Edgar? Is That You ?

I’m hearing that Paul Martin has actually now claimed that if property rights are added to the Constitution, it will open the door to child labour in Canada.
???
Is everyone in the Liberal war room absolutely certain there have been no recent meteor strikes in the vicinity? ‘Cause, I’m just saying…. there’s a certain flaccid quality to the Prime MInister’s face these days.
(Update: Paul Martin’s * announcement that he is going to propose a world-wide ban on spaceweapons… related?)
Now, if you want to see something really scary the Lanark Landowners Ass’n has a site that outlines the true “benevolence” of government when it comes to property owners.
And then, there’s this:

On December 29, 2005 Navan farmer Michael Vanhauve and his family were served with a deportation order from Immigration Canada. Although the family has lived and worked and contributed to Canadian society for eight years, a 26-year-old conviction for shoplifting in his native Belgium was cited as the reason.

Today, the Landowners are fighting the order;

The Landowners will assemble at the Vanhauve family farm at 3890 Rockdale rd Sarsfield (Highway 417 to Vars exit, travel North on the Rockdale rd), on Thursday January 12.
The house will be surrounded by heavy equipment and area landowners who will prevent any and all attempts by any officials to enter the Vanhauve family farm. The landowners will be assembled by approx. 11:00 am, the deportation order is to be executed by 6:00 p.m. additional background info is enclosed.

(Via Maz2 in the comments.)

42 Replies to “Edgar? Is That You ?

  1. Yes!
    I heard the same thing on the radio. Apparently Stephen Harper actually laughed and cracked a joke when he heard the accusation.
    This Liberal Campaign actually getting scary!

  2. I was watching Harpers Q&A from the east coast this morning. Although it was hard to hear the exact question, the reporter mentioned Martin’s claim that adding property rights would open the door to child labour and the whole room broke up laughing.
    Harper did say he has no intention of reopening the charter.
    BTW Kate. why don’t you be a sport and lend the picture of the dead rodent in your masthead to the Liberals. After all that is what their campaign looks like at the moment.

  3. If Paulie M. actually said such a thing, it’d only be further confirmation that he’s a highly illogical individual. Perhaps he’s really, literally losing his mind.
    But that’s ok. He has lots of money for his badly needed psychiatric help. Lucky for him.
    Then again, maybe he’s just a complete imbecile.
    First it’s removing the NWC, now this?
    Whoooo!

  4. Now that someone else has mentioned it, I can see that there is a quality in the PM’s eyes that remind me of my Dad’s when he was in the last stages of Alzheimers. Empty and scared and
    confused. Very confused.
    And my Dad was never a leader of Canada.

  5. Now that someone else has mentioned it, I can see that there is a quality in the PM’s eyes that remind me of my Dad’s when he was in the last stages of Alzheimers. Empty and scared and
    confused. Very confused.
    And my Dad was never a leader of Canada.
    I don’t have a website. What URL are you expecting me to include?

  6. You know, Kate…
    When I first found your site, I figured that it was US who are the “small dead animals” since we felt utterly helpless in the face of the Liberal state which has ruled over us in a nearly totalitarian way.
    Now it seems the Liberals are the small dead animals.

  7. You can leave that line blank if you wish. Also, if you don’t want to use your private email, it’s sometimes advised you get a hotmail address, or simply use a fake.

  8. Funny how the Canadian government will bend over backwards for known terrorists (the Kadr family) yet in thier eyes the real enemy of the state if the family farm. Typical of them.

  9. “Paul Martin tell us that Stephen Harper’s
    promise to protect property rights will
    lead to the violation of child labour laws.”
    Apparently the media is openly laughing at the suggestion.
    Did he really say this?
    The new campaign moniker for the Liberal campaign:
    “I am having a political Chernobyl election breakdown.”
    NwC cock up during the debate. (Key clause which allowed the Liberal Charter to be patriated.)
    Goon squads in the cities ad.(Ad hominem attack on the professional military) Then claims ad didn’t run; but it is running/ran in Quebec.
    Property rights will lead to violation of child labour laws. (Where is the logical connector in this argument?)
    Never mind grasping at straws, this looks like a shaky grasp at putting logic/reality to work for you.
    What is with all the incessant non sequitors?

  10. Thats because Harper got into his head so your actually looking into Harpers eyes. And they do sortive look like the eyes of that gopher layin belly up. lol

  11. Mr. Vanhauve used to work for Pierre Etter who is famous for being charged for dumping a dead cow on Liberal MP Don Boudria’s front lawn.
    Did this screw him with Immigration?

