against to me.
But back to my main point, calling a group of people “Cheeze eating surrender monkeys” is a hell of a lot like calling black people N***ers. Racist. Ugly. NON-Canadian!
So lets stop the bigotry, okay?
Albertan Technophile: The French aren’t a race, they are a state of mind.
JJM said: “The Zimbabwean people – and the West – got what they wanted.”
Democrat Jimmy Carter betrayed the people of Zimbabwe. Jimmah Carter, that is. +
The pressure that the U. S. used on the white government of Rhodesia was exerted in order to bring Soviet client Robert Mugabe to power.
When voters in Zimbabwe, the former Rhodesia, elected a black Methodist bishop, Abel Muzorewa, the Carter Administration would not lift the sanctions in place to protest colonial rule that served as a barrier to U. S. trade and investment in the African nation. When the sanctions forced a second election, and voters chose Mugabe as their head of state (mostly, as the Freedom House report on the balloting indicates, at gunpoint). The Carter Administration not only lifted sanctions but gifted the new prime minister millions in U. S. aid.
Currently, Mugabe, who is still Zimbabwe�s chief executive, is trying to maintain power by subduing real and perceived opponents, a process that involves bulldozing churches, orphanages, and mosques. + http://www.campusreportonline.net/main/articles.php?id=467
“The law being protested was a P.O.S., where an employer could fire a young employee within two years of hiring him, without giving a reason.”
That’s the way it works in the real world of capitalism and private businesses, my friend. Last hired, first fired. And what should a company, if it needs to cut staff to enhance profits to shareholders(think pensioners depending on them too via IRA’s), do? Keep dead beat French interns for life? Employers understand the entrapment they face in France. That’s why they won’t and haven’t been hiring the little entitled weasels.
Have you looked recently at the US airlines and GM’s sorry mess thanks to the greed of over-paid jobs-for-life unions?
I’m guessing because you are clueless regarding economics, have a highly developed sense of employee entitlement and are a pc vigilante you work in the job-for-life public sector?
Their most famous war hero is a sixteen year old girl!!!
Steyn wrote a good one, From “Snooze They Lose”
All those heavyweight scholars who immortalized between hard covers my cheap Eurinal-of-history aside did so because it was so self-evidently risible. Well, it looks a lot less so in 2006 than it did in 2002. The trap the French political class are caught in is summed up by the twin pincers of the fall and spring riot seasons. The fall 2005 rioters were “youths” (i.e. Muslims from the suburbs), supposedly alienated by lack of economic opportunity. The spring 2006 rioters are “youths” (i.e. pampered Sorbonne deadbeats), protesting a new law that would enable employers to terminate the contracts of employees under the age of 26 in their first jobs, after two years.
To which the response of most North Americans is: you mean, you can’t right now? No, you can’t. If you hire a 20-year-old and take a dislike to his work three months in, tough: chances are you’re stuck with him till mid-century. In France’s immobilized economy, it’s all but impossible to get fired. Which is why it’s all but impossible to get hired. Especially if you belong to that first category of “youths” from the Muslim ghettos, where unemployment is around 40 to 50 per cent. The second group of “youths” — the Sorbonne set — protesting the proposed new, more flexible labour law ought to be able to understand that it’s both necessary to the nation and, indeed, in their own self-interest: they are after all their nation’s elite. Yet they’re like lemmings striking over the right to a steeper cliff.
yes, the French win when they let the girl run the show… as for the other clowns… uff.
I liked the movie… but it may have been only Leelee Sobieski playing the part in Joan of Arc…
so the french again throw in the towel? ok, the left and their unions win again, but no, you’re not hired…
as for Robert Mugabe (“Bob” to you and I…)
good summation of his �3.75 millions castle (3 acres of accommodation, 25 bedrooms…) in Zimbabwe
while the msm report elsewhere that the people of his country do not have enough grain to plant this years crop, never mine to eat until harvest… http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/08/27/wzim27.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/08/27/ixnewstop.html
which only makes me think, where will Jimmy and Roselin sleep?
Seems the French have ingrained a system of employment immobility similar to what the Roman Emperor Diocletian implemented with disastrous results. But then who needs economic history? That was two-thousand years ago and we’re soooooo much smarter now!
“I’m guessing because you are clueless regarding economics, have a highly developed sense of employee entitlement and are a pc vigilante you work in the job-for-life public sector?”
Wouldya believe that I’m terminally ill (Life expectancy less than two years) with ALS? Before I got sick I had dual trades (Pipefitter and Power engineer) and worked six days a week in a NON-union shop, and I liked it that way. No BS union regs, no dues, I was given a blueprint, and I built multi-million dollar compressors and was paid FAT cheques.
In Canada when you hire someone, you can fire em without stating a reason for six months after thier first day. After that, you must give a reason or face probable litigation.
PC vigilantie? Hardly. But I know whats right, and whats wrong. And I’ll stand (long as I can) for what I believe.
Would that bigotry be the same that the french immersion teachers in our school practice depending on who you are or where you learned your french? Or possibly the the way the nice little french school in St. Albert, currently advertising, so vehemntly protects it admission requirements? Just wondering.
The French aren’t a race, they are a state of mind.
LOL. I think they are a wanning cuisine and nothing more. California and Australia have as good, if not better, wines. Their hayday as pinnacle of gourmet food isn’t there anymore. (The food at the Frontier in Albuquerque and Mr Piggy Poke Barbeque in rural NC will bring real tears to your eyes and the staff is nice.)
I’m not a fashion hound. Drudge has a link sometimes to their edgy “haute couture” crap which is so French, hackneyed and laughable. (I guess under a burqa they’ll be free to be outrageous?)
Oh, and their “deconstructionist” nitwit intelligencia contribution to academia, put a fork in it.
I guess what I’m saying in my best non-pc manner is that the French are the most useless morons that ever occupied a place on the map. They’ve never done a thing to me personally. Their history of spineless surrender in the face of historic moral choices, cultural arrogance, snail eating and mimes(Marcel Marceau?, gag) hasn’t impressed this old gal.
France is a cautionary tale of the socialist disease at its terminal end that we, in this hemiphere, must rise against.
Well, Technophile, you still haven’t answered my questions: And what should a company, if it needs to cut staff to enhance profits to shareholders(think pensioners depending on them too via IRA’s), do? Keep dead beat French interns for life?
My questions were posed against the backdrop of your statement: The law being protested was a P.O.S., where an employer could fire a young employee within two years of hiring him, without giving a reason.
The balls in your court.
Heh, I’m just a blue-collar Joe…
Should a corp. cut jobs to ENHANCE thier profits? This ain’t black and white. Two answers okay?
If they do what Shaw cable did and cut 2500 good paying jobs in Canada so they can farm ’em out to India, they’re wrong to do so. Thats a shit thing to do. Makes excellent business sense, but its still a BAD thing to do.
If the corp has more staff than they need to effectively operate, or if they are having rough times, layoffs are Justified. But they can go too far, one Feedmill I worked in as a boilerman cut thier people to the bone, firing almost all thier maintenence men. The place was falling apart and they ended up replacing big money machines that cose many times what a maintenence man cost in a year.
But this French law is an aweful piece of work. The employers would be able to hang the young workers jobs over thier heads for three years. What would a young employee say if the employer asked him to take a cut in pay? Or to come in on OT unpaid? If a was a young fella, and in that situation, I’d see the writing on the wall. In a country with 20% unemployment, I’d suck it up and roll over for em.
Still think the law is just?
Still think the law is just?
Well, your examples support that if one is unhappy with a job or the company isn’t functioning well a worker can and will pack up and seek greener pastures. Sadly, in the glorious worker’s paradise of socialist job-for-life France there is no place to go for alternative employment.
See the paradox?
No employer owes you a cradle to grave paycheck. Staying solvent and making a profit is a private company’s responsibility first and foremost. Otherwise, like GM’s present situation, the company dies and to the stupidity of the inflexible union workers they go down with it. They wouldn’t concede an inch. Very French. Soon all of the union idiots will be unemployed.
Any employer can change the rules. That’s life. Suck it up or leave. The short-sighted French students have annihilated that option in the long run for themselves.
I don’t think you are really getting the WHY of their 20% unemployment. The fools are the why.
Heh. This is the realworld. I know that. No company owes anyone a job, the employee EARNS the right to work by doing his job and not causing trouble. BUT, the road goes both ways, the employee needs some protection from the government to ensure that he’s treated decently.
Be damn glad you live here in Canada, (assuming you do) where there are some decent labor laws.
Bet we agree on that 🙂
As for your Anti-union feelings, we share those. I’ve worked both union and non-union, on the floor with the blue collar boys, and I VASTLY perfer non-union. Its nice to talk to a foreman without a union rep. taking notes.