  12. “CHILD LABOUR” What is this guy smoking these day’s? Martin is the only guy I have seen getting close to Communist China & other eastern countries that thrive on child labour & human right’s abuse.

  13. Okay.. this is a lie!
    “Upon learning of these charges, Mr. Harper is standing behind Mr. Zeisman”
    I took this quote from the front-page of liberal.ca.
    Harper already said that if he wins in the election, he’s not welcome in the Conservative Party unless he is found not-guilty.

  14. Kate,
    I grew up in the rural Ottawa valley and I know what values those people share. They’re not the values that big paulie talks about. They are values that get people labelled all too often as backward hicks.
    PMPM is telling me that this country was built on same-sex marriage and abortion. I believe it was built on integrity, hard work and self-sufficiency. As well, while I’m on this soapbox, this country was built by people who knew right from wrong and who helped their neighbours when it was the right thing to do.
    Good luck to the Vanhauve family and thank you to their neighbours for showing the Liberals what REAL Canadian values are all about.
    OK, I’m off now….NEXT!

  15. New Liberal War Room Strategy:
    Paul Martin to fake Alzheimers and then attempt to capture the sympathy vote.
    How else would one explain his meltdown.

  16. Watch for a regime change…Martin will “step down for national unity” – read Liberal unity, and someone else will run, the crossdresser err, the guy who crossed the floor from Conservatives in New Brunswick. Then again BS might be our next PM.
    Then Ontario lemmings will follow along and put the Liberals back into power, if not, a majority.
    Oh, in case anyone is interested, Mel’s Musing blog over at canadafreepress is a hoax.
    http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/edesk011206.htm
    Hoax revealed:
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/1/12/82915/8891
    cheers
    Tom

  17. Martin said that crap about child labour and the entire media contingent broke into laughter – he stood there looking like a dufus

  18. An interesting note on the hardhitting news coverage CBC provides us with. A lead story on the election area of the website quotes Keith Martin, the liberal incumbent in a BC riding as saying the military ad was an error that should never have been released, etc. Then goes on to quote him – Some idiot went and sent it out with the 11 other ads, never sancioned, approved, etc.
    No follow up, no hard questions, just took him at his word and published it.
    CTV news reports Paulie as admitting he personally approved every one of the ads including the military one. This means the Liberal MP called Martin an Idiot and the CBC reported it.
    If CBC brass puts this together someone at CBC will get fired, become a consultant, make more money, do nothing, and get the entitlements he or she is entitled to – But only if the liberals win.

  19. The Liberals will deport a family in good standing because the man shoplifted in his country of origin 26 years ago, but they will harbor violent immigrants who’ve committed murder, rape, and god knows what else upon Canadian soil…Only in Canada eh!

  20. As I have posted in the past, my election prediction is that now we have a complete bleed out of Liberal support.
    Blood from the right goes to the tories.
    Blood from the left goes to the NDP.
    Quebec not wanting to be left out:
    Blood from the Liberal remnants and Bloc go to the Tories. Thanks to Mario Dumont of the AD.
    Remember you read it from the “Small Dead Animals” first.
    The deck guns are silent now. The engine is broken and munitions magazine is spent. The Liberal election battleship pennant listlessly takes her watery grave.
    Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht BGS, PDP, CFP
    Commander in Chief
    Frankenstein Battalion
    Knecht Rupprecht Division
    Hans Corps
    1st Saint Nicolaas Army
    Army Group �True North�

  21. I disagree with Paul Martin that individual property rights are not important. I think they are important.
    Perhaps that’s why the Liberals, Paul Martin, and Ralph Goodale aren’t that concerned that private people lost money in the Income Trust scandal or that taxpayers lost money in the Sponsorship scandal. Because private people don’t really have a right to their property.
    At least Canadians are beginning to question the ruling party.
    Like Mike Duffy.
    Mike Duffy is a hero. We could use him digging up the truth on the Income Trust (/CARP Seniors Group intimidation?) scandal.
    Speaking as a Conservative who:
    – thinks Ralph Goodale is dirty (or at least compromised due to a leak)
    – suspects that he wanted to keep the lid on any RCMP Income Trust investigation because he damn well knew there was a leak and that’s why he rushed his Income Trust announcement in the first place
    – suspects that he callously lied, obfuscated, and intentionally mislead the public when he said there was nothing to see
    – is saddened that Canadian (and American) seniors, families, and small investors lost hundreds of millions of dollars in investment savings in an afternoon to connected Bay Street traders
    – understands the damning implications of the massive trading spikes before the Income Trust announcement including increases of up to 3400% over normal trading volume on individual Income Trust companies
    – accepts the statements of Sandy McIntyre, fund manager of Sentry Capital Group, Jim Leech, a Vice President who manages the Ontario Teachers Pension, and Don Drummond, Chief Economist of the TD bank that they received email advance news of a leak whose source was “an individual well-connected to the Liberal Party”, “Liberal Strategists”, and “Liberal Party and government sources”
    – takes the Senior Citizen CARP group representative, William Gleberzon’s, word that there was a leak from Goodale’s office over that of the Liberal Finance Minister and his coterie any day
    – believes that Ralph is sweating in his slimy britches at the thought of an honest government getting in and investigating this file
    I thought to myself that none of this has been proven.
    And it�s important that we not say that the Finance Minister or his staff leaked or told someone or whatever or slander a Cabinet minister while the RCMP are still investigating.
    They’ll get their man.
    *** Oh, but as you can see, there’s nothing to this Liberal Party scandal (following the time period that Paul Martin himself called the “Disgraceful Period” in a nationally televised debate) and nothing important to look at, just “Opposition allegations” from each of Canada’s three Opposition parties and an investigation by the RCMP based on the available evidence.
    And no one got hurt, except for seniors, families, and small investors.
    And of course Ralph Goodale and Paul Martin’s political career and the Liberal Party’s electoral fortunes are more important. But I digress.

  22. Liberal voters may be a slow-witted but their smart enough to know when the risk of change is less frightening than the risk of doing nothing.
    Toronto Star

  23. The Liberals will deport a family in good standing because the man shoplifted in his country of origin 26 years ago, but they will harbor violent immigrants who’ve committed murder, rape, and god knows what else upon Canadian soil…
    Strictly speaking it’s not the Liberals themselves doing it, but the point’s still valid.
    Anyway: of course, in this instance the guy was convicted of shoplifting in Belgium, but innocent folks like the Khadrs, that guy who was one of the architects of the Rwandan genocides, and sundry Jamacian thugs are just *accused* and thus innocent until proven guilty, right?

  24. Paul Martin and the Liberals have dropped Canada’s international influence to the realm of office gopher. They don’t even have the power to choose the brand of coffee served at their own G8 gatherings. His fight against “Star Wars” is a lead balloon. He’ll get no where in the U.N. (they’ve tried this before and failed miserably).
    Kate, your right. Martin is seriously looking ill. Is that fatigue or the stress of his impending doom?

  25. Dead cow + Boudria + Librano$.
    More on Boudria: Don played safe. Ah, yes. Where is Boudria today? Safe;Abroad, somewheres, unknown. As the twig is bent, so the tree is formed; bent, as Bart says, bent. Smells like Librano$ revenge from a member of the Liberal Ratpack; which included Sheila Tequila Copps.>>>
    Don Boudria and President Gomery
    Contributed by phil@uni.ca
    Saturday, 28 May 2005
    (1960’s) – I must have been in my early teens when Don Boudria was a friend of mine. He came playing in my yard for years. At that time, we lived on Catherine Street in Rockland, Ontario. Don was one of the kids on my block. He lived away, in the country� but from memory, he was there weekends and he was always playing very safe. We were in the yard, we were playing kids stuff and Don was always� well� in the safe area, sort of.
    Comes the Cross examination of the Gomery Commission. May 27th, 2005, Don is still quite safe. Safe. Still.
    (Ce qui attriste, c�est que tu n�as pas r�pondu clairement � toutes les questions).
    And by the way, if we ever get rid of the fu***ng Royalty, I�m afraid some will propose Gomery for President. >>>>
    http://www.uni.ca/mambo/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=84&Itemid=39

  26. All the best to the Vanhauve family and their fellow landowners who are showing the courage to Stand Up for them, something, it seems, this Liberal government does not have the ability to do.

  27. So let me get this straight, if you are a Belgium immigrant farmer who happens to get caught in the middle of a dispute between one of your neighbours and the sitting MP you are not eligible for an Immigration ministerial permit.
    If on the other hand you are a Bulgarian immigrant exotic dancer who happens to have worked on a sitting Liberal MP’s re-election campaign you do qualify for a ministerial permit.
    What does this mean about Liberal “Canadian Values”?
    Is a stripper preferable to a farmer in the liberal social fabric??
    Are Bulgarians more suitable to “Canadian Values” than Belgiums??
    Does this have anything to do with Dr. Evil being Belgium??
    Syncro

  28. Has anyone noticed a pattern being formed here.
    Strippers, SSM, SC of Canada & the charter, banishment of handguns, banishment of weapon’s in space, Military Coup, Child Labour, Abortion, Group sex Clubs, Conspiracy Photo Op’s, Adscam & of course everybody’s favorite INCOME TRUST. Have I missed any, The pattern is that this PM & liberal cronies are not only theif’s, liar’s & cheat’s That they now have the dubious honor to add “IDIOT’S” to their list of acheivment’s.