You work behind a desk, right?
Charles Martel won a significant battle in 732 stopping an Arab army attacking Europe. So the French have won a war.
This is directed to Albertan Technophile. According to you, someone quoting Bart Simpson (Matt Groening’s cartoon character) is a racist. I apologize for quoting the wrong character.
The phrase was first used by the dour Scottish character Groundskeeper Willie in the television cartoon series The Simpsons to describe the French. The “surrender” element of the phrase refers to the rapid collapse of French military resistance in 1940 in the face of the German forces, and the subsequent collaboration by the Vichy government. The implicit characterization of the French as cowards, and the description of the Battle of France as a surrender is�as promulgators of the phrase likely intend�regarded by many as highly offensive.
The Simpsons episode “‘Round Springfield” first aired on April 30, 1995; in it the local school, Springfield Elementary, has succumbed to budget cuts. Lunchlady Doris states, “they’ve even got Groundskeeper Willie teaching French.” The next shot is of Willie as a teacher, saying “‘bonjourrrrr, you cheese-eatin’ surrender monkeys!” The character of Groundskeeper Willie is known for his grumpiness and animosity; he reserves particular venom for the French. His attempt to speak French with an extremely heavy accent provides much of the comedy in the scene. According to the DVD commentary of the episode, the line was likely (but not certainly) written by Ken Keeler.
Please note the use of the word “comedy” in the aforementioned.
Individually, the French are brave but collectively, their governments have a history, dating back centuries, of cowardly acts. This latest surrender to a group of street thugs serves as a perfect example. I realize that the phrase “Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys” may be offensive to your political correctness sensibilities but that’s your problem and the French leadership’s.
BTW, Je suis fran�ais. Ma m�re est fran�aise. Je puis tracer mon h�ritage aux huguenots. Vos avis me m�nent � croire que vous �tes un abruti. Au moins je puis voir l’ironie et le Deja Vu historique dans cette situation.
Ayez un beau jour.
“The “surrender” element of the phrase refers to the rapid collapse of French military resistance in 1940 in the face of the German forces, and the subsequent collaboration by the Vichy government.”
The British were there, in force to help defend France. They got thier asses handed to em too, and the result was the evacuation of Dunkirk. While the French Gvt. caved, the French army fought with distinction all the way through the war. The French resistance provided vital intelligance to the allies through thre german occupation.
The French Gvt.’s idiotic leadership is worthy of the vitrol levelled against it. But not the French people.
My family came from France into Canada in the 1630s, My generation was the first not to speak French in the home. So, yeah I’ll take offence at anti-french racism. Considering my family has served in WWI, WWII, and Korea WITH DISTINCTION, we don’t need to be insulted.
“we don’t need to be insulted.”
Perhaps insults might help change them to a more respectable image if they knew what that image is.
It might also save some cheese-eating -surrender-monkey’s lives.
This PC stuff is getting us killed!
I heard this on the news this morning and thought here go the French – surrendering again at the first opportunity. Some things never change.
“Cheese eating surrender monkeys”, Bart Simpson
Ya gotta love the paraphrasing of Neville Chamberlain!
We could take a lesson from France here in Cananadada. Lets all go on strike until we get all our entitlements. I’d like to be paid to go fishing for the rest of my life. Productivity? That’s an American thing.
Yes, immediate surrender – to the mob, aka the unions and an irrational utopian socialism.
The unions and the ideology of the welfare state that provides the ‘pur laine’ with a permanent income unrelated to work (you can’t be fired for incompetence, for not doing the work) – have won. The French 35 hour work week, the numerous vacations, the medicare..
But – How can the French afford to support a population on semi-permanent vacation?
Then- there are the ‘banlieu’s’ – with their Non pur laine (immigrant) population, primarily Muslim, and primarily unemployed, and primarily loyal to the country-of-origin. How can the French state maintain them as ‘invisible’?
France’s income can’t come from its population – half of whom are unemployed and half of whom are primarily drawing a permanent paycheque for no work. So? Does its incomce come from its colonies, which are theoretically independent, but operationally set up to provide France with basic resources? From its network of ties and economic links with the Arab world? France wants to lead ‘Eurabia’ – which would enable its ‘home population’ to continue their life-of-leisure (for the pur laine) or enforced unemployed idleness (for the banlieu population)…. Can it achieve this?
Ditto.
Why would anyone want to go to the trouble to create a job in that country?
The Czech Republic, Poland, Slovakia, and Hungary must me grinning from ear to ear. They are already benefitting from Western Euro companies relocating…this will simply speed the trend. France is dead; if the Islamo-fascists don’t destroy it, the socialists will.
“Cheese eating surrender monkeys”, Bart Simpson
Posted by Canard at April 10, 2006 11:23 AM
I thought that was Groundskeeper Willie.
Canadian Infidel
During more than two centuries since the revolution, France has never developed a democratic tradition. Mob rule has been the norm and this latest lunacy will persist until/unless a future mob decides to overthrow the Republic and try something else.
France, in the face of adversity, will solidly and steadfastly choose to run like hell the other way.
What else is new… They haven’t stood their ground since Waterloo.
Except the Legion… course, most of them are not French.
There, but by the grace of about a third of the the Canadian electorate goes our nation. The Lib-Dippers would / will eventually take us there. Our growing public sector unions are already there.
It takes a Margaret Thatcher to clean up a mess like France.
FYI — France had never won a war either. Check it out.
Sadly, they are the role model for Quebec.
Dis ain’t ohva!
I am enjoying their decay however …
And today thousands of illegal aliens in the US will march to “demand rights” (like–WTF?) and do you think GWB will do anything different than Chirac did but appease in some way? You can’t deal with a mob with an iron fist. It will eventually bring you down. You deal with the mob by being sweet, but use the iron fist in enforcing the law on idividuals.
If I personally were in that situation I’d be highly inclined to hose all those rioters and illegals. But my mind tells me that the price to pay is far too high. They will have found their “cause” and so will the media and eventually the public. You will be doomed.
Now this is domestic policy. Foreign policy on the other hand requires an absolute iron fist, no questions asked.
And yes, it was grounds-keeper Willy. He was teaching French class during school budget cuts.
A dirge for the people of Zimbabwe who have neutered/spayed themselves in submission/obeisance to socialism.
Woe to Zimbabwe.
Down with socialism. +
We deserve no sympathy (we Zimbabweans remained unarmed and cowardly in the face of Mugabe)
Posted by dead
On 04/10/2006 8:06:27 AM PDT � 11 replies � 282+ views
NewZimbabwe.com ^ | 04/09/2006 22:53:56 | Masola wa Dabudabu
I SHALL start with the things we have done in an effort to shake Robert Mugabe off our weary backs. We have shied away from confrontation. In our meekness as Zimbabweans, we have offered our spears, shields, knobkerries and clubs to Mugabe in a self-defeating stance of pacifism. We have avoided our right to defend ourselves from aggression by assuming that if we remain unarmed and cowardly, Mugabe the aggressor may not attack us. We have shamelessly sold out our dignity to Mugabe�s wicked ways. The proverbial phoenix may never rise again. We deserve the humiliation; for in our expedience… + more
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/browse
I frankly don’t see the fuss over Zimbabwe.
Didn’t we all call for an end to the nasty Ian Smith White Rhodesian regime?
Didn’t we all want the fearless liberation fighters of ZANU-ZAPU to take the helm?
Well, Ian Smith is no more and Robert Mugabe is the great leader.
The Zimbabwean people – and the West – got what they wanted.
Nothing to see here, folks. Move along now…
The French mobs first took to the streets when they overthrew the monarchy. After the monarchs were gone, they wouldn’t stop rioting until a junior officer in the army was given the task. He set up cannons loaded with grape shot in the streets and announced he would fire on the mobs. They didn’t believe him. He fired. The riots ended. His name was Bonaparte. Unfortunately, that’s the only way to stop continuous rioting, but no-one in the west has the guts to do it. The Chinese did it a Tianamin on a peaceful protest and got away with it, but it’s politically impossible for western nations.
Duke, they did okay under the little dude, course he was Corsican, not French, so that probably explains the wins… nothing after 1812 though. It’s aweful but it’s true, as a collective the French are a bunch of pussies.
Individually is another matter. We have many fine French peoples serving in the Canadian Military… with an Englishman at their back to make sure they don’t run away (Joke, it was a joke).
…..“other measures to tackle youth unemployment”….
I have a suggestion. Complete mass conversion to Islam now, let the Saudi Central Bank mail you all living allowances and be done with it. Spare the rest of us from watching your sorry asses grovel and whine your way into obliion.