  29. Something’s wrong here. If you are Jamaican immigrant who waves around and/or discharges a firearm in the course of robbing a store or restaurant in Missasauga, you will be appointed government lawyers, and after posting nominal bail you will remain at Liberty for years and years, while your offspring, known and unknown, will stay in Canada forever.
    But if you are a hardworking Canadian family farmer from Belgium, you get served with a deportation order based on a 26 year old shoplifting conviction.
    Maybe internal polling showed that Belgian farmers as a group tend not to live in key Liberal ridings, and tend not to vote Liberal. Whatever the reasons for this Immigration decision, the Landowners are to be commended and supported for their direct action in this case.
    I’m quite curious to see if this will get any coverage from our bleeding hypocritical “Canadian values” press who supposedly concern themselves with fairness and justice.

  30. I’m disgusted by the announcement to deport Michael Vanhauve and his family, who are obviously working and contributing to Canadian society, while the Flaccerals seemingly can’t deport a single gun-wielding criminal.

  31. Good one……Farmer gets the boot by immigration street thugs get lawyers and sympathy.
    So is it incompetence or hypocrisy?

  32. Harper said he ran into the “Hour Has 22 Minutes” crew. He said he’s having a hard time telling them apart from the Liberal election team.

  33. Section 1(a) of the 1960 Canadian Bill of Rights (S.C. 1960, c. 44, reprinted in R.S.C. 1985, App. III) provides federal statutory recognition of �the right of the individual to … enjoyment of property�, and the right �not to be deprived thereof except by due process of law.� The right to property is also included under the fifth and fourteenth Amendments of the American Bill of Rights. However, the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms does not provide constitutional protection for individual �property rights�. At the meetings of the Special Joint Committee on the Constitution and during Parliamentary debate on Bill C-60, Progressive Conservative MPs proposed that a right to �the enjoyment of property� be included under section 7 of the Charter. This amendment was rejected largely due to provincial government concerns, shared by federal New Democratic Party MPs, that entrenching property rights in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms could interfere with environmental, zoning and other land use regulation; public ownership, expropriation and regulation of resource-based and other industries; and with legislative restrictions on foreign ownership of land. In the 1989 decision of Irwin Toy v. Quebec (A.G.) ([1989] 1 S.C.R. 927), the Supreme Court of Canada referred to the intentional exclusion of property rights from the Charter as a basis for finding that economic rights of a �corporate-commercial� nature are not protected under section 7.
    Submitted by Martha Jackman
    Sources:
    * A. Alvaro, �Why Property Rights Were Excluded from the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms� (1991) 24 Canadian Journal of Political Science 309.
    http://www.law.ualberta.ca/ccskeywords/property_rights.html

  34. Updte on the Belgian Family:
    http://www.cbc.ca/ottawa/story/ot-hide20060112.html
    Farmers “save” Belgian family from deportation
    Jan 12 2006 04:06 PM EST CBC News
    “A rural right’s group says they’re hiding a Belgian family in a safe place to protect them from deportation scheduled for Thursday evening.
    About 50 farmers from across the region gathered outside the family’s home in Navan to protest the deportation order for Michel Van Hauve, his wife, Suzy Myers, and their son, Blaise.
    The family moved here eight years ago from Belgium, when Michel secured a work permit as a farm hand.
    The family is scheduled for a 6 p.m. KLM flight out of Montreal, but protestors say they are helping the family hide from authorities.
    The angry protestors barred the driveway with a large tractor in a symbolic gesture and refused to reveal where they’ve allegedly hidden the family.
    Both Liberal and Conservative candidates for the Glengarry-Prescott-Russell riding attended the protest, but farmers angry about the sponsorship scandal chased Liberal candidate Ren� Berthiaume from the scene.
    “I’m here to give a gesture of support to this gentleman this morning and I’m very sorry that our bureaucracy was not able to find it in their heart to make a humane decision about allowing an extension,” said Berthiaume, before being chased away.”

  35. Kate you know damn well that us regular floks cant be entitled to our own property when we have a Kleptocracy that is entitled to our property.
    A bureaucratic culture of entitlement holds it is entitled to everything you own…..as it was in Rome so shall it be in Ottawa.

  36. These people are being deported because they are caucasian, and self-reliant. There is no place in the Liberal immigration policy for them.

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