I’m for moving the graves of our WWII vets off French soil now.
I’d rather we just moved the French off French soil (along witht he Muslims) and colonised it with Englishmen…
Before the Battle of Agincourt in 1415, the French, anticipating victory over the English, proposed to cut off the middle finger of all captured English soldiers,
Without the middle finger it would be impossible to draw the renowned English longbow and therefore they would be incapable of fighting in the future. This famous English longbow was made of the native English Yew tree, and the act of drawing the longbow was known as “plucking the yew” (or “pluck yew”).
Much to the bewilderment of the French, the English won a major upset and began mocking the French by waving their middle fingers at the defeated French, saying, See, we can still pluck yew!
Since ‘pluck yew’ is rather difficult to say, the difficult consonant cluster at the beginning has gradually changed to a labiodentals fricative F’, and thus the words often used in conjunction with the one-finger-salute!
It is also because of the pheasant feathers on the arrows used with the longbow that the symbolic gesture is known as “giving the bird.”
IT IS STILL AN APPROPRIATE SALUTE TO THE FRENCH TODAY!
Canard; LOL! Thanks for that! Has the makings of a great t-shirt. Especially in light of the headline in the Edmonton Journal today; that Quebec thinks it’s being shortchanged and is demanding more from Alberta.
Lotsa hatred levelled at the french. Lots of revisionist history too.
The law being protested was a P.O.S., where an employer could fire a young employee within two years of hiring him, without giving a reason. Sounds worth fighting against to me.
But back to my main point, calling a group of people “Cheeze eating surrender monkeys” is a hell of a lot like calling black people N***ers. Racist. Ugly. NON-Canadian!
So lets stop the bigotry, okay?
Albertan Technophile: The French aren’t a race, they are a state of mind.
JJM said: “The Zimbabwean people – and the West – got what they wanted.”
Democrat Jimmy Carter betrayed the people of Zimbabwe. Jimmah Carter, that is. +
The pressure that the U. S. used on the white government of Rhodesia was exerted in order to bring Soviet client Robert Mugabe to power.
When voters in Zimbabwe, the former Rhodesia, elected a black Methodist bishop, Abel Muzorewa, the Carter Administration would not lift the sanctions in place to protest colonial rule that served as a barrier to U. S. trade and investment in the African nation. When the sanctions forced a second election, and voters chose Mugabe as their head of state (mostly, as the Freedom House report on the balloting indicates, at gunpoint). The Carter Administration not only lifted sanctions but gifted the new prime minister millions in U. S. aid.
Currently, Mugabe, who is still Zimbabwe�s chief executive, is trying to maintain power by subduing real and perceived opponents, a process that involves bulldozing churches, orphanages, and mosques. +
http://www.campusreportonline.net/main/articles.php?id=467
“The law being protested was a P.O.S., where an employer could fire a young employee within two years of hiring him, without giving a reason.”
That’s the way it works in the real world of capitalism and private businesses, my friend. Last hired, first fired. And what should a company, if it needs to cut staff to enhance profits to shareholders(think pensioners depending on them too via IRA’s), do? Keep dead beat French interns for life? Employers understand the entrapment they face in France. That’s why they won’t and haven’t been hiring the little entitled weasels.
Have you looked recently at the US airlines and GM’s sorry mess thanks to the greed of over-paid jobs-for-life unions?
I’m guessing because you are clueless regarding economics, have a highly developed sense of employee entitlement and are a pc vigilante you work in the job-for-life public sector?
Their most famous war hero is a sixteen year old girl!!!
Steyn wrote a good one, From “Snooze They Lose”
All those heavyweight scholars who immortalized between hard covers my cheap Eurinal-of-history aside did so because it was so self-evidently risible. Well, it looks a lot less so in 2006 than it did in 2002. The trap the French political class are caught in is summed up by the twin pincers of the fall and spring riot seasons. The fall 2005 rioters were “youths” (i.e. Muslims from the suburbs), supposedly alienated by lack of economic opportunity. The spring 2006 rioters are “youths” (i.e. pampered Sorbonne deadbeats), protesting a new law that would enable employers to terminate the contracts of employees under the age of 26 in their first jobs, after two years.
To which the response of most North Americans is: you mean, you can’t right now? No, you can’t. If you hire a 20-year-old and take a dislike to his work three months in, tough: chances are you’re stuck with him till mid-century. In France’s immobilized economy, it’s all but impossible to get fired. Which is why it’s all but impossible to get hired. Especially if you belong to that first category of “youths” from the Muslim ghettos, where unemployment is around 40 to 50 per cent. The second group of “youths” — the Sorbonne set — protesting the proposed new, more flexible labour law ought to be able to understand that it’s both necessary to the nation and, indeed, in their own self-interest: they are after all their nation’s elite. Yet they’re like lemmings striking over the right to a steeper cliff.
yes, the French win when they let the girl run the show… as for the other clowns… uff.
I liked the movie… but it may have been only Leelee Sobieski playing the part in Joan of Arc…
so the french again throw in the towel? ok, the left and their unions win again, but no, you’re not hired…
as for Robert Mugabe (“Bob” to you and I…)
good summation of his �3.75 millions castle (3 acres of accommodation, 25 bedrooms…) in Zimbabwe
while the msm report elsewhere that the people of his country do not have enough grain to plant this years crop, never mine to eat until harvest…
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/08/27/wzim27.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/08/27/ixnewstop.html
which only makes me think, where will Jimmy and Roselin sleep?
Seems the French have ingrained a system of employment immobility similar to what the Roman Emperor Diocletian implemented with disastrous results. But then who needs economic history? That was two-thousand years ago and we’re soooooo much smarter now!
“I’m guessing because you are clueless regarding economics, have a highly developed sense of employee entitlement and are a pc vigilante you work in the job-for-life public sector?”
Wouldya believe that I’m terminally ill (Life expectancy less than two years) with ALS? Before I got sick I had dual trades (Pipefitter and Power engineer) and worked six days a week in a NON-union shop, and I liked it that way. No BS union regs, no dues, I was given a blueprint, and I built multi-million dollar compressors and was paid FAT cheques.
In Canada when you hire someone, you can fire em without stating a reason for six months after thier first day. After that, you must give a reason or face probable litigation.
PC vigilantie? Hardly. But I know whats right, and whats wrong. And I’ll stand (long as I can) for what I believe.
Would that bigotry be the same that the french immersion teachers in our school practice depending on who you are or where you learned your french? Or possibly the the way the nice little french school in St. Albert, currently advertising, so vehemntly protects it admission requirements? Just wondering.
The French aren’t a race, they are a state of mind.
LOL. I think they are a wanning cuisine and nothing more. California and Australia have as good, if not better, wines. Their hayday as pinnacle of gourmet food isn’t there anymore. (The food at the Frontier in Albuquerque and Mr Piggy Poke Barbeque in rural NC will bring real tears to your eyes and the staff is nice.)
I’m not a fashion hound. Drudge has a link sometimes to their edgy “haute couture” crap which is so French, hackneyed and laughable. (I guess under a burqa they’ll be free to be outrageous?)
Oh, and their “deconstructionist” nitwit intelligencia contribution to academia, put a fork in it.
I guess what I’m saying in my best non-pc manner is that the French are the most useless morons that ever occupied a place on the map. They’ve never done a thing to me personally. Their history of spineless surrender in the face of historic moral choices, cultural arrogance, snail eating and mimes(Marcel Marceau?, gag) hasn’t impressed this old gal.
France is a cautionary tale of the socialist disease at its terminal end that we, in this hemiphere, must rise against.
Well, Technophile, you still haven’t answered my questions:
And what should a company, if it needs to cut staff to enhance profits to shareholders(think pensioners depending on them too via IRA’s), do? Keep dead beat French interns for life?
My questions were posed against the backdrop of your statement:
The law being protested was a P.O.S., where an employer could fire a young employee within two years of hiring him, without giving a reason.
The balls in your court.
Heh, I’m just a blue-collar Joe…
Should a corp. cut jobs to ENHANCE thier profits? This ain’t black and white. Two answers okay?
If they do what Shaw cable did and cut 2500 good paying jobs in Canada so they can farm ’em out to India, they’re wrong to do so. Thats a shit thing to do. Makes excellent business sense, but its still a BAD thing to do.
If the corp has more staff than they need to effectively operate, or if they are having rough times, layoffs are Justified. But they can go too far, one Feedmill I worked in as a boilerman cut thier people to the bone, firing almost all thier maintenence men. The place was falling apart and they ended up replacing big money machines that cose many times what a maintenence man cost in a year.
But this French law is an aweful piece of work. The employers would be able to hang the young workers jobs over thier heads for three years. What would a young employee say if the employer asked him to take a cut in pay? Or to come in on OT unpaid? If a was a young fella, and in that situation, I’d see the writing on the wall. In a country with 20% unemployment, I’d suck it up and roll over for em.
Still think the law is just?
Still think the law is just?
Well, your examples support that if one is unhappy with a job or the company isn’t functioning well a worker can and will pack up and seek greener pastures. Sadly, in the glorious worker’s paradise of socialist job-for-life France there is no place to go for alternative employment.
See the paradox?
No employer owes you a cradle to grave paycheck. Staying solvent and making a profit is a private company’s responsibility first and foremost. Otherwise, like GM’s present situation, the company dies and to the stupidity of the inflexible union workers they go down with it. They wouldn’t concede an inch. Very French. Soon all of the union idiots will be unemployed.
Any employer can change the rules. That’s life. Suck it up or leave. The short-sighted French students have annihilated that option in the long run for themselves.
I don’t think you are really getting the WHY of their 20% unemployment. The fools are the why.
Heh. This is the realworld. I know that. No company owes anyone a job, the employee EARNS the right to work by doing his job and not causing trouble. BUT, the road goes both ways, the employee needs some protection from the government to ensure that he’s treated decently.
Be damn glad you live here in Canada, (assuming you do) where there are some decent labor laws.
Bet we agree on that 🙂
As for your Anti-union feelings, we share those. I’ve worked both union and non-union, on the floor with the blue collar boys, and I VASTLY perfer non-union. Its nice to talk to a foreman without a union rep. taking notes.
You work behind a desk, right?
Charles Martel won a significant battle in 732 stopping an Arab army attacking Europe. So the French have won a war.
This is directed to Albertan Technophile. According to you, someone quoting Bart Simpson (Matt Groening’s cartoon character) is a racist. I apologize for quoting the wrong character.
The phrase was first used by the dour Scottish character Groundskeeper Willie in the television cartoon series The Simpsons to describe the French. The “surrender” element of the phrase refers to the rapid collapse of French military resistance in 1940 in the face of the German forces, and the subsequent collaboration by the Vichy government. The implicit characterization of the French as cowards, and the description of the Battle of France as a surrender is�as promulgators of the phrase likely intend�regarded by many as highly offensive.
The Simpsons episode “‘Round Springfield” first aired on April 30, 1995; in it the local school, Springfield Elementary, has succumbed to budget cuts. Lunchlady Doris states, “they’ve even got Groundskeeper Willie teaching French.” The next shot is of Willie as a teacher, saying “‘bonjourrrrr, you cheese-eatin’ surrender monkeys!” The character of Groundskeeper Willie is known for his grumpiness and animosity; he reserves particular venom for the French. His attempt to speak French with an extremely heavy accent provides much of the comedy in the scene. According to the DVD commentary of the episode, the line was likely (but not certainly) written by Ken Keeler.
Please note the use of the word “comedy” in the aforementioned.
Individually, the French are brave but collectively, their governments have a history, dating back centuries, of cowardly acts. This latest surrender to a group of street thugs serves as a perfect example. I realize that the phrase “Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys” may be offensive to your political correctness sensibilities but that’s your problem and the French leadership’s.
BTW, Je suis fran�ais. Ma m�re est fran�aise. Je puis tracer mon h�ritage aux huguenots. Vos avis me m�nent � croire que vous �tes un abruti. Au moins je puis voir l’ironie et le Deja Vu historique dans cette situation.
Ayez un beau jour.
“The “surrender” element of the phrase refers to the rapid collapse of French military resistance in 1940 in the face of the German forces, and the subsequent collaboration by the Vichy government.”
The British were there, in force to help defend France. They got thier asses handed to em too, and the result was the evacuation of Dunkirk. While the French Gvt. caved, the French army fought with distinction all the way through the war. The French resistance provided vital intelligance to the allies through thre german occupation.
The French Gvt.’s idiotic leadership is worthy of the vitrol levelled against it. But not the French people.
My family came from France into Canada in the 1630s, My generation was the first not to speak French in the home. So, yeah I’ll take offence at anti-french racism. Considering my family has served in WWI, WWII, and Korea WITH DISTINCTION, we don’t need to be insulted.
“we don’t need to be insulted.”
Perhaps insults might help change them to a more respectable image if they knew what that image is.
It might also save some cheese-eating -surrender-monkey’s lives.
This PC stuff is getting us killed!